**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 06 03:00:00 2014 Dec 06 12:35:19 I can't login to drop.maemo.org can anyone tell me how public ssh key should look like to paste at garage webpage? Dec 06 12:35:52 should I strip it from ssh-rsa and user@host? Dec 06 12:42:32 totalizator: it is long since I did that, but I think you should strip it Dec 06 12:43:03 totalizator: also wait a bit afterwards as I think there is a cron job importing new key Dec 06 12:43:09 not sure how often it runs though Dec 06 12:44:32 yeah, I just realised that when I leave user@host then it merges with the key after pressing "update" button Dec 06 12:44:39 thanks for confirmation Dec 06 12:46:32 and do you have any idea how long does it take for a deb to appear in extras-devel after a successful build? Dec 06 13:01:47 totalizator: check the cauldron Dec 06 13:02:07 can be 40-60 minutes Dec 06 13:33:34 got it, thanks Dec 06 14:19:40 Ok, a mean question: why does Donate banner on TMO lead to nowhere? Dec 06 14:23:42 chem|st: you can ignore join/part messages for a specific user, if you want to see everyone else's Dec 06 14:38:13 Pidgin ignores join/part all unless activity within XX minutes, very useful Dec 06 14:38:46 Oksana: I was under the impression CC where fixing the banners. Dec 06 15:20:56 raccoon_: does that work just like /ignore jyrjyr JOINS PARTS QUITS? Dec 06 15:21:34 Oksana: needs to be fixed but donations are currently not possible Dec 06 15:23:08 chem|st: yes, and you can specify particular channel with -channel #channel Dec 06 15:23:26 (useful if you dont want to ignore the user in other channels, for some reason( Dec 06 15:23:28 )* Dec 06 15:23:56 chem|st: sorry user must be specified with a user!host@mask type string Dec 06 15:24:12 hmm taht was easy :) thought it is network channel whatever specific or a regexp I cannot wrap my head around Dec 06 15:24:43 raccoon_: ehrm ok so that ignore wont work then... Dec 06 15:25:08 /IGNORE -channel #maemo nickname!*@* JOINS PARTS QUITS Dec 06 15:25:22 add -network if you need to Dec 06 15:29:16 16:29 4 jyrjyr!*@* #maemo-meeting: JOINS PARTS Dec 06 15:29:17 16:29 5 jyrjyr!*@* #maemo: JOINS PARTS QUITS Dec 06 15:29:23 is that about right? Dec 06 15:29:25 looks fine Dec 06 15:29:32 TA Dec 06 16:07:06 I uploaded my first build to extras-devel - yay! now, why there is no icon in fapman? Dec 06 17:42:30 chem|st: you can ignore join/part/quit per-user Dec 06 17:42:36 (at least irssi can ;) Dec 06 17:42:54 but that's just a workaround, bot a real solution Dec 06 17:43:20 (oh, looks like I'm late) Dec 06 17:43:59 totalizator: did you add an icon to your package ? Dec 06 17:44:34 http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing#Icons Dec 06 17:54:39 i lost my n900 again, the only thing ive forgotton is what repro one should use with CSSU, should one use extras-devel or extras-testing? Dec 06 17:55:00 for installing newer apps what are stableish Dec 06 18:00:38 its testing! Dec 06 18:02:51 netkat: I did and the stock apman displays it correctly Dec 06 18:08:20 ~fapman Dec 06 18:08:21 i heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam Dec 06 18:08:52 chem|st: weechat has "smart filter" - it hides all joins/parts except for ppl you were talking with recently Dec 06 18:16:48 never mind hiding them individually, it's making the logs harder to read and has gone on for weeks. Is an OP not about? Dec 06 18:32:17 can i restore a backup from backupmenu what uses CSSU on a old kernel? will the system get updated with the newer kernel on the backup? or would i need to first install CSSU then restore the backup? Dec 06 18:34:10 install the kernel first Dec 06 18:34:19 ok thanks Dec 06 18:34:35 backupmenu needs the kernels to 'match' Dec 06 18:34:46 also im trying to install backupmenu on this new phone but it complains abouts liblzo missing Dec 06 18:34:53 i have not installed CSSU on it yet Dec 06 18:41:19 also Dec 06 18:41:29 sorry.. wrong window Dec 06 20:48:12 btw - I can't ssh/scp drop.maemo.org, I've been waiting over 6 hours Dec 06 20:48:41 how often the cron job updates the keys? Dec 06 22:44:51 totalizator: I had fun setting my drop account up, I had to get techstaff to fix something. It now works but I generally use web assistant now. Dec 06 22:49:34 seeing just a little bit I'm not surprised; unfortunately I have package with sources ~5MB and web assistant refuses to accept large files Dec 06 23:04:27 I can not set the extras-devel repo? is does someone else have the same problem? Dec 06 23:05:23 on the N900 ^^ Dec 06 23:11:18 hah, I clicked a button for request to be a package maintainer and the project site disappeared :O Server Error 500 Dec 06 23:11:28 steffen: what do you mean by that? Dec 06 23:12:27 totalizator: yes, unfortunately large packages will fail (timeout) Dec 06 23:13:05 which pkg? Dec 06 23:13:31 http://maemo.org/packages/view/libmpdclient/ Dec 06 23:14:01 and who can help me with this scp key? Dec 06 23:17:46 totalizator: this is worth a read http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59933 Dec 06 23:18:20 if all fails email to techstaff AT maemo DOT org Dec 06 23:20:03 but my pkg is already in extras-devel and it was listed on the pkg site Dec 06 23:21:02 until I clicked "request to be maintainer of this package" Dec 06 23:22:50 it is a newer version of a library that already exists Dec 06 23:24:18 I'll try with the techstaff, thanks Dec 06 23:32:36 Hey guys, I cant add the extras-devel to my repositories, can you help me? Dec 06 23:33:04 Im getting 404 no found Dec 06 23:34:07 aaargh, thanks for this link sixwheeledbeast; I have tried to paste whole id_rsa.pub and stripped from ide_rsa and user@host but I have not tried leaving only ssh-rsa in place - it works now Dec 06 23:34:33 so no help from you guys? :( Dec 06 23:34:47 what are your settings? Dec 06 23:35:21 totalizator: np, maybe give it 24 hours to see if the package page reappears, midgard is known to have a fit like that. Dec 06 23:35:50 ah, ok Dec 06 23:35:51 steffen: most probably a typo, working fine here. Dec 06 23:36:17 you are right, I'm sorry. It works now Dec 06 23:36:59 What phones are you using? whats your opinion about jolla? is it worth buying? Dec 06 23:44:12 n900 here and I'm kinda tired of it becoming slower and slower but instead of looking for a new mobile I started building and using ncurses apps :3 Dec 06 23:45:41 jolla would be fine for me but hardware keyboard is a must Dec 06 23:46:29 can jolla install bash yet? Dec 06 23:46:54 istr it using aegis or thelike like n9... Dec 06 23:55:23 ncurses apps on mobile ? :] Dec 06 23:56:06 btw, if you're talking about mpd you should try ncmpcpp Dec 06 23:56:24 Well I thought it was a typo, but it is not. I put extras-devel as name, http://repositoy.maemo.org/extras-devel/ as URL fermantle as Distribution and free and non-free as Components Dec 06 23:56:25 (or plain ncmpc) Dec 06 23:56:28 any ideas? Dec 06 23:57:05 steffen: it should be like this http://imgur.com/Ei4cyQV Dec 06 23:59:08 bencoh: why not? alpine for mail, ncmpd for my headless radio, irssi with perl support for irc - world is beautiful Dec 07 00:00:36 yeah I know, s/alpine/mutt/ and that's basically what I do (with ssh from the phone) Dec 07 00:00:56 I have to try building ncmpcpp but ncmpd is more than enough for me Dec 07 00:01:21 I'm just not sure that's the best way to take full advantage of the n900 Dec 07 00:01:45 (oh and you mean ncmpc* I guess) Dec 07 00:02:03 btw I have just uploaded to extras-devel re-alpine 2.03 with password saving feature compiled in Dec 07 00:02:24 darn, ncmpc, yes Dec 07 00:02:29 did you ask previous maintainer ? Dec 07 00:02:32 totalizator: It is exactly the way you have it! Im using faster application manager but I get an error... what else can it be? (I can acces the the url from the browser on the phone...) Dec 07 00:03:04 bencoh: previous maintainer of? Dec 07 00:03:08 steffen: naming the error might help Dec 07 00:03:15 totalizator: re-alpine Dec 07 00:03:25 (or did you just create re-alpine because we had alpine ?) Dec 07 00:04:15 failed to update some or all of the catalogs. check your network connection and/or repository configuration... Dec 07 00:05:03 there is no re-alpine in the repo and the alpine has no pass save + I don't know about ssl setting Dec 07 00:05:28 ~fap Dec 07 00:05:28 methinks fap is good Dec 07 00:05:35 ehm Dec 07 00:05:42 infobot: woot ? Dec 07 00:05:44 \o/ Dec 07 00:05:46 someone said fap is broken Dec 07 00:06:11 ~fapman Dec 07 00:06:12 from memory, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam Dec 07 00:06:14 btw, there is no problem with uploading newer version of a package to extras-deve, even if you are not a maintainer Dec 07 00:06:18 ah there we go Dec 07 00:06:27 totalizator: then maybe asking current maintainer of alpine and sending over a better alpine version might be a good idea Dec 07 00:06:34 totalizator: no, there is no problem at all :) Dec 07 00:06:57 it's just that he might have ideas/something interesting to say Dec 07 00:07:33 (and it's courtesy too :) Dec 07 00:08:26 well, it's kinda adventure for me - these are my very first uploads and debs generally Dec 07 00:08:56 i have learned a lot during the few past days Dec 07 00:09:01 :-) Dec 07 00:09:58 and asking current maintainer "hey build me a new version, nao!" could be a bit rude too :3 Dec 07 00:12:40 you would not believe what silly hacks I used to build my debs before I discovered autobuilder and the proper way Dec 07 00:13:35 I might have found it! it wants to access .../extras-devel/dists/fermantle/binary/armel/Packages and that does really not exist Dec 07 00:14:08 fermantle? Dec 07 00:14:12 no... it does exist Dec 07 00:15:44 totalizator: then you saw the light :) Dec 07 00:15:44 hahaha so it was a spelling mistake... now its working.. Ohh man I look like a fool Dec 07 00:15:57 :) Dec 07 00:16:11 erm I guess steffen saw the light as well :] Dec 07 00:16:41 what are the must have applications and the must have settings when I start off? I did all this to get speedpatch. What else do you recommend? Dec 07 00:16:53 bencoh: :)) I did! Dec 07 00:17:19 you are free now! just fly Dec 07 00:18:07 hahaha okay. But you have been flying for a while and maybe know some good places where I can fly to as well to get started ;) Dec 07 00:22:48 qml-browser, mod rana for maps? Dec 07 00:24:32 is the qml-browser faster then the default? Dec 07 00:27:31 imho unfortunately it's not but it renders pages quite correctly where stock browser fails Dec 07 00:27:56 btw how can I disable flash plugin in qml-browser, anyone? Dec 07 00:28:39 maybe it's time to say farewell. onece. forever. Dec 07 00:31:17 daaamn this thing is slow... Dec 07 00:31:42 u mean n900? ;3 Dec 07 00:32:36 yes Dec 07 00:37:19 try using a Neo FreeRunner :P Dec 07 00:37:28 **that's slow** :) Dec 07 00:37:29 256MB ram ftw Dec 07 00:38:03 400 MHz armv6 (?) & 128 MB RAM :) Dec 07 00:41:16 ohwell, I always wanted Neo FreeRunner Dec 07 00:41:40 well it had some nice features Dec 07 00:41:55 but there were quite a few downsides as well Dec 07 00:41:57 steffen: columbus navigation toolkit if you are into NMEA stuff Dec 07 00:42:19 ...but it could output NMEA just fine :) Dec 07 00:42:46 I'm actually still using two logs I've recorded with the FreeRunner in a bus for modRana testing :) Dec 07 00:43:41 still I think that the FreeRunner started quite a lot of the current open mobile initiatives Dec 07 00:44:48 even our local open (not only) mobile technology started years ago by a FreeRunner group order :) Dec 07 00:45:05 *mobile technology group Dec 07 00:55:16 qml-browser is still in dev stage afaik Dec 07 01:36:50 moin :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 07 03:00:00 2014