**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 11 02:59:58 2014 Dec 11 04:56:06 OK folks. this is weird. Dec 11 04:56:27 Some months ago my n800 died. the screen was blankish, with some lines. Dec 11 04:56:40 i came here and someone pretty much said: it dead Dec 11 04:57:09 i left it for like 6 months in a drawer, totally dead batter now. i plugged it in to charge and the lovely charging icon is on the screen. it's back. Dec 11 04:57:11 the fuck? Dec 11 05:06:43 Water?.. Dec 11 05:08:16 nope. no water. the only thing I can think of is I charged it fully, used it for 10 mins and charged again overnight the next morning it was dead. Dec 11 05:08:30 so maybe something went wrong and some capacitor was overloaded? Dec 11 05:09:08 and 6 months later all charges have dissipated and things are back to normal. weird. i'm glad i didn't chuck it. Dec 11 07:19:19 I forgot, the n800 and n900 charging icon starts scrolling after a while or not? Dec 11 08:13:37 moin :) Dec 11 10:39:52 hello there Dec 11 10:40:17 some os2008 users here? Dec 11 10:40:41 i'm looking for the b6 of the garnet vm for my n810 ^^ Dec 11 10:42:19 scops: what exactly is it? Dec 11 10:43:21 just look for example here: http://www.brighthand.com/phonereview/access-garnet-vm-review/ Dec 11 10:44:40 wizbit: to get latest ovi maps you need Ovi Suite. N900 can no longer download them because the url for maps has changed. unfortunately it seems to be hardcoded in the binary, so not adjustable. Dec 11 10:48:11 Wow, the day I wasn't advancing of my own accord has happened Dec 11 10:48:20 I received a free Nexus 4 android phone Dec 11 10:48:54 I wonder what's gonna go on with my n900 now. This damn thing is too seductive. Dec 11 11:06:01 scops: i just noticed you said n810 Dec 11 11:06:15 and Raimu, you too Dec 11 11:06:23 N900 user here ;D Dec 11 11:06:30 ^^ Dec 11 11:06:55 how well is the n810 stacking up nowadays? Dec 11 11:07:43 mrcaaattt: thick? Dec 11 11:07:49 it's still nice as media player or ebook reader ... and has the best lcars theme for any mobile device i think xD Dec 11 11:08:29 wait between the n900 and n810, which one is thicker? Dec 11 11:08:40 seems as if the n900 is from the pictures.. Dec 11 11:08:49 yeah i think so Dec 11 11:09:28 Humpelstilzcen: If i can handle the n900, i guess i can handle the n810 :p Dec 11 11:10:04 the n900 is a lot thicker than the n81- Dec 11 11:10:55 the n810 was 1.5cm, the n900 nearly 2cm Dec 11 11:11:16 ah i see Dec 11 11:12:15 I'm a bit depressed over how slow and problematic my n900 use is now having handled this Nexus4 for some days. Dec 11 11:12:36 Everything I need... works much better and doesn't break more all the time. Dec 11 11:12:37 It's sad. Dec 11 11:13:19 Well, I guess most people stuck with the N900 is because of the things they could do with it Dec 11 11:13:32 + the community Dec 11 11:13:47 yeah Dec 11 11:13:59 I'm not sure I can do the things I want to these days Dec 11 11:14:02 XDA seems like the TMO for android users Dec 11 11:14:05 Tried it? Dec 11 11:14:07 The community is awesome, agreed Dec 11 11:14:15 Nope, not yet. Just got used to the phone. :) Dec 11 11:14:32 Try installing ubuntu touch on it :D Dec 11 11:14:43 That should get the gears going haha Dec 11 11:14:47 Ha haa Dec 11 11:14:53 It came installed with Ubuntu actually Dec 11 11:14:58 Oh Dec 11 11:15:03 Where did you get it? Dec 11 11:15:16 Some friends who I sort of work for now Dec 11 11:15:42 They'd been using the phone for an experiment and didn't need it and though I needed it a lot more Dec 11 11:15:52 I guess it's a work phone then? :P Dec 11 11:15:57 sailfishos new release for nexus4 is coming out today Dec 11 11:16:09 coincidence?:) Dec 11 11:16:32 Ah, that seems nice too Dec 11 11:16:41 you can multirom them all i think Dec 11 11:16:44 Better install sailfish the instant it comes out Dec 11 11:17:23 How would you say Ubuntu (touch) is over Maemo? Dec 11 11:20:07 still hoping for sailfish on the moto g at some point Dec 11 12:00:36 interestingly, Sicelo is still logged on to IRC Dec 11 12:00:45 meh, wrong window, lol Dec 11 13:14:09 Hi! Dec 11 13:36:32 Sicelo: if the new url for maps is smaller it should be adjustable just fine ;) Dec 11 13:36:41 just rewrite and move the \0 Dec 11 14:51:10 bencoh: no change .. jsut the domain .. although now i don't remember fully (and since no usb, can't test anymore what address ovi suite uses to download them) Dec 11 14:58:33 how is that related to usb ? Dec 11 15:06:29 the usb is for connecting to the computer with Ovi Suite Dec 11 16:09:19 http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/mobile/phone/n900/specifications/ ahaha Dec 11 16:53:54 Pali: Can you give me the URL for the kernel-power again? Much appreciated Dec 11 16:55:03 http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power/ Dec 11 16:55:16 http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power-settings/ Dec 11 16:55:26 Thank you Dec 11 18:00:54 what would be the language if i wanna make program for maemo? I have absolutely zero knowledge of making prgrams. Dec 11 18:18:37 back with power53 :) Dec 11 18:33:34 Vajb: you can use any language, as long as you have the compiler Dec 11 18:33:52 but C with GTK or C++ with Qt are common options. Plus python Dec 11 18:42:37 i guess easiest is best bet :) Dec 11 18:43:01 but isn't there sort of preferred language for maemo? Dec 11 18:43:48 Vajb: C with GTK or C++ with Qt are common options. Plus python Dec 11 18:43:55 those are the preferred languages :) Dec 11 18:44:48 ok thx :) Dec 11 18:55:30 and hildon (maemo UI "framework") is in C/gtk Dec 11 18:56:31 hi Dec 11 19:08:35 saw qt tutorial in tmo. Will read it through first and think if im worthy of coding proggies. Dec 11 22:30:23 All those who accepted, but not yet declared on mailing list, please do so asap (deadline is 13th 23:59 UTC): http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2014-December/thread.html Dec 11 22:36:12 if i convert myDocs to ext3 would that make it more resistant to corruption? Dec 11 22:37:32 Not sure? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1016093 Dec 11 22:39:35 Oksana, thx for reminding it I am updating http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014# Dec 11 22:39:42 I guess the part about mangling mount scripts is outdated Dec 11 22:40:43 maybe you dont need to edit scripts if one uses CSSU stable? Dec 11 22:40:56 not sure, but I think so Dec 11 22:59:08 Oksana, may I suggest you to contact the "ToCheck" section on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Nominated Dec 11 22:59:48 Contact? Ok, I will send PMs to them. Dec 11 23:00:14 great Dec 11 23:00:36 thanks again for helping on wiki page Dec 11 23:04:49 Ok, where should I change my "real name" on http://maemo.org/profile/view/username ? I have changed it in Garage, but maemo.org does not show the update, at this moment. Dec 11 23:06:31 I think those should be linked somewhere in council latests emails but i am unsure Dec 11 23:06:53 Oksana, does not matters much for now your application is valid congratz Dec 11 23:07:12 what other hardware apart from n900 runs maemo? Dec 11 23:08:03 nokia 770 Dec 11 23:08:12 Well, N900 runs Maemo 5, N8x0 runs Maemo 4... afair. Dec 11 23:08:17 the ipad killer Dec 11 23:08:45 nokia N9? Dec 11 23:09:59 maemo6 ~ meego/harmattan Dec 11 23:11:10 http://nokiamobileblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Nokia-n950-13.jpg Dec 11 23:12:15 yea the device of the gods Dec 11 23:12:20 and I have one Dec 11 23:12:27 Hildon on desktop? https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/Hildon/Building Dec 11 23:13:05 wizbit, http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/nokia_n950_fcc_teardown_1-580x343.jpg same Dec 11 23:17:28 nice Dec 11 23:18:54 will this ever get released http://neo900.org/ Dec 11 23:22:04 chainsawbike, hi Dec 11 23:22:33 chainsawbike, think about posting to the list @ http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014 Dec 11 23:22:44 wizbit, #neo900 Dec 11 23:23:06 MrPingu, same for you Dec 11 23:27:17 rZr: Take a look at https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014/Candidate_declarations Dec 12 00:37:21 rZr: ekkelund: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1451733&postcount=74 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 12 02:59:59 2014