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Dec 16 04:27:43 <Oksana> Is there xvidtune on maemo? I am curious about AM radio transmission from N900 ;-) http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ih98-tempest.pdf
Dec 16 09:23:42 <zGrr> moin :)
Dec 16 13:00:25 <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
Dec 16 13:10:18 <antranigv> Hay, rescueOS is an initfs, right ?
Dec 16 13:11:27 <antranigv> I have multiboot installed, now I have no idea how to load rescueOS :-/
Dec 16 13:23:04 <sixwheeledbeast1> ~rescueos
Dec 16 13:23:04 <infobot> hmm... rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/
Dec 16 13:23:59 <sixwheeledbeast1> ~multiboot
Dec 16 13:24:00 <infobot> well, multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/, or **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot
Dec 16 13:24:36 <sixwheeledbeast1> best to use uboot not multiboot really
Dec 16 13:24:47 <sixwheeledbeast1> ~maemo-multiboot
Dec 16 13:24:47 <infobot> maemo-multiboot is probably deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED
Dec 16 13:25:18 <freemangordon_> antranigv: you can use flasher to boot rescueos
Dec 16 13:25:32 <freemangordon_> however, as sixwheeledbeast1 said, use u-boot, not multiboot
Dec 16 13:25:59 <antranigv> freemangordon_: I know, when I press you and connect, nothing happens :-/
Dec 16 13:26:15 <antranigv> ahh
Dec 16 13:26:32 <antranigv> need to full reflash ? no problem.
Dec 16 13:26:37 <freemangordon_> are you sure you pass the correct parameters to the lfasher?
Dec 16 13:26:40 <freemangordon_> no
Dec 16 13:26:48 <freemangordon_> you don;t need to reflash
Dec 16 13:26:58 <antranigv> here ./flasher-3.5 -f -k 2.6.37n rescueOS-1.1.img 
Dec 16 13:27:07 <antranigv> na
Dec 16 13:27:13 <antranigv> stupid terminal
Dec 16 13:27:13 <antranigv> :D
Dec 16 13:27:28 <antranigv> this
Dec 16 13:27:30 <antranigv> ./flasher-3.5 -f -k 2.6.37 -n rescueOS-1.1.img
Dec 16 13:27:47 <antranigv> right ?
Dec 16 13:27:51 <freemangordon_> but you can use the flasher to *boot*. if it doesn;t work, check your USB cable and port
Dec 16 13:27:54 <freemangordon_> lemme check
Dec 16 13:28:34 <antranigv> I just got it thinking that the port is fixed :-/ I had a broken USB port for a while
Dec 16 13:29:46 <freemangordon_> antranigv: rtfm http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/documentation.txt :)
Dec 16 13:30:01 <freemangordon_> "flasher-3.5 -k 2.6.37 -n initrd.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" "
Dec 16 13:30:40 <freemangordon_> sure, replace "initrd.img" with "rescueOS-1.1.img"
Dec 16 13:31:16 <antranigv> I just need to rootdelay
Dec 16 13:31:24 <antranigv> what is that ?
Dec 16 13:31:38 <freemangordon_> what is what?
Dec 16 13:31:45 <antranigv> rootdelay :D
Dec 16 13:32:04 <bencoh> arent you missing "-l" ?
Dec 16 13:32:30 <bencoh> oh nvm, fmg already answered
Dec 16 13:32:51 <freemangordon_> ~rootdelay
Dec 16 13:33:47 <freemangordon_> antranigv: re rootdelay - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67199/whats-the-point-of-rootwait-rootdelay
Dec 16 13:35:12 <antranigv> still not finding device
Dec 16 13:35:25 <antranigv> I do lsusb, and nothing from nokia
Dec 16 13:35:41 <antranigv> maybe the port is still broken
Dec 16 13:36:28 <freemangordon_> or the cable is bad
Dec 16 13:36:36 <freemangordon_> or the PC USB port is bad
Dec 16 13:36:58 <antranigv> changing the cable
Dec 16 13:37:00 <antranigv> nothing
Dec 16 13:37:08 <freemangordon_> well...
Dec 16 13:37:12 <antranigv> testing on my other phone.... working
Dec 16 13:37:30 <antranigv> killall me (
Dec 16 13:37:41 <bencoh> doesnt sound good
Dec 16 13:38:23 <antranigv> how can I check if the port is working
Dec 16 13:38:48 <freemangordon_> does it work in mass storage mode?
Dec 16 13:39:08 <antranigv> the OS doesn't boot, I have broken busybox
Dec 16 13:39:15 <freemangordon_> oh
Dec 16 13:39:20 <freemangordon_> ok, do as I say:
Dec 16 13:39:27 <freemangordon_> 1. remove the battery
Dec 16 13:39:27 <antranigv> changed ash to bash in /etc/passwd
Dec 16 13:39:34 <antranigv> done
Dec 16 13:39:51 <freemangordon_> 2. connect the cable
Dec 16 13:39:58 <antranigv> done
Dec 16 13:40:06 <freemangordon_> 3: open the keyboard and press'n' hold 'U'
Dec 16 13:40:21 <antranigv> done
Dec 16 13:40:25 <freemangordon_> keeping 'U' pressed, insert the battery
Dec 16 13:40:44 <antranigv> k
Dec 16 13:40:47 <freemangordon_> the device should appear if USB port works
Dec 16 13:41:16 <antranigv> :'(
Dec 16 13:41:46 <freemangordon_> seems you need USB port repaired :(
Dec 16 13:42:06 <bencoh> btw, does it charge when plugged to a wallmount charger ?
Dec 16 13:42:07 <freemangordon_> BTW, is battery charged?
Dec 16 13:42:13 <freemangordon_> :)
Dec 16 13:42:40 <antranigv> re-repaird... I just went 20 KM and paid 20euros for nothing then.... let me check, I have a wallcharger
Dec 16 13:43:52 <freemangordon_> only 20? a friend of mine paid 40 for such a repair, though the guys fixed it :). 
Dec 16 13:44:54 <antranigv> checked, nothing...
Dec 16 13:45:16 <freemangordon_> with wall charger?
Dec 16 13:45:33 <antranigv> freemangordon_: hope he is in netherlands and can help me :P
Dec 16 13:45:35 <antranigv> yupp
Dec 16 13:45:49 <antranigv> original nokia wall charger... nothing
Dec 16 13:45:57 <freemangordon_> who, my friend?
Dec 16 13:46:07 <antranigv> yea :D
Dec 16 13:46:15 <freemangordon_> she is in Bulgaria, the same place I live in :P
Dec 16 13:46:24 <antranigv> ahh no, the fixers ? :D
Dec 16 13:46:31 <freemangordon_> so are they
Dec 16 13:46:42 <antranigv> aaaaa kill me :(
Dec 16 13:47:03 <antranigv> I want my phone back :'(
Dec 16 13:48:00 <freemangordon_> find the guy who "fixed" your device and get your money back. and want them to really repair your device for free in exchange for wasting your time and money
Dec 16 13:50:50 <antranigv> freemangordon_ good idea (: thanks everyone!! "meanwhile norayr fixed he's phone in Armenia for 4 euros"
Dec 16 14:26:19 <peetah> $
Dec 16 14:26:50 <peetah> oops, wrong term sorry
Dec 16 16:03:40 <ecc3g> is kp53 safe? :D
Dec 16 16:32:07 <Vajb> didn't hurt me :)
Dec 16 16:40:16 <ecc3g> just seeing if the people using it for non critical use are doing good with it, would hate to brick my only cellular phone...
Dec 16 16:44:03 <kerio> how the hell would you brick it
Dec 16 16:44:11 <kerio> the n900 is so ridiculously software-resilient
Dec 16 16:44:25 <kerio> you can basically overwrite everything that's writable with random data
Dec 16 16:44:29 <kerio> and you can recover via software
Dec 16 16:44:51 <bencoh> that's true iff you have a usb port ;)
Dec 16 16:44:53 <bencoh> port*
Dec 16 17:03:30 <pingvixer> ~tabletsdev
Dec 16 17:03:30 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads
Dec 16 17:07:44 <pingvixer> ~emmc
Dec 16 17:07:44 <infobot> i guess emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2
Dec 16 17:08:04 <pingvixer> ~emmc2
Dec 16 17:08:04 <infobot> well, emmc2 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22FGDOJCSI/--LID--FiRe1275064390175/163EC1AE_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.IBERIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22VHGOMWUG/--LID--FiRe1274862877184/E3AD4912_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SEAP_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or see emmc3
Dec 16 17:08:32 <pingvixer> ~emmc3
Dec 16 17:08:33 <infobot> well, emmc3 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/4/--FID--A0A22UYGVCFDF/--LID--FiRe1272381325983/E14B4F3B_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SCANDINAVIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin
Dec 16 17:10:07 <sixwheeledbeast1> antranigv: I think dr_frost_dk was offering repairs in that area over on TMO.
Dec 16 17:13:16 <antranigv> sixwheeledbeast: in NL ? k, I'll check TMO right now, thanks!
Dec 16 17:13:53 <sixwheeledbeast> antranigv: not seen him about for a while tho
Dec 16 17:14:13 <sixwheeledbeast> antranigv: see ~usb-fix
Dec 16 17:14:18 <sixwheeledbeast> ~usb-fix
Dec 16 17:14:19 <infobot> usbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt
Dec 16 17:18:39 <antranigv> sixwheeledbeast: tha~nk ^^
Dec 16 17:19:28 <sixwheeledbeast> antranigv: np
Dec 16 17:28:53 <pingvixer> anyone knows the differences between these emmc{,2,3} ?
Dec 16 17:41:54 <sixwheeledbeast> pingvixer: hopefully they are the same thing, just different sources.
Dec 16 17:43:35 <pingvixer> sixwheeledbeast: then why different sizes ? I downloaded the first one, so I'll reflash it later. hope it's 1.3 :)
Dec 16 17:45:39 <sixwheeledbeast> pingvixer: different variant, MR0 is Global Variant IIRC
Dec 16 17:47:09 <pingvixer> That will do good, thanks!
Dec 16 17:59:51 <Guest80257> testing?
Dec 16 18:00:10 <antranigv> Guest80257: you have a connection :)
Dec 16 18:00:49 <Guest80257> thanks antranigv. What's the command to get the motd?
Dec 16 18:01:12 <antranigv> try
Dec 16 18:01:12 <antranigv> ~motd
Dec 16 18:01:13 <infobot> In Life, ibot is always logged in as root
Dec 16 18:01:25 <Guest80257> ~motd
Dec 16 18:01:25 <infobot> In Life, ibot is always logged in as root
Dec 16 18:08:23 <Guest80257> ~tabletsdev
Dec 16 18:08:24 <infobot> somebody said tabletsdev was http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads
Dec 16 18:08:50 <Guest80257> somebody said tabletsdev was http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads
Dec 16 18:09:34 <Guest80257> okay you know what I'm rather gonna try this on a real PC, sorry to bother
Dec 16 18:10:06 <kerio> the fuck
Dec 16 18:11:11 <Guest80257> rightclicking doesn't work in ssh (brainfart)
Dec 16 21:20:19 <Vajb> btw is it possible to enable r&d straight from device?
Dec 16 21:28:57 <Oksana> N900? Think so...
Dec 16 21:29:25 <Vajb> oh yes n900
Dec 16 21:29:48 <Vajb> would like to see what happens if my test device doesn't boot himself
Dec 16 21:29:57 <Oksana> Vajb: Maybe, this one? http://maemo.org/packages/view/mad-developer/
Dec 16 21:30:41 <Vajb> i like the name already
Dec 16 21:34:49 <Oksana> I'm not sure whether it allows to enable R&D mode, though :-/ Haven't used MADDE for a long time.
Dec 16 21:39:49 <Vajb> i will soon know, if my battery lasts long enough for it to install
Dec 16 21:41:03 <Oksana> Charge the phone while it installs the package?
Dec 16 21:44:28 <Vajb> yup just found my charger, but it seems that that program doesn't make that happen
Dec 16 21:46:10 <Oksana> One moment...
Dec 16 21:46:50 <Oksana> Try, in X Terminal: "$ flasher --help"
Dec 16 21:48:12 <Vajb> tried flasher --enable-rd-mode, but it gives me suitable usb device not found error
Dec 16 21:49:20 <Oksana> On device?
Dec 16 21:49:49 <Oksana> Ok...
Dec 16 21:49:58 <Vajb> yes
Dec 16 21:50:25 <Vajb> i installed that open flasher coz i thought it'll do the trick
Dec 16 21:53:12 <Oksana> Heh, does the flasher expect that I will flash one N900 from another N900?
Dec 16 21:54:04 <Oksana> Theoretically possible, with one N900 using USB host mode...
Dec 16 21:54:29 <Vajb> hah no idea. It might be that im just trying to do something impossible
Dec 16 22:08:21 <Sicelo> there are indeed some users who have flashed one N900 with another, successfully
Dec 16 22:12:46 <Vajb> thats actually pretty cool, huh
Dec 16 22:13:26 <kerio> you probably need a powered usb hub to do that, tho
Dec 16 22:38:03 <Oksana> Vajb: Enabling-disabling R&D mode on N900, directly: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75638
Dec 16 22:50:24 <Vajb> yes i found that but were still looking for other option
Dec 16 22:57:37 <Vajb> meh it seems i can't remember my test devices ssh pass
Dec 16 23:06:56 <Oksana> ssh password = password of user you are trying to ssh as = was 1234 or root or something by default
Dec 16 23:25:47 <Vajb> mine wasn't that but it's solved already
Dec 16 23:26:04 <Vajb> tho i didn't get that program to work yet
Dec 16 23:26:38 <Oksana> rdmod?
Dec 16 23:28:59 <Vajb> yeah that
Dec 16 23:48:07 <Vajb> ok got it up and running
Dec 16 23:48:28 <Vajb> disabled just lifeguard resets at first
Dec 16 23:49:11 <Vajb> should i set them on and off to see which prevents rebooting to narrow it down?
Dec 17 00:08:29 <Oksana> Just do not change R&D flags too often. Only when necessary. I am afraid for integrity of this memory (what was it called, CAL?).
Dec 17 00:11:14 <Oksana> So, what is CellePhone battery? Same as PolarCell battery?
Dec 17 00:13:00 <Oksana> Because it gets confusing: http://www.cellephone.de/en/cell-phone-accessories/battery/nokia/battery-li-ion-for-nokia-3650-6030-6085-6230-6600-6620-6630-6670-6680-7600-7610-e50-e60-replaced-bl-5c-bl-5ca/a-1216/ http://www.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Battery-Nokia-6630-3650-3120-6680-1208-1650-E60-1100-1110i-1200-3100-/371155669855
Dec 17 00:37:22 <Oksana> I don't know what they are playing at. CellePhone battery: 8.90Euro: http://www.cellephone.de/en/cell-phone-accessories/battery/nokia/battery-li-ion-for-nokia-3650-6030-6085-6230-6600-6620-6630-6670-6680-7600-7610-e50-e60-replaced-bl-5c-bl-5ca/a-1216/ PolarCell battery being sold by CellePhone: 12.90Euro: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PolarCell-Akku-f-Nokia-GPS-LD-3W-ersetzt-BL-5C-BL-5CA-BR-5C-BL-5CB
Dec 17 00:37:24 <Oksana> -BL-6C-/331243483108
Dec 17 00:37:25 <totalizator> hmm, can I modify source package instead of making patches?
Dec 17 00:37:49 <Oksana> Think so. I do not make patches, generally.
Dec 17 00:39:17 <totalizator> \o/
Dec 17 00:40:34 <totalizator> btw, I don't think anyone cares as long as it's extras-devel
Dec 17 00:47:14 <bencoh> next maintainer will care :>
Dec 17 00:47:43 <bencoh> but same here, I usually just init a git rep and make a branch
Dec 17 00:48:52 <bencoh> (patches arent really useful if we have a commitlog with explicit commit messages for n900-specific stuff)
Dec 17 01:07:10 <Oksana> Ok, why does old PolarCell have 1303 on hologram, and the two new ones have 1312? A different batch?
Dec 17 01:36:32 <totalizator> hah! finally got working Telegram IM plugin for Pidgin
Dec 17 01:38:13 <totalizator> time for some testing and I'll upload it to N900 extras-devel; maybe tomorrow
Dec 17 01:38:24 <Oksana> Thank you! :-)
Dec 17 01:43:04 <totalizator> hah2! it even displays incoming images (unfortunately no sending yet)
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