**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 25 02:59:58 2014 Dec 25 04:28:43 hi hi... Dec 25 04:35:03 hello hello... Dec 25 04:52:16 libc6-dev has version-problems with dependencies on libc6. CSSU-Testing, latest update. Dec 25 08:43:01 Vajb: yes, have considered, but use this for work on this same network and have a mandate to do it this way :P Dec 25 08:43:19 sorry for the inconvenience, you're welcome to /ignore if it bothers you (not sarcasm) Dec 25 08:44:47 you can also turn off nick-change notifications in your client, I believe Dec 25 08:45:21 on other networks, I do not use nick-away Dec 25 09:36:53 you're right, i can /ignore you quite easily Dec 25 09:44:27 rm_work: this autoaway nick change is not allowed and you can be kicked from channel Dec 25 09:45:05 kerio: i was being serious, i don't want to annoy anyone but this is kind of a requirement for me <_< Dec 25 09:45:18 I have been in this channel for about 7 years now without complaints until today though t-t Dec 25 09:45:59 i won't take offense if people /ignore me Dec 25 09:46:30 I remember that operator kicked some people when they have enabled some autoaway message/nick Dec 25 09:46:51 i guess if it happens, it happens :( Dec 25 09:47:24 don't think there is a way to fix it other than having two different networks set up on my bouncer maybe, one for JUST this channel... Dec 25 09:48:27 dunno, feels like it is not a big deal for people to handle it on their own if they don't like to see nick-changes T_T Dec 25 09:48:52 there is /ignore and it is easy to turn off nick-change announcements altogether in most clients Dec 25 09:49:30 without knowing all the ins-and-outs here .. how about you connect when you're available? can use logs to find out what was said in your absence ... not sure Dec 25 09:49:40 I use a bouncer Dec 25 09:49:42 ZNC Dec 25 09:50:10 it is immensely troublesome to have it join/part from a specific channel all the time, and it is exactly the same number of messages for people here :P Dec 25 09:50:31 I just don't see it as a huge issue, nor do I remember this channel having such regulations Dec 25 09:50:55 i've been working on Maemo since ITOS2007 / 770 days, would be a shame to leave but i honestly just lurk anymore anyway Dec 25 09:52:30 I am totally with you that nick-away is dumb, but honestly such regulations seem a bit like an admin having a power trip... if I get banned from the channel for that, I guess this isn't somewhere i'd want to be anyway T_T Dec 25 09:53:09 i'll leave it up to fate :) Dec 25 09:53:23 :) Dec 25 09:54:17 but it is fun to see that people are still working on and using Maemo stuff Dec 25 09:54:36 I still wear my Maemo lanyard every day at work with my badge on it Dec 25 09:54:50 and that should give you the right to act like a douchebag on irc? Dec 25 09:55:02 kerio: I really don't know who is acting like that here :/ Dec 25 09:55:28 * Sicelo wants that lanyard Dec 25 09:56:00 I am not name calling, and I have explained that I can't do what you are asking me to do, but have also explained two EASY ways to have it not affect you (/ignore or turning off nick-change announcements in your client) Dec 25 09:56:03 think what you want :( Dec 25 09:56:24 and I am not being sarcastic when I have said that I am sorry that it bothers you Dec 25 09:57:12 Sicelo: where are you located? I think I still have an extra or two somewhere Dec 25 09:57:36 South Africa, unfortunately Dec 25 09:57:47 hmm, yeah, that might be hard Dec 25 09:57:55 though mail goes most everywhere these days :P Dec 25 09:58:53 of course, haha Dec 25 10:05:49 i know this is not news, but i'm finding gnuplot to be extra cool, especially having it on my N900 as well Dec 25 10:06:25 yeah, I just started playing with it a bit for data visualization for my benchmarking tools :P Dec 25 10:06:29 gnuplot on n900 ? what do you use it for ? Dec 25 10:06:53 heck of a lot easier to use than RRD graphs, that's for sure T_T Dec 25 10:26:56 surprised to see my humble question brought up so much convedrsation :) Dec 25 10:27:14 -d* Dec 25 10:27:16 heh Dec 25 10:27:22 yeah, apparently some people feel strongly Dec 25 10:28:08 i wasn't annoyed or anything, but was just wondering if it's necessary Dec 25 10:28:16 unfortunately not everyone agrees on the correct method, so i'm stuck doing this :( Dec 25 10:28:40 and since this is quite silent channel my screen was filled by ur nick changes Dec 25 10:28:52 yeah, people i work with get confused (and frustrated) because they don't understand all the ins-and-outs of IRC <_< Dec 25 10:28:56 thus, nick-away Dec 25 10:29:30 heh everything always comes around work Dec 25 10:29:40 rm_work: it is just on topic at the moment. Someone has been kicked recently for similar annoying messages. Dec 25 10:30:24 yeah, i mean, hopefully it's not too annoying... part/join is the same number of messages, which would have to be my other option, and that way I'd lose logs Dec 25 10:30:43 not to mention I'm not even sure how i'd get a single channel to part/join instead of nick-change on away <_< Dec 25 10:30:52 might have to write my own ZNC plugin Dec 25 10:30:58 maybe we just need some random zitchat to mask it :p Dec 25 10:31:02 Admittedly more annoying every 5 minute messages but I feel that has bought it to light Dec 25 10:31:45 normally my nick-changes will be ~4 times per day -- when I come in to work, two for lunchtime, and one when I leave Dec 25 10:31:57 and btw i've ignored parts, joins and quits already Dec 25 10:31:59 it's probably more often now that i'm on xmas vacation though and brought my work machine home :P Dec 25 10:32:22 yeah, it is just as easy to ignore nick-change, at least on my client Dec 25 10:33:04 i guess Dec 25 10:33:07 i generally thing of it more as a preference thing, was surprised to see someone take it as far as a bannable offense for a channel Dec 25 10:33:11 Vajb: that's fine my client does that dynamically too, but I don't think that's the point. Dec 25 10:33:15 yeah, this used to be a quite silent channel :P Dec 25 10:33:15 s/thing/think/ Dec 25 10:33:17 rm_work meant: i generally think of it more as a preference thing, was surprised to see someone take it as far as a bannable offense for a channel Dec 25 10:33:25 but having those ignored has down side Dec 25 10:33:44 well, I think we've spent more lines discussing it than my client generates in a week :P Dec 25 10:33:48 i don't have any idea of who comes or goes Dec 25 10:34:14 tho it doesn't matter that often, but sometimes it does Dec 25 10:35:14 anyway, i've said my bit, i'd rather not leave but i can't change the way my client works because of work requirements, so I'll have to see if anyone continues to care, since i enjoy being in this channel :) Dec 25 10:35:48 rm_work: and to be honest i thought that u don't know about /away and wanted to point out a solution :) Dec 25 10:35:55 I generally like everyone here, though I think I got off on the wrong foot with some people today who didn't know me from before Dec 25 10:35:56 correct me if I am wrong but doesn't ZNC mean you can have multiple clients without nick changes? Dec 25 10:36:08 sixwheeledbeast: yeah, it's when my computer goes to sleep it changes me to away Dec 25 10:36:22 has nothing to do with what machine I connect from Dec 25 10:36:31 or rather, if all clients disconnect Dec 25 10:36:46 I *believe* i am using /away in addition Dec 25 10:36:53 rm_work: nobody wanted to see you leave. I think it was a question. Dec 25 10:36:53 though I'd have to check the config Dec 25 10:37:09 sixwheeledbeast: I was threated with being banned at least once <_< Dec 25 10:37:14 and called a d-bag :( Dec 25 10:37:45 rm_work: I didn't see it as a threat at all. Dec 25 10:37:50 I really don't mean to inconvenience anyone Dec 25 10:37:59 just that it had happened Dec 25 10:38:28 possibly misinterpreted then Dec 25 10:38:40 though I am not sure how I could misinterpret the name-calling : Dec 25 10:38:42 :/ Dec 25 10:38:53 people are entitled to their opinions though :) Dec 25 10:39:04 who are the channel ops these days? Dec 25 10:39:21 not a whole lot of people I recognize are around anymore Dec 25 10:39:22 u can call me sergeant ;) Dec 25 10:39:37 exactly, as I said it was on topic due to the recent kicking Dec 25 10:40:27 re ops I have NFC Dec 25 10:41:07 heh, well cool Dec 25 10:41:45 I mean, I really hope it isn't that annoying -- was pretty surprised to hear someone was kicked for it at all -- unless they were doing it like every 2 minutes and not actually responding to pings? Dec 25 10:42:45 I have had this nick-away set up for at least a year and this is the first time anyone has even commented on it in any of the ... 20 or so channels i'm in right now Dec 25 10:43:29 well im been here just few weeks... Dec 25 10:43:38 i've* Dec 25 10:44:22 I thought so, I remember someone mentioned it has been removed from the latest znc Dec 25 10:44:24 http://wiki.znc.in/Awaynick Dec 25 10:44:53 heh, i would have had to manually add it back T_T Dec 25 10:47:26 also, I think this is the single longest non-work-related conversation i've had on a single topic in a long time :P Dec 25 10:48:04 cool Dec 25 10:48:33 loosen that neck tie. Open up top button Dec 25 10:48:46 hah Dec 25 10:49:22 fortunately it has been a couple of years since I had to wear a tie to work... and my co-workers even use IRC, no less! (instead of blocking IRC ports via corporate firewall) Dec 25 10:49:55 rm_work: your welcome :) Dec 25 10:50:26 so, you guys use n800? n900? Dec 25 10:50:31 n810? :P Dec 25 10:50:40 connecting from it ;) Dec 25 10:50:53 n900 that is Dec 25 10:50:56 n900 Dec 25 10:50:59 cool Dec 25 10:51:11 i don't know if any of the stuff I wrote for n900 is still around :( Dec 25 10:51:21 my bigger contributions were n800-ish Dec 25 10:51:24 and n950 Dec 25 10:52:20 would guess they r Dec 25 10:52:38 rm_work: what n900 stuff, I would imagine they are Dec 25 10:52:41 you mean the malware you wrote for N900? it was found, and `rm -rf` Dec 25 10:52:45 :D Dec 25 10:52:53 Sicelo: DAMN! you're on to me! Dec 25 10:53:00 :p Dec 25 10:53:26 =) Dec 25 10:53:45 eh, all I really worked on for n900 was packaging related stuff Dec 25 10:53:53 which I think got tossed when CSSU came in Dec 25 10:54:05 and Packrat, which i doubt works anymore :( Dec 25 10:54:32 oh wow it totally still works O_o Dec 25 10:55:17 wonder if anyone still uses it... http://ageofikon.com/prh/ Dec 25 10:56:05 ah looks like it lost most of its repos Dec 25 10:56:39 yes it seems so Dec 25 10:56:56 bet i could fix it up again, but i'm sure there's a better package indexer around by now Dec 25 10:56:59 at least, I hope so :P Dec 25 10:59:17 * Vajb has no idea Dec 25 10:59:39 how do you guys search for packages these days? Dec 25 10:59:52 and how many private repos still exist? do the nokia repos still exist even?! Dec 25 11:00:34 i just use ham Dec 25 11:00:43 I use apt-cache search Dec 25 11:00:44 heh, i guess that works Dec 25 11:00:48 or maemo.org/packages Dec 25 11:01:03 or google if i need more details and info Dec 25 11:01:31 and ... yeah, the nokia repo are still working, at least for fremantle stuff Dec 25 11:01:41 yeah, there used to be a ton of tiny private repos that standard tools didn't index (and apt wouldn't know about unless you added them) Dec 25 11:01:45 so it was useful to have an indexer Dec 25 11:01:55 but not getting too frequent updates.... Dec 25 11:02:07 rm_work: ~pkg Dec 25 11:02:09 people could post their repo on a wiki page and packrat would pick them up and index them Dec 25 11:02:10 ~pkg Dec 25 11:02:10 well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ Dec 25 11:02:23 yeah, it doesn't look like this indexes private repos? Dec 25 11:02:50 I still dunno how large extras are Dec 25 11:03:07 nope, upload to extras instead of private repos Dec 25 11:03:19 is extras the rabbit hole? Dec 25 11:03:20 yeah, guess that opened up a bit more Dec 25 11:03:31 used to be more locked down, there were only a few with access to do so Dec 25 11:04:04 you have to apply but devs push everything to extras-devel Dec 25 11:04:24 rm_work: mBarcode is still about ;) Dec 25 11:04:30 heh Dec 25 11:04:32 yeah Dec 25 11:04:55 I never ported advanced-backlight past diablo since the fremantle statusbar changed so much Dec 25 11:05:04 i had a development version that worked but no one cared Dec 25 11:05:16 lol, I even remember quim walking up and asking me "why do we need this, it works fine" :P Dec 25 11:05:43 :) Dec 25 11:06:28 i did a ton of optimization testing with mplayer around video / a2dp too Dec 25 11:06:38 but I think they eventually fixed that stuff upstream Dec 25 11:06:39 so if u quit using maemo what is ur choise of device now rm_work? Dec 25 11:07:11 rooted android devices, as close to AOSP as possible <_< Dec 25 11:07:20 I wish using the n950 was still a viable choice Dec 25 11:07:41 i see Dec 25 11:07:46 my n900 battery started flaking out Dec 25 11:07:51 or possibly the mainboard Dec 25 11:07:56 it reboots a lot :( Dec 25 11:08:17 quit maemo :0 Dec 25 11:08:40 I wouldn't touch android with a long stick Dec 25 11:08:43 n950 is great but has essentially no support since nokia dumped the whole department after Elop Dec 25 11:08:52 just what happens with my other device Dec 25 11:09:27 did n950 work as phone too? Dec 25 11:09:28 and since not many of them actually exist T_T Dec 25 11:09:30 yeah Dec 25 11:10:05 oh i read somewhere that it lacked phone modem :o Dec 25 11:10:22 or something Dec 25 11:10:29 nah, it worked fine Dec 25 11:12:15 unfortunately the phones are not viable anymore due to lack of 4G and no way to handle secure email as required by most corp exchange policies :( Dec 25 11:12:23 hmm i've absorbed false information then... Dec 25 11:12:52 I still use the n900 in my car for music though (FM transmitter, woo!), just have to put up with reboots randomly Dec 25 11:13:02 mostly it works as long as it's plugged in Dec 25 11:13:16 maybe fresh battery Dec 25 11:13:25 possibly Dec 25 11:13:34 neo900 should have 4G, get a new battery polarcell's are good. Dec 25 11:13:38 ~polarcell Dec 25 11:13:39 well, polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement Dec 25 11:13:53 hmm Dec 25 11:13:59 looks like work has continued :P Dec 25 11:14:11 obviously you may need a link for your region Dec 25 11:14:12 I remember getting a crazy custom-made battery shipped from somewhere in germany Dec 25 11:14:13 i have polarcell, but could use mugen Dec 25 11:14:16 for the n800 Dec 25 11:14:28 it was... kinda funky :P but this looks legit Dec 25 11:15:25 I followed neo900 for a while, didn't know they were still making progress... that's docscrutinizer's thing, isn't it? Dec 25 11:15:32 i read that someone made dual polarcell battery with mugen backcover Dec 25 11:15:33 or am i mis-remembering Dec 25 11:16:03 i think so too Dec 25 11:16:19 rm_work: that is correct Dec 25 11:16:38 doesn't look like it's available yet :( Dec 25 11:16:45 when it is, I will definitely be interested Dec 25 11:17:45 ha "plus sturdy USB" Dec 25 11:17:45 ~9 Dec 25 11:17:46 well, neo900 is at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142, or at http://neo900.org/ Dec 25 11:17:53 that totally happened to my first n900 T_T Dec 25 11:18:02 pop, no more microusb port T_T Dec 25 11:18:33 * sixwheeledbeast has amazingly not had huge uUSB issues. Dec 25 11:18:44 * Vajb neither Dec 25 11:18:55 but i never danced with my phne Dec 25 11:19:18 I swear it was just from normal use (charging) Dec 25 11:19:24 +i mostly charge it while i sleep Dec 25 11:19:42 though I had one of the first production run, I heard they made them sturdier in later batches Dec 25 11:20:13 i thought that was just users who did that Dec 25 11:20:15 and it has not happened to my current one *crosses fingers* Dec 25 11:20:24 nah, it was an actual design issue Dec 25 11:20:49 the solder that held it on and the pins they used were not up to the amount of force used regularly just to plug in and remove the usb for charging nightly Dec 25 11:20:57 they beefed it up later Dec 25 11:21:27 i c Dec 25 11:21:48 tho i filed those lock pins from plug also Dec 25 11:21:57 but never opened my device Dec 25 11:22:15 yeah, the lock pins on the oem nokia cable were pretty intense :P Dec 25 11:22:20 tho been planning to open that rebooting one Dec 25 11:22:41 quite long indeed Dec 25 11:22:52 i had to open mine once to fix the display ribbon that came loose from being in a car crash and it flying out of my hands and hitting the dash O_o Dec 25 11:22:53 It was a poor idea being surface mounted Dec 25 11:22:57 maybe inspired be wolverine =o Dec 25 11:23:05 be=by* Dec 25 11:23:16 (I was not driving, by the way) Dec 25 11:23:28 good save :) Dec 25 11:23:32 hopefully that was clear by the n900 being in my hands at the time :P Dec 25 11:23:39 but maybe not so clear these days <_< Dec 25 11:24:19 i agree Dec 25 11:24:56 seems to me that most truck drivers have phone on their ear Dec 25 11:25:09 or at least it seems so when they drive pass Dec 25 11:25:42 in many states (I am in the US) they are passing "distracted driving" laws now Dec 25 11:25:43 we have truck camera vans over here to catch that. Dec 25 11:26:02 so it is illegal and a primary offense to be texting/talking while driving (though hands-free bluetooth or whatever is ok) Dec 25 11:26:34 we have law already, but it's kinda hard to keep up Dec 25 11:27:28 penalty points and fine Dec 25 11:29:22 i think here it's just fine Dec 25 11:29:27 never had one tho Dec 25 11:29:49 from that matter that is... Dec 25 11:29:55 heh Dec 25 11:30:29 yeah, my car has bluetooth built in, so I just use that, and "ok google" on android lets me dictate text messages... <_< Dec 25 11:30:39 making me feel bad for using android again <_< Dec 25 11:31:04 btw for me it's strange that in us they have lots of android phones with kbd and in europe none Dec 25 11:31:13 would probably be possible to write an app to do the same on maemo, though probably still using the google voice recognition API... Dec 25 11:31:29 Vajb: well, there are a few, but not many Dec 25 11:32:01 haven't seen any in fland, tho not been that actively looking Dec 25 11:32:06 mostly hardware keyboards (which I used to swear by, and almost rioted when the N9 didn't have one) have gone away in favor of Swype / voice recognition Dec 25 11:32:26 even N9 came with Swype and it actually worked ok Dec 25 11:32:37 still doesn't help when you need to do terminal work though T_T Dec 25 11:33:04 would sound a bit strange for by standers Dec 25 11:33:06 rm_work: someone started a project like that. Not sure of it's status lately Dec 25 11:33:39 hmm Dec 25 11:34:07 i use the google voice API for my home automation work, and it tends to work nicely Dec 25 11:34:37 Ah found it http://maemo.org/packages/view/saera/ Dec 25 11:34:59 and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84753 Dec 25 11:35:08 is there an app for carrying wood in and lighting a stove? Dec 25 11:35:30 lol Dec 25 11:35:54 ah he went with sphinx Dec 25 11:36:00 Vajb: woodchuck? :) Dec 25 11:37:11 i checked out sphinx but it was a PitA compared to just shipping the audio to google (though much less bandwidth :P) Dec 25 11:37:14 I wonder how Swype would perform as a term input after some training period :) Dec 25 11:37:15 ah missed that coz were looking for beaver Dec 25 11:37:27 also tended to be way less accurate in my tests :( Dec 25 11:37:39 rm_work: yes development disappeared when python was getting heavy and a switch to C++ was to be done IIRC Dec 25 11:38:05 also yes, bits had to be hard coded for accuracy Dec 25 11:38:41 sixwheeledbeast: does this thing actually work ? Dec 25 11:38:57 pocketsphinx is pretty easy to use Dec 25 11:39:25 bencoh: when I tested it yes, but it was still very "devel" Dec 25 11:39:49 funniest bit was the chuck norris questions :) Dec 25 11:40:05 can it call contacts now ? Dec 25 11:42:25 not that I remember. Dec 25 11:47:02 i always found it a bit odd to use voice commands Dec 25 11:47:41 I have pretty much only wanted to use voice commands for everything, since the first Iron Man movie :P Dec 25 11:47:50 Jarvis was too cool :) Dec 25 11:48:12 haha Dec 25 11:49:25 :] Dec 25 11:51:51 mh, I have many buttons that will do Dec 25 11:55:57 i had forgotten that even michael knight spoke to kitt Dec 25 11:56:19 maybe, just maybe i should give a go for voice... Dec 25 11:56:40 Kit could have a conversation back tho... Dec 25 11:56:56 true Dec 25 11:58:00 but there is a chance for it to be nagging b... Dec 25 11:58:10 * sixwheeledbeast remembers making knight rider lights for his school electronics project many years ago... Dec 25 11:58:23 if it just obeys... Dec 25 11:58:26 lol Dec 25 11:58:47 "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave..." Dec 25 12:07:12 :)) Dec 25 12:15:19 Merry Xmas, Dave… Dec 25 12:20:13 whelp, bedtime. guess you get to see my nick change again momentarily <_< Dec 25 12:22:13 :] Dec 25 12:22:24 and yes, merry christmas to those who celebrate it :) Dec 25 12:30:21 omg he did it :p Dec 25 12:49:42 still not sure I understand the whole nick change/ZNC issue anyway. Dec 25 12:56:39 Where can i get a decent replacement battery in the US? Dec 25 12:58:41 ebay i guess Dec 25 12:58:42 Cant find anything in stock of the ones listed at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568 Dec 25 12:59:16 try ebay -> n900 polarcell Dec 25 13:06:59 Vajb: only one listed is shipped from germany! Dec 25 13:18:11 trumee: is that a problem? Dec 25 13:18:48 to the US, it could be :) Dec 25 13:19:57 Shipping would be slow. I was hoping to get from a local source. Dec 25 13:23:28 trumee: they where pretty quick shipping to the UK 3-4 days IIRC. I suppose it is the wrong time for shipping things about. Dec 25 13:27:03 trumee: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261362294127 ? Dec 25 13:27:38 hmm, reminds me I should buy a few of those ... in january maybe Dec 25 13:28:33 (end of december prolly isnt the best time for efficient online shopping / delivery :) Dec 25 13:31:00 :nod: exactly Dec 25 13:32:06 sixwheeledbeast: is that battery reliable? Dec 25 13:32:12 Maybe some US folk could pool a shipment of polarcells. Dec 25 13:32:39 trumee: no idea, it's advertised as "OEM" Dec 25 13:33:24 What's it like shipping lithium batteries about over there at the moment? Dec 25 13:40:08 grr Dec 25 13:47:34 what about mugen batteries? Dec 25 13:47:40 trumee Dec 25 13:47:51 they r in us Dec 25 13:49:04 Too expensive for me :( Dec 25 13:50:31 yes they r expensive Dec 25 13:50:41 :/ Dec 25 13:53:51 hmm, do you guys notice video tearing with cutetube ? Dec 25 13:55:20 sometimes i have some shattering, but i think that is because of video packing stuff Dec 25 13:56:03 shattering ? macroblocks ? Dec 25 13:56:27 more like lots of vertical lines Dec 25 13:56:43 hmm no horizontal Dec 25 13:56:52 from left to right Dec 25 13:56:56 then we might be referring to the same thing Dec 25 13:57:08 like video is made on thin stripes Dec 25 13:57:21 slight horizontal lines appearing when in fast motion ? Dec 25 13:57:51 any movement on certain videos Dec 25 13:58:10 but some videos r fine Dec 25 13:58:43 but it doesn't matter since mostly i just listen music through itt Dec 25 16:05:41 just got an n810 for xmas. Already found the extras and extras-testing repos. any other must have things? Dec 25 18:02:37 hey, I'm trying to follow these instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Compiling_on_the_N810 Dec 25 18:02:52 everything works fine until step 8, when my n810 complains that gcc does not exist Dec 25 18:03:12 after running "find / | grep gcc", I have determined that the gcc binary is not present on the system Dec 25 18:03:15 any ideas? Dec 25 18:18:54 888 Dec 25 18:18:59 sry Dec 25 18:51:03 dpkg -i doesnt complain during instalation Drevkevac ? Dec 25 18:51:52 fmunozs, it was not Dec 25 18:52:15 fmunozs, for the record, my end objective is to get tmux running... I cant find a working binary anywhere Dec 25 18:52:28 fmunozs, so I decided compiling from source would be nice Dec 25 18:52:37 fmunozs, would also be nice to have newer python and whatnot Dec 25 18:56:43 Drevkevac, you probably will need more than just gcc to compile python, but getting gcc to work is a start, I remember there used to be a VM with the maemo SDK preinstalled, maybe that's an easier way? Dec 25 19:11:06 the N900 SDK also contains the toolchain for the N810 Dec 25 19:14:09 the wiki did mention something about a cross compiler... maybe i could statically link those things Dec 25 20:40:24 Merry christmas Dec 25 20:40:44 who can give me link for flashing my nokia n900 ? Dec 25 20:40:50 with last maemo version Dec 25 20:41:25 !flash Dec 25 20:42:08 ~flasher Dec 25 20:42:09 it has been said that flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Dec 25 20:42:15 ~emmc Dec 25 20:42:15 somebody said emmc was is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 Dec 25 20:42:48 something's missing but I cant remember the alias ... check the wiki :) Dec 25 20:42:54 ~nand Dec 25 20:42:55 i heard nand is the basicly a binary operator that negatates the effects an and operation (see and); also nand gate builds all other gates Dec 25 20:42:59 hm, nope Dec 25 20:43:07 ~fiasco Dec 25 20:43:07 L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ Dec 25 20:43:10 meh Dec 25 20:46:21 thank(s bencoh Dec 25 20:46:28 and merry christmas Dec 25 20:46:32 :) Dec 25 21:47:39 n900 money for x-mas :) Dec 25 23:42:23 re Dec 25 23:42:30 merry christmas again Dec 25 23:43:05 do you know wich EMMC i need to use for flashing my nokia n900 ? Dec 25 23:43:37 i have only RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Dec 25 23:43:46 and i remember i use 2 roms Dec 25 23:43:51 when i flash it Dec 25 23:44:03 1 fireware and 1 EMMC Dec 25 23:44:05 ôÔ Dec 25 23:44:18 ~emmc Dec 25 23:44:18 emmc is probably is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 Dec 25 23:44:22 ~emmc2 Dec 25 23:44:22 somebody said emmc2 was http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22FGDOJCSI/--LID--FiRe1275064390175/163EC1AE_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.IBERIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22VHGOMWUG/--LID--FiRe1274862877184/E3AD4912_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SEAP_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or see emmc3 Dec 25 23:44:24 ~emmc3 Dec 25 23:44:25 rumour has it, emmc3 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/4/--FID--A0A22UYGVCFDF/--LID--FiRe1272381325983/E14B4F3B_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SCANDINAVIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin Dec 25 23:44:33 why 3 ? Dec 25 23:44:36 ~flashing Dec 25 23:44:37 i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir/*, cd into it, do ./flash-it-all.sh Dec 25 23:44:38 different version ? Dec 25 23:45:01 or locale Dec 25 23:45:06 thx you Dec 25 23:45:10 i will use central europe Dec 25 23:45:12 np Dec 25 23:45:29 merry christmas Dec 25 23:45:47 ~fireware Dec 25 23:46:06 ~vanilla Dec 25 23:46:07 vanilla is, like, just plain old up & down & up & down & up & down & up & down & ooooh!, or the finest of the flavors Dec 25 23:46:11 hm Dec 25 23:46:13 !!! Dec 25 23:46:16 ho yep Dec 25 23:46:19 it's that :) Dec 25 23:46:23 i remember Dec 25 23:46:25 ^^ Dec 25 23:46:28 vanilla Dec 25 23:46:35 and emmc Dec 25 23:46:41 yeah Dec 25 23:46:58 opps Dec 25 23:46:58 oops Dec 25 23:47:11 i didn"t read before right , just see ~vanilla Dec 25 23:47:12 -___- Dec 25 23:47:12 ~combined Dec 25 23:47:13 i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Dec 25 23:47:26 i look that Dec 25 23:47:29 but not understand :/ Dec 25 23:47:38 about fiasco Dec 25 23:48:17 i will go flash it Dec 25 23:48:19 thx Dec 25 23:48:24 np Dec 26 00:36:28 ... Dec 26 00:36:40 my n810 is now reporting under application manager that I have no applications installed Dec 26 00:50:11 does anyone still have working images/installation files for flasher? Dec 26 00:51:12 ~skeiron Dec 26 00:51:16 hm Dec 26 00:51:30 http://web.archive.org/web/20131117073522/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ Dec 26 00:51:33 maybe Dec 26 00:51:52 ~tabletsdev Dec 26 00:51:52 from memory, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads Dec 26 00:53:47 this is the bin I found, does this sound like the correct/latest version? RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Dec 26 01:00:01 dunno i never had n810 Dec 26 01:06:10 flasher does this when I try to flash my n810: Dec 26 01:06:10 Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy Dec 26 01:08:47 theres some linux driver i forgot that likes to claim at least an n900, need to rmmod that Dec 26 01:09:20 nvm Dec 26 01:09:22 fixed it Dec 26 01:09:31 http://www.likely-answer.com/1858360/Flasher-Usb-Problem,-Yes,-I-Rtff-Before-Posting Dec 26 01:09:33 hmm tho i think that had to do with the modem which i guess an n810 doesnt have... Dec 26 01:10:09 oh it is that thing... Dec 26 01:10:23 threw some nasty looking errors, but it looks like the n810 came out okay Dec 26 01:11:16 http://sprunge.us/GaeX if your interested Dec 26 01:12:00 maybe you need to boot in a specific flasher mode Dec 26 01:12:23 I had done so Dec 26 01:12:33 it also probably does not help that I'm flashing from archlinux, not debian Dec 26 01:13:26 dunno then... Dec 26 01:13:33 I suspect some of my previous issues may be the fault of the prior owner... they didn't clean up very well. Hopefully this will make things a little nicer **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 26 02:59:58 2014