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Jan 03 03:26:50 <Steven__> Does kernel-power have btrfs included? The Wiki article doesn't say.
Jan 03 05:08:24 <uhhimhere> freemangordon:
Jan 03 05:08:39 <uhhimhere> freemangordon: so i found a single file under /arch/arm/config
Jan 03 05:09:03 <uhhimhere> bcm21664_hawaii_ss_kylepro_rev00_defconfig
Jan 03 05:09:11 <uhhimhere> can that be used to create a device tree for the board
Jan 03 05:14:59 <uhhimhere> freemangordon: here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/aJ2z2rnW
Jan 03 06:42:06 <Vajb> i have r&d mode enaabled and also omap, ext and lifeguardresets flags set. Still my device keeps rebooting randomly.
Jan 03 06:48:26 <Vajb> syslog shows a lot of entries from hald-addon-bme
Jan 03 06:50:46 <Vajb> "server_send_bme_sys_msg: unable to connect to bme socket" "unable to send connection request to bme"
Jan 03 06:51:03 <Vajb> it repeats at every 10secs
Jan 03 06:56:10 <Vajb> hmm actually that isn't anything. It did that while it was charging
Jan 03 07:16:23 <uhhimhere> uhhimhere> device tree basically maps the entire board a soc is on including the soc right? 
Jan 03 07:16:24 <uhhimhere> <uhhimhere> so why cant there be a way to generate a device tree from a running kernel?
Jan 03 07:16:24 <uhhimhere> <uhhimhere> irrespective of whether the kernel was built using DT
Jan 03 07:30:46 <Vajb> btw i also have issue with update to latest cssu thumb
Jan 03 07:31:43 <Vajb> osso-systemui-powerkeymenu 0.3.0.3+0cssu0 is missing
Jan 03 12:24:21 <honestly> ~usbfix
Jan 03 12:24:21 <infobot> i heard usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt
Jan 03 17:09:51 <freemangordon> Vajb: enable cssu-testing repo as well
Jan 03 17:30:28 <sec>  I have a problem, my camera button is too sensible, and when i shake the phone or when im writing a SMS and i press the buton by mistake the camera pops up. Theres any way to disable the camera button permanently?
Jan 03 17:57:19 <freemangordon> sec: camera-ui "general settings"
Jan 03 17:59:10 <sec> freemangordon: I am on CSSU stable, I am assuming this is on Testing or Thumb?
Jan 03 17:59:28 <freemangordon> should be the same on stock camera-ui
Jan 03 17:59:52 <freemangordon> "show on focusbutton press"
Jan 03 17:59:56 <freemangordon> sec: ^^^
Jan 03 18:00:05 <sec> Oh Not there in stock freemangordon :<
Jan 03 18:00:32 <freemangordon> click on the menu, when camera-ui is unmaximized
Jan 03 18:00:50 <sec> Hold on, I'll show you a screenshot
Jan 03 18:02:42 <sec> freemangordon: http://i.imgur.com/NfkbXwg.png
Jan 03 18:03:42 <freemangordon> sec: not there, that option is in a different menu
Jan 03 18:03:53 <sec> Oh
Jan 03 18:03:56 <freemangordon> sec: do as I say:
Jan 03 18:04:05 <freemangordon> 1. open camera-ui
Jan 03 18:04:25 <freemangordon> 2. click somewhere on the preview to unmaximize it
Jan 03 18:04:43 <freemangordon> 3. click on "Camera" on the menu bar
Jan 03 18:04:50 <freemangordon> the option should be there
Jan 03 18:05:17 <sec> I only have Geotagging and General Settings there, and I showed you General Settings
Jan 03 18:05:26 <freemangordon> hmm
Jan 03 18:05:29 <sec> Geotagging doesn't have anything useful either
Jan 03 18:05:57 <freemangordon> weird, I remember I was able to disable launch by focus press in stock camera
Jan 03 18:06:32 <sec> Can I just upgrade the package to the one in Testing without causing a dependency hell?
Jan 03 18:06:48 <sec> IF the option is there
Jan 03 18:07:04 <freemangordon> the option is there for sure
Jan 03 18:08:13 <freemangordon> not sure if you can install camera-ui from cssu-t on stable, there might be more packages needed from -testing
Jan 03 18:08:51 <bencoh> hmm are you sure it's in stock camera-ui ?
Jan 03 18:09:04 <freemangordon> I though so
Jan 03 18:09:34 <freemangordon> but maybe I am using cssu's camera-ui for so long that I have forgotten how's it in stock
Jan 03 18:09:36 <freemangordon> :)
Jan 03 18:09:48 <sec> :P
Jan 03 18:09:52 <bencoh> what is in stock is disabling camera-ui launch when phone is locked and you play with the lens slider
Jan 03 18:10:09 <freemangordon> but for sure there is such option in camera-ui in cssu-testing/thumb
Jan 03 18:10:36 <freemangordon> bencoh: and you can;t disable it opening on focus button press?!?
Jan 03 18:10:54 <freemangordon> I can;t believe that :P
Jan 03 18:11:09 <bencoh> couldnt find it
Jan 03 18:11:33 <bencoh> and there is a kludge in I-dunno-which-package that takes care of camera-ui vs camera-ui2
Jan 03 18:11:48 <bencoh> so I guess you really cant disable it
Jan 03 18:11:49 <freemangordon> honestly, I can;t believe nokians did not implement that, but if you say so
Jan 03 18:12:03 <bencoh> dunno :)
Jan 03 18:12:58 <sec> Is there a quick config or hack I could use?
Jan 03 18:13:17 <freemangordon> not that I am aware of
Jan 03 18:13:34 <freemangordon> sec: well, you can try to install camera-ui from cssu-testing. or upgrade to cssu-testing (or thumb), it is 100% stable for everyday use
Jan 03 18:14:50 <sec> Can I upgrade on top of stable?
Jan 03 18:14:58 <sec> I've just been using this for a while and never bothered
Jan 03 18:15:12 <bencoh> /apps/camera/settings/extra-settings/disable-show-on-lenscover-open is in camera-ui2
Jan 03 18:15:23 <bencoh> according to cl-launcher it's not in stock
Jan 03 18:15:30 <sec> I also read somewhere that Stable is about to be refreshed with testing packages (tmo I think) so I could wait
Jan 03 18:15:44 <freemangordon> sec: yes, you can upgrade from stable to testing
Jan 03 18:16:05 <sec> Alright! Thanks!
Jan 03 18:16:14 <freemangordon> sec: I am not sure camera-ui will enter stable
Jan 03 18:16:22 <sec> Ah
Jan 03 18:16:24 <freemangordon> there is some politics involved here ;)
Jan 03 18:16:31 <bencoh> politics ? what about ?
Jan 03 18:16:51 <freemangordon> freedom of choice, but don't ask me more :)
Jan 03 18:16:59 <bencoh> hmmkay
Jan 03 18:17:23 <bencoh> freemangordon: have you played with mafw ?
Jan 03 18:17:38 <freemangordon> a bit, some time ago
Jan 03 18:17:52 <freemangordon> will have to do it soonish too
Jan 03 18:18:23 <bencoh> I'd like it to pass some .m3u8 directly to gstreamer instead of processing it with its playlist parser
Jan 03 18:18:35 <bencoh> (because hls uses .m3u8 files)
Jan 03 18:18:49 <bencoh> (apple twisted ideas ...)
Jan 03 18:19:53 <freemangordon> you'd better ask gidzzz@TMO ( the OMP maintainer)
Jan 03 18:20:21 <bencoh> thx
Jan 03 18:21:38 <bencoh> well from I've read of OMP source, it just uses mafw, and I couldnt get OMP to pass the .m3u8 (or rather the url) to gstreamer either, but he might know something
Jan 03 18:35:24 <Steven__> Does Maemo 5/N900 store things on the SIM card?
Jan 03 18:36:50 <Steven__> Like contacts or SMS.
Jan 03 18:37:27 <Wizzup> It is possible, afaik.
Jan 03 18:37:30 <Wizzup> You can choose
Jan 03 18:41:27 <Steven__> I am looking into dm-crypt/luks and I want to make sure that all the data is in once place (i.e. /home ).
Jan 03 18:42:01 <Steven__> So I want to prevent it from storing data on the SIM if it does it by default.
Jan 03 18:51:50 <kerio> iirc it doesn't store stuff on the sim
Jan 03 18:51:55 <kerio> you can access the contacts on the sim
Jan 03 18:51:57 <kerio> but that's it
Jan 03 18:58:25 <Steven__> kerio: That is good news. I know a lot of phones do store stuff there, but I suppose that those are mostly not smartphones.
Jan 03 19:53:15 <Vajb> Steven__: actually i found it a problem that there is no polssibility on n900 to make back up of contacts in sim...
Jan 03 19:53:57 <Vajb> freemangordon: thx. Tho i fixed that issue already :)
Jan 03 19:54:43 <Steven__> Vajb: I meant good news that it didn't do it by default. It would be nice to be able to do it manually, or turn it on in a setting.
Jan 03 19:55:22 <Steven__> Do you mean you cant move Maemo contacts onto the SIM? Or the other way around?
Jan 03 19:55:54 <Vajb> yeah i would prefer that too, but thats not gonna happen
Jan 03 19:56:11 <Vajb> n900 can't write in sim
Jan 03 19:56:19 <Steven__> Why is that?
Jan 03 19:56:28 <Vajb> dunno
Jan 03 19:56:33 <Vajb> it just reads
Jan 03 19:56:41 <bencoh> the other way around works (maemo imports contacts from the SIM)
Jan 03 19:56:57 <Steven__> You mean none of the packages do it in the default install, right?
Jan 03 19:58:07 <Steven__> The SIM's contact format is probably simpler than the N900's. I suspect that Nokia just didn't add a GUI to move stuff into the SIM because the user would have to deal with getting rid of fields in their address book.
Jan 03 19:58:58 <Vajb> btw maybe someone knows why my device keeps on rebooting even tho i have rd mode enabled + wd flags too
Jan 03 19:59:38 <bencoh> Steven__: that's what I think as well
Jan 03 20:00:31 <bencoh> Steven__: there is a way to talk to the modem using AT commands iirc, you could then try to access the contact storage (if the proper AT commands are implemented)
Jan 03 20:00:41 <bencoh> (yeah, that's far-fetched)
Jan 03 20:04:29 <Steven__> bencoh: I think Nokia used their own modem protocol rather than AT commands. At least, the kernel driver was written from reverse engineered info and not from AT commands.
Jan 03 20:04:38 <bencoh> yeah, isi
Jan 03 20:04:54 <bencoh> (hsi/isi)
Jan 03 20:05:11 <Steven__> Isn't the SIM separate from the modem, though?
Jan 03 20:05:41 <bencoh> well you could read the isi driver but I'm not sure you'd find the info
Jan 03 20:05:57 <bencoh> hmm, that would be surprising
Jan 03 20:07:08 <Pali> there is nokia program pnatd which emulates AT modem terminal and communicate with n900 modem
Jan 03 20:07:32 <Pali> not all AT commands are implemented, but some useful subset are
Jan 03 20:07:42 <Pali> e.g. USSD codes are working
Jan 03 20:08:07 <Pali> and before PR1.3 this was only way how to use USSD codes on n900
Jan 03 20:08:19 <bencoh> yeah I was talking about pnatd
Jan 03 20:08:30 <Steven__> bencoh: nevermind, the schematic shows that the SIM slot is conncted to Gazoo, which is the modem companion chip.
Jan 03 20:31:05 * RzR http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94318# Have you voted for Maemo Council ? if not it's now or never
Jan 03 23:40:19 <bencoh> hmm ... can you guys install something from downloads.maemo.nokia.com ?
Jan 03 23:40:35 <bencoh> I cannot apt-get install --reinstall gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad for instance
Jan 04 00:41:11 <Steven__> Is there a nice way to get files out of the N900 firmware images? I can extract a bunch of images from the combined binary, but when I use fdisk on them they are not recognized as being formatted.
Jan 04 00:41:46 <Humpelstilzchen> what does parted say?
Jan 04 00:42:00 <Steven__> Let me see.
Jan 04 00:44:35 <Steven__> Hmm, not sure if I am doing this right.
Jan 04 00:45:24 <Humpelstilzchen> parted image_file
Jan 04 00:45:25 <Humpelstilzchen> unit b
Jan 04 00:45:26 <Humpelstilzchen> p
Jan 04 00:46:38 <Steven__> It doesn't seem to like not being given a block device.
Jan 04 00:46:49 <Humpelstilzchen> what have you downloaded?
Jan 04 00:47:15 <kerio> you need a mtd emulator
Jan 04 00:47:16 <Steven__> Ah, here we go.
Jan 04 00:47:37 <Steven__> Just says unrecognized disk label. Similar to fdisk.
Jan 04 00:47:52 <Steven__> kerio: Okay, so they arent just images?
Jan 04 00:48:10 <kerio> they are
Jan 04 00:48:28 <kerio> well, it is
Jan 04 00:48:40 <kerio> but i don't know of any other way to mount it
Jan 04 00:49:22 <Steven__> There is this one file "rootfs.jffs2", are they all jffs2 files?
Jan 04 00:49:43 <Steven__> The others don't have extensions and they are not recognized by magic number.
Jan 04 00:49:52 <kerio> it's not jffs2
Jan 04 00:49:57 <kerio> it's ubi+ubifs
Jan 04 00:52:01 <Steven__> So no nice "mount -o loop -t ubifs foobin /mnt"? =(
Jan 04 00:52:44 <kerio> more like modprobe something && nandwrite && ubi_ctl && mountg
Jan 04 00:52:47 <kerio> *mount
Jan 04 00:57:46 <Steven__> kerio: Thanks! with the keyword you gave me I was able to find http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=403015&postcount=3
Jan 04 01:02:06 <Steven__> Phew! A rather complex procedure for just mounting an image. I got it working though.
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