**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 12 02:59:59 2015 Jan 12 13:03:46 Jesuischarlie Jan 12 13:03:57 !fiasco Jan 12 13:04:30 !emmc Jan 12 13:04:36 !maemo Jan 12 13:04:40 >< Jan 12 13:04:45 !help Jan 12 13:04:50 !flasher Jan 12 13:05:02 okey , i will go google ;) Jan 12 13:05:15 that could be for the best Jan 12 13:05:17 ~flashing Jan 12 13:05:17 it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do ./flash-it-all.sh Jan 12 13:11:12 thx you :) Jan 12 13:12:20 i just find little french tuto , i will try with this . (nokia n900 , i have firmware and EMMC ) Jan 12 13:14:00 do you want to save what's on the n900 right now? Jan 12 13:16:51 i was installed application from store , for use $bash , and after i never want start again ... Jan 12 13:17:02 i was flash him one time Jan 12 13:17:10 but not yesterday -__- Jan 12 15:41:23 Hi Jan 12 15:41:57 i will try to flash my nokia N900 , but flasher have problem when i plug my phone for emmc Jan 12 15:42:35 it told me : " ERROR: APE algorithm has to be provided to flash all the subimages Jan 12 15:44:33 Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0 Jan 12 15:44:33 Image SW version Jan 12 15:44:41 what i sImage SW ?! Jan 12 15:47:15 did you follow the wiki instructions ? Jan 12 15:59:15 not very difficult , put : $flasher -F RX######PR_EMMC.bin -f -R , and down phone , plug it with "u" key , and i have error , not emmc install Jan 12 16:02:07 (that was a quote from http://wiki.maemo.org/Reflash) Jan 12 16:02:30 I dunno in which state your nand/mmc is Jan 12 16:02:47 btw where/when do you get the APE error ? Jan 12 16:06:46 i will go translate your think bencoh , i not understand :( Jan 12 16:08:07 okok Jan 12 16:10:37 i was flash before my n900 , and no problem . after few month , i try to use bash script and i was download application from extra-devel . and it work , but after 1/2 week without used it , i try to start it and that don't go after start video . Jan 12 16:10:46 so i try to flash him again Jan 12 16:15:55 okey Jan 12 16:16:16 it's problem with my flasher , version 3.12 :) Jan 12 16:16:46 :) Jan 12 16:17:03 now i need to find how uninstall him lol Jan 12 16:17:37 apt-get --help Jan 12 16:17:44 oops :p Jan 12 16:19:38 ~flasher Jan 12 16:19:39 flasher is, like, at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jan 12 16:32:27 Booting device into flash mode. Jan 12 16:32:31 Suitable USB device not found, waiting. Jan 12 16:32:36 :( Jan 12 16:33:14 and 2 sec before it told me USB device found found at bus 001 , device adress 012 Jan 12 16:33:23 that smelt hard :( Jan 12 16:35:35 i fear :( Jan 12 16:35:45 to never be use my n900 Jan 12 16:50:20 so you have flasher 3.5 now? Jan 12 16:52:17 TsutomuShimomura: free kevin! Jan 12 16:52:27 ! Jan 12 16:52:41 I'm tracking him right now! Jan 12 17:01:28 So I'm thinking about starting an n900 bitcoin mining pool. Jan 12 17:02:27 brilliant idea Jan 12 17:02:34 -_- Jan 12 17:03:06 does the blockchain even fit on a n900 Jan 12 17:03:22 Yes, it can Jan 12 17:03:54 It's not 2009 sadly, so no coins even if you tried forever Jan 12 17:04:21 maybe you'll get lucky! Jan 12 17:04:29 krkr Jan 12 17:04:40 CapsulisCharlie: so, how did it go ? Jan 12 17:04:47 ...actually Jan 12 17:04:50 how often are blocks mined? Jan 12 17:05:31 10 minutes Jan 12 17:06:13 how many hashings can the n900 do in 10 minutes? Jan 12 17:07:59 2? Jan 12 17:08:00 =) Jan 12 17:08:05 Hah, I couldn't say, but pretty insignificant I would assume Jan 12 17:08:05 We can do it gents!?! Jan 12 17:08:21 If we pool all the world's n900 resources together, we can become the 51%!@ Jan 12 17:09:24 Jesus, here, look at the search results - https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+mine+hashes+n900 Jan 12 17:09:32 Spam, all of it clickbait Jan 12 17:09:52 Probably running a shitload of exploits in the background as well Jan 12 17:10:15 :] Jan 12 17:57:39 hi..does n900 power kernel contains fuse.ko? Jan 12 18:01:40 yes Jan 12 18:33:53 ~tabletsdev Jan 12 18:33:54 it has been said that tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads Jan 12 18:55:50 scratchbox has fuse ?? Jan 12 18:56:26 i could not find it ( python-fuse setup ) Jan 12 19:08:26 newbieAlert: I dont see python-fuse in extras Jan 12 19:22:59 Tor too old to be usable :/ Jan 12 19:23:33 sec: maemo is OLD AS FUCK Jan 12 19:23:42 it's like three debian stables ago, or something Jan 12 19:24:03 tor applet does need updating Jan 12 19:24:42 Yeah I know kerio, I feel like venting my sadness in the channel every time I encounter an old as fuck package. My apologies. Jan 12 19:25:47 What's neo900 going to run? I haven't kept up to date with its progress.. Jan 12 19:25:59 I know they were trying to port maemo over or something Jan 12 19:27:17 sec: i tried saying "surely the maemo port for the neo900 will at least get rid of the /sbin/preinit bullshit" Jan 12 19:27:40 the answer was 'well we'll have to keep the "api" there for bootmenu and the like' Jan 12 19:29:12 Lol, I can't understand why they want to use maemo, surely there have to be better alternatives even if it involves in house development, the effort can't be more than the work it'll take to port maemo over Jan 12 19:29:55 newbieAlert: what are you trying to do? Jan 12 19:31:19 sec: it's actually an insane amount of effort not to use maemo Jan 12 19:31:22 that's why we use maemo Jan 12 19:31:37 it's literally the reason you're using maemo right now, instead of a distro you made yourself Jan 12 19:33:38 Hm, I wouldn't know, but I suppose the rate at which mainline linux is getting n900 support included, maemo is probably the easiest option for the N900. I can't say for the neo900 .. Jan 12 19:34:30 i have to say, at this point extras-devel is much less of a resource to me Jan 12 19:36:36 I would love to have pure Debian on this thing though Jan 12 19:36:46 But that'll never happen Jan 12 19:37:27 freemangordon: how much is supported by mainline linux? Jan 12 19:37:57 http://elinux.org/N900 Jan 12 19:38:09 http://elinux.org/N900 Jan 12 19:39:45 Also, my GPS never seems to work .. ever.. is there a way to check if this is a hardware or a software fault? Jan 12 19:39:59 I have flashed a few times, never has worked Jan 12 19:41:01 location-test-gui would be a good start Jan 12 19:41:02 what's your agps server? Jan 12 19:41:19 or gpsrecorder Jan 12 19:41:45 does gpsrecorder allow you to cycle through all the different GPS modes? Jan 12 19:41:55 no Jan 12 19:41:59 I've tried both Nokia and Google supl servers Jan 12 19:42:07 Let me try gpsrecorder and location-test-gui Jan 12 19:42:15 if you have a recent enough cssu, you should use supl.nokia.com Jan 12 19:42:20 supl.google.com doesn't work anymore Jan 12 19:42:27 I am running stable sadly Jan 12 19:42:31 ...why Jan 12 19:42:38 you're capable of opening an irc client Jan 12 19:42:45 Lol Jan 12 19:42:57 even on stable you can get the gps/certman update Jan 12 19:43:06 I was running Testing, but it was horribly laggy Jan 12 19:43:52 Thumb even more so surprisingly Jan 12 19:46:02 Alright, GPS Recorder is on "Stopped, Acquiring" 0/12 satellites Jan 12 19:46:06 I'll give it a few minutes Jan 12 19:46:18 minutes? what Jan 12 19:46:24 i get a fix in 7 blinks of the gps icon Jan 12 19:46:25 To get a lock Jan 12 19:46:27 :/ Jan 12 19:46:38 I left it on the window a whole night once Jan 12 19:56:27 Funny, the lock icon stops blinking as soon as I start gpsdata (two or three ticks) but the status says GPS isn't locked yet Jan 12 19:58:26 I'll test this outside later. bbl Jan 12 23:52:13 Hm. So there are actually four LEDs in the LED spot? Jan 12 23:52:50 When it pulsates orange while it's charging normally, is that the RGB LEDs, or the apparently separate charging one? Jan 12 23:59:02 Not sure. http://wiki.maemo.org/LED_patterns#N900 http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_LED Jan 13 00:13:26 four? Three I guess ;) Jan 13 00:13:30 Red, Green and Blue Jan 13 00:13:58 You can even change the LED patterns with a cool program. I used it to change the messages/IM/calls, different colors to each one, etc Jan 13 00:26:05 But https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_BME says the bq24150a hardware uses a "hardwired steady yellow indicator LED" Jan 13 00:27:41 Maybe, they hard-wired connection from bq24150a to one-out-of-three yellow LED? So that the LED would work, even if the boot fails completely? Jan 13 00:28:16 Ah, you mean that the LEDs would then be Red, Green, and Yellow, not Blue? Jan 13 00:28:17 it would be the red and green LEDs. Jan 13 00:32:37 hmm ... is the "normal" case maemo is booted to charge, afaik Jan 13 00:33:10 (at least kernel is ... and prolly some userland as well ... I know next to nothing about the preinit stuff) Jan 13 01:52:38 bencoh: normal as in when the BME is allowing it to charge. Jan 13 01:53:43 the article and the behaviour I see seem to indicate that it charges in a different mode with just the kernel module, no userland stuff. Jan 13 01:54:50 (where, according to the article, the orange/yellow LED is hardwired to the charger hardware) Jan 13 01:58:28 it is definitely controlled using the lp5523 thing normally (pulsating, only happens when screen is off) Jan 13 02:03:14 I suspect that hardwiring thing has to do with the momentary, dim glow when plugging a power source in. Jan 13 02:05:42 Mk, http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/n900/n900-2014112500 seems to indicate that it's just using the same LEDs. Jan 13 02:06:00 but does show that it has its own direct link to them. Jan 13 02:13:48 Sicelo : gdata python can be installed as only dependency it has is python2.5 and python fuse requires fuse2.6 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 13 02:59:59 2015