**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 03:00:00 2015 Jan 15 03:03:26 how to compile library in scratchbox ?? how do i nknow the entries for debian/control ???? Jan 15 03:09:16 newbieAlert: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Package_Building_HOWTO Jan 15 03:31:02 totalizator: thanks :) but it does not have anything about how to write debian/control for libraries. Jan 15 04:20:45 !crosscompile Jan 15 04:21:21 !flasher Jan 15 04:21:25 newbieAlert: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html Jan 15 04:22:56 `ping Jan 15 04:26:48 ~flasher Jan 15 04:26:49 i heard flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Jan 15 04:27:00 ~crosscompile Jan 15 04:27:27 ~cross-compile Jan 15 04:27:29 ~compile Jan 15 04:27:30 tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package Jan 15 04:27:41 ~ping Jan 15 04:27:47 ~pong Jan 15 04:37:28 Oksana: thanks forgot which one symbol used almost alll chans have diff ones;/ Jan 15 04:38:15 Yes. /msg seems to work without the symbol, though. But, can /msg be used to ask bot to tell you what symbol does it use? Jan 15 05:24:58 anyone knowing why I might not be able to boot the 3.18-rc6 kernel from here? git://gitorious.org/linux-n900/linux-n900.git Jan 15 05:25:22 I'm using and selecting it via u-boot and the kernel seems to boot initially Jan 15 05:26:20 but the n900 hangs and reboots after a line "random: sshd urandom read with [...]", then gets random, colourful gibberish on the screen and then gets black Jan 15 05:26:28 then reboots a few seconds later Jan 15 05:28:44 Not a clue. http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/kernel-build-reports/2014-July/004586.html Jan 15 09:02:58 T_X: are you trying to boot maemo with this kernel ? Jan 15 09:15:50 * Maxdamantus is about to try that kernel. Jan 15 09:16:14 btw, the SD card works with the cover off, in case anyone's unaware. Jan 15 09:16:29 (just need to stop the kernel from blocking access) Jan 15 09:17:41 Hmm .. what's the actual point of blocking it? Jan 15 09:19:17 I don't think the block actually does anything special with the hardware. Jan 15 09:19:46 so I don't think it would avoid cycling the SD card's power. Jan 15 09:20:04 Maxdamantus: prevent writes while it is being physically removed Jan 15 09:20:06 I'd hope if that were an issue there'd be a cooldown or something somewhere. Jan 15 09:20:33 but it being in kernel is a bit silly (without a sysfs option) Jan 15 09:20:59 Hm. Assuming the writeback cache is small. Jan 15 09:21:46 so it actually does continue to write from the cache after you remove the cover? Jan 15 09:21:56 or do you mean within the SD card itself? Jan 15 09:22:18 * Maxdamantus suspects that shouldn't be a problem with the SD card itself. Jan 15 11:43:49 Hm. How do you turn the backlight on if it's not on at boot (without maemo)? Jan 15 11:44:31 I'd guess there's a proc or sysfs entry for that Jan 15 11:44:59 Try find /proc /sys -name '*backlight*' Jan 15 11:45:40 Mm, it doesn't seem to turn on the way you toggle it when it's working. Jan 15 11:45:55 Do other people get that btw? Jan 15 11:46:16 it doesn't seem to turn on when using flasher to book a kernel. Jan 15 11:46:24 boot* Jan 15 12:46:07 bencoh: yep, trying to boot that kernel Jan 15 12:46:20 trying to boot maemo with CSSU, right Jan 15 12:46:39 Oksana: right, these are the last few lines I'm seeeing on the screen Jan 15 12:49:20 * T_X going to add a few more modules as built-in into the zImage. I have /lib/modules/3.18-rc-6 on /opt because the root partition doesn't have enough space Jan 15 12:53:37 I guess you could lsmod on maemo on copy those in your root Jan 15 12:53:42 s/on/and/ Jan 15 12:53:42 bencoh meant: I guess you could lsmod and maemo on copy those in your root Jan 15 12:53:52 infobot: bleh Jan 15 12:53:52 bleh means insert appropriate value here. see blah Jan 15 13:01:47 bencoh: you mean only making the modules kernel-built-in which are actually loaded after a normal maemo boot? Jan 15 13:02:26 copying them, actually Jan 15 13:02:35 Hi.. how do i get "make" command on n900?? build-essential is not present. :/ Jan 15 13:02:44 but you could also build those in as well Jan 15 13:03:19 bencoh: copying the modules from the old 2.6.28 kernel won't work. I have a modules directory with the linux-n900 repo Jan 15 13:03:24 but unfortunately it's too big Jan 15 13:03:27 ~160MB Jan 15 13:03:49 while /lib/modules, the ubifs only has ~70MB available Jan 15 13:04:00 T_X: copying modules from the new kernel, but only those loaded by maemo Jan 15 13:04:10 ah, okay! Jan 15 13:04:27 could work, going to check Jan 15 13:04:33 thx! Jan 15 13:05:55 Or is it possible to enable SDK repo on n900 and get "make" from there ?? Jan 15 14:03:29 newbieAlert: why would you do that? Jan 15 14:05:09 download Lubuntu 14.04 iso and install it in Virtualbox: ~10 min, install M5 SDK ~10 min Jan 15 14:21:27 what do you want to build? Jan 15 14:32:47 does xplanet requires additional data? Jan 15 14:33:17 since it said couldnt find moon etc Jan 15 14:35:18 newbieAlert: ask sec once he's around Jan 15 14:43:00 newbieAlert: make should be in extras Jan 15 15:24:14 hm, making a lot of the modules built-in didn't help either Jan 15 17:57:17 chem|st: make is not in extras (build-essential ) Jan 15 17:58:00 bencoh: i have started a thread om TMO. no replies so far. Jan 15 17:58:31 totalizator: tmo thread for packaging has all the details.. Jan 15 18:00:28 totalizator: bencoh:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94466 Jan 15 18:13:17 sec : hi Jan 15 18:13:33 sec : helpp with packaging libraries ??? Jan 15 18:16:20 newbieAlert: I thought you wanted to build on the n900 Jan 15 18:22:00 newbieAlert: http://maemo.org/packages/view/make-3.81/ Jan 15 18:22:54 and you could also install that from the sdk-repo that is 3.80 Jan 15 18:24:35 newbieAlert: build-essential actually depends on make Jan 15 18:25:18 bencoh: i want to build it for n900. its working in scratchbox but i am not able to pack it in deb to transfer it to n900.. Jan 15 18:25:53 chem|st: thanks.. optified ?? Jan 15 18:26:04 no idea Jan 15 18:26:18 chem|st: trying... :) Jan 15 18:26:46 newbieAlert: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging Jan 15 18:27:31 newbieAlert: if you are looking for packages, they are all listed on maemo.org/packages Jan 15 18:27:34 depending on what you are trying to package you might need more or less work Jan 15 18:28:16 bencoh: i went through that.. i have issues with packaging libraries.. specifically writing debian/control. i am not able to figure out how to write the name of packages like : libX.a and a few other things symlinked to same library. Jan 15 18:28:19 (if it's already packaged for debian you'd only need to adapt the debian/rules) Jan 15 18:28:22 bencoh: if you are not used to .deb... I found in quiet hard to package stuff Jan 15 18:28:35 newbieAlert: oh, ok Jan 15 18:29:10 bencoh: single binary thing is easy , multibinary hing, i just figured out .. but libraries, still out of my scope.. Jan 15 18:29:11 debian has .install files to tell dpkg-buildpackage which files goes in which specific package Jan 15 18:30:04 you should apt-get source some-package to see how it's done Jan 15 18:30:30 (as an example) Jan 15 18:32:35 bencoh: yeah.. thanks.. but thats not the issue.. issue is how will i know the output of the source package after compilation .. line i want to coompile X.tar.gz, then how ill i know what will i produce , like it may libX.a or libX.so or maybe 5 different libXYZ.. Jan 15 18:32:55 chem|st: naah, make install wont work on n900... requires autottols .. Jan 15 18:33:00 *autotools Jan 15 18:34:56 newbieAlert: what do you mean by "how will I know" ? Jan 15 18:34:56 newbieAlert: you wont be done by just installing "make"! Jan 15 18:35:43 you wont know unless you try, or read the build system (or a mix of the two) :) Jan 15 18:35:51 bencoh: i mean lets say , i need to compile GTK.. then "where" can i find, how many packages & what packages will it produce ?? Jan 15 18:36:28 bencoh: thats what i amtrying :) :) Jan 15 18:36:33 I'd DESTDIR=/foo/bar make install && tree -C /foo/bar first :) Jan 15 18:36:48 chem|st: nope. it didnot work.. requires automake, depends on autotools-dev. Jan 15 18:37:09 debian has some "default" packages that are described in dpkg/debutils and/or debian packaging docs Jan 15 18:37:28 (-dev, -dbg, maybe -shlibs, and a few others) Jan 15 18:37:54 bencoh: thats what i did :) then in libraries, the symlink thing. :/ produces two packages and two symlinks to same package with sdifferent name .. like 1. libX.so.0 & symlink libX.so.1 Jan 15 18:38:21 bencoh: thanks...going through sources now.. Jan 15 18:38:56 oh and, read man dpkg-deb (to check .deb afterwards) Jan 15 18:40:49 bencoh: okay :) :) thanks for help.. i think i will just write steps for multiple-binary in tmo... :) btw, will it work if i simply copy paste the libs folder to /sur in n900. (libs : produced by make install ) ?? Jan 15 18:45:44 someone called? Jan 15 19:17:56 sec: yeah.. i did.. i was suggested to ask you my problems regarding packaging. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 22:43:37 2015 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 22:48:32 2015 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 23:02:32 2015 Jan 15 23:23:10 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Jan 16 01:04:14 hi guys.... so far do any of you still using n900 or n8xx ? Jan 16 01:15:49 tiiooo: Yes, N900 as daily phone, computer, PDA, ssh client... Jan 16 01:17:18 Thinking of getting Nokia N810 with WiMax, just for the sake of showing off very old 4G-compatible phone ;-) And beta-testing the software on Diablo, too. Jan 16 02:30:14 tiiooo: answer to your question - http://imgur.com/X03JdV9 Jan 16 02:39:12 allright .. so that im not just the only "unfashionable" here Jan 16 02:40:05 I would grab n810 wimax too - cool gizmo Jan 16 02:41:05 but i mean do you guys any particular reason using this n series maemo phone .... i mean that perhaps have some truly strength over present smphone Jan 16 02:45:26 fm transmitter, camera, KEYBOAD Jan 16 02:45:45 yawn :O time to get some sleep Jan 16 02:45:48 & **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 16 02:59:58 2015