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Jan 20 04:42:35 <Vajb> i have another question about mplayer. Maybe someone knows how to enable volume rocker for mplayer while screen is locked?
Jan 20 04:43:03 <Vajb> mplayer in terminal if that matters...
Jan 20 05:32:10 <Sicelo> i wonder .. the thing is volume keys seem to be hard-coded for font resizing
Jan 20 05:40:18 <Vajb> yep.... thats why i asked
Jan 20 05:40:59 <Vajb> hmm another thought came to mind. Is there a way to change omp cache size?
Jan 20 09:05:57 <bencoh> Vajb: I think you'd need to patch osso-xterm
Jan 20 09:55:12 <Vajb> bencoh: i was thinking about running mplayer in -slave mode to see if it could work that way, but didn't test it yet
Jan 20 09:56:53 <Vajb> but if there is a way to unlock volume key when desktop is shown i guess that should be enough too.
Jan 20 09:57:38 <Vajb> meaning that mplayer is running background
Jan 20 09:58:55 <joga> you use it to play audio?
Jan 20 09:59:30 <joga> I had a feeling the vol keys would work when locked but apparently it was some android tablet that worked like that
Jan 20 10:00:07 <joga> if I need to adjust volume when having a terminal on the foreground I just flick the camera key (to start task switcher) and then adjust the volume
Jan 20 10:01:06 <joga> ah, no, it does work like that... if using the media player 
Jan 20 10:04:14 <bencoh> Vajb: do you want to pass the vol+/- to mplayer or just adjust system volume ?
Jan 20 10:33:16 <Vajb> i just want to be able to adjust volume while screen is locked. Or rather to be able to choose when it is locked and when not.
Jan 20 10:49:37 <joga> heh... make media player play a silent .wav on repeat
Jan 20 10:50:00 <joga> seems it needs to be playing something for the volume to change
Jan 20 10:59:23 <bencoh> Vajb: what do you use mplayer for btw ?
Jan 20 11:07:50 <Vajb> bencoh: i stream radio. And reason why i use mplayer is that i want to be able to pause broadcast when there is coffee break at work.
Jan 20 11:08:16 <bencoh> hence the omp cache question ?
Jan 20 11:08:27 <Vajb> mplayer allows me to set cache big enough to allow break
Jan 20 11:08:29 <Vajb> yes
Jan 20 11:08:58 <Vajb> hence the question about mplayer cache file location two days ago
Jan 20 11:09:51 <Vajb> i could use dumpsteam but problem is that is stops playing at the end of file rather than updating file length at fly.
Jan 20 11:14:14 <bencoh> yeah
Jan 20 11:14:25 <bencoh> well, you could also dump to a fifo
Jan 20 11:14:30 <bencoh> and read the fifo
Jan 20 11:14:43 <bencoh> but that's ugly
Jan 20 11:56:02 <Maxdamantus> Yay. Can take the back cover off while running Maemo and still use the SD card.
Jan 20 13:01:31 <totalizator> bencoh: well, I have no clue how to fix feh so feel free to patch it / upload
Jan 20 13:03:26 <bencoh> totalizator: setting WM_HINTS doesnt help ?
Jan 20 16:51:38 <totalizator> bencoh: it should but I don't speak C unfortunately :3 and the code is a bit different from your example so I don't know where to apply this
Jan 20 16:52:33 <bencoh> 'mkay I'll see what I can do
Jan 20 16:54:46 <bencoh> it should probably go in http://git.finalrewind.org/feh/tree/src/winwidget.c in winwidget_create_window
Jan 20 17:11:11 <totalizator> tried that
Jan 20 17:12:34 <totalizator> in many ekhem, ugly ways - none worked
Jan 20 17:17:38 <totalizator> time to learn to code, seriously this thime
Jan 20 18:55:02 <antranigv> ~usbfix
Jan 20 18:55:02 <infobot> i guess usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt
Jan 20 19:06:31 <antranigv> anyone ever tried  to fix their own N900 ? the USB port I mean
Jan 20 19:07:20 <stryngs> yep
Jan 20 19:07:23 <stryngs> solder+luck
Jan 20 19:09:12 <antranigv> stryngs: any good post or video for that ? :) I have time and (that gadget to open the device), I just want to reflash :-/
Jan 20 19:09:18 <bencoh> totalizator: would you please send me your debian/ for feh ?
Jan 20 19:09:45 <bencoh> (for fremantle)
Jan 20 19:09:47 <stryngs> i did it by trial and error
Jan 20 19:09:51 <stryngs> open and play =)
Jan 20 19:09:55 <stryngs> what else ya gunna do
Jan 20 19:38:23 <antranigv> dear users who ever dessembled the N900, that keyboard-screen cable, how can I deattach it ?
Jan 20 19:51:39 <RiD> carefully, lol
Jan 20 19:51:54 <RiD> putting it is harder
Jan 20 19:54:50 <antranigv> RiD: I just opened, ahh
Jan 20 19:54:56 <antranigv> now, I'll test the USB
Jan 20 19:55:05 <antranigv> I don't have another one :-/
Jan 20 19:56:10 <RiD> N900?
Jan 20 19:56:21 <RiD> I do. Broken USB though LOL
Jan 20 19:56:58 <antranigv> well, lsusb didn't find anything, :(
Jan 20 19:57:06 <antranigv> I want my phone back :'(
Jan 20 19:57:12 <antranigv> RiD: any ideas ?
Jan 20 19:57:21 <RiD> did you solder it back in the same place
Jan 20 19:57:34 <RiD> or did you create an alternative connection using the back "dots"?
Jan 20 19:57:43 <antranigv> solder ? that thing with heat ? nop :P
Jan 20 19:57:57 <RiD> oh what did you do then? lol
Jan 20 19:58:08 <antranigv> just diassamble :D
Jan 20 19:58:11 <RiD> oh
Jan 20 19:58:20 <antranigv> now I'm thinking what to do
Jan 20 19:58:30 <RiD> well, if you just want to reflash i think the back dots might be easier to deal with
Jan 20 19:58:43 <antranigv> RiD: back dots ??
Jan 20 19:58:49 <RiD> yeah im sorry its not the best explanation... hold on
Jan 20 19:59:03 <antranigv> hehe :D this made my day
Jan 20 20:03:00 <antranigv> If I can reflash it, at least I can use it, and charge it with a universal charger :) I have 5 batteries :P
Jan 20 20:03:13 <RiD> i have 3, but they're far from their original capacity
Jan 20 20:03:48 <RiD> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71414
Jan 20 20:04:29 <RiD> but dont trust the first posts, i think the scheme was wrong. 
Jan 20 20:10:08 <antranigv> RiD: so it is possible ? just by tuching the cables ? o.O
Jan 20 20:11:42 <RiD> yep, as long as they're in the right places
Jan 20 20:11:55 <RiD> PM Estel for example, he knows much more than I do
Jan 20 20:12:01 <RiD> he'll guide you to the right direction :3
Jan 20 20:12:45 <antranigv> RiD: thanks !!
Jan 20 20:15:08 <RiD> if all you want is reflash, i guess that is a much easier option :P
Jan 20 21:06:24 <antranigv> RiD: back, now, let's continue, :P
Jan 20 21:11:13 <RiD> i can't help you more than that :v
Jan 20 21:12:06 <antranigv> anyway, I'll burn one of my cables now :P
Jan 20 21:17:48 <APic> HF
Jan 20 21:17:51 <APic> Enjoy.
Jan 20 21:27:52 <APic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5JA8Ytk9EI&list=PL1474DAB09C40D3BA&index=111
Jan 20 21:31:57 <Maxdamantus> antranigv: I'd suggest flashing uBoot, so you don't have to do it again.
Jan 20 21:32:24 <antranigv> Maxdamantus: any posts for that ? (new here (:)
Jan 20 21:32:43 <Maxdamantus> Then you can boot something like that recovery image off the SD card if the OS fails.
Jan 20 21:36:55 <Maxdamantus> Hm. There's http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613
Jan 20 21:40:00 <Maxdamantus> if you're using the standard kernel, you should be able to find the image somewhere in those packages and flash it as a kernel using flasher.
Jan 20 21:41:34 * Maxdamantus is sceptical about installing kernels through package managers.
Jan 20 21:43:35 <APic> *g*
Jan 20 21:59:51 <antranigv> Maxdamantus: I'll try that too!
Jan 20 22:00:15 <antranigv> any idea if I can reflash it without connecting it with that heat thing ? :D
Jan 20 22:00:57 <antranigv> soldering! that's the word! :D
Jan 20 22:02:30 <Maxdamantus> Why do you actually need to reflash?
Jan 20 22:02:58 <antranigv> Maxdamantus: I have broken busybox :( I'm stuck in a booting loop
Jan 20 22:09:45 <kerio> rip
Jan 20 22:09:54 <kerio> do you have uboot installed?
Jan 20 22:12:05 * Maxdamantus guesses not.
Jan 20 22:13:19 <Maxdamantus> (if you do, you'll probably see a picture of tux as you turn it on)
Jan 20 22:13:25 <Maxdamantus> (the Linux penguin)
Jan 20 22:14:18 <antranigv> nop :(
Jan 20 22:16:17 <Maxdamantus> I suspect the easiest thing to do is attach the USB to the back using http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71414 (as mentioned before)
Jan 20 22:17:08 <Maxdamantus> then just flash uBoot, because it won't take long (if you have to hold the device while it's attached it shouldn't be inconvenient)
Jan 20 22:17:34 <Maxdamantus> then load rescueOS off an SD card: http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/
Jan 20 22:17:40 <kerio> does it actually work
Jan 20 22:17:45 <Maxdamantus> Dunno.
Jan 20 22:17:52 <kerio> i thought the pads below the battery were rapuyama's usb
Jan 20 22:19:02 <Maxdamantus> Ah.
Jan 20 22:19:56 <Maxdamantus> Well, supposedly some of them should make up a serial port, which you supposedly can flash with.
Jan 20 22:20:11 <antranigv> so I'm thinking to cut one of my USB cables, and "touch" them to the device from that dots, (I have it deassambled now), and then reflash it, (I have the images) and then flash uBoot for the future :)
Jan 20 22:22:59 <Maxdamantus> It looks like that won't work because of what kerio said.
Jan 20 22:23:04 <kerio> i dunno
Jan 20 22:23:13 <kerio> maybe there's two sets of pads?
Jan 20 22:24:48 <Maxdamantus> How did you break busybox btw?
Jan 20 22:25:18 <antranigv> Maxdamantus: changed the default ash to bash :)
Jan 20 22:25:41 <Maxdamantus> Heh.
Jan 20 22:26:10 <Maxdamantus> did you already know the USB port was broken?
Jan 20 22:26:11 <antranigv> I'm looking forward to buy neo900 or a new N900 (if I find one).
Jan 20 22:26:26 <antranigv> Maxdamantus: yupp, I bought it second hand :P
Jan 20 22:26:45 <antranigv> for like 50$
Jan 20 22:26:53 <antranigv> no one is fixing it >_<
Jan 20 22:27:46 <Maxdamantus> I would've looked into being able to running kernels from the SD card ASAP in that situation. :\
Jan 20 22:27:52 <Maxdamantus> run*
Jan 20 22:29:32 <antranigv> btw, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1001306&postcount=13
Jan 20 22:29:38 <antranigv> so it's possible
Jan 20 22:30:07 <Maxdamantus> Ah, hm.
Jan 20 22:30:09 <kerio> neat
Jan 20 22:30:20 <kerio> mh, can't you get something 3d-printed for that
Jan 20 22:30:41 <kerio> a piece of plastic to shove wires in
Jan 20 22:30:56 <antranigv> shove ? define shove ?
Jan 20 22:32:06 <kerio> well how are you going to hold the wires in place?
Jan 20 22:32:41 <antranigv> I dnno :-/ I'll connect them with heat
Jan 20 22:32:50 <antranigv> I'll put a knife on fire :P
Jan 20 22:32:55 <antranigv> then then touch em all
Jan 20 22:33:03 <Maxdamantus> that's not how soldering works.
Jan 20 22:33:11 <antranigv> it used to work with gold back in Syria :P
Jan 20 22:33:26 <Maxdamantus> yeah, with a really hot fire.
Jan 20 22:33:42 <Maxdamantus> probably easier to find a soldering iron.
Jan 20 22:33:48 <antranigv> :D
Jan 20 22:34:22 <antranigv> I'll check out the market tomorrow, until then, I'll try just by touch and holding with lot's of stickers
Jan 20 22:34:26 * antranigv feeling stupid
Jan 20 22:35:33 <Maxdamantus> I think it could work with tape.
Jan 20 22:35:54 <antranigv> tape! I have lots of em! I'll give it a shot! ^^
Jan 20 22:36:02 <Maxdamantus> preferably clear tape.
Jan 20 22:36:03 <antranigv> since it's all deassambled now
Jan 20 22:36:22 <Maxdamantus> it doesn't really need to be disassembled.
Jan 20 22:37:13 <antranigv> it's just easier to work
Jan 20 22:39:24 <antranigv> ouch! my hand
Jan 20 22:50:50 <Maxdamantus> Mm, it probably would actually be easiest to flash using just the motherboard.
Jan 20 22:51:15 <Maxdamantus> I don't think the screen needs to be connected.
Jan 20 22:55:08 <antranigv> Maxdamantus: yup yupp
Jan 20 22:55:14 <antranigv> here we give a try
Jan 20 22:58:50 <Maxdamantus> imo don't flash the whole OS.
Jan 20 22:59:40 <Maxdamantus> do you know if you've installed CSSU or kernel-power? not sure if CSSU necessarily comes with that kernel.
Jan 20 23:00:01 <Maxdamantus> meh, either way you should be able to just use a uBoot image from that post.
Jan 20 23:02:00 <antranigv> no CSSU and now power-Kernel :)
Jan 20 23:02:48 <Maxdamantus> It would've been fine even if you did use them, since the kernel modules for 2.6.28-omap1 should still be there.
Jan 20 23:03:14 <Maxdamantus> although there is a `current` symlink .. not sure what that's for.
Jan 20 23:18:13 <bencoh> instead of flashing uboot you can try and load it first
Jan 20 23:18:47 <bencoh> to test your usb ""link""
Jan 20 23:20:56 <Maxdamantus> if the screen is connected.
Jan 20 23:22:59 <bencoh> hm right
Jan 20 23:23:56 <Maxdamantus> would it actually be worth testing that anyway?
Jan 20 23:24:33 <APic> Yes.
Jan 20 23:24:35 <APic> Dunno.
Jan 20 23:24:40 <APic> But i am sure.
Jan 20 23:24:43 <APic> Somehow.
Jan 20 23:25:16 <Maxdamantus> it doesn't really take much time to transfer just uBoot (and maybe an attached kernel), and there'll've already been communication before the actual transfer.
Jan 20 23:26:14 <Maxdamantus> Actually, not sure. I'm judging from using -b, but flashing will probably be writing to the NAND during the transfer.
Jan 20 23:26:28 <kerio> if uboot is loaded you can just use it to do whatever
Jan 20 23:26:35 <Maxdamantus> which I'd expect to take a second.
Jan 20 23:26:48 <kerio> flashing the bootloader is really fast, yes
Jan 20 23:27:44 <Maxdamantus> with the kernel attached?
Jan 20 23:27:49 <Maxdamantus> (should be about 3.5 MiB)
Jan 20 23:45:09 <bencoh> antranigv: btw, you do have a service manual, rigt ?
Jan 20 23:45:18 <bencoh> (the one with n900 schematics)
Jan 20 23:53:05 <antranigv> bencoh: nop :-/
Jan 20 23:53:31 <antranigv> I'm trying to connect it with tapes now :)
Jan 20 23:55:07 <APic> http://Hentai.Republican/
Jan 20 23:55:34 <bencoh> antranigv: https://n900.googlecode.com/git/web-backup/N900_Hardware_Schematic_-_maemoorg_wiki/nokia_n900_rx-51_schematics.pdf
Jan 20 23:56:06 <bencoh> APic: wtf :D
Jan 20 23:59:53 <APic> PP
Jan 20 23:59:55 <APic> ;-PP even
Jan 21 00:05:17 <antranigv> bencoh: thanks!
Jan 21 00:10:16 * Maxdamantus wonders if that link was meant to be temporary.
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