**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 23 02:59:59 2015 Jan 23 06:30:29 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Jan 23 08:00:28 how much would you be willing to buy an N900 with broken USB & no battery, but otherwise good condition? Jan 23 08:00:52 i have opportunity to buy such N900, and would aprreciate some pointers Jan 23 08:11:07 if you do buy it, one of the first things you should do is install u-boot, if it's not already there. Jan 23 08:11:42 So you can load kernels and arguments from an SD card. Jan 23 08:13:42 * Maxdamantus ' u-boot is modified to use Dvorak, so he'd replace it anyway. Jan 23 08:30:56 Sicelo: since you can buy working n900 in good condition for a bit over 50euro, i guess 30-40e would be a price i would consider Jan 23 08:34:08 Sicelo: buy it to fix the usb i guess **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 23 08:40:48 2015 Jan 23 08:41:56 of course, :) Jan 23 08:46:05 the guy wants 20 euro, so i suppose we're good Jan 23 08:47:02 because we're some distance apart, he agreed for me to take it before paying, and pay once i'm satisfied Jan 23 12:57:44 $ find /mnt/sd/music/ -name \*.mp3 | while read x; do ffmpeg -i "$x" -acodec flac -f flac -y /dev/null Useful command. Jan 23 12:58:55 * Maxdamantus wonders how quickly he can run the battery down. Jan 23 13:03:56 but .... why ? Jan 23 13:04:24 because it can be done! Jan 23 13:04:58 sure but why convert a mp3 to flac ? Jan 23 13:05:28 no point whatsoever Jan 23 13:05:35 :) Jan 23 13:05:48 Don't worry. I'm writing it to /dev/null. Jan 23 13:05:58 =] Jan 23 13:38:14 So with the bq27k thing, is it expected that people only use one battery? Jan 23 13:39:15 Do other mobile devices tend to have a similar mechanism for measuring battery capacity? Jan 23 13:39:55 I suspect with laptops something like that chip will be inside the removable "battery" component. Jan 23 13:40:19 others have the counter in the battery, e.g. in the openmoko ones Jan 23 13:40:21 yes Jan 23 13:40:49 So do those batteries have more than three contacts? Jan 23 13:41:05 no Jan 23 13:48:16 Mm, some TI report says having the chip in the host is practical if you use batteries with the same capacity. Jan 23 13:49:35 some guy is selling dead n900. Says that light lits when charger is connected, but otherwise it's dead. Is it worth buying? Jan 23 13:50:26 could be a disconnected screen (?) Jan 23 13:50:42 hmm Jan 23 13:50:49 Probably not. Jan 23 13:50:51 i thought like badly damaged os Jan 23 13:50:59 hm, light would go white at boot, nevermind Jan 23 13:51:04 ^ Jan 23 13:51:05 and bring it up by reflash.... Jan 23 13:51:07 also, vibration. Jan 23 13:51:14 unless that's malfunctioning. Jan 23 13:52:10 i guess it just lits that yellow light which u have pulsing when loading Jan 23 13:52:28 The pulsating is done by the LED controller. Jan 23 13:52:28 didn't say anything about vibration Jan 23 13:52:35 quite a lot of sellers this days Jan 23 13:52:44 What he's describing is probably the charger itself. Jan 23 13:52:55 where it's just a solid orange. Jan 23 13:52:59 Vajb: at least the usb port is not broken :D Jan 23 13:53:02 or "yellow" Jan 23 13:53:03 * Vajb thinks that one can never have too much spare devices Jan 23 13:53:37 hah yeah! Jan 23 13:53:54 Maxdamantus: yes i think that's the case Jan 23 13:54:09 was thinking of possiblity of cold flash Jan 23 13:55:57 What does it mean when the battery voltage goes up? Jan 23 13:56:25 depends from how much to how much I'd say :) Jan 23 13:56:30 maybe it's just difficult to determine. Jan 23 13:56:52 3628 mV to 3646 mV Jan 23 13:57:17 in ten minutes. Jan 23 13:58:44 charging ? Jan 23 13:59:07 can't it be just less load on cpu? Jan 23 13:59:18 not charging. Jan 23 13:59:46 could be ... or an artefact Jan 23 13:59:46 bencoh: I have successfully patched feh for wmhints Jan 23 13:59:53 totalizator: yay, congratz :) Jan 23 14:00:07 sorry I didnt dwelve into it :) Jan 23 14:00:36 sure, still it's thanks to you - I had no clue what caused it :3 Jan 23 14:00:46 i asked the seller if that phone vibrates and offered one euro if it doesn't :D Jan 23 15:07:41 04:05 3179 7 7 -375 100 100 100 65535 16 42 1 Jan 23 16:30:28 So where does bme-replacement get the maximum mAh from? Jan 23 16:30:52 # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/charge_full Jan 23 16:30:53 1486191 Jan 23 16:31:05 but the status menu says 1288 Jan 23 16:32:04 presumably that charge_full is wrong somehow. Jan 23 16:56:25 Maxdamantus: i read somewhere that it got it from some resistor on third battery connector Jan 23 16:57:08 there was some gconf command to make it use value from bq27200 Jan 23 16:58:23 try searching for "bme replacement not showing correct battery capacity" or something similiar Jan 23 16:58:58 tho i didn't try it. I just live with the wrong value... Jan 23 18:03:27 great. Newest update seems to have broken my yappari. Jan 23 18:24:49 ok just read through yappari post in tmo.... Jan 23 20:16:52 is yappari now dead? Jan 23 20:25:21 i think its just a 24 ban for alternative whatsapp clients? Jan 23 20:30:50 or rather cut out support for old protocol. time will tell really Jan 23 20:31:31 anyway, so that N900 i was expecting has arrived, and really looks good. USB tracks are all good, so repair should be easy Jan 23 20:31:38 :) Jan 23 20:33:31 everything else works Jan 23 20:59:33 Maxdamantus: that node doesn't exist on my N900 (cssu thumb) Jan 23 21:00:04 my vanilla N900 is off, would check.. Jan 23 21:06:37 Sicelo: you need to load the module for it. Jan 23 21:06:45 ah Jan 23 21:35:51 Hm. Dunno. I think the bq27k chip is confused, and something normally fixes the numbers before it gets to the battery status thing, but not when it has to get the numbers from the kernel module. Jan 23 21:36:30 I noticed one of Estel's posts mentioned some sort of calibration of the chip, could be that. Jan 23 21:38:32 the bq27200.sh script and the kernel module both indicate the last full discharge was 1486 mAh (1486191 µAh, from the kernel module) Jan 23 21:38:58 but it's a standard BL-5J, which is meant to be 1320. Jan 23 22:35:47 anyone knows where I can buy a new N900? :) Jan 24 02:57:02 * Maxdamantus wonders how to take a proper photo without the camera-ui. Jan 24 02:57:42 This is a bit silly: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Shoot_photo_after_10_seconds Jan 24 02:58:10 it just reads it as a video source, upscaling the first frame. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 24 02:59:59 2015