**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 22 02:59:59 2015
Feb 22 07:05:09 <Vajb> bme-replacement shows 1221/1308 and claims that battery is full. Is that normal?
Feb 22 07:19:51 <KotCzarny> anyone here owns bluetooth headset with buttons?
Feb 22 11:42:40 <hardcoretex> i thought ARM was a SIP vendor, how in the world is there a coretex A15 "Hardware/Production Silicon" that isnt from a vendor?: http://pastebin.com/ygG4rcpa 
Feb 22 11:43:09 <KotCzarny> chinese knockoff?
Feb 22 11:43:10 <KotCzarny> ;)
Feb 22 11:43:14 <KotCzarny> jk
Feb 22 11:44:16 <hardcoretex> i mean if that implies that they actually went ahead and commissioned a one off soc with those specs...
Feb 22 11:44:26 <hardcoretex> that would be a paradigm shift?
Feb 22 11:44:43 <hardcoretex> usually they just stick with FPGAs no?
Feb 22 11:47:25 <KotCzarny> dont know, im trying to make headphone button detected in python
Feb 22 12:02:18 <bencoh> KotCzarny: isnt there a hal/dbus event for that ?
Feb 22 12:03:41 <KotCzarny> bencoh: im a python newbie, can you help?
Feb 22 12:04:21 <KotCzarny> right now i can only work with wired headset (hs-48)
Feb 22 12:04:40 <KotCzarny> installed headset-control but dbus-monitor doesn't show anything
Feb 22 12:27:30 <KotCzarny> stupid nokia
Feb 22 12:33:06 <KotCzarny> and pressing focus button generates same event as releasing it
Feb 22 12:33:13 <KotCzarny> uber stupid
Feb 22 12:56:24 <KotCzarny> can my app grab keys when phone is locked?
Feb 22 14:06:32 <bencoh> KotCzarny: no way I can help you with python stuff :)
Feb 22 14:12:58 <KotCzarny> bencoh: pity
Feb 22 14:13:15 <KotCzarny> so maybe you know if i can get key events when device is closed?
Feb 22 14:13:24 <KotCzarny> ie. zoom keys/cam focus
Feb 22 14:16:37 <KotCzarny> i shall grab me some bt headset/controller for testing
Feb 22 14:24:15 <bencoh> KotCzarny: see hal/dbus
Feb 22 14:24:28 <KotCzarny> problem is, there is nothing
Feb 22 14:24:34 <KotCzarny> ie. when screen is locked
Feb 22 14:24:43 <bencoh> unless you want to watch a /sys entry but I'm sure you dont want to do that
Feb 22 14:24:58 <bencoh> KotCzarny: heck, it works when mediaplayer plays
Feb 22 14:25:16 <bencoh> so there has to be something
Feb 22 14:25:30 <KotCzarny> maybe one should instruct sstem via dbus that one wants to receive keys even when locked
Feb 22 14:25:59 <KotCzarny> or maybe they simply watch that /sys entry
Feb 22 14:26:23 <bencoh> I doubt it
Feb 22 14:26:40 <bencoh> try it with openmediaplayer, and if it works, read the source
Feb 22 14:31:16 <KotCzarny> hum
Feb 22 14:31:22 <KotCzarny> volume keys do work
Feb 22 14:38:02 <KotCzarny> it registers itself as /com/nokia/mediaplayer on dbus
Feb 22 14:38:13 <KotCzarny> maybe then it gets special treatment
Feb 22 14:40:00 <bencoh> dunno
Feb 22 14:40:08 <bencoh> but read the source
Feb 22 14:40:25 <bencoh> oh and .... see shortcutd for focus button
Feb 22 14:40:29 <KotCzarny> tried, but don't know where to look
Feb 22 14:51:25 <KotCzarny> somehow when it runs, tklock sends signal about those keys pressed
Feb 22 14:51:47 <KotCzarny> and it lasts a bit after i close omp
Feb 22 14:51:53 <KotCzarny> then back to nothing
Feb 22 14:55:06 <bencoh> huh ?
Feb 22 14:55:41 <KotCzarny> all i can say, it's needlessly complicated
Feb 22 14:56:04 <KotCzarny> and i can't find any manual that says what/when/how
Feb 22 14:56:45 <bencoh> complicated, yes. I dont know about "needlessly"
Feb 22 16:15:02 <erlehmann> Pali merlin1991 was telepathy-gabble pushed to cssu?
Feb 22 16:15:08 <erlehmann> any testers?
Feb 22 16:15:14 <erlehmann> http://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2014/10/counting-to-20-an-ode-to-singletons/
Feb 22 16:16:35 <erlehmann> lel http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ftl/272
Feb 22 16:17:32 <erlehmann> http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&text=%20%5BYou%5D%20%5Bwin%5D%20%5Bthe%5D%20%5Bgame%5D
Feb 22 16:18:46 <erlehmann> http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=288878
Feb 22 16:18:51 <erlehmann> > 
Feb 22 16:18:51 <erlehmann> At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 200 or more cards in your library, you win the game.
Feb 22 16:20:21 <erlehmann> http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=230788
Feb 22 16:20:25 <erlehmann> > 
Feb 22 16:20:25 <erlehmann> If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead.
Feb 22 16:22:25 <Pali> erlehmann: I uploaded it now to cssu-devel
Feb 22 16:24:25 <erlehmann> Pali great!
Feb 22 16:24:26 <erlehmann> :)
Feb 22 16:24:28 <erlehmann> thank you
Feb 22 16:54:51 <KotCzarny> is there some dbus wizard?
Feb 22 16:57:21 <KotCzarny> i would like to receive messages from tklock
Feb 22 16:57:30 <KotCzarny> what do i need to do?
Feb 22 16:59:09 <bencoh> are you sure it comes from tklock ?
Feb 22 16:59:13 <KotCzarny> yes
Feb 22 16:59:26 <KotCzarny> signal sender=:1.44 -> dest=(null destination) serial=227 path=/com/nokia/tklock/signal; interfac
Feb 22 16:59:27 <KotCzarny> e=com.nokia.tklock.signal; member=mm_key_press
Feb 22 16:59:41 <KotCzarny> that's what omp was receiving
Feb 22 16:59:53 <KotCzarny> and what i was seeing in dbus-monitor
Feb 22 17:00:04 <bencoh> hmm
Feb 22 17:00:12 <KotCzarny> but i think i need to do more than just add signal receiver
Feb 22 17:00:23 <KotCzarny> ie. somehow tell tklock that i want those messages
Feb 22 17:01:13 <bencoh> funny, it's in osso-systemui-tklock/include/systemui/tklock-dbus-names.h (in the cssu rewrite), but I cant find where the signal is emitted
Feb 22 17:01:39 <bencoh> KotCzarny: no, you just need to listen to the event
Feb 22 17:01:45 <bencoh> dbus acts like a bus
Feb 22 17:02:35 <KotCzarny> but as i said, dbus-monitor doesn't show those messages 
Feb 22 17:02:41 <bencoh> see dbus_add_handler and dbus_connection_add_filter
Feb 22 17:02:42 <KotCzarny> but it does when i run omp
Feb 22 17:02:48 <bencoh> hmm
Feb 22 17:03:06 <KotCzarny> try for yourself
Feb 22 17:04:59 <bencoh> dunno where it is ... maybe systemui itself
Feb 22 17:05:14 <bencoh> (or mce ?)
Feb 22 17:07:08 <KotCzarny> omp connects to /com/nokia/mce/signal
Feb 22 17:07:47 <KotCzarny> does it mean it opens some special connection?
Feb 22 17:08:23 <bencoh> I dunno how qdbus works, but it's probably something similar to dbus_connection_add_filter
Feb 22 17:08:43 <KotCzarny> yeah, apart from function name it connects to dbus
Feb 22 17:09:28 <bencoh> and I still dont know when/why the zoom/volume events are emitted (by tklock, or whatever)
Feb 22 17:09:44 <KotCzarny> because it becomes top app?
Feb 22 17:09:51 <bencoh> who ? tklock ?
Feb 22 17:09:54 <KotCzarny> yeah
Feb 22 17:10:08 <bencoh> maybe, but I cant find it in the cssu replacement :)
Feb 22 17:10:41 <bencoh> (yet I know changing volume when MP is running works :)
Feb 22 17:10:55 <KotCzarny> most likely the same reason/if
Feb 22 17:13:46 <bencoh> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8011
Feb 22 17:13:48 <bencoh> it might be in mafw
Feb 22 17:17:57 <KotCzarny> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8011#c22
Feb 22 17:18:04 <KotCzarny> that's exactly the situation i'm having
Feb 22 17:18:57 <KotCzarny> i shall look at kmplayer source
Feb 22 17:20:28 <bencoh> I dont think you're using mafw ;)
Feb 22 17:20:36 <KotCzarny> nope
Feb 22 17:20:37 <KotCzarny> :)
Feb 22 17:20:39 <bencoh> (well, kmplayer probably doesnt either)
Feb 22 17:20:53 <KotCzarny> that's why i think they may have found workaround
Feb 22 17:28:21 <KotCzarny> i'm too stupid for all that dbus mess
Feb 22 17:34:24 <bencoh> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59700
Feb 22 17:34:33 <bencoh> I cant find the source for that
Feb 22 17:34:41 <bencoh> but it looks like it does exactly what you're looking for :)
Feb 22 17:48:32 <KotCzarny> hehe, qwerty12 again
Feb 22 17:48:39 <KotCzarny> the notorious hack hunter
Feb 22 17:49:10 <Vajb> KotCzarny: did u figure out how to use cam focus while screen is locked?
Feb 22 17:49:48 <KotCzarny> vajb: i'm still at the phase 'how the heck coerce system to send key events when screenlocked'
Feb 22 17:50:11 <KotCzarny> i wonder why there is no source for that app
Feb 22 17:51:18 <bencoh> see the associated rant
Feb 22 17:51:25 <bencoh> I dont think he was in the mood
Feb 22 17:51:27 <Sicelo> RE it ;)
Feb 22 17:51:45 <bencoh> though he does say in the rant that it should be in extra-devel ... so I guess it was removed
Feb 22 17:51:48 <bencoh> (or never uploaded)
Feb 22 17:52:15 <Vajb> dunno if this helps, but im using this with panucci to pause playback via cam focus while screen is locked wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts
Feb 22 17:53:00 <Vajb> also shortcutd...
Feb 22 17:53:14 <bencoh> wait, shortcutd works when locked ?
Feb 22 17:53:34 <Vajb> with that cam focus hack yes
Feb 22 17:53:53 <bencoh> oh
Feb 22 17:54:08 <KotCzarny> looking at strings from that app one can assume mangling dbus
Feb 22 17:54:34 <KotCzarny> it proxies tklock and cam_focus
Feb 22 17:54:35 <bencoh> yeah
Feb 22 17:54:44 <bencoh> it looks ugly :)
Feb 22 17:59:42 <freemangordon_> but actually works :)
Feb 22 18:01:46 <KotCzarny> In fact during the in
Feb 22 18:01:46 <KotCzarny> stall of this program, I had to modify the volume applet with sed to stop it from interfering becaus
Feb 22 18:01:47 <KotCzarny> e it's closed
Feb 22 18:01:48 <KotCzarny> hehe
Feb 22 18:04:01 <Sicelo> ~jr-tools
Feb 22 18:04:02 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
Feb 22 19:54:27 <KotCzarny> looking through strings: /com/nokla/tklock/signal
Feb 22 19:54:28 <KotCzarny> lol
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