**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 21 02:59:59 2015 Mar 21 07:21:47 hey anyway to make an app not appear in dashboard ?? Mar 21 07:32:16 remove .desktop file Mar 21 07:33:08 why would you do that? unless it's a lib for example. Mar 21 07:33:31 maybe he is writing a trojan Mar 21 07:33:33 sixwheeledbeast, maybe the lib needs to be updated Mar 21 07:34:17 anyone can provide some insight as far as using Modrana goes? how do i get offline maps? i followed https://wiki.maemo.org/ModRana_offline_routing_guide, but this does not actually contain the maps/tiles. Mar 21 07:37:08 maybe it has some 'download maps for this area' button Mar 21 07:39:58 yes, but that's not so efficient. i need to save a complete province Mar 21 07:40:46 that download button, does it download the highest zoon in level? Mar 21 07:42:06 KotCzarny no trojan. :D sylpheed has an option to check email every x minutes. but if we close it, it dsnt wrk. thats y, tp hide it when its running. Mar 21 07:42:37 KotCzarny removing.desktop removes it from menu, not from dashboard. Mar 21 07:43:28 sixwheeledbeast maybe to keep an app running, if its not a daemon. Mar 21 07:45:11 But an app will not automatically run if not a daemon? Mar 21 07:45:36 Sicelo: the current zoom level Mar 21 07:45:43 is the start reference Mar 21 07:47:11 the desktop icons are easily removed if that's what you mean? Mar 21 07:49:00 KotCzarny, the trojans would need a horse Mar 21 07:49:20 KotCzarny, and lots of whale pie Mar 21 08:07:02 sixwheeledbeast: I dont think after closing an app, it will be able to do stuff like periodic check of something until has it implemented in daemon or has some external assist like cron or alarmed ??? Mar 21 08:08:32 sixwheeledbeast: so option to hide that app from dashboard will provide a way to keep it running w/o worry of accidently closing it. ??maybe!! Mar 21 08:16:13 KotCzarny: ^^ Mar 21 08:19:10 newbieAlert: I believe that would require modifications to Maemo h/d, really the app should have a daemon Mar 21 08:25:53 sixwheeledbeast: really the app should, but i dont think it does. Maemo h/d ?? there was this modified version of h/d or something that allowed to change the layout of dashoard ( ie showing 2 open apps at one time or all of the opened apps at one time (default)), maybe that can help ??? Mar 21 08:27:03 no mhd is now in CSSU. You point is correct really the app should be fixed, not Maemo modified. Mar 21 08:30:02 sixwheeledbeast: yep email clients should have daemons :/ except modest, none has it as far as maemo is concerned. No qtmail, claws, trojita, sylpheed ... :/ Qtmail has push but needs to be open, like i said, same with sylpheed and other ED options maybe. Mar 21 08:31:29 er? well I only use modest. Mar 21 08:33:28 sixwheeledbeast: :D :D i keep modest STOPPED. every now and then, it suddenly takes too much CPU. Mar 21 08:34:35 nothing wrong here and any issues that are confirmed would be covered under CSSU to be fixed. Mar 21 08:35:31 still them other clients would have to be modified for Maemo, or a cron workaround Mar 21 08:38:19 sixwheeledbeast: yeah, cron workaround should be better. Less battry required maybe! Mar 21 08:39:06 newbieAlert: so even with modest "closed" you see high CPU? Mar 21 08:39:24 ~phonecontrol Mar 21 08:39:25 i heard phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control Mar 21 08:40:02 sixwheeledbeast: i just encountered a thing .. ED related. starting sylpheed fro debian chroot & as debbie sylpheed; both the windows differ. I mean in font & looks. Why ?? Mar 21 08:42:04 sixwheeledbeast: Closed as in, if i have an email acoount, sometimes it takes upto 5% cpu for a moment and comes down. Normally, it takes about ~1%. So i prefer to do kill -19 on it. saves that 1% spike. Mar 21 08:42:46 maybe it's actually doing something important? Mar 21 08:43:40 I have no modest CPU unless it's doing something Mar 21 08:45:07 newbiealert: if its gtk/qt app running it from chroot makes it use different theme probably Mar 21 08:46:14 sixwheeledbeast: have no idea about that. i also dont usually have modest CPU, i said *spike*. Right now, opened modest, spiked to ~50% 2 times in this minute. Mar 21 08:46:34 KotCzarny: Maybe. Gtk app it is. Portable. Mar 21 08:47:46 KotCzarny: debbie version seems more finger friendly !! but theme is still of ED. Mar 21 08:48:35 newbieAlert: Its most likely doing something. Send/Recieve or what have you. Mar 21 08:49:32 sixwheeledbeast: Yeah. It is. Thats the only time ideally it should take CPU. Mar 21 08:54:27 well if it's doing something then I don't see an issue. I only have modest CPU active if it's open and loading mail or Send/Recieve. Also when it's closed the CPU runs for a bit, maybe a minute or so. Mar 21 11:51:15 totalizator: |> giraffen efraim (giraff.mod) (17856, 1, Protracker M.K.) Mar 21 12:11:18 n900's pygtk is stupid (ie. buggy) Mar 21 14:00:47 hmm that was strange. I was running bq272 in loop mode to recalibrate, but it never got to 3248mv. Instead it told me to recharge battery and turned off at 3371mv. Mar 21 14:01:08 :) Mar 21 14:01:31 maybe constant reading interrupts measurements? Mar 21 14:01:54 will have to try again at next full load Mar 21 14:02:30 well that's the way it's meant to be calibrated :) Mar 21 14:03:03 maybe it turned off as a security measure? Mar 21 14:03:17 what was the temperature? Mar 21 14:03:29 32 Mar 21 14:04:25 it worked fine last time, but now 30 cycles has passed so i have to recalibrate Mar 21 14:04:55 tho my new mugen battery should arrive in two weeks :p Mar 21 14:05:14 i never recalibrate, i just use battery till the red bar and then recharge Mar 21 14:05:52 do u use bme or replacement? Mar 21 14:05:53 sometimes it even goes lower than that (batteryeye shows 0mAh for 15-40 minutes) Mar 21 14:06:00 im using stock fremantle Mar 21 14:06:10 ah i c Mar 21 14:06:39 then there is no need for calibration because it wont be used anyway i guess Mar 21 14:09:08 i think bme also calibrates battery (ie. stores max/last capacity etc) Mar 21 14:10:49 bme mainly does weird shit Mar 21 14:10:54 :) Mar 21 14:13:30 any thoughts of my recent issue merlin1991? Mar 21 14:14:37 I'm not that familiar with bq... Pali probably knows something Mar 21 14:15:57 no worries. I'll try again and will be wiser tomorrow Mar 21 20:24:38 Vajb: disable nokia-bme when recalibrating Mar 21 20:25:51 but check carefully your battery level and keep your charger at reach for the last hundred(s) mAh Mar 21 21:55:30 Pali, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1464604#post1464604 Mar 21 22:57:07 bencoh: earlier it calibrated just fine, without disabling anything **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 22 02:59:58 2015