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Apr 06 04:41:31 <KotCzarny> freemangordon: i have few dictionaries and an app to use them, format is xv2
Apr 06 04:43:02 <KotCzarny> (app is commandline with ncurses on-type search capability and even have an interface in php for it
Apr 06 04:50:51 <KotCzarny> i can compile it for n900 if you want to try
Apr 06 06:31:44 <KotCzarny> freemangordon: want some dictionaries in xv2 format?
Apr 06 06:31:53 <KotCzarny> i have also cmdline and ncurses interfaces for it
Apr 06 06:32:09 <freemangordon> xv2? can n900 open that?
Apr 06 06:32:15 <freemangordon> otherwise, yes
Apr 06 06:32:28 <KotCzarny> i can compile kcxlator for n900
Apr 06 06:32:37 <KotCzarny> and you can write python interface
Apr 06 06:32:40 <freemangordon> hehe
Apr 06 06:32:56 <KotCzarny> and format is described in few places
Apr 06 06:33:00 <freemangordon> I am not python developer, you know :)
Apr 06 06:33:11 <KotCzarny> you can write interface in qt too
Apr 06 06:33:13 <KotCzarny> ;)
Apr 06 06:33:16 <freemangordon> sure
Apr 06 06:33:37 <KotCzarny> let me find the sources
Apr 06 06:33:53 <freemangordon> the point is I am on different track, so won;t have time (and maybe will) to play with that
Apr 06 06:33:54 <KotCzarny> long time no compile
Apr 06 06:34:13 <KotCzarny> well, it can be used from cmdline
Apr 06 06:34:17 <KotCzarny> ie. kcxlator word
Apr 06 06:34:23 <KotCzarny> and it will spit out the definition
Apr 06 06:34:45 <KotCzarny> but ncurses is fine enough
Apr 06 06:34:46 <freemangordon> the problem is that it is my GF who needs it. not that she can't use the cli, but I guess it won;t be very comfortable :)
Apr 06 06:34:52 <KotCzarny> hmm
Apr 06 06:35:02 <KotCzarny> if its for your gf i can give you php interface for it
Apr 06 06:35:10 <KotCzarny> i guess she can use the browser
Apr 06 06:35:11 <KotCzarny> ;)
Apr 06 06:35:13 <freemangordon> to run on the device?
Apr 06 06:35:22 <freemangordon> oh, you mean....
Apr 06 06:35:23 <bencoh> :)
Apr 06 06:35:39 <KotCzarny> also, there is a symbian app for it
Apr 06 06:35:49 <KotCzarny> s40/s60
Apr 06 06:35:50 <freemangordon> java2me?
Apr 06 06:36:07 <KotCzarny> http://www.farbiszowie.is.net.pl/Xlator/
Apr 06 06:36:08 <KotCzarny> see here
Apr 06 06:36:12 <freemangordon> that one will make the job
Apr 06 06:36:27 <KotCzarny> but for s40 you will have to use smaller files
Apr 06 06:36:44 <freemangordon> what that page means in english?
Apr 06 06:36:54 <KotCzarny> see screenshots 
Apr 06 06:37:27 <KotCzarny> and downloads are on the bottom
Apr 06 06:38:00 <KotCzarny> and i can put the xv2 files somewhere as it's an old page and references might be out of date
Apr 06 06:38:19 <freemangordon> is there english<->bulgarian dictionary?
Apr 06 06:38:27 <KotCzarny> hmm
Apr 06 06:38:41 <KotCzarny> you can produce one if you have plaintext list
Apr 06 06:39:42 <freemangordon> actually she needs english dictionary, with descriptions of the words in english, maybe the so-called "thesaurus" will do the job
Apr 06 06:39:53 <KotCzarny> yes
Apr 06 06:39:55 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: thanks, will try it
Apr 06 06:40:11 <KotCzarny> let me upp the us thesaurus somewhere
Apr 06 06:40:26 <freemangordon> oh, wait, thiose are .sis files :(
Apr 06 06:40:33 <freemangordon> not .jar
Apr 06 06:40:41 <KotCzarny> symbian s60 uses .sis
Apr 06 06:40:47 <freemangordon> yeah
Apr 06 06:40:55 <freemangordon> but you gave me a good idea
Apr 06 06:41:00 <KotCzarny> http://supportsamsung.pl/topic/3166-appbada-xlator-142-s%C5%82ownik-java-dzia%C5%82aj%C4%85cy-na-wave/
Apr 06 06:41:06 <KotCzarny> i think its the java version
Apr 06 06:41:57 <KotCzarny> actually there are a few java dicts
Apr 06 06:42:29 <freemangordon> hmm, what is mstardict?
Apr 06 06:42:47 <KotCzarny> mdict maybe?
Apr 06 06:44:03 <KotCzarny> http://www.appbrain.com/app/colordict-dictionary-universal/com.socialnmobile.colordict
Apr 06 06:44:18 <KotCzarny> anyway, what phone is she using?
Apr 06 06:44:29 <freemangordon> N900 :)
Apr 06 06:44:38 <KotCzarny> ok, ill compile ncurses version for you
Apr 06 06:44:51 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: don;t waste your time
Apr 06 06:45:02 <KotCzarny> trust me, it's nice
Apr 06 06:45:06 <freemangordon> seems there are some dictionary SWs in the repoas
Apr 06 06:45:10 <freemangordon> hmm, ok
Apr 06 06:45:30 <freemangordon> well, go ahead then, if you don;t mind the complains :D
Apr 06 06:45:41 <KotCzarny> :)
Apr 06 06:46:37 <KotCzarny> i call it 'user feedback'
Apr 06 06:52:44 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: that one http://www.umnet.com/download-software/12568-Dictionary_and_Thesaurus runs fine
Apr 06 07:02:33 <KotCzarny> :)
Apr 06 07:02:52 <KotCzarny> btw. j2me runs on n900?
Apr 06 07:04:11 <freemangordon> yep
Apr 06 07:04:14 <freemangordon> phoneme
Apr 06 07:04:47 <freemangordon> talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81969
Apr 06 07:50:38 <KotCzarny> freemangordon: https://sourceforge.net/projects/oscp/files/kcxlator/
Apr 06 07:52:26 <KotCzarny> f.xv2 is us thesaurus, i have also british one, and en-de/de-en/en-sp/sp-en dicts
Apr 06 07:52:38 <KotCzarny> (and polish ones, but i assume you are not interested in those)
Apr 06 07:53:30 <KotCzarny> saponga, wanna try kcxlator?
Apr 06 07:54:56 <KotCzarny>   freemartin (frimartn)
Apr 06 07:54:56 <KotCzarny>    n. A sterile or otherwise sexually imperfect female calf born as the twin of a bull calf. [Orig
Apr 06 07:54:56 <KotCzarny>   in unknown.]
Apr 06 07:54:58 <KotCzarny> lol
Apr 06 07:59:20 <KotCzarny> doh
Apr 06 07:59:26 <KotCzarny> freemangordon: https://sourceforge.net/projects/oscp/files/kcxlator/
Apr 06 07:59:31 <KotCzarny> f.xv2 is us thesaurus, i have also british one, and en-de/de-en/en-sp/sp-en dicts
Apr 06 07:59:36 <KotCzarny> (and polish ones, but i assume you are not interested in those)
Apr 06 07:59:58 <freemangordon_> KotCzarny: 10x
Apr 06 08:00:11 <freemangordon_> Sicelo: ping
Apr 06 08:00:31 <KotCzarny> i wrote it for pc keyboard, but added maemo specific navigation too
Apr 06 08:02:32 <KotCzarny> let me know if you think i should make a .deb package
Apr 06 08:02:41 <freemangordon_> ok
Apr 06 08:13:04 <saponga> is it a dict ?
Apr 06 08:13:08 <KotCzarny> yes
Apr 06 08:13:26 <KotCzarny> if you like it i can include en/sp/de dicts too
Apr 06 08:14:12 <saponga> ok. i'll try it. how about pt ?
Apr 06 08:14:53 <KotCzarny> i'm looking for converter, original site had one
Apr 06 08:15:06 <KotCzarny> i just hacked ncurses interface for it
Apr 06 08:15:19 <saponga> that
Apr 06 08:15:30 <saponga> dthat would be great
Apr 06 08:17:01 <saponga> im using sdcv but only en-en
Apr 06 08:26:09 <KotCzarny> maybe i should hack some pygtk version too
Apr 06 08:27:10 <saponga> i prefer cli
Apr 06 08:28:33 <KotCzarny> it's ncurses right now
Apr 06 08:28:41 <KotCzarny> so you might like it
Apr 06 08:29:33 <saponga> im sure
Apr 06 09:03:04 <fishbulb> hey can i toggle not charging when plugged into usb? when i want to tether my phone via usb network and don't want it drawing a charging amount of current from my tablet
Apr 06 09:06:31 <fishbulb> does anyone know of a widget or something that can toggle whether it charges or not while plugged into a usb port
Apr 06 09:07:10 <KotCzarny> stop bme
Apr 06 09:07:12 <KotCzarny> start bme
Apr 06 09:07:33 <KotCzarny> you can add a shortcut to your desktop that runs these commands as root
Apr 06 09:07:38 <fishbulb> what is bme
Apr 06 09:07:48 <KotCzarny> battery management e-somthing
Apr 06 09:07:56 <kerio> ew don't do that
Apr 06 09:08:09 <kerio> install the bme replacement and set the charging mode to "none"
Apr 06 09:08:09 <fishbulb> don't do that?
Apr 06 09:08:31 <kerio> besides, stopping bme will only halt charging for 30 seconds
Apr 06 09:08:39 <fishbulb> ok how many other answers should i wait for :)
Apr 06 09:08:46 <fishbulb> oh ok.
Apr 06 09:08:52 <kerio> after that, the emergency charging will kick in
Apr 06 09:08:53 <kerio> ~flatbat
Apr 06 09:08:57 <KotCzarny> kerio: how so? i always though battery doesnt charge at all without bme
Apr 06 09:08:58 <kerio> ~flatbatrecovery
Apr 06 09:09:07 <KotCzarny> *thought
Apr 06 09:09:11 <kerio> KotCzarny: bq24150 has a timer
Apr 06 09:09:16 <fishbulb> will it be in the drop down menu
Apr 06 09:09:29 <kerio> it reverts to the default behaviour (emergency charging) after 30ish seconds of no commands received
Apr 06 09:09:41 <fishbulb> wow i've stumbled into some hardcore n900 enthusiasts
Apr 06 09:09:47 <kerio> fishbulb: no shit
Apr 06 09:09:49 <kerio> where do you think you are
Apr 06 09:09:52 <KotCzarny> and what did they say?
Apr 06 09:09:55 <Sicelo> :D
Apr 06 09:10:14 <kerio> this is a channel for the OS of an obsolete 2009 smartphone
Apr 06 09:10:27 <fishbulb> dude i've been here before and it's been kids bitching about something stupid
Apr 06 09:10:29 <kerio> anyone still here must be VERY enthusiastic
Apr 06 09:10:33 <KotCzarny> unsupported? yes, obsolete? NO!
Apr 06 09:10:38 <kerio> KotCzarny: dude
Apr 06 09:10:40 <kerio> dude
Apr 06 09:10:41 <kerio> duuuuuuuuuuuuude
Apr 06 09:10:49 <KotCzarny> well
Apr 06 09:10:50 <kerio> it was obsolete even before it was sold
Apr 06 09:10:54 <KotCzarny> 'officially unsupported'
Apr 06 09:10:59 <KotCzarny> define obsolete
Apr 06 09:11:03 <KotCzarny> it does everything i want
Apr 06 09:11:15 <kerio> it doesn't do everything i want
Apr 06 09:11:19 <fishbulb> it was behind some other phones when it was sold
Apr 06 09:11:27 <kerio> for instance, i'd want its ram to exist
Apr 06 09:11:38 <kerio> :(
Apr 06 09:12:08 <Sicelo> you're all obsolete & unsupported ... and are burned :p
Apr 06 09:12:48 <KotCzarny> kerio: write efficient apps
Apr 06 09:12:57 <KotCzarny> my oscp is one example of being uncluttered
Apr 06 09:13:11 <fishbulb> i'm unsupported, i broke even this month with rent and bills
Apr 06 09:13:29 <Sicelo> :D
Apr 06 09:13:39 <kerio> ANYWAY
Apr 06 09:13:43 <Sicelo> !top
Apr 06 09:13:47 <KotCzarny> kerio, remember, linux started with 2-4 mb of ram
Apr 06 09:13:59 <kerio> istr that the bme replacement in "none" mode will actively not charge
Apr 06 09:14:00 <KotCzarny> we have.. *gasp* 128 megs!
Apr 06 09:14:04 <Sicelo> does infobot have a 'top' words list?
Apr 06 09:14:10 <kerio> ~bme-replacement
Apr 06 09:14:11 <infobot> somebody said bme-replacement was http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement  http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bme-replacement.html  See also: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!
Apr 06 09:14:29 <KotCzarny> we just need to choose smart apps, not 'oh another lib!' apps
Apr 06 09:14:43 <kerio> make a full backup with backupmenu or something like that
Apr 06 09:14:46 <KotCzarny> sicelo: it's another kind of bot
Apr 06 09:14:49 <Unbreakable> KotCzarny, remember whales eat plankton
Apr 06 09:14:52 * Sicelo bets oscp would come up tops :)
Apr 06 09:14:54 <fishbulb> raspi is 35 dollars and trounces this great little phoneputer
Apr 06 09:15:05 <Unbreakable> KotCzarny, equal to its own body mass
Apr 06 09:15:11 <Pali> infobot: bme-replacement is also http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183
Apr 06 09:15:11 <infobot> Pali: okay
Apr 06 09:15:15 <KotCzarny> sicelo: to be honest i didnt optimize it much (yet)
Apr 06 09:15:17 <Pali> ~bme-replacement
Apr 06 09:15:17 <infobot> well, bme-replacement is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement  http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bme-replacement.html  See also: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!
Apr 06 09:15:20 <KotCzarny> but it's slim enough even now
Apr 06 09:15:22 <kerio> i really wish i had enough disposable cash to buy a neo900 when it's out :(
Apr 06 09:15:28 <Pali> ~factinfo bme-replacment
Apr 06 09:15:28 <infobot> error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required)
Apr 06 09:15:28 <infobot> Pali: there's no such factoid as bme-replacment
Apr 06 09:15:30 <kerio> Pali: "none" will disable charging completely, right
Apr 06 09:15:48 <Pali> ~factinfo #maemo bme-replacement
Apr 06 09:15:48 <infobot> error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required)
Apr 06 09:15:48 <infobot> #maemo bme-replacement -- created by Estel_ <~Estel@Maemo/community/contributor/Estel-> at Sun Mar 24 15:44:43 2013 (742 days); last modified at Sun Mar 24 15:50:15 2013 by kerio!~kerio@Maemo/community/contributor/kerio; it has been requested 16 times, last by Pali, 31s ago.
Apr 06 09:15:51 <fishbulb> is bme replacement in the repos
Apr 06 09:16:06 <Pali> infobot: #maemo bme-replacement is also http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183
Apr 06 09:16:06 <infobot> Pali: okay
Apr 06 09:16:12 <Pali> ~bme replacement
Apr 06 09:16:21 <Pali> ~bme-replacement
Apr 06 09:16:21 <infobot> it has been said that bme-replacement is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement  http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bme-replacement.html  See also: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183
Apr 06 09:16:28 <Pali> :-)
Apr 06 09:16:37 <Sicelo> KotCzarny: i mean in 'top words' :)
Apr 06 09:16:38 <Pali> kerio: off
Apr 06 09:16:54 <KotCzarny> :)
Apr 06 09:17:05 <KotCzarny> i'm trying
Apr 06 09:17:15 <KotCzarny> but i suck at marketing
Apr 06 09:17:42 <KotCzarny> and pretty bloated interfaces
Apr 06 09:18:11 <Sicelo> Pali: i started using bme-replacement .. and have that stuck-on-50% issue, which accoding to tmo should be fixed by calibrating. except i can't calibrate .. non-working USB.
Apr 06 09:18:30 <Sicelo> any other way to deal with this? or just live with it?
Apr 06 09:18:46 <KotCzarny> sicelo, charge without bme?
Apr 06 09:18:48 <Pali> why you cannot calibrate?
Apr 06 09:19:19 <Pali> do not attach charger until phone automatically turns off (due to empty battery)
Apr 06 09:19:26 <Pali> then charge it until full battery
Apr 06 09:19:29 <Pali> and discharge again
Apr 06 09:19:36 <KotCzarny> he has extended size battery i think
Apr 06 09:19:50 <KotCzarny> and bme doesnt like 'too much of a change'
Apr 06 09:20:16 <Sicelo> no.
Apr 06 09:20:33 <Sicelo> usb isn't working on my N900, so I used external charger
Apr 06 09:24:02 <Unbreakable> usb sucks
Apr 06 09:24:05 <Unbreakable> use wireless
Apr 06 09:24:09 <Unbreakable> or whale power
Apr 06 09:27:45 <KotCzarny> hmm
Apr 06 09:27:49 <KotCzarny> right, it's vajb
Apr 06 09:59:52 <KotCzarny> freemangordon: have you tried kcxlator?
Apr 06 10:00:05 <Sicelo> so basically nothing much i can do, i guess? besides fixing the UsB of course
Apr 06 10:28:38 <freemangordon_> KotCzarny: no, will do it when I am back home
Apr 06 10:44:43 <KotCzarny> kk
Apr 06 12:35:18 <Vajb> KotCzarny: u got that right, but now mine is also calibrated ;)
Apr 06 12:35:32 <Vajb> 2359mah!
Apr 06 12:36:34 <Vajb> what my n900 loses in screen size it doubles in thickness :p
Apr 06 12:36:35 <KotCzarny> nice
Apr 06 12:37:04 <Vajb> yup, good for me
Apr 06 17:59:24 <freemangordon> Sicelo: ping
Apr 06 18:24:43 <Sicelo> freemangordon: pong
Apr 06 18:25:16 <freemangordon> Sicelo: I am about to upload a new version of FB uploader, which uses Nokia application Id, not mine
Apr 06 18:25:33 <freemangordon> could you please test it, in a couple of minutes?
Apr 06 18:25:34 <Sicelo> ok
Apr 06 18:25:37 <Sicelo> sure
Apr 06 18:25:45 <freemangordon> ok, will ping you when ready
Apr 06 18:39:13 <freemangordon> Sicelo: http://46.249.74.23/fb/
Apr 06 18:39:39 <freemangordon> this is what autobuilder produced, but it will take about 2 hours until it hits the repos
Apr 06 18:42:00 <Sicelo> let me install and see
Apr 06 18:43:14 <Sicelo> reboot needed? i doubt, or?
Apr 06 18:44:20 <freemangordon> no reboot
Apr 06 18:46:48 <Sicelo> hmm, so seems this one can access more stuff than when you had it with your own ID? the validation screen seems to have more info than i had before
Apr 06 18:51:14 <freemangordon> Sicelo: this is the Nokia application. And yes, it can do almost everything
Apr 06 18:51:23 <freemangordon> if not everything
Apr 06 18:52:11 <Sicelo> :)
Apr 06 18:52:27 <KotCzarny> can it do a barrel roll?
Apr 06 18:52:36 <freemangordon> never tried
Apr 06 18:52:42 <Sicelo> so it's the one with ID 100... and yours was 14..?
Apr 06 18:52:44 <freemangordon> feel free to test it :P
Apr 06 18:53:14 <freemangordon> Sicelo: no, the id is   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  67878695711
Apr 06 18:53:21 <freemangordon> wtf?
Apr 06 18:53:28 <Sicelo> hehe, 
Apr 06 18:53:34 <freemangordon> copy/paste from QtCreator
Apr 06 18:53:44 <freemangordon> weird
Apr 06 18:53:58 <freemangordon> anyway, the Nokia application id is 67878695711
Apr 06 18:54:47 <Sicelo> ok. shows different ID on the the Apps settings in FB website
Apr 06 18:55:08 <freemangordon> that's your user id I guess
Apr 06 18:55:40 <Sicelo> ok :)
Apr 06 19:00:14 <freemangordon> Sicelo: the main question - does it work? :)
Apr 06 19:02:24 <Sicelo> got a transfer error for now .. am quickly checking if it's not PEBKAC first :)
Apr 06 19:02:45 <freemangordon> Sicelo: authenticate again
Apr 06 19:02:52 <freemangordon> to get a new access token
Apr 06 19:02:56 <Sicelo> i did. let me redo
Apr 06 19:04:33 <Sicelo> transfer error again. i do get asked to choose a location though
Apr 06 19:07:47 <freemangordon> Sicelo: which album you try to upload to?
Apr 06 19:22:16 <Sicelo> the 'default' one 
Apr 06 19:22:24 <Sicelo> let me recreate others
Apr 06 19:26:48 <Sicelo> freemangordon: it doesn't update albums
Apr 06 19:28:48 <Sicelo> let me do from scratch .. delete the account on device and see
Apr 06 19:33:44 <freemangordon> ok
Apr 06 19:35:03 <Sicelo> uploading worked now + geo-tag
Apr 06 19:35:09 <Sicelo> let me try update album list
Apr 06 19:37:27 <Sicelo> works
Apr 06 19:37:36 <Sicelo> \m/
Apr 06 19:53:52 <freemangordon> Sicelo: hmm, weird
Apr 06 19:54:06 <freemangordon> anyway, that should not happen anymore
Apr 06 20:57:03 <Sicelo> freemangordon: maybe it was just PEBKAC, lol
Apr 06 23:36:14 <Oksana> Okay, who knows why sometimes: 1. hildon-desktop goes freezingly slow (if you are lucky, you can killall it, and it will work faster afterwards; if you are unlucky, you force it into reboot); 2. when rebooting, instead of "usual" LED shutdown-pattern, you see almost-not-here red-nothing-red-nothing periodic blinking (and when I say almost-not-here, I mean that - red is very not-bright)
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