**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 17 02:59:58 2015 May 17 06:02:41 sixwheeledbeast: thanks, will test one soon May 17 06:50:22 Humpelst1lzchen: I have two happy with both May 17 09:32:51 hey May 17 09:38:24 hey there May 17 12:31:50 ~dmnc May 17 13:49:49 hmm May 17 13:50:32 would it be possible to connect charger directly to battery pins (without the battery) or is 'smart' pin connection required too? May 17 13:51:53 i connect my charger directly, everything's fine May 17 13:52:01 ah May 17 13:52:03 nvm May 17 13:52:39 try plugging in a resistor if it won't work May 17 13:52:59 its just an idea for now May 17 13:53:07 also i'd add a capacitor to the output of the charger of about 1mF May 17 13:53:27 as the charger may suck at stabilizing the voltage May 17 13:53:48 uhum May 17 13:54:52 i'm planning to hack some recent linux on the mmc card, though i'll probably just buy some cheapo battery for tear and wear May 17 15:53:45 N900 definitely wants that third BSI pin. The software is hardcoded to shutdown if it doesn't detect it May 17 16:09:17 sicelo: no known hacks to override it? May 17 16:21:41 bme rewrite (; May 17 16:23:26 rescueos doesnt use bme, but is using bq2* module to charge May 17 16:39:20 is some version of nitdroid working, and if there is, is it any useful? May 17 16:39:35 i tried once to install some random version I found but it didn't work too well May 17 16:39:40 the screen only flickered May 17 16:39:44 N12_Umay I guess May 17 16:39:56 i gave out pretty soon, to be honest May 17 16:40:04 that is the last stable release. May 17 16:40:21 as stable as nitdroid is on N900. :P May 17 16:40:32 I never tried nitdroid May 17 16:41:02 i am just thinking of givint it a try simply for a good maps application May 17 16:41:13 i got like 6 different map apps on maemo and i don't like any of them :/ May 17 16:41:28 me too. May 17 16:41:55 the only one that simply works is sygic, but its maps are now pretty outdated and it's quite ugly to look at May 17 16:41:56 try N12_umay. Its based on gingerbread I think. May 17 16:42:37 sygic has stopped supporting their maps app for phones iirc May 17 16:42:49 yep, ages ago May 17 16:42:58 but since it's offline it still works if you have it installed May 17 16:43:04 hmmm. and it does look ugly. May 17 16:43:08 hmmm. May 17 16:43:20 yes, pretty ugly May 17 16:43:25 but it least it carries me places May 17 16:43:36 what about Nokia Maps. they updated the maps recently. May 17 16:43:43 was there one for N900 too. May 17 16:44:07 I remember asking that on twitter. but there was no response May 17 16:44:18 yes, ovi maps works May 17 16:44:23 it's prettier than sygic May 17 16:44:29 but i still find it lacking May 17 16:44:44 its the best available and most optimised imo May 17 16:45:11 I remember installing modrana, but I couldn't get around its UI. May 17 16:45:36 i would bet ovi maps will top working sooner or later now that m$ took over May 17 16:45:42 s/top/stop/ May 17 16:45:42 KotCzarny meant: i would bet ovi maps will stop working sooner or later now that m$ took over May 17 16:45:50 ceene: it is outdated. so lacking a lot things from today's standards May 17 16:45:57 yep, that's another thing too May 17 16:46:14 routing and search only works online May 17 16:46:33 so once microsoft decides to shut it down, which I assume will be soon, it won't be of any use anymore May 17 16:46:39 routing and search doesn't work offline? May 17 16:46:50 nope May 17 16:47:55 Kotczarny: you are misinformed. here Maps (previously Ovi Maps and Nokia Maps) is still a Nokia property. May 17 16:48:16 uhm, that's true May 17 16:49:33 they even released newer updates for MeeGo and Symbian phones. May 17 16:49:49 nokia is a m$ boy May 17 16:49:50 lucky them :) May 17 16:50:03 sooner or later they will get around that May 17 16:50:05 hehe. May 17 16:51:06 I would want if someone makes a capable browser for maemo that loads the here.com page May 17 16:51:21 or maybe an app. May 17 16:51:35 nowadays i use debian's midori to browse on the n900 May 17 16:52:07 it works better than any of the mobile browsers available for n900 May 17 16:52:11 I tried midori in the early days. May 17 16:52:24 I don't remember anything about it other than the icon May 17 16:52:27 there's a hildonized version May 17 16:52:31 but it's pretty unstable May 17 16:52:38 the debian one, however, is pretty good May 17 16:52:45 I installed about a dozen of browsers then. May 17 16:52:53 so did i :) May 17 16:52:58 and finally midori! May 17 16:53:05 to find out that MicroB and Opera is the best combination. :P May 17 16:53:08 i have midori, firefox and microb May 17 16:53:17 usually using microb May 17 16:53:20 I guess midori didn't work for some reason May 17 16:53:24 if page's js is not working i switch to ff May 17 16:53:40 maybe I installed the hildonized one. May 17 16:53:50 fennec is slow for me. May 17 16:54:00 yes, fennec is good but slow May 17 16:54:04 but the pages load eventually on it. May 17 16:54:10 fennec is also outdated May 17 16:54:18 it is. May 17 16:54:24 still, more workable for modern js than microb May 17 16:54:31 so is any browser on N900 May 17 16:54:43 i'm trying here.com with midori right now May 17 16:55:03 just to see how (if) it works May 17 16:55:35 it is great for online maps. May 17 16:56:11 for my area i just wget'ed some pngs from google maps May 17 16:56:13 I have always preffered Nokia Maps over Google May 17 16:56:19 and prepared a html page May 17 16:56:24 with a script May 17 16:56:38 pretty nice for offline high detail map May 17 16:56:48 cool idea May 17 16:57:04 well, there are a few apps that work well for that May 17 16:57:22 maep, marble, mapsi... May 17 16:57:28 to browse around they are useful May 17 16:57:40 but if you need to search any location they aren't very useful May 17 16:58:04 I actually need maps to search. May 17 16:58:21 I don't do navigation much with the help of maps. May 17 16:58:40 well, here.com works on midori May 17 16:58:43 but it's quite slow May 17 16:58:52 that was something to expect, nonetheless May 17 16:59:04 mhmm. May 17 16:59:17 did you open the mobile web app or the pc version May 17 16:59:30 i think it loaded the pc version May 17 16:59:39 i can change the user agent to trick into showing me something else May 17 17:00:15 try the mobile version. I never had the chance to see that in action. May 17 17:00:41 in the meantime, can you point me on how to install midori May 17 17:01:37 ceene: anyway, for navigation i have android one, offline and with path calculation May 17 17:01:47 .pl/.eu region tho May 17 17:01:54 i have a full debian on a chroot May 17 17:02:00 Kotczarny: which client do you use May 17 17:02:07 i use android tablet for it May 17 17:02:13 oh! so easy debian May 17 17:02:15 e-book reader to be exact May 17 17:02:22 yes, easy debian it is May 17 17:02:24 but works nicely as a map too May 17 17:02:41 never tried it. however I crave a lot for it. May 17 17:03:10 you really should May 17 17:03:17 i don't open PDFs with any maemo application May 17 17:03:22 i use debian's xournal May 17 17:03:32 it also lets you write on top of any page with the stylus May 17 17:03:35 there is xournal for maemo too. May 17 17:03:45 oh May 17 17:03:58 uhm May 17 17:03:59 yes May 17 17:04:03 :D May 17 17:04:03 i tried it sometime ago May 17 17:04:12 but i don't remember why i didn't like it May 17 17:04:29 probably because it's an older version and maybe it lacked something? May 17 17:05:09 m.here.com seems to work too May 17 17:05:38 more or less May 17 17:05:59 hmmm. is it faster than the pc version May 17 17:06:14 a little bit May 17 17:06:18 at least the interface is cleaner May 17 17:06:26 and you can see a chunk of the map May 17 17:06:33 instead of having lots of little thingies floating around May 17 17:06:58 haha. it is preferable on this screen. May 17 17:07:32 I once managed to somehow load here.com on MicroB, and like you say. May 17 17:07:44 there were thingies floating aound May 17 17:08:08 an updated version of maps May 17 17:08:13 would be pretty great May 17 17:08:30 so is there a way to know what a page requires to completely load May 17 17:09:01 i don't know May 17 17:09:05 probably acid tests? May 17 17:09:11 midori will load pretty much anything May 17 17:09:25 now, it being usable with our ram/cpu/screen is a different thing May 17 17:09:31 ceene: ofc it would be. but there are only two good maps available. and they both don't support maemo. May 17 17:09:32 firefox has a 'show dependencies' extension May 17 17:09:44 there is a chance it will work on maemo's version May 17 17:10:07 cool. doesn't matter if its on maemo or not. May 17 17:10:14 we just check the dependencies. May 17 17:10:35 also, you can just setup proxy and see what goes through it May 17 17:10:49 this one is also preferred way to filter things out May 17 17:10:51 make a script and provide the page those dependencies and package it as a maemo app. May 17 17:11:11 so it uses less ram/cpu and works faster. May 17 17:12:14 if it is possible. it should work a great deal for a lot of webpages that don't load completely on maemo. May 17 17:15:44 i use proxy that can automatically store files when they match the pattern May 17 17:15:56 good for all those /jquery.js May 17 17:16:17 and sometimes for some offline browsing May 17 17:17:20 running an squid caching proxy on the phone itself would be funny May 17 17:18:39 polipo - a small, caching web proxy May 17 17:18:46 it's available for maemo May 17 17:18:46 :D May 17 17:18:47 haha May 17 17:18:55 ceene, i wrote a proxy myself, for my own use May 17 17:19:02 its ~60kB May 17 17:19:14 and pretty featurefull May 17 17:19:34 is it available somewhere? May 17 17:19:36 far easier to setup too May 17 17:19:49 not yet May 17 17:20:07 as a side note, it works in cygwin too May 17 17:20:15 so it's pretty standard C May 17 17:20:50 and it has a few bugs that still needs squashing, but overall usable for me May 17 17:20:56 not for general audience tho May 17 17:21:09 but if you want i can upload binary somewhere May 17 17:21:17 you seem to enjoy coding things just for the sake of it :P May 17 17:21:43 oh, don't bother May 17 17:21:43 nope, i code things because i'm not able to find any other software that does what i need May 17 17:21:57 i may try polipo, just to see if a proxy would make my navigation better May 17 17:22:55 setting caching on some link is as simple as adding Csome.host/*/some/path to filter file May 17 17:23:26 ooh! we have an update for Yappari. May 17 17:23:37 I like dem updates. :P May 17 17:24:00 hehe May 17 17:24:04 :D May 17 17:24:05 it should solve your status issue :) May 17 17:24:08 everyone likes dem May 17 17:25:04 ceene: lets see. I guess that is a good workaround until you or someone else finds the bug hiding in that code. May 17 17:25:50 my feeling is that i keep patching things up May 17 17:26:01 but with an inherited codebase like this May 17 17:26:17 it's quite complex finding those little bastards May 17 17:26:43 hehe. May 17 17:26:57 you are still doing good enough. May 17 17:27:34 May the code be with you! May 17 17:27:36 :P May 17 17:27:38 it's a pity scorpius got bored :( May 17 17:28:02 is he even around anymore? May 17 17:28:10 i don't quite know May 17 17:28:14 he helped me a bit on the transition May 17 17:28:21 and was very kind May 17 17:28:29 but i think he doesn't use any nokia device anymore May 17 17:28:31 :D May 17 17:28:53 that maybe the reason he left the good work. May 17 17:29:01 most probably May 17 17:29:07 he stopped using his n900 May 17 17:29:16 but his yappari was one of the reasons i decided to buy one :) May 17 17:29:16 mhmm. May 17 17:29:35 i'm always late to the party! May 17 17:29:37 wow! May 17 17:29:55 i just can't stand android phones, not to speak of iphones May 17 17:30:04 :) May 17 17:30:08 i... don't know, i am useless, and can't use modern GUIs :( May 17 17:30:20 tru dat May 17 17:30:29 modern concepts arent always better May 17 17:30:32 and knowing that behind any android there's a linux kernel which i can't fully use because of things got on my nerves May 17 17:30:40 eh! I don't like Apple/iOS. May 17 17:30:42 i hate all that media library fashion May 17 17:30:45 samdungs. May 17 17:30:54 i mean, having to install a 20Mb application just to do backups May 17 17:31:03 when i could get around with a crontab+rsync... May 17 17:31:09 well, it makes me cringe May 17 17:31:14 I can use an android phone unless it gets updates. May 17 17:31:19 20? i think itunes is few hundred megs on pc May 17 17:31:29 and that means Nexus May 17 17:31:33 hehe May 17 17:32:10 Kotczarny: it is. May 17 17:32:26 my mom got a tablet and is always asking me how to do things... all i can say is: i don't know, i just poke buttons at random and keep interpreting strange little icons to be what i want them to be, sometimes i get lucky and touch the right thing May 17 17:32:42 :) May 17 17:32:47 lol! May 17 17:32:59 android is incosistent between versions May 17 17:33:14 last month or so, they upgraded gmail May 17 17:33:16 they should keep their iconset close to each revision May 17 17:33:30 so now my mom has to relearn all over again where the things are May 17 17:34:01 and if i get it wrong sometimes, you can only imagine how many hours can she lose trying to archive a conversation May 17 17:34:25 i mean, and i'm an engineer, i work programming computers, fpgas and designing goddamn circuits May 17 17:34:37 but here i am, can't teach my mom to archive mails on her gmail May 17 17:34:41 :> May 17 17:34:59 teaching is difficult :) May 17 17:35:05 my children will laugh at me May 17 17:35:10 not really May 17 17:35:14 especially teaching to non-techs ;) May 17 17:35:15 when i won't use their modern holographic systems May 17 17:35:20 you can then ask them about blackboxes inside their magic boxes May 17 17:35:24 and i insist on typing a whole bunch of things May 17 17:35:25 hehe May 17 17:35:31 there will be two kinds of people May 17 17:35:37 knowledgeable and idiots May 17 17:35:45 Kotczarny: I hate Android on the fact that only Google phones get the latest updates. and all other companies that manufacture android phones are too dumb to upgrade existing phones to the latest version. May 17 17:35:59 or maybe that is just marketing. May 17 17:36:12 princefakhan_: yeah, 2.3.x was pretty good May 17 17:36:22 then it just went to be incompatible from version to version May 17 17:36:32 ceene: wait ... they have holographic stuff these days ? May 17 17:36:35 yeah! May 17 17:36:46 bencoh: hehe, i hope my future kids will grow to see them! :) May 17 17:36:52 :-) May 17 17:37:04 i mean, i want to see them myself May 17 17:37:15 but since i'm a gui idiot i don't think i'll enjoy them very much May 17 17:37:31 * princefakhan_ scrolls up to see what he missed May 17 17:37:49 hehe, holohraphic cmdline May 17 17:37:53 well, it's not entirely my fault, you know, new google maps is unusable unless you have a modern i7 with at least 8Gb of ram May 17 17:38:03 so i keep wanting to use always the not-latest-release of everything May 17 17:38:19 ceene, but you want to use latest-release of oscp May 17 17:38:21 :) May 17 17:38:25 haha :D May 17 17:38:27 and othere kotczarny's stuff May 17 17:38:30 and ceene's stuff May 17 17:38:34 actually the old gmap was still available until recently (2 weeks) May 17 17:38:45 I didnt come across the "new" one until then May 17 17:38:48 it's unbearable May 17 17:38:58 so it's not only me who hates it, is it? May 17 17:39:10 thou art not alone ! :) May 17 17:39:29 GMaps. bleh. god how they messed it up. May 17 17:40:06 Now android users have to use it cuz of the tight integration. May 17 17:40:25 tight May 17 17:40:25 even when there is a better alternative available. May 17 17:40:28 what a nice word May 17 17:40:40 hehe. May 17 17:40:54 Android - Google services is nothing imo May 17 17:41:02 Nokia tried and failed. May 17 17:41:23 so yeah. its not just Maps. May 17 17:43:53 whatever is wrong with meecolay. it wouldn't let me apt-get update May 17 17:44:34 hmm ... honestly, osmand (osm on android) feels horribly slow May 17 17:44:53 osm? May 17 17:45:17 openstreetmap May 17 17:45:36 oh! openstreetmaps May 17 17:45:55 afaiu they're not using tiles (unlike most of the map apps on maemo) May 17 17:46:05 so ... it's freaking slow May 17 17:47:21 what is libcityinfo? May 17 17:47:44 is it the one that contains the time info of diff cities May 17 17:49:39 what was updated in the gtalk-plugin May 17 17:50:40 you can now set your client priority May 17 17:50:57 i think it tries to solve some issues if you have several client opens at the same time May 17 17:51:14 by giving a higher priority to your n900, so it always receives messages May 17 17:52:16 oh! May 17 17:52:55 when configuring your account May 17 17:53:00 there's a new input box May 17 17:53:04 i believe you have to put a number May 17 17:53:06 default is 0 May 17 17:53:10 and anything greate May 17 17:53:14 will give you priority May 17 17:53:18 or... something like that May 17 17:53:41 :D May 17 18:14:04 what is new on tmo May 17 18:16:21 nm. I see the New Post button. May 17 18:26:31 hmm ... I'm pretty sure someone added a wiki page for the downloads.maemo.nokia.com replacement, but I cant find it May 17 18:26:50 (I know the different TMO links, but the idea of linking everything from wiki sounds appealing) May 17 18:26:58 he he May 17 18:27:10 and now you know why i asked for your sources.lst May 17 18:27:28 KotCzarny: no, since I linked you the TMO thread ;) May 17 18:27:51 yes, but tmo shouldnt be primary source of info May 17 18:27:59 anyway, I wanted to add ~dmnc to infobot, so if anyone comes across this wiki page, please do :) May 17 18:28:18 such information should be on unmodifiable wiki page May 17 18:29:02 ~dmnc May 17 18:29:04 there are no official mirrors, so it should be editable, at least for some time :) May 17 18:29:14 true that May 17 18:29:23 * princefakhan_ wonders whatever that is May 17 18:29:51 dmns is downloads.maemo.nokia.com, but no official mirrors yet? search on talk.maemo.org for temporaries May 17 18:29:55 downloads.maemo.nokia.com May 17 18:29:59 dmnc is downloads.maemo.nokia.com, but no official mirrors yet? search on talk.maemo.org for temporaries May 17 18:30:05 ok ok, typo May 17 18:30:09 ~dmnc May 17 18:30:12 i uploaded a big torrent file May 17 18:30:17 i know some people mirrored it May 17 18:30:24 there are a couple mirrors that are apt-get usable May 17 18:30:25 he didn't learn May 17 18:30:27 but aren't complete May 17 18:30:47 mine was, but i won't be putting them on a publicy accesible http site May 17 18:30:51 ceene: actually they are :) May 17 18:30:55 infobot: why u no learn May 17 18:30:56 why not? May 17 18:31:08 (but the ovi part needs http basic auth, like the nokia servers) May 17 18:31:23 infobot: #maemo dmnc is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1467839 May 17 18:31:23 okay, bencoh May 17 18:31:29 ~dmnc May 17 18:31:30 dmnc is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1467839 May 17 18:31:57 and someone recently published a full copy with no auth at all May 17 18:32:16 oh, i didn't know about that May 17 18:32:32 much better all, then May 17 18:32:53 more mirrors, more chance it will stay up May 17 19:02:53 is there a way to apt-get install all the apps in a specified repo May 17 19:03:12 list them then just put all in the cmd line May 17 19:03:43 ohkay! May 17 19:04:05 and you'll probably end up having conflicts that prevent you from installing all of them May 17 19:04:10 :> May 17 19:04:16 yep, i wouldn't recommend doing that May 17 19:04:40 learning things hard way is sometimes fun May 17 19:05:02 well it is actually a small repo. and all the programs are needed. May 17 19:05:15 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/bme-replacement May 17 19:05:22 this one to be precise May 17 19:05:25 oh, it's no problem then May 17 19:05:52 on the other hand, probably most of the packages on the repo depend one on another May 17 19:06:04 so maybe installing just one ore two is enough to pull all of them May 17 19:06:12 mostly those that are libraries May 17 19:08:58 :) May 17 19:09:28 is bme-replacement awesome? where can i see an overview? May 17 19:10:29 ~bme-replacement May 17 19:10:30 i heard bme-replacement is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bme-replacement.html See also: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183 May 17 19:10:48 it's sufficiently fire-and-forget that it's not awesome May 17 19:10:52 :> May 17 19:11:16 Eh! I actually wanted to know if its just a replacement or improvement. May 17 19:11:24 it's a full replacement May 17 19:11:54 mhmm. like 0xFFFF May 17 19:12:19 okay no one loves the old kernel May 17 19:12:29 I guess that the name of the flasher replacement. May 17 19:12:30 and no one cares enough to adapt a new one for maemo May 17 19:12:32 >_> May 17 19:12:48 Pali does, I guess May 17 19:13:41 damn i left my n900 at a friends' house ;[ May 17 19:14:13 :> May 17 19:14:22 it's like forgetting a child May 17 19:14:29 at 'friend's' house May 17 19:14:36 a child is self-homing May 17 19:14:47 and annoy you when you're too far away May 17 19:14:51 unless child is tied in the cellar May 17 19:15:25 hmm i need a thing that will lock my laptop if i'm leaving it May 17 19:15:37 and doesn't consume much of power May 17 19:15:39 that's called xscreensaver May 17 19:15:43 -blank May 17 19:15:45 it's time-based May 17 19:15:57 i don't want it to lock the screen every 5s May 17 19:15:58 you can trigger it manually May 17 19:16:04 too lazy :] May 17 19:16:11 i just press cmd+shift+eject May 17 19:16:13 will try to use hdapsd for this tho May 17 19:16:14 bind to a key May 17 19:16:17 because i have a mac [: May 17 19:16:18 did this May 17 19:16:19 if you want, you can always set a bluetooth based proximity app May 17 19:16:25 still, there are ways May 17 19:16:39 but of course you have not to leave your n900 at someone's house May 17 19:16:40 also, linux has screen saver management that can automatically lock it May 17 19:16:58 bluetooth eats a lot and the bluetooth implementation in my laptop doesn't publish the signal strength and loses the signal sometimes even if 10cm from the device :/ May 17 19:17:27 i guess i need some BLE dongle and device or so May 17 19:17:33 nah May 17 19:17:36 just timer May 17 19:18:05 a timer is good enough for me May 17 19:18:08 nuh uh May 17 19:18:11 you blank the screen to save power May 17 19:18:18 wow, gta 3/4/vc/sa&ep package for 9eur on humble May 17 19:18:19 if you want to lock the screen, you lock the screen consciously May 17 19:18:26 at work i also have a special key of the keyboard configured to automatically lock it May 17 19:18:34 KotCzarny: does san andreas have all the original music May 17 19:18:36 too bad i dont like gta May 17 19:18:38 so whenever i have to get out, it's just one key to press May 17 19:18:44 ceene: as opposed to two? May 17 19:18:46 kerio, don't know, check yourself May 17 19:18:50 kerio: yes :P May 17 19:18:54 nice May 17 19:19:10 i have one of these keyboards with lots of multimedia keys that i don't use May 17 19:19:11 it's not even a bundle May 17 19:19:17 so one of them is configured to lock the screen May 17 19:19:24 thinkpads have big blue 'thinkpad' button May 17 19:19:27 Optifying usr/share/doc/applauncherd-launcher -> /opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/applauncherd-launcher May 17 19:19:29 mv: can't rename '/usr/share/doc/applauncherd-launcher': No such file or directory May 17 19:19:29 that's usually unused May 17 19:19:38 ye i use it for locking atm May 17 19:19:49 I still get this problem while updating/installing anything May 17 19:19:58 KotCzarny: where's the pack? May 17 19:20:03 i only see the individual games ._. May 17 19:20:18 kerio: go to rockstar sale menu May 17 19:20:28 https://www.humblebundle.com/store/promo/rockstar/ May 17 19:20:35 should be close to the top May 17 19:21:35 i mean May 17 19:21:42 i can't find gta 3 May 17 19:21:44 also, mind you, those humble deals arent' so top-promo, so most likely there will be nice steam sale May 17 19:21:53 kerio: ? May 17 19:21:55 but SA+VC+4 is 8€ May 17 19:21:57 it's in the bundle May 17 19:22:23 https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/gta3_storefront May 17 19:22:27 if you only need 3 May 17 19:22:32 i wasn't seeing that link .-. May 17 19:22:39 in fact, that link just brings me to /store May 17 19:22:46 ...i wonder if it's a geographical thing May 17 19:22:56 21:12 < L29Ah> and no one cares enough to adapt a new one for maemo May 17 19:22:59 maybe you missed BIGGER THATN USUAL May 17 19:23:01 sure some people do May 17 19:23:12 KotCzarny: that link literally redirects me to /store May 17 19:23:42 kerio, might be region promo then May 17 19:23:54 GTA 3 doesn't even appear in the store for me May 17 19:24:09 1.19eur for gta3 May 17 19:24:32 where's the bme-replacement source code repo? May 17 19:24:43 and ~8eur for the aforementioned big pack May 17 19:28:02 pixelboy looks nice May 17 19:28:25 action-rpg shoot-em-up May 17 19:28:54 L29Ah: gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bme-rx-51 May 17 19:29:02 dunno where the new home is May 17 19:29:25 anyway, nite nite May 17 19:30:27 Pali: I couldnt find bme-replacement on github ... has it moved some place else ? May 17 19:31:20 didn't gitorious shutdown or something May 17 19:31:53 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183 May 17 19:32:32 aha! I installed all the packages. May 17 19:32:37 One by one. :P May 17 19:32:49 Pali: do I need to restart now. May 17 19:32:58 I just installed bme-replacement May 17 19:33:20 yes after installation is restart needed May 17 19:33:36 :) May 17 19:33:57 Pali: it'd be awesome if you put the new url for the repos to http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement after you move away from gitorious May 17 19:34:23 ok, I will update it later... May 17 19:36:04 * princefakhan is gonna restart his phone now May 17 19:36:15 bb in 5 guys. May 17 19:45:49 so bme-replacement has bugs? it isn't in cssu yet. May 17 19:53:21 Pali: I did find it on gitorious ... but weren't we supposed to migrate stuff ? :) May 17 19:53:43 bencoh: gitorious is in R/O mode... May 17 19:53:52 yea May 17 19:53:54 and until I need to modify it, I do not need to migrate repos... May 17 19:54:08 hm, that's one way to look at it May 17 19:54:32 :) May 17 20:04:48 routing on Nokia Maps (N900) does work offline. Only Search absolutely needs connection. May 17 20:04:57 ceene: ^ May 17 20:06:28 btw, regarding Yappari status, my contacts still don't see it (although now it does 'stick' in Yappari) May 17 20:08:40 for Maps, unfortunately i have found all the applications unsuited to my use, so i only use Ovi maps. With the voice-assist hack, works nicely for me :) May 17 20:10:21 voice-assist? :o May 17 20:10:35 lol, ok. voice-guidance May 17 20:10:51 with nokia maps? May 17 20:10:52 neat May 17 20:11:07 Sicelo: then your contacts are really strange people! :p :( May 17 20:11:25 Pali: do you run your maemo on linux-4? May 17 20:11:27 it must be that some WA versions need something else... May 17 20:11:29 i don't know May 17 20:11:30 yes. involves replacing the maps index.html .. and downloading te nokia voice files. but works perfectly May 17 20:11:32 er, 3.18 May 17 20:11:40 no, I did not try maemo on linux 4 yet... May 17 20:12:05 Sicelo: how does the voice work on maps? May 17 20:12:08 i didn't know about that May 17 20:12:21 Pali: ↑ May 17 20:12:36 3.12 working somehow... May 17 20:12:37 search for Blaizen on tmo .. he's the one who masterminded the whole thing May 17 20:12:47 what's broken? May 17 20:12:48 => can boot May 17 20:12:55 see elinux.org/N900 May 17 20:12:56 i chose the method which uses a voice server May 17 20:12:58 lot of stuff May 17 20:13:06 ah, there's even a wiki May 17 20:16:37 Sicelo: marbe has voice assistance afaict May 17 20:17:52 i struggle with offline maps on all of these applications. maybe it's pebkac, but... May 17 20:18:21 offline maps work out of the box, offline routing works by installing monav May 17 20:18:47 the problem with marble May 17 20:18:48 is osm May 17 20:18:53 offline search ... isn't really intuitive but it does work (fuzzy search is online only) May 17 20:18:59 i can't find my street May 17 20:19:04 and i live in the city May 17 20:19:27 because it has such a long and incredible name, i have to specify something like 1 thousand characteres for it to find my street May 17 20:19:44 even with (online) fuzzy search ? May 17 20:19:56 mmmmm i don't know May 17 20:20:01 it's a long time since i tried last time **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 18 02:59:59 2015