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Jun 18 04:47:44 <haasn> “Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel.”
Jun 18 04:48:59 <haasn> (It goes without saying, that this is a false positive)
Jun 18 04:49:39 <beford> that's what an spamer would say
Jun 18 04:50:14 <beford> I think chem|st is admin on the forums, maybe he can help
Jun 18 07:09:56 <sixwheeledbeast> Are you sure your not on Tor or Proxy on your IPv4. Search your IP for forum lists.
Jun 18 07:23:35 <KotCzarny> swb: that should be added to the info message on the page
Jun 18 08:51:51 <Sicelo> hey
Jun 18 08:53:51 <L29Ah> who do i poke for this forum "feature" to get disabled?
Jun 18 08:55:03 <bencoh> ?
Jun 18 08:55:44 <L29Ah> 07:47:44]<haasn> “Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel.”
Jun 18 08:56:10 <bencoh> oh, that
Jun 18 08:56:21 <L29Ah> i wonder why an anti-spam measure prevents even read-only access
Jun 18 08:56:30 <bencoh> yeah
Jun 18 09:04:24 <KotCzarny> i bet because its easier that way
Jun 18 09:04:27 <KotCzarny> for the admin
Jun 18 09:04:46 <L29Ah> nah, -j DROP is easier
Jun 18 09:04:55 <KotCzarny> web admin, not host admin
Jun 18 10:17:53 <ws> Q: I'm a newbie to n900. I tried installing symfonie and I get an error: Unable to install 'symfonie' \ Application packages missing: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra. In 'application catalogs' I only have maemo.org working, the remaining three default repositories are down ('Nokia Applications', 'Nokai System Software Updates' and 'Ovi').
Jun 18 10:18:51 <ws> ... how should I fix repositories (I tried to follow links from the first page of http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88707 )?
Jun 18 10:19:15 <KotCzarny> if you want audio player, try oscp
Jun 18 10:19:29 <KotCzarny> almost no deps, many features
Jun 18 10:19:50 <KotCzarny> as for the deps, you need to google for working ones
Jun 18 10:20:11 <ws> dziekuje [ thanks ]
Jun 18 10:20:21 <L29Ah> i wonder if it makes sense to plug an usb video card into n900
Jun 18 10:20:41 <L29Ah> composite video turns out to be horrible
Jun 18 10:21:06 <ws> KotCzarny:  the only feature I'm missing in the default player is directory-view rather than relying on mp3 meta tags with artist and album name, as they are not always present in my files
Jun 18 10:21:17 <KotCzarny> ws: you would love oscp then
Jun 18 10:21:38 <KotCzarny> either ncurses or pygtk interface
Jun 18 10:21:47 <KotCzarny> or even remote controllable
Jun 18 10:22:19 <ws> that's weird, I can't see it in 'application manager'
Jun 18 10:22:21 <KotCzarny> as for default player, you could also try omp (open media player)
Jun 18 10:22:29 <KotCzarny> its in extras-testing or -devel
Jun 18 10:26:55 <bencoh> I think a usb video card would suck too much resources
Jun 18 10:27:17 <ws> KotCzarny:  dziekuje, I will grab a coffee and figure a way to fix my mess with repos.
Jun 18 10:27:28 <Wizzup> 12:20 < L29Ah> i wonder if it makes sense to plug an usb video card into n900
Jun 18 10:27:34 <Wizzup> I am working on that
Jun 18 10:27:39 <L29Ah> huh?
Jun 18 10:27:40 <Wizzup> Or at least, have all the hardware here
Jun 18 10:27:50 <Wizzup> and usb host mode
Jun 18 10:27:57 <Wizzup> now I just need to get the driver(s) ready
Jun 18 10:28:11 <Wizzup> one of them was already in tree around 2.6.18 or so
Jun 18 10:28:15 <Wizzup> the other one requires a much newer driver
Jun 18 10:28:22 <bruce_lee> \(^_^)/ @all
Jun 18 10:28:24 <Wizzup> bencoh: resources, what ones exactly?
Jun 18 10:30:01 <L29Ah> i wonder what protocol could have been used to talk with a 640x480 lcd of some old video glasses that consume composite video
Jun 18 10:30:16 <KotCzarny> ws: you can just grab the oscp deb and install it
Jun 18 10:30:22 <KotCzarny> its very low on dependencies
Jun 18 10:31:11 <KotCzarny> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590
Jun 18 10:31:22 <KotCzarny> here is description page and also repo links
Jun 18 10:32:11 <KotCzarny> http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/non-free/o/oscp/
Jun 18 10:40:32 * Wizzup grep -c's KotCzarny messages on oscp
Jun 18 10:40:58 <L29Ah> :3
Jun 18 10:43:02 <Wizzup> L29Ah: the main thing usb vga is that I'd really prefer mainline kernel for it
Jun 18 10:43:21 <Wizzup> but then I first need to figure out usb host on mainline
Jun 18 10:52:37 <KotCzarny> what's wrong with using powerkernel?
Jun 18 10:53:49 <bruce_lee> how can I dump /home/user/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db?
Jun 18 10:54:03 <bruce_lee> I tried: db4.7_dump -k addressbook.db
Jun 18 10:54:12 <KotCzarny> maybe its sqlite
Jun 18 10:54:32 <bruce_lee> ok
Jun 18 11:01:59 <bruce_lee> this doesn't work: "sqlite3 db/addressbook.db .dump"
Jun 18 11:02:30 <ws> missing libao0, python-gtk2, python-dbus, I seriously need to fix repos
Jun 18 11:11:08 <KotCzarny> hmm
Jun 18 11:11:16 <KotCzarny> maybe that .db is a plain vcf?
Jun 18 11:11:24 <KotCzarny> open with text editor and check
Jun 18 11:11:54 <KotCzarny> ahm, no, 'prioprietary'
Jun 18 11:13:15 <KotCzarny> still, someone suggested you can extract vcf files contained there
Jun 18 11:13:48 <L29Ah> gunzip? (;
Jun 18 11:14:53 <bruce_lee> I can see in vi/vim things like: BEGIN:VCARD
Jun 18 11:15:14 <bruce_lee> data is available in editor, but it looks ugly!
Jun 18 11:15:49 <KotCzarny> write a script to extract everything between
Jun 18 11:16:17 <KotCzarny> should be fairly easy
Jun 18 11:17:21 <L29Ah> tar?
Jun 18 11:17:36 <bruce_lee> I have no syntax-highlighting when I use "vi/vim" through ssh
Jun 18 11:17:48 <KotCzarny> use mcedit?
Jun 18 11:17:53 <bruce_lee> when I use vim directly on the n900 syntax-highlighting works
Jun 18 11:18:08 <KotCzarny> check your TERM variable
Jun 18 11:18:39 <kerio> the n900's terminfo is probably ancient
Jun 18 11:18:41 <kerio> like everything else
Jun 18 11:18:47 <bruce_lee> echo $TERM returns "xterm-256color"
Jun 18 11:19:00 <kerio> bruce_lee: export TERM=xterm-color
Jun 18 11:19:10 <KotCzarny> and what terminal do you use?
Jun 18 11:19:12 <bruce_lee> I asked this already yesterday in #vim
Jun 18 11:19:24 <KotCzarny> plain xterm could already work
Jun 18 11:19:32 <kerio> plain xterm doesn't support colors
Jun 18 11:19:40 <bruce_lee> the guys there tried their best, but couldn't help me...
Jun 18 11:19:41 <kerio> so any program outputting colors when TERM=xterm is wrong
Jun 18 11:20:04 <kerio> i'm not sure what's the TERM in osso-xterm
Jun 18 11:20:06 <kerio> possibly vte?
Jun 18 11:20:11 <KotCzarny> he is using ssh
Jun 18 11:20:15 <bruce_lee> wow! great!
Jun 18 11:20:17 <bruce_lee> it works!
Jun 18 11:20:19 <bruce_lee> thank you!
Jun 18 11:20:37 <bruce_lee> btw., I'm using "terminator" as terminal
Jun 18 11:25:23 <KotCzarny> n900's TERM is 'xterm'
Jun 18 11:50:19 <xkr47> rxvt-unicode-256colors ftw
Jun 18 11:50:34 <KotCzarny> rxvt is shorter
Jun 18 11:50:36 <KotCzarny> :)
Jun 18 11:50:43 <L29Ah> they all suck :P
Jun 18 11:51:03 <bencoh> urxvt <3
Jun 18 11:52:06 <bencoh> but the original xterm is more intersting on n900 (because of the char sequences / keystrokes / "gestures" remapping)
Jun 18 11:52:27 <bencoh> (and osso-xterm just sucks :)
Jun 18 13:38:55 <merlin1991> st !
Jun 18 13:39:33 <merlin1991> for those who don't know what I'm talking about: http://st.suckless.org/
Jun 18 13:39:41 <bencoh> :-)
Jun 18 13:40:03 <bencoh> no remap unfortunately
Jun 18 13:40:09 <bencoh> I'd have moved to it on maemo
Jun 18 13:40:40 <merlin1991> what do you mean with remap?
Jun 18 13:40:41 <bencoh> (although I guess I could patch it :)
Jun 18 13:41:21 <bencoh> stuff to remap KP_enter, home/end, mouse actions (copypaste and the likes)
Jun 18 13:41:50 <merlin1991> ah well it's a suckless
Jun 18 13:41:55 <merlin1991> so that mapping is compiled in
Jun 18 13:42:11 <merlin1991> you'd have to adjust one header and rebbuild
Jun 18 13:42:16 <bencoh> yeah :)
Jun 18 13:43:12 <merlin1991> I was thinking about building a hildonized st
Jun 18 13:43:26 <bencoh> what about the hildonization ?
Jun 18 13:43:38 <merlin1991> well menu bar for copy and paste :D
Jun 18 13:43:46 <bencoh> oh, that
Jun 18 13:44:03 <merlin1991> and the dbus handling so it can be opened properly and stuff
Jun 18 13:44:05 <bencoh> select to yank, 2nd+click to paste :)
Jun 18 13:44:27 <merlin1991> not very posix ;)
Jun 18 13:44:47 <bencoh> ?
Jun 18 13:45:12 <merlin1991> there has been a patch quite recently for st that finally cleaned up the select -> selection buffer and copy -> clipboard thing
Jun 18 13:45:26 <bencoh> it works with both primary and clipboard (for xterm at least)
Jun 18 13:46:58 <merlin1991> hm okay march 10 is quite recently :D
Jun 18 13:46:58 <merlin1991> http://git.suckless.org/st/commit/?id=28259f5750f0dc7f52bbaf8b746ec3dc576a58ee
Jun 18 13:48:09 <bencoh> :)
Jun 18 13:48:36 <bencoh> here I use clipboard because of gtk
Jun 18 13:48:51 <bencoh> (I cant paste primary selection into qt/gtk apps)
Jun 18 13:49:02 <bencoh> since we have no middle button
Jun 18 13:49:10 <merlin1991> wat?
Jun 18 13:49:39 <bencoh> how do you define a middle mouse button on maemo/n900 ? :)
Jun 18 13:49:52 <merlin1991> ah so that's what you meant by here :D
Jun 18 13:50:00 <bencoh> yeah :)
Jun 18 13:51:32 * L29Ah has a binding in xbindkeys to swap primary and clipboard
Jun 18 13:52:45 <bencoh> xbindkey doesnt sleep properly iirc
Jun 18 13:53:11 <bencoh> (and I didnt want to rewrite the event-handling)
Jun 18 13:53:43 <L29Ah> i'd see it in powertop if it wasn't sleeping, no?
Jun 18 13:53:54 <L29Ah> on a laptop i dont see it
Jun 18 13:55:52 <bencoh> I remember not being happy with it, I dont remember to which extent :)
Jun 18 13:56:19 <bencoh> and iirc it showed in powertop/n900
Jun 18 13:56:23 <bencoh> somehow
Jun 18 14:49:51 <sixwheeledbeast> ~pkg
Jun 18 14:49:51 <infobot> well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/
Jun 18 15:16:07 <sixwheeledbeast> KotCzarny: I suppose, techstaff would have to do that.
Jun 18 15:17:27 <sixwheeledbeast> L29Ah: to protect our ageing infra. (re: anti-spam)
Jun 18 15:18:20 <L29Ah> wat
Jun 18 15:18:42 <L29Ah> ddos over Tor? :D
Jun 18 15:20:06 <sixwheeledbeast> ws: media player on N900 uses the tracker to index your stuff, if you don't like that then you will have to try a different media player. Or open your files from a file manager like hamsterfiler for example.
Jun 18 15:23:27 <bencoh> (hamsterfile <3 by the way)
Jun 18 15:24:21 <sixwheeledbeast> bruce_lee: I believe the .db is berkeley not sqlite
Jun 18 15:28:14 <sixwheeledbeast> L29Ah: most Tor IP's are in the forum spam blacklist.
Jun 18 15:29:12 <sixwheeledbeast> Well exit nodes anyway
Jun 18 15:29:41 <L29Ah> what's the problem with read-only access?
Jun 18 15:30:21 <sixwheeledbeast> L29Ah: I spoke to techstaff and they prefer not to do that
Jun 18 15:32:59 <bencoh> hm, why ?
Jun 18 15:33:22 <sixwheeledbeast> Our infra is old, there was a thread on TMO about it IIRC. I also asked about a captcha.
Jun 18 15:34:05 <bencoh> we already have a captcha
Jun 18 15:34:15 <bencoh> (?!)
Jun 18 15:34:28 <sixwheeledbeast> Currently there blocked at Apache and that is the 403 message
Jun 18 15:34:57 <sixwheeledbeast> captcha for registering users I believe.
Jun 18 15:35:43 <sixwheeledbeast> I meant instead of 403ing the IP blacklist send them via a captcha.
Jun 18 15:37:04 <L29Ah> it doesn't ask me whether i'm a registered user when i get 403
Jun 18 15:37:05 <bencoh> oh
Jun 18 15:40:53 <sixwheeledbeast> Not when you are registering on TMO I believe there is a captcha. That's it. 
Jun 18 15:41:07 <sixwheeledbeast> s/Not/No/
Jun 18 15:41:07 <infobot> sixwheeledbeast meant: No when you are registering on TMO I believe there is a captcha. That's it. 
Jun 18 15:42:09 <sixwheeledbeast> So you can't even login, you hit the 403 first and would have to change your IP.
Jun 18 15:57:04 <Elleo> 27
Jun 18 15:57:06 <Elleo> oops
Jun 18 16:23:37 <sixwheeledbeast> 42
Jun 18 16:45:32 <bruce_lee> my "ctrl-key" doesn't work as expected in bash using ssh, but it works in vi/vim using ssh
Jun 18 16:45:33 <bruce_lee> anybody a hint?
Jun 18 16:46:16 <bruce_lee> the delete-key doesn't work in shell either but in vi
Jun 18 16:46:39 <bruce_lee> it's a nokia n900....
Jun 18 18:12:08 <bruce_lee> I'm a victim of a bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7944
Jun 18 18:12:10 <povbot> 04Bug 7944: utilities infocmp, tic, tput etc not installed though busybox provides ncurses-bin
Jun 18 18:12:34 <bruce_lee> there is it says: "Fixed in busybox 3:1.20-0.1+0m7, but I cannot provide any diff"
Jun 18 18:13:11 <bruce_lee> I can't find that version on:  http://maemo.org/packages/view/busybox/
Jun 18 18:13:35 <bruce_lee> how can I find that version of busybox?
Jun 18 18:38:01 <RzR> hi can u tell me how to setup maemo irc cloak ?
Jun 18 18:39:56 <bruce_lee> RzR: I don't know, but if you're using irssi you have better chances at #irssi
Jun 18 18:42:28 <RzR> florian, juice is
Jun 18 18:43:06 <RzR> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94739&highlight=cloaks# juiceme requested cloaks for all Council members
Jun 18 18:45:12 <RzR> chem|st, ?
Jun 18 18:45:40 <RzR> warfare, ??
Jun 18 19:10:16 <KotCzarny> merlin1991: i prefer mrxvt (rxvt for all around features, and m for multiple tabs)
Jun 18 19:52:33 <merlin1991> ~battery
Jun 18 19:52:34 <infobot> it has been said that battery is made by Danionics http://www.danionics.com/products/icphh02.asp, or at http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/questions.html#AEN744
Jun 18 19:52:38 <merlin1991> hm
Jun 18 19:52:43 <merlin1991> looking for the status script
Jun 18 19:53:42 <kerio> the what
Jun 18 19:54:23 <merlin1991> the bq27k-detail something script from joerg
Jun 18 20:00:21 <bencoh> bq27000.sh ?
Jun 18 20:00:39 <bencoh> err, bq27200.sh
Jun 18 20:00:43 <merlin1991> yep
Jun 18 20:01:04 <bencoh> it's from ShadowJK 
Jun 18 20:01:26 <bencoh> unless you mean http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/jrbme/bq27200
Jun 18 20:02:00 <bencoh> http://enivax.net/jk/n900/
Jun 18 20:09:44 <Sicelo> RzR: i thought cloak auto-sets when you identify. afaik it's not client-side, but server-side
Jun 18 20:12:57 <RzR> yea I got an unafiliated one since
Jun 18 20:13:36 <bencoh> yeah it's server-side
Jun 18 21:23:42 <chem|st> RzR: so what?
Jun 18 21:25:02 <chem|st> you want a cloak a day before your term end will be announced (or is that on ML already?)
Jun 18 21:25:41 <chem|st> RzR: but thanks for the reminder, I need to go through the list and update those access lists and cloaks...
Jun 18 21:58:55 <{-O-}> help please, had blessn900 set to sd card and photos wont open, i can see the files in /media/mmc1/DCIM but they wont open. Any hope of recovering them?
Jun 18 22:11:58 <KotCzarny> check on pc
Jun 18 22:28:25 <{-O-}> thanks, will do when i get home (first 3 days of holiday snaps)
Jun 18 22:29:03 <{-O-}> otherwise the n900 is a star 
Jun 18 22:30:02 <{-O-}> ttfn, gotta make battery last till tomo and my next charge!
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