**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 17 02:59:58 2015 Jul 17 06:03:34 KotCzarny: yeah. I got REW for pc Jul 17 08:52:39 * Maxdamantus wonders if the cellular connectivity on his ThinkPad is likely to be better than typical phones. Jul 17 08:52:48 depends Jul 17 08:52:57 but usually you can put better antenna Jul 17 08:53:30 * Maxdamantus sometimes goes somewhere that doesn't have proper coverage. Jul 17 08:53:55 grab some external one, maybe Jul 17 08:53:57 but can usually send/receive SMS while walking along the beach. Jul 17 08:54:05 (on a phone) Jul 17 08:54:08 or just usb gsm stick with usb extension cord Jul 17 08:54:38 * L29Ah uses an android phone to feed his thinkpad with 3g internet Jul 17 08:56:08 http://it.slashdot.org/story/15/06/29/1533204/mit-system-fixes-software-bugs-without-access-to-source-code Jul 17 08:56:15 something for maemo ;) Jul 17 08:57:26 wtf am i reading Jul 17 09:11:13 remember that joke? http://science.slashdot.org/story/15/06/26/0021241/students-win-prize-for-color-changing-condoms-that-detect-stds Jul 17 09:11:22 now it can be a reality :> Jul 17 10:17:53 uhm Jul 17 10:18:55 i think i'll have a complete mirror of downloads.maemo.nokia.com made public soon Jul 17 10:20:15 although Jul 17 10:20:22 now I have something wrong with maemo.org repos Jul 17 10:20:23 :/ Jul 17 10:24:51 ~sources.list Jul 17 10:24:51 If you have problems adding unofficial sites to sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list Jul 17 10:25:00 i don't like that Jul 17 10:25:01 ~apt Jul 17 10:25:02 rumour has it, apt is a stuild bot, said by Cotulla Jul 17 10:25:12 ~maemo.org Jul 17 10:29:51 ceene, which platform? n8x0 or n900? Jul 17 10:30:00 n900 Jul 17 10:30:47 uh, i think i got it right now, there's simply no such thing as only http://repository.maemo.org Jul 17 10:30:53 deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ . Jul 17 10:30:53 deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 10:30:53 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle free non-free Jul 17 10:30:53 deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free Jul 17 10:30:56 those are mine Jul 17 10:30:56 it's http://repository.maemo.org/extras Jul 17 10:31:03 yep Jul 17 10:31:07 that's what i broke Jul 17 10:31:09 thank you! Jul 17 10:31:25 i'm preparing a mirror like that mirrors.muarf.org Jul 17 10:31:54 maybe maemo.org admins can prepare roundrobin dns Jul 17 10:32:27 so it could use all those public nokia copies Jul 17 10:35:53 http://repository.sygic.com went down too :( Jul 17 10:42:12 bencoh, ping Jul 17 11:03:44 ~repos Jul 17 11:03:44 it has been said that repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:04:03 infobot: repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jul 17 11:04:03 KotCzarny: okay Jul 17 11:04:05 ~repos Jul 17 11:04:05 hmm... repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:04:22 infobot: no, repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jul 17 11:04:22 i already had it that way, KotCzarny Jul 17 11:04:29 o.o Jul 17 11:04:39 infobot: ~repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jul 17 11:04:39 KotCzarny: okay Jul 17 11:04:43 ~repos Jul 17 11:04:43 methinks repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:04:56 how do i use that thing? Jul 17 11:06:42 infobot: obey KotCzarny Jul 17 11:07:20 it ignored you too Jul 17 11:08:08 :( Jul 17 11:08:16 infobot: KotCzarny is a friend Jul 17 11:08:17 ceene: okay Jul 17 11:08:22 lol Jul 17 11:08:24 ~KotCzarny Jul 17 11:08:24 well, kotczarny is a friend Jul 17 11:08:30 infobot: KotCzarny is a good friend Jul 17 11:08:31 ...but kotczarny is already something else... Jul 17 11:08:36 uhm Jul 17 11:08:36 ~ceene Jul 17 11:08:49 infobot: KotCzarny is a good friend Jul 17 11:08:49 ...but kotczarny is already something else... Jul 17 11:08:53 infobot: really, KotCzarny is a good friend Jul 17 11:08:53 ceene: what are you talking about? Jul 17 11:09:00 infobot: modify KotCzarny is a good friend Jul 17 11:09:00 ceene: okay Jul 17 11:09:05 ~KotCzarny Jul 17 11:09:05 hmm... kotczarny is a friend Jul 17 11:09:18 infobot: you're not very intelligent, are you? Jul 17 11:09:19 no *you're* not very intelligent, are you Jul 17 11:09:22 lol Jul 17 11:09:46 ~modify Jul 17 11:09:51 ~modify KotCzarny Jul 17 11:09:52 from memory, modify kotczarny is a good friend Jul 17 11:09:57 ~infobot Jul 17 11:09:57 it has been said that infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command! Jul 17 11:10:02 ~help Jul 17 11:10:38 repos is at http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jul 17 11:10:41 ~repos Jul 17 11:10:41 hmm... repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:11:07 ~delete repos Jul 17 11:11:08 * infobot glares at repos and then takes every step necessary to completely delete repos and destroy any and all evidence that repos ever existed Jul 17 11:11:13 ~factinfo repos Jul 17 11:11:13 error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) Jul 17 11:11:13 repos -- created by KotCzarny <~ariel@bgg35.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> 7m 11s ago. Jul 17 11:11:21 ~repos Jul 17 11:11:22 well, repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:12:04 this thing must have something hardcoded Jul 17 11:12:17 looks like Jul 17 11:12:24 also, you need +o for some actions Jul 17 11:12:50 maemo-repos is at http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jul 17 11:12:54 ~maemo-repos Jul 17 11:13:14 infobot: maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jul 17 11:13:14 KotCzarny: okay Jul 17 11:13:16 ~maemo-repos Jul 17 11:13:17 i heard maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jul 17 11:13:22 good enough. Jul 17 11:20:57 lol Jul 17 11:21:02 ~repos Jul 17 11:21:03 [repos] deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:21:06 ~forget repos Jul 17 11:21:07 ceene: i forgot repos Jul 17 11:21:10 ~repos Jul 17 11:21:23 ~repos Jul 17 11:21:24 hmm... repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:21:26 bah Jul 17 11:54:58 ~repos Jul 17 11:54:59 rumour has it, repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 11:55:09 ooh Jul 17 11:57:28 ~listvalues muarf Jul 17 11:57:30 Factoid search of 'muarf' by value (1): #maemo repos. Jul 17 12:00:14 ~literal repos Jul 17 12:00:14 "#maemo repos" is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./" Jul 17 12:00:39 ~no, #maemo repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 12:00:51 infobot: no, #maemo repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 17 12:00:51 DocScrutinizer05: i already had it that way Jul 17 12:00:59 ~botsnack Jul 17 12:00:59 DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee Jul 17 12:02:43 ~literal _default repos Jul 17 12:03:13 ~listkeys repos Jul 17 12:03:15 Factoid search of 'repos' by key (13): ~repos ;; repository.maemo.org deb ;; repositories ;; repositary ;; repos #DEL# ;; pureftpd repository ;; repository lists ;; maemo-repos ;; repository #DEL# ;; #maemo repos ;; qtopia repository ;; elive-repository ;; debian repos howto. Jul 17 12:03:42 i think it needs rewiring Jul 17 12:03:47 or electro shock Jul 17 12:03:54 ~literal repository.maemo.org deb Jul 17 12:03:54 "repository.maemo.org deb" is "unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb" Jul 17 12:04:09 ~forget repository.maemo.org deb Jul 17 12:04:09 DocScrutinizer05: i forgot repository.maemo.org deb Jul 17 12:04:43 err Jul 17 12:04:57 ~unforget repository.maemo.org deb Jul 17 12:04:57 DocScrutinizer05: Successfully recovered 'repository.maemo.org deb'. Have fun now. Jul 17 12:05:29 ~literal repositary Jul 17 12:05:29 "repositary" is "no longer up to date.. I haven't yet set up mirroring.." Jul 17 12:05:42 ~forget repositary Jul 17 12:05:43 DocScrutinizer05: i forgot repositary Jul 17 12:05:43 hehe Jul 17 12:06:30 ~literal maemo-repository Jul 17 12:06:39 ~literal maemo-repos Jul 17 12:06:39 "maemo-repos" is "http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories" Jul 17 12:06:51 infobot: foo is bar Jul 17 12:06:51 * infobot foo! || bar is bar || foo is bar bar || foo Jul 17 12:07:19 bar bar? Jul 17 12:09:36 ~forget modify KotCzarny Jul 17 12:09:36 i forgot modify kotczarny, DocScrutinizer05 Jul 17 12:10:00 ~forget KotCzarny Jul 17 12:10:00 DocScrutinizer05: i forgot kotczarny Jul 17 12:10:11 ~forget DocScrutinizer05 Jul 17 12:10:11 L29Ah: cannot alter locked factoids Jul 17 12:10:23 ~DocScrutinizer05 Jul 17 12:10:23 it has been said that docscrutinizer is jOERG, a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko Jul 17 12:12:46 ~factinfo foo is bar Jul 17 12:12:46 DocScrutinizer05: there's no such factoid as foo is bar Jul 17 12:12:56 ~factinfo foo is Jul 17 12:12:56 there's no such factoid as foo is, DocScrutinizer05 Jul 17 12:13:07 ~factinfo foo Jul 17 12:13:07 error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) Jul 17 12:13:07 foo -- last modified at Tue Dec 12 21:09:39 2006 by do3mca_!i=many@krikkit.ukeer.de; it has been requested 54 times, last by Ashley` at Tue Dec 31 09:16:40 2013. Jul 17 12:13:25 ~literal foo Jul 17 12:13:25 "foo" is "bar" Jul 17 12:13:32 ~literal foo is Jul 17 12:13:32 * infobot foo! || bar is || foo is bar || foo Jul 17 12:13:43 hardwired Jul 17 12:59:30 KotCzarny: pong ? Jul 17 13:28:03 is it a good idea to connect a simple dc-dc converter (3.6 or 3.7V and max about 70 ampere) as n900 battery with only + and - pin? Jul 17 13:28:17 just for flash the device! Jul 17 13:29:45 a couple years ago i done this technique in motorola because i got no charge cable :D but i done with battery and 5V. working well that time Jul 17 13:30:31 not sure about n900. somebody told me bl-5j battery wants a pulsed charge source Jul 17 13:31:54 DerHat: I've tried that before Jul 17 13:32:04 It wasn't an adjustable source, but it met the "requirements" so to speak Jul 17 13:32:10 It turned on, but never booted properly. Jul 17 13:32:15 Didn't hurt it though. Jul 17 13:32:20 It was when I was without a battery Jul 17 13:32:56 did u tryed with battery? Jul 17 13:33:01 DerHat: you can connect it in parallel with the battery Jul 17 13:33:27 and make sure its output voltage is no more than Vbat + 200mV Jul 17 13:33:56 L29Ah: THX! THATS I WANT SINCE MY USB PORT IS BROKEN Jul 17 13:34:08 :/ i measured Vbat == 2.8V Jul 17 13:34:23 yesterday i read 3.4 Jul 17 13:34:29 then gradually go up Jul 17 13:34:36 as it charges Jul 17 13:34:52 ok Jul 17 13:35:12 just make sure you don't push over an ampere of current Jul 17 13:35:26 well, + to batteries + and same -? Jul 17 13:35:30 yep Jul 17 13:35:36 no problem, i got variable resistors:P Jul 17 13:38:25 i think someone said you need to connect resistance to middle pin if you want to fake 'battery' Jul 17 13:38:53 interesting. Jul 17 13:39:43 DerHat: (dc-dc converter) not really. You need at least 4V, proper absolutely secure regulation, low ESR (thick cables) connection, and a resistor from BSI contact to GND Jul 17 13:39:52 rasp pi could perfectly be a n900 loader, it has got a 3.7V gpio and never go about 1 amp Jul 17 13:40:17 DocScrutinizer my dc-dc is variable from 1.5 to 40V Jul 17 13:40:38 that's a problem when it istn't rock solid stable Jul 17 13:41:07 nah i charged liion batteries with a crappy chinese lab psu and it went well Jul 17 13:41:11 could a large capacitor help? Jul 17 13:41:24 no unless it's larger than your n900 Jul 17 13:41:29 it needs to guarantee the the voltage never exceeds 4.200 Volt (ok device might survive a 6V even) Jul 17 13:42:14 a large capacitor next to the battery contact for sure helps - large here is in the range of several 1000uF Jul 17 13:42:19 he doesn't need to get even close to 4.2 Jul 17 13:42:26 umkay, got the otg cable for n800, time for some tests Jul 17 13:42:35 DocScrutinizer i can guarantee 4.1V and 0.01V accuracy. is that enougth? Jul 17 13:42:43 yes, perfect Jul 17 13:43:14 you need a 75kR (iirc) from BSI to GND Jul 17 13:43:31 kR? Jul 17 13:43:36 kilo ohm Jul 17 13:43:38 kilo Ohms Jul 17 13:43:41 ok, bsi? Jul 17 13:43:52 Battery size Indicator Jul 17 13:43:55 you don't need it if you're leaving your battery in Jul 17 13:44:03 okay, understood all now:) Jul 17 13:44:19 humm Jul 17 13:44:21 thx very much ^^ Jul 17 13:44:25 the shorter 3rd contact on N900 Jul 17 13:44:54 first try, failed to connect Jul 17 13:45:47 second try, same Jul 17 13:46:02 huh? Jul 17 13:46:03 anyone knows if i need some special magic for n800 host mode usb? Jul 17 13:46:20 you need usb hostmode Jul 17 13:46:23 app Jul 17 13:46:28 for example, if i need power adaptor connected Jul 17 13:46:40 several apps have a toggle for enabling hostmode Jul 17 13:47:27 [root@Nokia-N800-43-7:/sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc]# cat mode Jul 17 13:47:27 b_idle Jul 17 13:48:07 KotCzarny: I don't know what it takes to enable hostmode on N800, simply use one of the apps available Jul 17 13:48:37 it should work automagically with os2008 kernel Jul 17 13:48:37 N8x0 doesn't detect USB ID pin GND to switch to host mode automatically, afaik Jul 17 13:48:40 trying forcing Jul 17 13:49:13 [91630.039062] hub 1-0:1.0: 192mA power budget left Jul 17 13:49:14 wow Jul 17 13:49:49 fricking autosuspend Jul 17 13:50:17 also, n800 rebooted Jul 17 13:51:01 [91630.039062] usb 1-1: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power Jul 17 13:51:03 humm Jul 17 13:51:16 time for some kernel hacking Jul 17 13:51:29 hihi, check H-E-N Jul 17 13:51:50 we kicked that stuff out with the huge boot Jul 17 13:52:22 that's OTG stuff not really helpful for generic hostmode Jul 17 13:52:28 h-e-n? Jul 17 13:52:33 ~hen Jul 17 13:52:33 from memory, hen is hostmode-easy-now, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232, or see ~hostmode Jul 17 13:53:37 there's a blacklist and a whitelist, plus that generic power budget stuff, in OTG kernel modules Jul 17 13:53:39 but it's n800 Jul 17 13:54:06 so? the kernel's OTG stuff prolly doesn't differ Jul 17 13:54:24 k, just thought there is some kernel patching needed Jul 17 13:54:42 exactly, and we did that for N900 H-E-N Jul 17 13:55:04 see garage H-E-N hostmode kernel Jul 17 13:55:07 k, do you have some n800 specific hints/patches then? Jul 17 13:55:56 sorry nope Jul 17 13:57:10 I just know we seen same problem on N900. And I seem to recall I used e.g. kbd on N810 without any problems, just needs switching to hostmode with some settings app, tehre are at least 2 or 3 Jul 17 13:57:39 afk, cheers Jul 17 13:57:47 i';ve switched to host mode ok, it's just that usb config rejected the device as it 'needs' 500mA in config Jul 17 13:57:56 yet it draws ~30mA in reality Jul 17 13:58:55 yes, and that's exactly what I instructed mohammadAG to comment out one line of code in kernel (or change a '1' to '0' or sth) to skip that stuff Jul 17 13:59:12 yeah, going to do the same, just hope i wont need to reflash Jul 17 14:00:07 check the H-E-N hostmode kernel patches, you'll find it there Jul 17 14:00:16 will do Jul 17 14:00:17 DocScrutinizer one more question, should i start with 4.1V or lower? Jul 17 14:00:22 if i find them Jul 17 14:00:27 4V1 is fine Jul 17 14:00:30 ok Jul 17 14:00:53 unless you connect battery in parallel, sth I strongly discourage you to do Jul 17 14:01:43 idea, group project to make dummy 'batteries' to run exclusively on external power (n8x0 and n900) Jul 17 14:02:23 piece of plastic + regulator from ~5V to 3.7V + 75kR resistor Jul 17 14:05:07 + usb port and/or charger (barrel) port Jul 17 14:05:20 DocScrutinizer i connected and forgot resistance, it was like a short circuit :S Jul 17 14:05:45 wrong pins? did you fry it? Jul 17 14:06:01 fry? no pins was correct, + on + and - on - Jul 17 14:06:41 http://fressgsm.blogspot.com/2014/09/n900-charging-ways-solution-100-tested.html Jul 17 14:06:42 O.o Jul 17 14:06:47 no fry, dc-dc converter just shows 1V when i short it Jul 17 14:22:49 wow, n800 has usb2 hostcontroller Jul 17 14:26:56 n800 is the old n900? Jul 17 14:26:59 or a newer versionß Jul 17 14:27:08 it's a different animal Jul 17 14:27:14 but yes, it's the predecessor Jul 17 14:27:33 can you say something about nokia lumia 920? Jul 17 14:27:49 or suggest a other new phone for me?:D Jul 17 14:27:50 never touched any lumia Jul 17 14:27:59 maybe cubot ^^ Jul 17 14:28:07 as for the suggestions, what do you need the 'phone' for Jul 17 14:28:07 under water + metal case Jul 17 14:28:15 for phoning Jul 17 14:28:26 programming Jul 17 14:28:29 listen music Jul 17 14:28:41 watch some p0rn Jul 17 14:28:52 define programming Jul 17 14:29:27 tools e.g. send commands to network Jul 17 14:29:39 gles games Jul 17 14:31:04 e.g. is a short for "for example" am i right? ^^ Jul 17 14:31:56 https://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/e.g.html Jul 17 14:32:22 thx:D Jul 17 14:55:48 charging with 180mA 4.1V Jul 17 14:56:19 ampere is getting lower, 160 now Jul 17 14:58:49 wow, battery in my n-gage still holds charge Jul 17 14:58:57 even after 10 years Jul 17 14:59:03 for 5 minutes though? Jul 17 14:59:14 nope, booted fully Jul 17 14:59:22 and still shows 3 bars Jul 17 14:59:44 nice Jul 17 14:59:51 sounds like nokia quality:P Jul 17 14:59:56 yeah, bluestar battery :P Jul 17 14:59:57 or sony Jul 17 15:00:20 ok, i lied, battery was produced in 2010 Jul 17 15:00:34 but still, it was laying on the shelf for a few years Jul 17 15:00:38 5 years Jul 17 15:00:44 20 cat-years^^ Jul 17 15:01:12 last recorded sms on it is from 2010-11 Jul 17 15:01:34 so still, battery holding ~40% charge without self-discharging? Jul 17 15:01:50 if it was full, it's okay Jul 17 15:01:57 memory effect? Jul 17 15:02:08 fuck you and your memory effect on liions Jul 17 15:02:21 no memory effect on liions? Jul 17 15:02:26 yep Jul 17 15:02:27 yeah, it brings memories Jul 17 15:02:46 memory effect is a feature of NiCd and some NiMH Jul 17 15:03:33 l29ah, liions have aging effect on their own Jul 17 15:03:42 anyone know how many ampere n900 need for show nokia logo? Jul 17 15:03:49 yep, but they preserve quite well if stay mid-charged Jul 17 15:04:12 my thinkpad battery from 2010 is ~75% of its original capacity Jul 17 15:04:20 and i used it quite a lot Jul 17 15:04:21 derhat, charge for one hour Jul 17 15:04:30 at least Jul 17 15:04:40 i charge 12h ^^ Jul 17 15:04:55 don't everdo Jul 17 15:04:58 DerHat: i guess <500mA Jul 17 15:05:05 your batteries are already beaten up Jul 17 15:05:28 i must say, n-gage's keyboard rulez Jul 17 15:05:32 * L29Ah succeded to go over an amp only when used n900 for compiling Jul 17 15:05:56 :D Jul 17 15:10:56 hmmm https://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/ Jul 17 15:11:06 "The repositories will soon be available for read-only access, with original clone URLs preserved." Jul 17 15:11:13 which means they're currently not available :( Jul 17 15:11:33 (some repositories havent been migrated yet) Jul 17 15:11:34 ahm, bencoh, i remember what i wanted to ask, you don't mind muarf being put on the wiki? Jul 17 15:12:19 and question no2, would you host diablo repo too? Jul 17 15:47:59 Kernel flashed, reboot to make it active. Jul 17 15:48:03 fingers crossed Jul 17 15:50:05 Linux Nokia-N800-43-7 2.6.21-omap1 #4 Fri Jul 17 17:39:03 CEST 2015 armv6l unknown Jul 17 15:50:08 so far, so good Jul 17 15:50:17 lets see if usb whitelist worked Jul 17 15:50:42 allah akbar Jul 17 15:51:20 l29ah: sploding much? Jul 17 15:52:08 yeah, i have a liion battery belt Jul 17 15:52:48 [ 233.289062] input: USB AUDIO as /class/input/input5 Jul 17 15:52:55 [ 233.289062] usb 1-1: 500mA is over 200mA budget for port 1! Jul 17 15:52:55 [ 233.289062] hub 1-0:1.0: 300mA over power budget! Jul 17 15:52:56 hue hue Jul 17 15:59:16 WOW Jul 17 15:59:18 it works Jul 17 15:59:20 muahahaha Jul 17 16:01:55 i can confirm that usb audio works on n800 Jul 17 16:01:57 :) Jul 17 16:02:00 in alsa mode Jul 17 16:02:44 though alsa installation is b0rken badly Jul 17 16:10:50 vectis: i got the usb audio working Jul 17 16:10:51 :) Jul 17 16:11:05 sort of Jul 17 16:11:55 Cool, just on my way home from work. Jul 17 16:12:11 no worries, i'm hacking at castrated alsa on my n800 Jul 17 16:21:37 what is happening to the internet? Jul 17 16:21:41 Error 520 Jul 17 16:21:43 Web server is returning an unknown error Jul 17 16:28:44 For the uninitiated, pulse stands for Jul 17 16:28:44 "painfully useless linux sound engineers" Jul 17 16:28:46 hue hue Jul 17 16:30:08 arf arf, you still hacking away at it Jul 17 16:30:21 yeah, reading lists about the errors Jul 17 16:30:30 ie. trying to make mixer to work Jul 17 16:30:40 hmm Jul 17 16:30:46 mplayer works tho Jul 17 16:31:33 great, i've just got home so i'll get things setup in a while Jul 17 16:31:59 no rush, i got me a cable too today, so i can debug here as well Jul 17 16:32:07 and i got same error as you yesterday Jul 17 16:32:13 worked around it with .asoundrc Jul 17 16:32:23 oakies Jul 17 16:41:13 i believe everything was migrated .. github? Jul 17 16:50:56 Kotczarny: what type of usb audio cable..make..model..any weblink to what you got? I wanna shop around for one ... Jul 17 16:57:57 endso, it's just some cheapo one i got for ~1-2usd Jul 17 16:58:25 but before you buy anything let me check if it's feasible config for n8x0 Jul 17 17:00:03 http://smartechworld.com/product_images/s/147/486266_100122001403_USB_Sound_Card__84276_zoom.jpg Jul 17 17:00:07 it looks like this one Jul 17 17:00:34 but i wouldnt recommend it, it's so cheap that it even doesnt have hardware mixing or volume control Jul 17 17:01:32 Kot: I'll check it out.....right...I'll find a ..less.."dollar store" model... Jul 17 17:02:12 still, let me check if gtkgep can work with usb audio card without much hassle Jul 17 17:07:12 Kot: Right...of course...I've been looking at audio cards since yesterday...hows something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-to-Virtual-7-1-Channel-3D-External-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-/231337603977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item35dccbb389 Jul 17 17:08:32 or even this...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB2-0-3D-Virtual-12Mbps-External-7-1-Channel-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-F-PC-/151742755108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item235492b124 Jul 17 17:09:27 i'm not an expert, and i only have 2 usb audio cards Jul 17 17:09:41 read reviews from linux folks Jul 17 17:10:10 those cards are cheap enough to be disposable tho Jul 17 17:24:12 hmm, it worked, for 0.5s Jul 17 17:24:38 Kot: ..researched...more expensive models usually need specific drivers...more generic tend to run out-of-the-box on anything....generally speaking of course..variants on the photo you posted ..with or without controls..others have mentioned work with linux systems ..as well yeah...they are cheap enough to test out... Jul 17 17:26:06 Kot: weird...worked and then stopped?...some process gotta be shutting it down... Jul 17 17:27:00 nah, it's my alsa 'experienced' coding Jul 17 17:27:20 endso: https://www.adafruit.com/ good place to look for linux compatible usb sound Jul 17 17:27:42 remember that we have quite ancient kernel on n8x0 Jul 17 17:27:45 2.6.21 Jul 17 17:28:12 so unless it works with generic driver, better not rely on custom drivers Jul 17 17:30:18