**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 24 02:59:59 2015 Jul 24 03:16:11 heck, when you need android, get an android device, no? Jul 24 03:24:42 DocScrutinizer05: and I always thought we were the exceptional few, who would run just anount anything on anything... Jul 24 03:24:55 if I don't get it to work then yeah Jul 24 03:25:28 all I need is a kernel everything seems to work fine. I can't boot, that's my problem Jul 24 03:26:22 DocScrutinizer05: I don't want two devices. Jul 24 03:29:50 well, I dunno, seems like nitroid is an android flaver from like 5 years ago Jul 24 03:30:27 questionable if it's of much use today Jul 24 03:31:55 but then, I'm pretty clueless about android Jul 24 03:32:45 wiki is dead ;_; Jul 24 03:33:27 http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources works for me Jul 24 03:34:34 yes haha dl links... http://downloads.nitdroid.com/e-yes/nitdroid-kernel-2.6.28-07_rc4_armel.deb Jul 24 03:47:06 anyhow, how come it's so empty? I've been gone for sometime -_; Jul 24 04:40:39 DocScrutinizer05: pretty sure the Pyra VM will be a recent Android :p Jul 24 04:42:42 so? Jul 24 04:45:10 I guess they will use schashlik, but that's not related to nitdroid Jul 24 06:08:08 The following packages have been kept back: Jul 24 06:08:08 libgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++6 Jul 24 06:08:28 Does anyone know why is that so Jul 24 06:09:48 deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ Jul 24 06:09:48 deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ Jul 24 06:09:48 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle free non-free Jul 24 06:09:48 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/ fremantle free non-free Jul 24 06:09:48 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-free Jul 24 06:09:49 deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free Jul 24 06:09:49 deb http://repository.maemo.org/community/ fremantle free non-free Jul 24 06:09:50 deb http://deb.opera.com/maemo/ fremantle non-free Jul 24 06:09:50 deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/maemo/ fremantle free Jul 24 06:09:51 deb http://www.amsn-project.net/maemo/ fremantle amsn tcltk Jul 24 06:10:14 This is my sources.list Jul 24 06:11:43 I have a warning about a key expired for both muarf mirrors Jul 24 06:12:11 But I doubt this is the reason Jul 24 06:13:29 Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 6 11:50:00 EEST 2010 armv7l unknown Jul 24 06:13:43 This is my uname -a output Jul 24 06:17:22 On the forum i read that i must have libcurl3 to use facebook sharing plugin Jul 24 06:26:04 It seems i have 7.26.0 from curl -V output, which is newest in my oppinion. In extras-devel repo, there is 7.25.0-1 Jul 24 07:38:41 alphadog: enabling extras-testing and extras-devel for regular use is not a smart idea Jul 24 07:39:17 its ok to install single apps, but otherwise things can break Jul 24 07:39:43 But i suppose its late now to disable them Jul 24 07:40:10 After ive run apt get update & upgrage Jul 24 07:40:12 nope, unless you did apt-get update and upgrade Jul 24 07:40:53 as for the packages being kept back try apt-get install name-of-the-kept-package Jul 24 07:40:59 to see what is the problem Jul 24 07:41:59 I will reflash it tomorrow. Jul 24 07:42:17 So for soursec.list what to leave Jul 24 07:44:04 The muarf mirrors, maemo.org stable and extras Jul 24 07:44:18 what is maemo stable? Jul 24 07:44:42 Not maemo testing and extras testing, neither extras devel Jul 24 07:45:28 there is no such thing as maemo stable :) Jul 24 07:45:48 http://repository.maemo.org/community/community-fremantle.install Jul 24 07:45:58 if you really want to keep -testing and -devel, use apt pinning Jul 24 07:46:22 you can use -devel but just dont enable it 100% of the time Jul 24 07:46:23 This one, it says stable on the site ☺ Jul 24 07:46:27 just for the things you need Jul 24 07:46:56 btw. community is ssu enabler apparently Jul 24 07:47:10 so it is ssu-stable Jul 24 07:48:47 i mean cssu Jul 24 07:48:47 I haven't experienced trouble using things for now Jul 24 07:49:37 just remember that extras-devel can contain some broken packages, as anyone can upload there without much checking Jul 24 07:49:55 So it s not a good idea to use cssu testing and extras testing Jul 24 07:50:48 extras-testing is very similar to extras-devel Jul 24 07:51:11 cssu-testing is fine, extras-testing should be okay in practice, -devel isn't Jul 24 07:51:58 ("fine" as in "a lot of people use it", but it's still a -testing, not a -stable) Jul 24 07:52:27 Are different cssu and extras repos compatible, eg cssu-testing and extras Jul 24 07:52:36 yes Jul 24 07:52:51 extras-testing was meant as a temporary 'try this package for stableness' but without testers almost no one bothers with it Jul 24 07:54:01 So cssu-stable and extra should be the right for me Jul 24 07:54:10 for a start, yes Jul 24 07:54:33 and extras-devel for packages you cant find in extras Jul 24 07:55:08 I suppose additional repos are ok - fennec,opera,vlc.. Jul 24 07:58:01 if you install cssu, you can use nicer application manager, apt is not recommended way on maemo Jul 24 07:58:16 especially apt upgrade Jul 24 07:58:38 hmm, what was its name.. Jul 24 07:58:40 ~fam Jul 24 07:58:40 fapman is probably Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam Jul 24 08:01:55 ~hamvsfam Jul 24 08:01:55 it has been said that hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 Jul 24 08:02:06 it's in cssu-testing now Jul 24 08:11:35 what was the last thing you saw? Jul 24 08:12:16 Its in cssu-testing Jul 24 08:12:23 ok Jul 24 08:13:25 I also found ham is extremely slow, thats why i started using apt Jul 24 08:14:34 use speedyham Jul 24 08:16:14 According this links, using fam is not a good idea, because it uses apt Jul 24 08:16:46 thats why 'use speedyham' Jul 24 08:17:20 Ok, and what about an youtube client, can you recommend me sth Jul 24 08:17:56 cutetube or something Jul 24 08:18:41 There are few programs, but they seem not working Jul 24 08:18:52 What do you use Jul 24 08:19:02 youtube interface changes often Jul 24 08:20:52 And what about local video. I tried to play MP4 files from sd card, 720p quality. Jul 24 08:21:02 ~720p Jul 24 08:21:02 720p is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77695 Jul 24 08:22:13 dont expect it to play highprofile (or main profile) 720p Jul 24 08:22:24 720p/baseline should be fine Jul 24 08:24:31 I suppose it will be better to convert them to 480p Jul 24 08:25:32 On my pc with mencoder or sth else Jul 24 08:26:29 yeah, ffmpeg should do the trick Jul 24 08:26:36 I think they have a profile for 3gs Jul 24 08:26:57 (iphone 3gs, which is roughly similar regarding h264 playback) Jul 24 08:30:06 As far as i know they use the same ti omap cpu Jul 24 08:30:23 3gs and n900 Jul 24 08:30:39 no Jul 24 08:31:29 it's a cortex-a8 @600mhz as well but not a TI SoC Jul 24 08:38:41 What browser can you recommend me to use - fennec, opera or microB Jul 24 08:39:44 any of them have unique features Jul 24 08:39:50 so.. all Jul 24 08:40:05 if something doesnt work in microb, try fennec or opera etc Jul 24 08:41:28 It was a good surprise that google plus was perfect with both fennec and opera Jul 24 08:42:07 But this cannot be said about facebook :) it was awful on both browsers Jul 24 08:42:28 facebook, not even once :P Jul 24 08:53:07 It seems only cutetube2 works for now Jul 24 08:54:51 So what about local video player. Currently I use vlc both at home and work, with xp and debian. Is it ok to use vlc. Jul 24 08:56:33 sure Jul 24 08:56:41 also, install omp (open media player) Jul 24 08:56:59 cutetube no longer works ? Jul 24 08:58:09 Yes, there is cutetube-QML, which can use daylimotion and youtube, but only dailymotion works. Jul 24 08:58:42 Cutetube doesnt work at all Jul 24 09:04:12 hmm right, no search result for youtube Jul 24 09:08:28 huh? fennec isn't even usable Jul 24 09:08:59 its slow Jul 24 09:09:02 but renders ok Jul 24 09:12:05 I couldn't call an Uber with it it was so slow Jul 24 09:14:36 :> Jul 24 09:14:48 then its not the fennec fault but stupid site Jul 24 09:16:31 stupid site works fine on my PC :P Jul 24 09:17:06 stupid site with limited functionality and overbloated 'content' :P Jul 24 09:17:39 ? Jul 24 09:19:06 ! Jul 24 09:19:14 i mean, other sites work, right? Jul 24 09:19:28 and how much power one would need for a simple post request? Jul 24 09:25:06 yeah fennec is barely usable Jul 24 09:25:49 (and yeah, the uber website is bloated and almost useless :p) Jul 24 10:34:45 I'm not sure I get the point of wanting to play 720p content on the n900 Jul 24 10:35:00 it's not like the hardware was designed for it, and the screen/video out definitely doesn't support it. Jul 24 10:37:17 previewing the 720p video you just took? Jul 24 10:37:36 the camera doesn't film in 720p, does it? Jul 24 10:38:14 also, long time everyone, how's it been? I work for ex-Nokians in Denmark now :) Jul 24 10:38:16 it can Jul 24 10:38:36 ex-nokians? :) Jul 24 10:40:33 Did you mean jolla :) Jul 24 10:40:53 Jolla is in Finland Jul 24 10:41:11 and the whole of Nokia didn't end up at Jolla xD Jul 24 10:41:30 ^^ Jul 24 10:43:38 I wanted to buy their phone, but in my country nor operators neither stores offered it Jul 24 10:45:00 I had to buy an andr one. I havent check how is the situation now. Jul 24 10:50:12 KotCzarny: cutetube2 doesnt click as well :) Jul 24 10:50:24 bencoh, could be it uses mafw for playback Jul 24 10:50:35 I dont think it uses mafw Jul 24 10:50:39 still, do you have any hints where and how to debug it? Jul 24 10:53:22 there is a funny preventScreenBlanking with a _HILDON_DO_NOT_DISTURB property in cutetube2 Jul 24 10:53:33 hum Jul 24 10:54:00 not sure whether this is related Jul 24 10:54:34 and ... it's in openmediaplayer as well Jul 24 10:54:44 // Prevent notifications and popups from obscuring the window Jul 24 10:54:50 might not be the one you need Jul 24 11:17:34 hmm, i wonder how to call that atom in console app Jul 24 11:18:14 ? Jul 24 11:18:27 _HILDON_DO_NOT_DISTURB is x thing Jul 24 11:18:48 it is Jul 24 12:00:32 Hi all Jul 24 12:00:37 I have a access problem Jul 24 12:00:46 Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel. Jul 24 12:00:52 to talk.maemo.org Jul 24 12:01:16 please delist IP: 77.246.99.70 Jul 24 12:03:35 shaggycat: Did You mean to post this in #Freenode or something? Jul 24 12:03:52 :D Jul 24 12:04:22 I guess he's talking about talk.maemo.org Jul 24 12:04:28 (or the whole maemo infra) Jul 24 12:16:14 yes, I about talk.maemo.org Jul 24 12:16:21 And i'm she :) Jul 24 12:38:56 shaggycat: 15:15 < sixwheeledbeast> that IP has been used for brute force attacks in the past according to search engines Jul 24 12:39:05 dunno what happened with this IP Jul 24 12:39:32 bencoh, but It's not me Jul 24 12:40:06 sixwheeledbeast: dunno if you have access to that, but ... ^ Jul 24 12:40:19 (or warfare maybe_ Jul 24 12:40:21 probably it is one of Windows station. This Ip of our office. And I'm not a system administrator of it. I'm cloud developer (DevOps) Jul 24 12:41:22 hm, probably Jul 24 12:41:26 :) Jul 24 14:56:46 wasn't that shaggycat's ip reported bad ip? ie. bruteforce hacks and stuff Jul 24 14:57:25 so even if she is ok, unblocking would mean bad scripts would have access there Jul 24 15:04:45 maybe not Jul 24 15:05:10 the reports I've seen seem quite "old" (a year) Jul 24 15:15:49 bencoh, please Jul 24 15:15:58 Not works yet.... Jul 24 15:16:08 I want to read forum :( Jul 24 15:16:22 shaggycat: why the need for tor to access TMO? Jul 24 15:16:45 kerio, I live in Russia Jul 24 15:17:07 kerio, here is censorship Jul 24 15:17:15 ayy lmao Jul 24 15:17:55 kerio, and, 77.246.99.70 is not TOR node Jul 24 15:18:00 It is our office Jul 24 15:18:06 sNAT IP Jul 24 15:18:10 of gateway Jul 24 15:18:25 i see Jul 24 15:18:36 sometimes I use tor, becouse our goverment like to block some interesting rescources, Jul 24 15:19:03 but not talk.maemo.org not works with tor and NAT both :( Jul 24 15:19:09 *but now Jul 24 15:19:42 shaggycat, can you access *.maemo.org from your home internet? Jul 24 15:19:58 KotCzarny, yes, but at home I have not time to it Jul 24 15:20:05 At work I have free time Jul 24 15:20:47 ok, now, install sshd at home and some http proxy, then from work ssh to home and forward some port to that proxy Jul 24 15:20:48 done Jul 24 15:22:28 if you can ssh to home, you might as well just use the builtin SOCKS proxy Jul 24 15:23:00 KotCzarny, I have not public IP at home Jul 24 15:23:38 shaggycat: I'm not an admin, I cant do anything about it (that's why I highlighted the others) Jul 24 15:23:53 Hell Jul 24 15:24:00 o? Jul 24 15:24:08 May be, anybody can create a ticket for admin? Jul 24 15:24:25 I am not techstaff if that was the question Jul 24 15:24:38 mailto: techstaff@maemo.org Jul 24 15:25:03 (assuming they havent added her ip to block list too) Jul 24 15:25:04 :) Jul 24 15:25:13 oh, okay Jul 24 15:25:23 just kidding Jul 24 15:25:38 Ok. Thank you Jul 24 15:26:03 I can help with wiki but that's about it. Jul 24 15:27:55 shaggycat: I thought you had admin rights on TMO ... nevermind :) Jul 24 15:28:13 woops, that was for sixwheeledbeast of course :) Jul 24 15:28:28 bencoh, :) Jul 24 15:28:55 nope, TMO is chemist Jul 24 15:30:52 bencoh, In the past, I had a root with big cluster (when I worked in expluatation department, at UNIX administrator), but now I only localhost root :) And, probably, root on my labs :) Jul 24 15:31:40 usually, devops has'nt root in production servers... Jul 24 15:33:06 exploitation department? Jul 24 15:33:07 O.o Jul 24 15:33:44 exploitation, operation - sorry for bad english Jul 24 15:34:13 KotCzarny: "production" (you know, the servers thou shalt not shutdowns :) Jul 24 15:34:57 -s Jul 24 15:35:57 http://www.blocklist.de/en/search.html?ip=77.246.99.70&action=search&send=start+search Jul 24 15:36:57 Last attack: 24.07.2015 Jul 24 15:37:09 Attacks count: 23 (this month) Jul 24 15:37:15 hmm Jul 24 15:37:31 shaggycat, you work with bad people Jul 24 15:37:46 ask netadmins if they know about it Jul 24 15:39:10 It is a very sad story :) Some years before, I bought Nokia N900 (and when I work in operations, It was good to have imidiatly access to servers from subway, becouse harsware keyboard). After some years, I get a dream about Jolla Phone. And, one day, I know about hardware jeyboard project, tohkbd rev1. Unfortunately, in this moment, new orders can't be aprouved. And was a pic with aduld women with phone, and tell: "no new keyboards". I was a very sad, a Jul 24 15:39:10 nd try to find speculator. And I found one, and bought the rev1 keyboard without jolla phone. In next step of this sad history, Jul 24 15:40:06 just ask netadmins at your office if they know that someone is doing bad things from inside your network Jul 24 15:40:34 I have a plans to buy Jolla phone. But my family get a some problems, and I was'nt have a free moneys in this moment. One year has passed, and my Nokia N900 was died, Jul 24 15:41:03 I'd rather buy a "new" (used) n900 Jul 24 15:41:23 (instead of a jolla) Jul 24 15:41:35 And I bought a Jolla Phone. After 2 day, market price of Jolla phone was reduced :) And the keyboard, what I try to attach to my new Jolla phone, not worked Jul 24 15:41:42 and, Jul 24 15:42:13 And, I go to talks.maemo.org, Jul 24 15:42:15 and seen, Jul 24 15:42:37 A stop aprouving orders to new keyboard, rev2 :) Jul 24 15:43:25 and Is a NOT more new keyboards in ebay with big price from speculators :) Jul 24 15:43:54 and, in next step, a maemo.org banned me Jul 24 15:44:14 channel, am I a looser :))? Jul 24 15:44:45 nope, but someone if your office is Jul 24 15:45:25 But, kimmoli try to help me, and I send to him a parcel with my broken rev1 keyboard to repair Jul 24 15:45:32 May be it will work Jul 24 15:46:46 Or may be not. natural continuation of this sad story will be can't be repaired keyboard :) Jul 24 15:48:12 what happend to your n900? Jul 24 15:49:09 bencoh, the screen blinking Jul 24 15:50:36 It is a very sad about team of rev2 keyboard use the same pic with adult women with phone :) Jul 24 15:51:09 It was a very sad year before, and it is now very sad for persons, who late again Jul 24 15:56:37 screen "blinking" sounds like flexcable broken Jul 24 15:58:39 Jolla Phone more like me then N900: it is more powerfull, interesting GUI, and new kernel, new toolchain, Wayland :)) and it is a also standart plus, android emulator. But I need a hw keyboard :( Jul 24 15:59:01 I'd like to print long posts to forums inside subways, Jul 24 15:59:04 emails, Jul 24 15:59:14 and coding :) Jul 24 15:59:23 there are bt keyboards with phone holders Jul 24 15:59:25 Becouse laptop has a big waight Jul 24 15:59:28 maybe you just need one Jul 24 16:00:30 it is not conveniently. Rev1 keyboard of cource has not-production look, Jul 24 16:00:52 but it is more conveniently then special device Jul 24 16:01:05 becouse I have a one device, not 2 Jul 24 16:01:37 in transport one device more comfortable Jul 24 16:02:14 i have 2 devices, n900 and ebookreader with mirasol display Jul 24 16:04:07 KotCzarny, I'm crazy, I think. Becouse I usually have a 2 smartphones (becouse second is reducent. If one lost a level of charge, or be blocked becouse minus financial balance), second is a Galaxy S2 with cyanogenomod, and I too have a reader with elink Jul 24 16:04:27 KotCzarny, which reader are you use? Jul 24 16:04:37 kyobo (android unlocked) Jul 24 16:05:10 as for the charge, you can get powerbank Jul 24 16:06:55 KotCzarny, I use Nook Simple Touch. Also non-offical android. I use it now to read english books and translation words by touchscreen. Unfortunately, my English can't be better for many years :( It is pre-intermidiate level for last 3 years. Jul 24 16:07:20 KotCzarny, Are you native speaker? Jul 24 16:07:39 i'm from .pl, but i know english quite well Jul 24 16:07:58 learned it from videogames when i was young :P Jul 24 16:07:59 KotCzarny, do you read a English books? Or you read polish? Jul 24 16:08:06 both Jul 24 16:08:25 KotCzarny, great Jul 24 16:10:39 KotCzarny, Jolla never freezes like N900. On AJAX sites too Jul 24 16:11:09 and, It works faster then my second phone, Samsung Galaxy S2 with also 2 cores Jul 24 16:11:14 n900 is old, even in 2009 it was a bit on the slower side Jul 24 16:11:21 n900 only has 1 core Jul 24 16:11:41 becouse android is too stupid (4.3 too stupid. May be lolipop better) Jul 24 16:25:50 xes: shaggycat needs to have 77.246.99.70 unblocked from tmo Jul 24 16:26:20 ~techstaff Jul 24 16:26:39 ~maemo Jul 24 16:26:49 ~botsnack Jul 24 16:26:49 chem|st: :) Jul 24 16:32:46 chemist: read the scrollback Jul 24 16:35:30 ~scrollback Jul 24 16:35:30 hold 'shift' and touch 'page up' Jul 24 16:35:36 thanks! Jul 24 16:35:57 for irc apps it's usually 'page up' alone Jul 24 16:44:46 KotCzarny: I got an email, just doing waht I am asked for Jul 24 16:45:01 in short, that ip is reported attack site Jul 24 16:45:20 http://www.blocklist.de/en/search.html?ip=77.246.99.70&action=search&send=start+search Jul 24 16:45:20 KotCzarny: reported? Jul 24 16:47:03 xes: nevermind then Jul 24 16:47:13 reported today I read Jul 24 16:47:28 and in the past Jul 24 16:48:02 shaggycat might be ok, but that ip is shared for their whole office Jul 24 16:48:11 and someone there isnt ok Jul 24 16:50:00 rip shaggycat Jul 24 16:50:04 you will be missed Jul 24 17:00:25 (( n900 only has 1 core)) not as if cores ever were the bottleneck Jul 24 17:00:52 doc, sure, but having 2 would help with stupid websites Jul 24 17:00:58 particularly not NUMBER of cores Jul 24 17:01:21 and for general system smoothness Jul 24 17:01:43 unless your browser is smart enough to parallelize rendering, which is not warranted even on up-to-date browsers Jul 24 17:02:00 doc, while you are there, do you know what causes playback glitch on window operations and on screen blank/unblank? Jul 24 17:02:05 kerio, I back Jul 24 17:02:17 KotCzarny: sorry, nope Jul 24 17:02:39 prolly you're using too app process centric buffering of audio Jul 24 17:02:54 doc, but gstreamer has the same problem too Jul 24 17:03:04 hmm Jul 24 17:03:27 and its not buffering, i've set 2000ms buffer and it still glitches Jul 24 17:03:59 if in doubt, blame Pukeaudio Jul 24 17:04:29 sure, but system media player/omp uses pa too, and doesnt have this glitch Jul 24 17:04:40 well, they use mafw, but it goes to pa too Jul 24 17:04:40 err wait, do you have system sounds enabled? Jul 24 17:04:48 none that i know of Jul 24 17:05:37 set system sounds and touch sounds to off Jul 24 17:05:49 i have it that way already Jul 24 17:06:20 try audio policy multimedia or gaming or whatever the high priority profiles Jul 24 17:06:38 ok Jul 24 17:08:06 I seem to recall this problem appeared often when audio playback apps didn't use correct audio profile, so system sounds would actually override and thus interrupt the app Jul 24 17:08:27 but it happens intermittently Jul 24 17:08:37 sometimes it goes blank without glitch Jul 24 17:09:08 gotta check that audioprofile thing first tho Jul 24 17:09:15 yeah, it's a sort of race condition Jul 24 17:11:05 hmm Jul 24 17:11:28 stupid question, how do i set the policy? Jul 24 17:11:31 im using http://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/doxygen/simple_8h.html#add9a7dce4e15955d4296726c26206689 Jul 24 17:12:50 is it the stream_name ? Jul 24 17:15:46 sorry no clue Jul 24 17:16:06 anyway, thanks for the hint Jul 24 17:16:28 there's a file *somewhere* that defines process names and audio plicies to enable when that process is running Jul 24 17:17:37 I just serched /etc but didn't find it, prolly it's in /usr/share/alsa or pulse/ or OHM/ or dunnowhere Jul 24 17:17:43 software development is like an adventure game Jul 24 17:18:01 you try everything everywhere until it wokr Jul 24 17:18:02 s Jul 24 17:18:04 *works Jul 24 17:19:21 /etc/pulse/xpolicy.conf probably Jul 24 17:20:30 yeah, xpolicy Jul 24 17:24:16 setting group to 'systemsound' didnt work Jul 24 17:25:00 nor 'player' Jul 24 17:26:30 I told you already, but I dont think the issue is with audio :) Jul 24 17:26:57 bencoh: i've tried setting that atom, and it didnt help Jul 24 17:27:26 KotCzarny: but you shouldnt be bothered by notifications when playing a video :) Jul 24 17:27:40 oscp is mainly background audio player Jul 24 17:27:49 vidplay is just unexpected bonus ;) Jul 24 17:27:53 does it click when playing audio only ? Jul 24 17:27:58 yes Jul 24 17:28:01 hm Jul 24 17:28:15 do you actually have a window with audio-only medias ? Jul 24 17:28:31 I thought you had a deported interface Jul 24 17:28:38 nope, but for setting atom i opened x connection and created dummy window Jul 24 17:28:41 s/deported/remote/ Jul 24 17:28:42 bencoh meant: I thought you had a remote interface Jul 24 17:29:06 just for testing the idea, core is console only Jul 24 17:30:58 then it's not what I think (at all) :) Jul 24 17:31:08 thought* Jul 24 17:31:25 still, im open to any idea/hint Jul 24 17:31:43 is there some way to monitor pulseaudio events? Jul 24 17:31:55 dunno Jul 24 17:43:29 I'd rather start monitoring X signals/msgs on your app's input, and even fake them and see if that triggers the problem Jul 24 17:45:41 its a console app Jul 24 17:53:40 hmmm Jul 24 17:54:11 then PolypAudio is the only thing that comes to mind Jul 24 17:55:06 or... some "leete tweks" you did to your maemo system. Like messing with cpufreq-governor or dunno what Jul 24 17:55:14 no, its not only me Jul 24 17:55:24 bencoh has it too, and qmlradio developer Jul 24 17:55:54 gst-launch-1.0 filesrc location=/some/file.mp3 ! decodebin ! pulsesink Jul 24 17:55:56 try for yourself Jul 24 17:56:16 then blank/unblank screen few times or switch windows around (open/close) Jul 24 18:18:05 ( 48.479| 5.002) D: voice-temperature.c: Ambient temperature updated: 31 Jul 24 18:18:05 ( 48.480| 0.001) D: voice-temperature.c: Temperature read timer started: 5000000 us Jul 24 18:18:05 ( 48.662| 0.182) D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on ''NTranceFeatRodStewart' by 'DaYaThinkImSexy'', 0 bytes in queue. Jul 24 18:18:06 ( 48.933| 0.270) D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to rewrite. Jul 24 18:18:07 the fuck? Jul 24 18:18:49 and: Jul 24 18:18:49 ( 92.332| 0.001) D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to rewrite. Jul 24 18:18:49 ( 92.884| 0.551) D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on ''NTranceFeatRodStewart' by 'DaYaThinkImSexy'', 0 bytes in queue. Jul 24 18:18:49 ( 93.227| 0.342) D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to rewrite. Jul 24 18:19:01 that's when the glitch occurs Jul 24 18:19:16 but still no clue what is the reason of the underrun Jul 24 18:22:01 ( 289.375| 3.930) D: voice-temperature.c: Xprot inactive, shutting down. Jul 24 18:28:43 ( 48.662| 0.182) D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on ''NTranceFeatRodStewart' by 'DaYaThinkImSexy'', 0 bytes in queue. Jul 24 18:28:45 wut Jul 24 18:33:27 ( 885.146| 0.001) D: classify.c: find_group_for_client (oscp|Multimedia|7454|0|oscp) => othermedia Jul 24 18:33:29 hmm Jul 24 18:45:55 hmm, can't set group in pa Jul 24 18:47:33 reason for underrun is always the same: the app providing the samples didn't provide them in time Jul 24 18:47:52 doc, but it happens with mplayer and gst and many other apps Jul 24 18:48:20 what can I say? Jul 24 18:48:35 is gstreamer cssu maintained? Jul 24 18:49:17