**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 05 02:59:58 2015 Aug 05 03:03:17 ummm Aug 05 04:54:01 R0b0t1, invalid access to address 0xFFFF? Aug 05 05:21:12 . Aug 05 05:27:09 I was wondering the same as well. Aug 05 09:53:35 I'm trying to cross compile some C software I've developed but I'm having a tough time installing the maemo SDK. All the docs are for old versions of Debian, and the SDK link is dead. Aug 05 09:54:05 ~sdk Aug 05 09:54:05 sdk is probably http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" Aug 05 09:54:08 ~scratchbox Aug 05 09:54:08 somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB Aug 05 09:54:21 ~maemo-sdk Aug 05 09:54:21 [maemo-sdk] the development environment for the Nokia Internet Tablets, found here: http://maemo.org/development/ Aug 05 09:55:00 i think you may be interested in the last link Aug 05 09:55:45 Will check these out thank you. The first paste is dead, 404. Aug 05 09:55:53 but last time i've installed sdk it was as simple as downloading install script and running it Aug 05 09:56:01 + some tweaking for my particular system Aug 05 09:57:00 http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/ Aug 05 09:57:22 there is: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0.sh and http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh Aug 05 09:57:43 I think I'm over complicating this. Aug 05 09:57:54 definitely Aug 05 09:58:14 sdk installs itself, you might have problems with expired repos though so: Aug 05 09:58:17 ~maemo-repos Aug 05 09:58:17 extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Aug 05 10:04:12 jj15: setting a maemo/scratchbox buildenv on debian7 works Aug 05 10:04:20 (tested a year ago) Aug 05 10:04:56 I followed the wiki with just a few minor changes, if any Aug 05 10:09:54 bencoh: I'm running the maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh at the moment. Few issue but I'll get past them and see how it goes. Aug 05 10:12:17 I used http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Manual_Installation Aug 05 10:12:25 (not the install script) Aug 05 10:12:37 jj15, did you install scratchbox first? Aug 05 10:13:21 KotCzarny: yea Aug 05 10:17:16 bencoh: Setup a new VM will try the manual install guide. Aug 05 10:18:11 jj15, i think there is vm image with sdk somewhere Aug 05 10:19:24 http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/ Aug 05 10:19:25 hum Aug 05 10:19:33 mind you, i've never used it Aug 05 10:27:56 hmm ... I had never seen this page before Aug 05 10:28:40 garage is a dump full of little treasures Aug 05 10:30:11 The image links are dead too. They link to nokia. Aug 05 10:35:10 jj15: there are some mirrors around on the internet, if you really need it Aug 05 10:35:16 ~sb Aug 05 10:35:17 hmm... scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB Aug 05 10:38:17 hmm, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/migration-project/backed-up-sites-v1.txt has a list of maemo sites, were they backuped or it's just a list? Aug 05 11:36:43 So far so good with the manual install. Everything is running ok. Aug 05 11:36:51 Takes a long time though Aug 05 11:36:57 manual == .sh way? Aug 05 11:37:29 No, just following the instructions on the wiki that bencoh gave. Aug 05 11:37:37 uhum Aug 05 11:38:03 jj15: no need to change anything ? Aug 05 11:38:25 So far no. Aug 05 11:38:30 nice :) Aug 05 11:38:36 wheezy or jessie ? Aug 05 11:38:50 Wheezy. My host is jessie but thought i'd set it up on Wheezy. Aug 05 11:49:01 All done. Time to test now. Aug 05 11:57:21 it's still possible to install N900 using scripts - like I did few weeks (months) ago Aug 05 11:57:54 N900 SDK* Aug 05 13:11:30 Welcome. I need some help regarding Maemo. The problem is not difficult. Aug 05 13:11:42 I need a response from command "ls -l /home". Why? Once I forget to add after tar -xvzf comand -C parameter (specify where I want to unpack file) and now I have some trash in /home directory. Aug 05 13:12:02 I simply want to clean it up. :) Aug 05 13:13:41 ... and avoid accidental deleting Maemo's files. Aug 05 13:25:47 mp107: Not sure I understand Aug 05 13:26:34 I need know which folders and files inside /home directory are created by Maemo on default. Aug 05 13:27:25 because I accidentaly unpacked here some archive with many files and folders. Aug 05 13:29:06 oh well. user and opt IIRC Aug 05 13:29:20 only? Aug 05 13:29:26 maybe lost&found Aug 05 13:29:56 are there any files? Aug 05 13:30:27 nope Aug 05 13:30:48 files should be in MyDocs Aug 05 13:31:04 or /home/user/MyDocs Aug 05 13:31:11 that is Aug 05 13:31:11 About it I know. Aug 05 13:31:14 Thank you. I hope I won't mess it up and have to reflash. Aug 05 13:31:59 I have unpacked here N12_UMay.tar.bz2 and that's why I have to clean it up. Aug 05 13:32:12 I am surprised it hasn't complained about lack of memory yet. Aug 05 13:33:22 I habe extended /home partition Aug 05 13:33:29 *have Aug 05 13:33:54 Probably that's why. :) Aug 05 13:38:26 mp107: tar tf N12_UMay.tar.bz2 to see what it created Aug 05 13:39:08 Thank you. Aug 05 13:40:28 To be honest I was unsure mostly about system folder. It have many files and I didn't want to remove something created by Maemo. Aug 05 14:34:21 What compiler do I use from scratchbox? They are all titled "arm-none-linux...". What's the "none-linux" mean? Aug 05 14:35:04 I see "none-linux-*-gcc" Aug 05 14:35:34 http://wiki.osdev.org/Target_Triplet Aug 05 14:36:46 or https://community.freescale.com/message/354077#354077 Aug 05 14:39:27 thanks bencoh. Makes sense now. Aug 05 14:43:21 Worked. Need to test on N900 now. file shows 32 bit arm executable. Aug 05 14:44:24 :) Aug 05 14:45:05 try building using the debian build procedure/infra when possible (dpkg-buildpackage) Aug 05 14:45:48 it can save you some trouble regarding the toolchain, plus you'll be able to upload to extras :) Aug 05 14:47:23 Ah, will give that a try. Surprised I've had no major issues thus far. Aug 05 16:09:06 Finally tested on N900 and the executable worked without issues. Finally got there. Thank you bencoh. Aug 05 16:11:34 Will brb Aug 05 16:12:25 bk Aug 05 16:33:41 what is the executable btw Aug 05 16:35:10 freemangordon: what was the state of crypto hw accel on the n900? Aug 05 16:35:12 do we have aes? Aug 05 16:55:25 yay Aug 05 18:57:36 yay random reboots :< Aug 05 19:09:35 hi Aug 05 19:19:34 ~jrtools Aug 05 19:19:34 jrtools is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Aug 05 20:48:53 :) Aug 05 21:00:32  Aug 05 21:59:03 hi all, hope everyone's well Aug 05 21:59:19 Who is our IRC group contact ATM? Aug 05 22:04:09 nfi :) Aug 05 22:04:22 What have you been up to lately? Aug 05 22:06:41 lol Aug 05 22:07:24 not much, working (day job), two kids now (1x 1yo, 1x ~4yo) Aug 05 22:07:47 feeling I need to escape from Android and hoping my Jolla tablet turns up soon Aug 05 22:08:02 and you? Aug 05 22:19:02 :D Aug 05 22:41:34 night all Aug 05 22:42:05 'night :) Aug 05 23:17:44 hey has anyone managed to get gnuradio working Aug 05 23:18:07 on n900 Aug 05 23:18:13 for use with rtlsdr Aug 05 23:22:50 I suspect that would be dead slow Aug 05 23:23:41 you know what mate Aug 05 23:23:45 i never thought of that Aug 05 23:23:50 shit Aug 05 23:24:35 hmmm Aug 05 23:24:40 ok Aug 05 23:24:57 what about overclocked ? Aug 05 23:25:42 I doubt it would be anywere near enough, but ... :-) Aug 05 23:27:21 what about collection Aug 05 23:27:59 i dont really need Digital Voice Decoding Aug 05 23:28:15 n900 has a C64+ DSP, so I guess with a *lot* of willpower, a good amount of skill, and quite some time, you could write some of the primitives for the C64+ and rewrite gnuradio to benefit from it Aug 05 23:28:19 but .... meh :-) Aug 05 23:28:27 collection ? Aug 05 23:28:37 what do you want to do with rtlsdr ? Aug 05 23:29:13 well, i been looking at the FM radio Aug 05 23:29:36 and i was thinking if i could send data over it, shortrange Aug 05 23:29:51 The range is 10 metres at best Aug 05 23:29:58 really Aug 05 23:30:05 i get more than that with my pi and a wire Aug 05 23:30:06 lol Aug 05 23:30:26 does the FM radio output via antenna Aug 05 23:30:29 like the headphones Aug 05 23:30:32 Yes well, transmitters that are not homemade have to follow regulations :) Aug 05 23:30:42 why ? Aug 05 23:30:48 ... Aug 05 23:30:57 no i mean like Aug 05 23:31:02 who says ? Aug 05 23:31:02 Because otherwise the device would not have been allowed to be sold? Aug 05 23:31:55 I'm not even sure what's the regulation regarding FM transmitters (over really short range) Aug 05 23:32:12 I wonder if it's not just tolerated Aug 05 23:32:27 There are rules Aug 05 23:32:30 in most places Aug 05 23:32:31 well i going to be looking at the radio firmware soon Aug 05 23:32:48 i trying to rip from an android device at moment Aug 05 23:33:11 But more or less if you transmit at power levels that give you 10 metres range, it's below what's considered "harmful interference" Aug 05 23:33:50 hmmm Aug 05 23:34:25 im actually looking for 100m Aug 05 23:34:25 ShadowJK: yeah I mean, the regulation regarding the "~10meters range" Aug 05 23:34:27 lol Aug 05 23:34:36 but ... probably like you said Aug 05 23:35:28 See I could put the radio on my RPi, then stream to the phone that would prolly be a better alternative Aug 05 23:35:32 i got more control over it then Aug 05 23:39:44 https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-297510A1.pdf Aug 05 23:41:58 https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet63/oet63rev.pdf Aug 05 23:46:45 So this permits 500 microvolt/m at a range of 3m for wifi frequencies, and 150 microvolt/m at a range of 3m for FM Aug 05 23:47:18 Oh actually it's higher for spread spectrum on wifi bands (which wifi is) Aug 05 23:50:50 could it be overclocked lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 06 02:59:58 2015