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Aug 11 12:19:07 <trumee> is hexchat available for N900?
Aug 11 12:23:26 <Sicelo> iirc, yes
Aug 11 12:27:35 <bencoh> hm, not in extras
Aug 11 12:34:30 <trumee> cant find it
Aug 11 12:35:59 <trumee> xchat is giving an error connecting to my znc server over ssl,  Connection failed. Error: (336151568) error:14094410:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert handshake failure
Aug 11 12:36:53 <KotCzarny> maybe it doesnt do ssl at all
Aug 11 12:38:24 <KotCzarny> but you can simply try compiling it
Aug 11 12:41:50 <trumee> there used to be a program to looks at wifi channels in maemo. anybody remember its name?
Aug 11 12:42:48 <trumee> i think there was one unless i am mixing it with wifi analyser on android
Aug 11 12:44:15 <totalizator> trumee: try this http://talk.maemo.com/showthread.php?t=94752 or this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94084
Aug 11 12:45:29 <trumee> totalizator, ah nices ones. which one supports znc?
Aug 11 12:45:33 <trumee> with ssl
Aug 11 12:46:47 <totalizator> both
Aug 11 12:47:16 <trumee> totalizator, thanks
Aug 11 12:48:39 <totalizator> sure
Aug 11 12:52:15 <kerio> trumee: i just have socat work as a proxy .-.
Aug 11 13:07:49 <trumee> totalizator, how do i change channels in irrsi? There is no Alt key on N900.
Aug 11 13:11:36 <Sicelo>  /win XX
Aug 11 13:11:42 <Sicelo> or
Aug 11 13:11:49 <Sicelo> Esc = Alt
Aug 11 13:12:03 <KotCzarny> remap some key?
Aug 11 13:13:48 <trumee> i tried Esc number, but that didnt change the window
Aug 11 13:15:28 <Sicelo> does on my N900
Aug 11 13:15:58 <KotCzarny> does it need simultaneous press or one after another
Aug 11 13:16:27 <Sicelo> you remember irssi only supports Alt+(1-0) or Alt+(Q-O) ?
Aug 11 13:17:08 <trumee> ctrl p works
Aug 11 13:17:12 <Sicelo> other windows must be mentioned explicitly, or, you use ALT+left/right cursor key
Aug 11 13:18:17 <Sicelo> dunno what's up with yours :) ... of course ctrl p or n works too
Aug 11 13:18:49 <trumee> Sicelo, Esc key on the toolbar in terminal?
Aug 11 13:18:55 <Sicelo> yes
Aug 11 13:19:57 <trumee> Sicelo, you to first lock the Fn key and then do Esc + number.
Aug 11 13:20:12 <trumee> Sicelo, that works here. But it is too cumbersome
Aug 11 13:25:16 <Sicelo> ymmv. i don't lock Fn key
Aug 11 13:25:33 <KotCzarny> i just have everything in one window
Aug 11 13:25:34 <KotCzarny> :>
Aug 11 13:27:43 <Sicelo> anyone here whose N900 doesn't connect to WPA-Enterprise network? (PEAP+MSCHAPv2)
Aug 11 13:31:15 <Vajb> I use ctrl+p or ctrl+n to switch windows in irssi
Aug 11 13:31:31 <Vajb> depending on which way im going
Aug 11 13:31:51 <Vajb> on n900 that is
Aug 11 13:39:32 <Humpelstilzchen> Sicelo: key missing?
Aug 11 13:39:43 <Humpelstilzchen> s/key/certificate
Aug 11 13:46:00 <Sicelo> no. cert is there
Aug 11 13:48:27 <Humpelstilzchen> Sicelo: also enabled for wifi?
Aug 11 13:48:41 <Sicelo> i saw an EAP_disable_certificate_check key for gconf, but it does not look like EAPD respects it
Aug 11 13:49:18 <Sicelo> cannot enable the certificate in the settings :)
Aug 11 13:51:11 <Humpelstilzchen> Sicelo: try google for maemo eduroam, iirc there was a something special
Aug 11 13:51:36 <Sicelo> i have that .. manual username. no dice. wpa_supplicant connects just fine
Aug 11 13:51:47 <Sicelo> but i'd like to eventually just use normal GUI
Aug 11 13:59:21 <Sicelo> freemangordon: i would like to completely remove the expired certificates from my N900 (not just blacklist). However, it seems cmcli does not remove them. am i missing something?
Aug 11 14:02:46 <KotCzarny> sicelo, write your own gui in pygtk?
Aug 11 14:02:52 <KotCzarny> it's simple enough 
Aug 11 14:04:58 <Sicelo> it's not really about GUI as such .. but using wpa_supplicant .. other programs do not correctly detect the state of the connection, e.g. pidgin
Aug 11 14:05:44 <Sicelo> it's best to use the stock connection dialog (if it can be made to work for me)
Aug 11 14:06:58 <KotCzarny> isnt there some command to inform system about network state?
Aug 11 14:07:08 <KotCzarny> wlan manager does it somehow
Aug 11 14:08:03 <Humpelstilzchen> at least there is a dbus command for network information
Aug 11 14:08:47 <Humpelstilzchen> in nokia/icd, nokia/icd2
Aug 11 14:09:13 <KotCzarny> sicelo, run dbus monitor and see what wlan manager sends?
Aug 11 14:09:26 <KotCzarny> then maybe you can do the same from cmdline ?
Aug 11 14:10:12 <Sicelo> i do, heh. ... libidc-null provides a useable "Dummy Network"
Aug 11 14:15:44 <Sicelo> i think it should be possible for me to connect without too fancy tweaks .. actually on my own PEAP/MSCHAPV2 network at home, it connects just fine
Aug 11 15:12:50 <freemangordon> Sicelo: I guess you can just rm those certs and then update the list
Aug 11 15:15:35 <Sicelo> hmm, ok. will try that. how to update the list?
Aug 11 15:29:56 <Sicelo> orp at least how to blacklist them .. diginotar cert is blacklisted properly
Aug 11 15:30:19 <freemangordon> Sicelo: just a minute
Aug 11 15:31:13 <Sicelo> sure :)
Aug 11 15:31:40 <freemangordon> Sicelo: https://github.com/community-ssu/maemo-security-certman/blob/master/debian/maemosec-certman-common-ca.postinst
Aug 11 15:32:02 <freemangordon> Sicelo: https://github.com/community-ssu/maemo-security-certman/blob/master/etc/secure/s/certman.blacklist
Aug 11 15:32:31 <freemangordon> and https://github.com/community-ssu/maemo-security-certman/tree/master/etc/certs/blacklist
Aug 11 15:34:21 <kerio> are we keeping up with the mozilla/debian ca certs?
Aug 11 15:34:28 <kerio> idk if they added stuff
Aug 11 15:34:36 <freemangordon> no :)
Aug 11 15:34:51 <freemangordon> idk either
Aug 11 15:35:24 <freemangordon> though I am not aware of more compromised certificates since the last update
Aug 11 15:35:57 <freemangordon> also, when someone reports that microb (or whatever) reports a missing cert, I guess we will add it asap
Aug 11 17:29:13 <sixwheeledbeast> anyone using mafw-lastfm (scrobbler?) Seems to have stopped working here...
Aug 11 17:37:35 <totalizator> trumee: use mouse.pl script to switch windows in Irssi by swiping left and right as described in my post http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94084
Aug 11 17:39:44 <totalizator> sixwheeledbeast: try to clear the cache (que), I had to do it when it stopped working on my device
Aug 11 17:40:18 <sixwheeledbeast> totalizator: do you know where it is?
Aug 12 00:37:15 <Oksana> Okay, why don't people ever take a look at tags on TMO? As only one person, I have ability to add only two tags to a thread. And when there is a thread where people buy and sell Neo900 vouchers, AND somebody begins to sell N900 in it (if I understand it correctly), I can no longer understand how to tag the thread.
Aug 12 01:04:50 <DocScrutinizer51> contact the moderators
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