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Sep 08 03:15:59 <DocScrutinizer05> yes, this is a very reasonable sugestion
Sep 08 03:22:32 <DocScrutinizer05> Oksana: (fsck) copy all your data from MyDocs to uSD, then do a mkfs.vfat on that partition and copy back all the stuff from uSD
Sep 08 03:23:58 <DocScrutinizer05> and probably you should give device enough time to shut down. you must not remove batery as soon as the LED fades to dark, device will stay powered and shutting down quite a few dozen seconds longer than that
Sep 08 03:25:17 <DocScrutinizer05> tip: edit LED pattern for shutdown so it doesn't end with a dark LED bit maybe a dim white LED. This way you see exactly how long the device stays on after shutdown start
Sep 08 03:25:43 <DocScrutinizer05> s/ bit / but /
Sep 08 03:25:43 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: tip: edit LED pattern for shutdown so it doesn't end with a dark LED but maybe a dim white LED. This way you see exactly how long the device stays on after shutdown start
Sep 08 03:26:24 <DocScrutinizer05> N900/Nokia did massive cheating here ;-)
Sep 08 03:28:53 <DocScrutinizer05> until you've edited your shutdown LED pattern: *shortly* (<0.5s) pressing the power button will do nothing as long as device still is shutting down in "act-totally-dead" mode with dark LEDs, and after shutdown and power-off actually finished, it results in short lighting up of LED. Device does _not_ power up when you press button very shortly
Sep 08 04:03:59 <KotCzarny> doc, i think that led tip should be implemented for all
Sep 08 04:04:09 <KotCzarny> if it really powersdown so long
Sep 08 04:13:58 <Vajb> further observation of Qml-browser in m.facebook.com. It actually opens inbox, but not individual messages. It just shows white screen, if message is clicked to open, from inbox.
Sep 08 06:33:19 * Oksana has already edited LED pattern to cycling-infinitely one (green-purple-white), precisely for that reason . However, the device tends to restart instead of shut-down, after a power-button-long-press, which is trying for my patience
Sep 08 06:34:39 <ceene> Oksana: why dont you manually fsck your MyDocs partition and fix whatever is wrong?
Sep 08 06:35:15 <ceene> my n900 restarts too frequently instead of shutting down
Sep 08 06:35:19 <Oksana> Probably will. Not sure which switches to use. Currently, according to logs, it uses -a switch
Sep 08 06:36:07 <Oksana> Is it some dirt stuck in power-key, or what could be the reason for restart instead of shut-down?
Sep 08 06:44:28 <ceene> dunno
Sep 08 06:44:43 <ceene> i've tried lots of things but never reached any conclusion
Sep 08 06:47:04 <ceene> run fsck without options, fsck /dv/whatever, it'll ask you to decide how to fix things
Sep 08 07:43:03 * Maxdamantus wonders if his SD card has run out of write cycles or something.
Sep 08 07:43:42 <Maxdamantus> Apparently unable to write anything to it on multiple devices .. the next read just comes back with its previous contents.
Sep 08 07:46:33 <Maxdamantus> Maybe that's what was causing my system to crash, not the ext4 driver.
Sep 08 07:46:57 <Maxdamantus> (that card has been used for swap for a year or so)
Sep 08 08:09:57 <KotCzarny> hmm
Sep 08 08:11:03 <KotCzarny> isnt longpress similar to 4s power button on pc?
Sep 08 08:11:23 <KotCzarny> ie. immediate poweroff instead of powerdown call?
Sep 08 08:11:45 <KotCzarny> and if so, maybe it powersoff then button is still kept and wakes the device
Sep 08 08:11:57 <Maxdamantus> I don't think so.
Sep 08 08:12:28 <Maxdamantus> I think it still relies on software. I've sometimes had to just push the battery out when it crashes.
Sep 08 08:12:52 <KotCzarny> another guess would be shutdown reason not being saved, and n900 never really powersoff just goes into 'hidden sleep' mode and it interprets is as a reboot call
Sep 08 10:41:16 <shapeshifter> Do you fellas know if callerx (the call blocking app) is any good?
Sep 08 10:41:31 <KotCzarny> just try it?
Sep 08 10:42:38 <KotCzarny> i've only used pycallblock or something
Sep 08 10:42:49 <KotCzarny> it had some problems not remembering numbers after reboot
Sep 08 10:45:16 <shapeshifter> I constantly get calls from a bunch of number blocks. I'm trying it now. Hoping it supports wildacards
Sep 08 10:45:29 <KotCzarny> does it have any manual?
Sep 08 11:02:13 <shapeshifter> No. I looked at the source. Seems like it should work for prefix wildcards
Sep 08 11:02:37 <shapeshifter> Because it uses callerNumber.startsWith(blacklistNumber)
Sep 08 13:12:52 <ceene> how come people are not receiving messages sent to them on Yappari?
Sep 08 13:13:12 <ceene> i'm as perplex as anyone
Sep 08 13:13:23 <KotCzarny> ignore lists?
Sep 08 13:13:32 <KotCzarny> some settings?
Sep 08 13:13:41 <KotCzarny> protocol changes?
Sep 08 13:13:42 <ceene> yappari doesn't filter out messages
Sep 08 13:13:49 <ceene> and I do receive everything sent to me
Sep 08 13:13:49 <KotCzarny> but server can
Sep 08 13:14:16 <ceene> dunno
Sep 08 13:14:18 <ceene> a friend of mine
Sep 08 13:14:22 <ceene> has a very different problem
Sep 08 13:14:30 <ceene> he and her gf use official whatsapp clients
Sep 08 13:14:41 <ceene> but a third person seems to be able to read what they talk about
Sep 08 13:14:47 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 08 13:14:52 <ceene> and to speak to him as if he were the gf
Sep 08 13:15:09 <ceene> i was supposed to help him since i'm the wa "expert"
Sep 08 13:15:15 <KotCzarny> one of them logged to him? joined him into three-way room?
Sep 08 13:15:26 <ceene> but WA doesn't support several connections at the same time
Sep 08 13:15:37 <ceene> nope, the messages this third person sends look like sent from the gf
Sep 08 13:15:51 <ceene> as if he had control of the gf's phone
Sep 08 13:15:55 <KotCzarny> maybe she logged in on his computer
Sep 08 13:16:02 <ceene> but the phone has been flashed and all that
Sep 08 13:16:04 <KotCzarny> tell her to change the password
Sep 08 13:16:36 <ceene> yep, I told her to change passwords and re-register on whatsapp
Sep 08 13:16:52 <ceene> but it's got me confused
Sep 08 13:17:05 <ceene> he shouldn't be able to login with another phone posing as her
Sep 08 13:17:11 <KotCzarny> http://www.spymasterpro.com/blog/how-to-check-my-husbands-whatsapp-chats/
Sep 08 13:17:31 <KotCzarny> he he
Sep 08 13:17:44 <ceene> i thought about that, but her phone has been flashed, so there are no backdoors
Sep 08 13:17:59 <KotCzarny> maybe its the other person device?
Sep 08 13:18:06 <ceene> it's quite strange
Sep 08 13:18:25 <KotCzarny> does wa have status page about all logins and connected sessions?
Sep 08 13:18:32 <ceene> mmmmm
Sep 08 13:18:35 <ceene> don't know about that
Sep 08 13:18:37 <ceene> maybe
Sep 08 13:18:48 <ceene> i was a bit more drastic and told him to report it to the police
Sep 08 13:18:50 <ceene> :)
Sep 08 13:18:53 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 08 13:19:10 <ceene> but anyway, the tecnichal aspect of the thing has got me confused
Sep 08 13:40:06 <bencoh> 16:14 < ceene> but a third person seems to be able to read what they talk about
Sep 08 13:40:36 <bencoh> ceene: isnt it just some silly stupid conversation group artefact?
Sep 08 13:43:46 <ceene> bencoh: nope
Sep 08 13:43:56 <ceene> the strangest thing of all
Sep 08 13:44:01 <ceene> is the 3rd person sends messages
Sep 08 13:44:05 <ceene> but look like sent from the gf
Sep 08 13:44:15 <KotCzarny> then he is logged as her
Sep 08 13:44:21 <ceene> yep, so it seems
Sep 08 13:44:28 <ceene> but that simply can't be, can it?
Sep 08 13:44:31 <KotCzarny> changing pass should fix it
Sep 08 13:44:38 <ceene> WA doesn't allow two clients connected at the same time
Sep 08 13:44:44 <KotCzarny> hmm
Sep 08 13:45:05 <ceene> so even if this guy could login as her and send messages as her
Sep 08 13:45:09 <ceene> he couldn't read past conversations
Sep 08 13:45:24 <ceene> so he must be intercepting them in real time
Sep 08 13:45:52 <bencoh> or someone is doing a prank on him
Sep 08 13:46:49 <ceene> i don't think so, the thing seems a bit... serious
Sep 08 13:47:42 <ceene> he seems to randomly stalk her as well, so it's definitely not a joke between friends
Sep 08 13:48:13 <KotCzarny> but if she reflashed as you've said, then there is only possibility of: compromised router (at her or his place), multiple logins or the guys client
Sep 08 13:48:43 <ceene> yep
Sep 08 13:48:55 <ceene> i believe the multiple logins things may be it
Sep 08 13:49:00 <ceene> but as far as i know it shouldn't be possible
Sep 08 13:49:22 <ceene> in the meantime, i've just recommended them to re-register her phone number on WA, even asking for a SIM duplicate with a different IMSI
Sep 08 13:49:25 <KotCzarny> also, you can try sending mail to staff at WA
Sep 08 13:49:32 <ceene> do they answer?
Sep 08 13:49:38 <ceene> i've never talked to them
Sep 08 13:49:48 <KotCzarny> emails are cheap
Sep 08 13:49:51 <ceene> :)
Sep 08 13:50:01 <ceene> that's very true
Sep 08 13:50:03 <KotCzarny> also, legal action can be nice motivation
Sep 08 13:50:51 <ceene> yes, the situation seems to be such that i wouldn't care a lot about the WA thing, his appearing randomly at my job or my house seem much more frightening
Sep 08 14:24:56 <Vajb> shapeshifter: i use callerx in whitelist mode, but it is not too convenient. Sometimes it just blocks all calls without me changing anything. So i need to make disable-enable cycle once a day to prevent that. It's somewhat annying though.
Sep 08 14:27:00 <KotCzarny> lol
Sep 08 14:27:17 <stryngs> Oksana: All tests proved successful, doing last last flash to ensure stability and then I will provide you with the .deb you need.  I'll even go above and make it optified for ya =)
Sep 08 14:27:29 <stryngs> Oksana: Sorry for the long delay, a flash can take time sometimes =)
Sep 08 14:29:01 <KotCzarny> its irc
Sep 08 14:29:11 <KotCzarny> its normal here
Sep 08 15:21:08 <erlehmann> DocScrutinizer05 you were right, it was the cable
Sep 08 15:21:17 <erlehmann> i got a new one and the n900 works
Sep 08 17:47:55 <stryngs> Has anyone flashed recently and gone to CSSU lately??  Would love to know the ETA from begin to end .
Sep 08 17:50:08 <KotCzarny> im going when my n900 arrives
Sep 08 17:58:07 <totalizator> KotCzarny: oh? another sheep in a flock?
Sep 08 17:58:15 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 08 17:58:28 <KotCzarny> went ahead and bought two more
Sep 08 17:58:36 <totalizator> @__@
Sep 08 17:58:39 <KotCzarny> one will be called testing and one devel
Sep 08 17:58:41 <KotCzarny> ;)
Sep 08 17:59:12 <totalizator> or Beavis and Butt-head :3
Sep 08 17:59:26 <KotCzarny> you forgot about the third one
Sep 08 17:59:52 <totalizator> MOM.
Sep 08 18:00:18 <KotCzarny> i was wondering abouth fourth but it was sold quickly (30pln+shipping)
Sep 08 18:00:37 <totalizator> wwwhat?
Sep 08 18:00:41 <KotCzarny> yup, olx
Sep 08 18:00:44 <totalizator> in what condition?
Sep 08 18:00:56 <totalizator> working?
Sep 08 18:00:59 <KotCzarny> i think it was working, dont remember the breakage
Sep 08 18:01:04 <KotCzarny> but devel worthy
Sep 08 18:01:28 <KotCzarny> i would have flashed living sh*t out of it :P
Sep 08 18:01:46 <totalizator> well, all spare parts I've got is a plastic keyboard border
Sep 08 18:02:13 <totalizator> I bet you would :3
Sep 08 18:02:14 <KotCzarny> the ones i bough are 150pln (fully working but swedish) and 90pln (sd slot dead)
Sep 08 18:02:23 <KotCzarny> *bought
Sep 08 18:02:28 <totalizator> gosh - still a bargain
Sep 08 18:02:31 <KotCzarny> yup
Sep 08 18:02:44 <KotCzarny> good usb slot and all
Sep 08 18:03:00 <KotCzarny> if you know a little soldering you can have one for 59pln i think
Sep 08 18:03:09 <KotCzarny> still available i guess
Sep 08 18:03:47 <KotCzarny> ahm, no, broken screen
Sep 08 18:04:02 <KotCzarny> there is one for 100 with broken sim port
Sep 08 18:04:05 <KotCzarny> (or modem)
Sep 08 18:04:08 <totalizator> not interested at the moment - I have one N800 and one N900, both gathering dust now
Sep 08 18:04:17 <KotCzarny> wanna sell your n900?
Sep 08 18:04:33 <totalizator> you have asked before hyhy
Sep 08 18:04:40 <totalizator> not much has changed
Sep 08 18:04:45 <KotCzarny> just in case you change your mind
Sep 08 18:05:18 <totalizator> don't be cruel
Sep 08 18:05:37 <totalizator> I would never do such monstrosity
Sep 08 18:05:44 <KotCzarny> btw. you can try http://www.netsurf-browser.org/about/
Sep 08 18:05:58 <KotCzarny> didnt compile it yet, but looks promising
Sep 08 18:06:44 <totalizator> I had NS compiled for a framebuffer once
Sep 08 18:07:25 <KotCzarny> People also use NetSurf on other handheld gadgets, such as the Openmoko mobile phone and the Nokia N810 internet tablet
Sep 08 18:07:26 <KotCzarny> hmm
Sep 08 18:08:02 <KotCzarny> not in repos tho
Sep 08 18:08:02 <totalizator> got it - netsurf-framebuffer: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7363/netsurfframebuffer1.png http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/820/netsurfframebuffer2.png
Sep 08 18:09:36 <totalizator> performance has to be pretty bad unfortunately
Sep 08 18:09:51 <KotCzarny> i have high hopes in it in gtk mode
Sep 08 18:10:02 <totalizator> I doubt it
Sep 08 18:10:17 <totalizator> but hey - let's checkt this out
Sep 08 18:10:42 <KotCzarny> anyway, my n900 just left jelenia gora, maybe ill start devving tomorrow
Sep 08 18:10:45 <KotCzarny> can't wait
Sep 08 18:24:22 <stryngs> Oksana: When you get a moment, please PM me.
Sep 08 19:14:23 <totalizator> dev it a warm welcome :3
Sep 08 19:14:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ?
Sep 08 19:18:10 <totalizator> → KotCzarny
Sep 08 19:19:38 <bencoh> html4/css2 and a nightly js engine ... hmm
Sep 08 19:20:10 <bencoh> (the js engine is quite new and makes it an interesting alternative to dillo though)
Sep 08 19:23:31 <KotCzarny> totalizator: what do you mean by 'warm' ?
Sep 08 19:26:03 <totalizator> 900MHz minimum
Sep 08 19:26:30 <totalizator> [I have to stop it - my jokes are always so low :D]
Sep 08 19:28:15 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 08 20:35:33 <Wizzup> Managed to start x on the mainline n900 as well - had trouble with gprs and ofono though
Sep 08 20:35:39 <Wizzup> nokia-modem probes with an error
Sep 08 20:35:43 <Wizzup> will elaborate a bit more later
Sep 08 20:35:55 <Wizzup> s/mainline/pali's mainline + patches kernel/
Sep 08 20:36:12 <KotCzarny> good new bad news
Sep 08 20:36:41 <erlehmann> Wizzup what are you trying?
Sep 08 20:36:53 <KotCzarny> most likely a native gentoo
Sep 08 20:36:55 <KotCzarny> he he
Sep 08 20:37:01 <Wizzup> yes :)
Sep 08 20:37:07 <Wizzup> touchscreen also seemed to work - but not calibrated yet
Sep 08 20:37:24 <Wizzup> erlehmann: I am trying to get the kernel from elinux.org/N900 to work good enough for a normal gnu/linux
Sep 08 20:37:35 <erlehmann> \o/
Sep 08 20:37:53 <Wizzup> I mean, I am just playing around / testing. (Many) other people did the hard work on the kernel
Sep 08 20:38:38 <Wizzup> next step is to check if audio still needs some high pass filter, see if audio works, then try gprs again
Sep 08 20:40:01 <NIN101> good luck :-).
Sep 08 20:40:02 * Sicelo last played with 3.15. gprs/3g worked fine with debian & arch
Sep 08 20:40:38 <KotCzarny> 3.15 might be new enough for recent glibc
Sep 08 20:42:08 * Sicelo should stop being lazy & get back to hacking too
Sep 08 20:42:15 <KotCzarny> :)
Sep 08 20:43:02 <Sicelo> when i got 2nd N900, that was the idea, but now using it as a 2nd daily phone 
Sep 08 20:43:14 <KotCzarny> buy another!
Sep 08 20:44:14 <Sicelo> can't afford one from overseas .. haven't seen one locally. if one turns up, definitely buying it
Sep 08 20:44:33 <Sicelo> usb broken ones i can negotiate down ;)
Sep 08 20:45:05 <KotCzarny> which country?
Sep 08 20:45:11 <Sicelo> South Africa
Sep 08 20:45:35 <Sicelo> or Swaziland (my home country).
Sep 08 20:45:39 <KotCzarny> hmm, a bit to the south
Sep 08 20:48:07 <Sicelo> i'll just have to make the best of the 2 i already have
Sep 08 20:55:52 * stryngs pokes Oksanaa with a rusty butterknife
Sep 08 20:56:46 <Wizzup> Sicelo: yeah, wrt gprs I think some gpio definitions are missing
Sep 08 20:57:01 <Wizzup> at least that is what the nokia-modem module complains about. but like I said - to be continued later
Sep 08 20:57:04 <Wizzup> been a long day :) 
Sep 08 21:00:23 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: glibc or musl, yeah
Sep 08 21:03:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ((<Wizzup> next step is to check if audio still needs some high pass filter)) how could that possibly have changed?
Sep 08 21:03:58 <DocScrutinizer05> the question rather is the next one you posted: if audio works
Sep 08 21:03:59 <KotCzarny> l29ah tried musl and it wasnt good enough
Sep 08 21:04:46 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: it appears to work fine
Sep 08 21:04:54 <Wizzup> I just didn't go through the >1000 switches to figure out which ones
Sep 08 21:05:02 <DocScrutinizer05> hehe
Sep 08 21:05:05 <Wizzup> ARM Chromebooks have similar amount of switches
Sep 08 21:05:15 <Wizzup> Left Speaker Left DAC ... Left Speaker Right DAC ...
Sep 08 21:05:19 <DocScrutinizer05> yes, audio mixers are monsters
Sep 08 21:05:26 <Wizzup> Right Speaker Left DAC ... Right Speaker Right DAC...
Sep 08 21:05:28 <Wizzup> yeah.
Sep 08 21:05:33 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: I run it on a few machines, works fine (musl)
Sep 08 21:05:59 <DocScrutinizer05> you only can get a hold on the meaning of that when you study the datasheet of the mixer
Sep 08 21:06:02 <Wizzup> oh yeah, and hostmode is also something I want to look into a bit later
Sep 08 21:06:09 <Wizzup> yeah, probably...
Sep 08 21:07:44 <DocScrutinizer05> plus the device schematics of course, since more often than not the name of a control is in line with the naming in datasheet but not in line how that signal line / control element is actually used in that particular device
Sep 08 21:08:49 <Wizzup> I was hoping to find someone who used it/worked on it spoonfeed me ;)
Sep 08 21:08:57 <Wizzup> to spoonfeed*
Sep 08 21:09:09 <DocScrutinizer05> stereo-line-in goes to e.g. BT and stereo-line-out to the earpiece or maybe the FM radio TX
Sep 08 21:09:28 <DocScrutinizer05> (madeup example)
Sep 08 21:10:18 <DocScrutinizer05> and then there's a lot of stuff like e.g. sidetone etc which doesn't make sense at all to you unless you understand exactly how the mixer works inside that particular device
Sep 08 21:10:42 <DocScrutinizer05> lots of the controls are useless or even a "DONT TOUCH!"
Sep 08 21:11:24 <DocScrutinizer05> the mixer chip is generic and has lots of features not needed or even messing up stuff in the application at hand
Sep 08 21:11:43 <KotCzarny> yeah, there is a switch to enable voltage on jack detection
Sep 08 21:12:16 <Sicelo> can't you just set them as close as possible to default Maemo settings Wizzup?
Sep 08 21:12:41 <DocScrutinizer05> e.g. you can switch each pair of input and output lines between differential mone and stereo and 2 independent channels. Usually only one of the three matches your usecase
Sep 08 21:12:43 <Wizzup> Sicelo: probably - should try that
Sep 08 21:13:05 <DocScrutinizer05> s/mone/mono/
Sep 08 21:13:06 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: e.g. you can switch each pair of input and output lines between differential mono and stereo and 2 independent channels. Usually only one of the three matches your usecase
Sep 08 21:13:10 <KotCzarny> alsactl store/restore ?
Sep 08 21:13:50 <DocScrutinizer05> alsactl is sort of redundant
Sep 08 21:14:04 <DocScrutinizer05> nothing you couldn't do with amixer as well
Sep 08 21:15:15 <DocScrutinizer05> http://paste.opensuse.org/1352651
Sep 08 21:15:46 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: if they are identical then yes
Sep 08 21:16:09 <KotCzarny> dump them then diff
Sep 08 21:16:21 <Wizzup> yep
Sep 08 21:16:46 <DocScrutinizer05> use amixer instead alsactl
Sep 08 21:16:53 <Wizzup> ack
Sep 08 21:20:01 <Sicelo> nemo/mer abandoned N900 by the way?
Sep 08 21:21:09 <DocScrutinizer05> Wizzup: feel free to copy me here
Sep 08 21:21:27 <DocScrutinizer05> Sicelo: I'd say yes
Sep 08 21:22:42 <DocScrutinizer05> http://lwn.net/Articles/420775/
Sep 08 21:30:11 <Wizzup> DocScrutinizer05: :)
Sep 08 21:30:16 <Wizzup> nn
Sep 08 21:30:42 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
Sep 08 21:30:53 <DocScrutinizer05> http://paste.opensuse.org/1352651 line 111 ff
Sep 08 21:31:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I still doubt this is supposed to be in a working state on N900/fremantle, but I have no doubt it *could* get bashed into shape to work
Sep 08 21:32:46 <DocScrutinizer05> some devices use a dedicated MCU to "speak" ECI protocol, on N900 there's some hw support for ECI by some volatge comparators that directly interface to the OMAP CPU
Sep 08 21:33:12 <Wizzup> well, if you have one of those nokia headsets still
Sep 08 21:33:16 <Wizzup> they register as in input device
Sep 08 21:33:24 <Wizzup> and have a button to pick up a call
Sep 08 21:33:32 <Wizzup> at least IIRC
Sep 08 21:33:55 <DocScrutinizer05> all it needs is a kernel driver getting invoked on an IRQ on the according GPIO pin (called "ECI" iirc ;-D ) and then bitbanging that simple singlewire serial low baudrate protocol
Sep 08 21:34:28 <DocScrutinizer05> no, those with one button are not ECI. Those with multiple buttons though are
Sep 08 21:34:34 <Wizzup> aha
Sep 08 21:34:38 <Wizzup> okay -afk :)
Sep 08 21:34:42 <DocScrutinizer05> o/
Sep 08 21:35:58 <DocScrutinizer05> when you press a button on an ECI headset, the headset starts serial communication on the mic line, much like you would do very fast morse on a one-button headset holdbutton
Sep 08 21:36:42 <DocScrutinizer05> this should trigger the comparators in N900 and cause a GPIO to change state which should cause an IRQ and invoke the kernel handler
Sep 08 21:39:56 <DocScrutinizer05> the kernel handler then establishes a half-duplex bidir communication to the ECI, answering the headset's 'request' by similarly pulling mic line to ground like ECI headset does. The headset has a buffer capacitor for the embedded controller power supply so it can work while the power supply line that's what mic line basically is gets pulsed to GND by either the headset itself or the phone
Sep 08 21:43:44 <DocScrutinizer05> there are other kernel drivers working almost identical. See Openmoko Freerunner GTA02 smart battery monitor HDQ singlewire protocol
Sep 08 21:44:51 <DocScrutinizer05> (HDQ described in datasheet of BQ27200)
Sep 09 01:34:01 <stryngs> For those who might want to try things a bit differently withb their n900:  http://n900-hackers.org
Sep 09 01:34:09 <stryngs> Enjoy =)  It's been a work in progress since 2012!
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