**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 29 02:59:58 2015 Sep 29 03:02:21 ebzzry: >> /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/dbus_shift_ctrl (*) If the value of this key is true, then ctrl-shift-letter combinations are reported on the d-bus, allowing implementation of global shortcut keys. H,N,P,X are reported on the dbus only if the previous key is false.<< Sep 29 03:02:42 ebzzry: [2015-09-29 Tue 04:59:00] DocScrutinizer05 http://web.archive.org/web/20120709095945/http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html Sep 29 03:02:55 ~pkg Sep 29 03:02:56 from memory, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ Sep 29 03:03:38 ebzzry: http://maemo.org/packages/view/dbus-scripts/ Sep 29 03:04:21 ^^^ is basically the python script you need to actually trigger actions when /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/dbus_shift_ctrl reports pressing of a hotkey to dbus Sep 29 03:04:34 d-bus pig disgusting Sep 29 03:20:17 http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#random_stuff_to_config_.2F_fix_.27things.27_.28c.26p_to_shell.29 Sep 29 03:21:49 oha Sep 29 04:53:17 shit! X-Archive-Wayback-Runtime-Error: ResourceNotInArchiveException: http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/binary/keyboard-shortcuts_1.2_all.deb was not found Sep 29 04:54:33 http://web.archive.org/web/20100414104505/http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/binary/keyboard-shortcuts_1.2_all.deb Sep 29 04:57:18 hmmmpf he's gone Sep 29 04:57:33 ebzzry: http://my.svgalib.org/repo/binary/keyboard-shortcuts_1.2_all.deb Sep 29 05:05:29 http://paste.opensuse.org/42878270 Sep 29 05:06:43 http://my.svgalib.org/repo/binary/keyboard-shortcuts_1.3_all.deb actually Sep 29 05:08:51 ebzzry: get and install this .deb, should 'just work'. check the keyboard-shortcuts file in /etc/ err dbus-scripts (or somesuch), it's pretty well commented and easy to understand. You edit your desktop hotkeys there Sep 29 05:09:06 see http://paste.opensuse.org/42878270 Sep 29 05:18:24 actually http://my.svgalib.org/ is the new http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/ Sep 29 05:19:09 ~matan Sep 29 05:19:26 ~matan is actually http://my.svgalib.org/ is the new http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/ Sep 29 05:19:26 DocScrutinizer05: okay Sep 29 05:19:29 ~matan Sep 29 05:19:29 rumour has it, matan is actually http://my.svgalib.org/ is the new http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/ Sep 29 05:21:34 merlin1991: could we get a mirror of all that stuff (maemo / MHD related) in CSSU repo? Sep 29 05:22:33 merlin1991: http://my.svgalib.org/repo/binary/keyboard-shortcuts_1.3_all.deb clearly is a package meant to work with MHD only, so prolly shouldn't go to extras Sep 29 05:23:01 instead it should go to CSSU-extras (though we prolly still don't have any such repo?) Sep 29 07:05:07 krhrhr: http://my.svgalib.org/770/n900/bq27x00_battery.c Sep 29 07:08:25 http://my.svgalib.org/770/n900/keyboard-shortcuts.install Sep 29 07:53:00 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/ and http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/ Sep 29 07:53:31 yw Sep 29 07:53:55 moin :) Sep 29 07:54:36 ~matan is also http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/ Sep 29 07:54:42 DocScrutinizer05: okay Sep 29 07:54:50 ~matan Sep 29 07:54:50 extra, extra, read all about it, matan is actually http://my.svgalib.org/ is the new http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/ Sep 29 07:55:36 ~mhd Sep 29 07:55:36 extra, extra, read all about it, mhd is Modified Hildon Desktop. See ~CSSU and http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html Sep 29 07:56:46 infobot: no, mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan Sep 29 07:56:46 DocScrutinizer05: okay Sep 29 07:56:50 ~mhd Sep 29 07:56:50 [mhd] Modified Hildon Desktop. See ~CSSU and http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html Sep 29 07:57:19 ~literal mhd Sep 29 07:57:19 "#maemo mhd" is "Modified Hildon Desktop. See ~CSSU and http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html" Sep 29 07:57:35 ~factinfo mhd Sep 29 07:57:35 mhd -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> 49s ago. Sep 29 07:57:51 ~forget mhd Sep 29 07:57:51 DocScrutinizer05: i forgot mhd Sep 29 07:57:56 ~unforget mhd Sep 29 07:57:56 DocScrutinizer05: Successfully recovered 'mhd'. Have fun now. Sep 29 07:58:04 ~factinfo mhd Sep 29 07:58:04 mhd -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> 1m 18s ago; last modified 13s ago by docscrutinizer05. Sep 29 07:58:14 ~listkeys mhd Sep 29 07:58:15 Factoid search of 'mhd' by key (3): mhdns ;; mhd ;; #maemo mhd. Sep 29 07:58:30 ~forget mhd Sep 29 07:58:30 DocScrutinizer05: i forgot mhd Sep 29 07:58:43 infobot: no, #maemo mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan Sep 29 07:58:43 DocScrutinizer05: okay Sep 29 07:58:52 ~mhd Sep 29 07:58:52 rumour has it, mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan Sep 29 07:59:11 ~listkeys mhd Sep 29 07:59:12 Factoid search of 'mhd' by key (3): mhdns ;; mhd #DEL# ;; #maemo mhd. Sep 29 08:03:17 ~mhd is also http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent! Sep 29 08:03:17 DocScrutinizer05: okay Sep 29 08:03:33 ~mhd Sep 29 08:03:33 [mhd] [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan Sep 29 08:03:37 grrr Sep 29 08:03:50 ~forget mhd Sep 29 08:03:51 i forgot mhd, DocScrutinizer05 Sep 29 08:04:00 ~#maemo mhd is also http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent! Sep 29 08:04:00 okay, DocScrutinizer05 Sep 29 08:04:04 ~mhd Sep 29 08:04:04 i heard mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent! Sep 29 09:46:57 ~forget is forgetful Sep 29 09:46:57 Maxdamantus: i didn't have anything called 'is forgetful' to forget Sep 29 09:47:24 ~forget what he has said Sep 29 09:47:24 KotCzarny: i didn't have anything called 'what he has said' to forget Sep 29 09:50:57 ~forget everything Sep 29 09:50:57 i forgot everything, princefakhan_ Sep 29 09:51:06 Oh no. Sep 29 09:51:17 Don't infobot Sep 29 09:51:45 Damn! I put a space before the command Sep 29 09:51:58 Did he really forget everything? Sep 29 09:52:14 guess Sep 29 09:53:03 Shites! We gotta retrain him then Sep 29 09:53:24 Didn't know everyone has this type of access to the bot Sep 29 09:53:29 ~mhd Sep 29 09:53:30 i guess mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent! Sep 29 09:53:49 Ah! Sep 29 09:54:10 ~everything Sep 29 09:54:33 EH! Nothing. Sep 29 09:54:46 I was scared as shit. Damn! Sep 29 09:54:57 ~freedom is slavery Sep 29 09:54:57 ...but freedom is already something else... Sep 29 09:55:06 ~freedom Sep 29 09:55:07 rumour has it, freedom is the ultimate virtue. Without freedom we are no better than any other animal. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. another word for nothing left to loose Sep 29 09:55:25 ~war is peace Sep 29 09:55:25 ...but war is already something else... Sep 29 09:55:33 ~war Sep 29 09:55:34 WAR IS THE SPORT OF THE MASSES! WAR IS OUR GAME! WAAAAAARRRR!!!! Sep 29 09:55:38 ~war Sep 29 09:55:52 ~ignorance is strength Sep 29 09:55:52 ...but ignorance is already something else... Sep 29 09:55:59 ~ignorance Sep 29 09:55:59 Ignorance is bliss! Sep 29 09:56:06 -_- Sep 29 09:56:20 He knows too much Sep 29 09:56:33 I wonder if he does something like skynet Sep 29 09:58:20 ~+status Sep 29 09:58:20 Since Mon Sep 28 14:19:23 2015, there have been 10 modifications, 20 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 8 commands. I have been awake for 19h 38m 57s this session, and currently reference 119447 factoids. I'm using about 83148 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 125.87/2.49 child 0/0 Sep 29 09:59:00 0 morons? Sep 29 09:59:35 actually I didn't find out yet what "morons" are, in infobot's world. Maybe ask her? Sep 29 09:59:41 ~morons Sep 29 09:59:42 * infobot cluebats some morons over the head Sep 29 09:59:54 ~moron Sep 29 09:59:54 extra, extra, read all about it, moron is someone that types long lines starting with "infobot" Sep 29 10:00:04 ;-D Sep 29 10:00:05 I pm'd him. Sep 29 10:00:08 ~mormons Sep 29 10:00:08 well, mormons is members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Sep 29 10:00:11 Thats what ye said Sep 29 10:00:35 ~muslims Sep 29 10:00:52 ~life Sep 29 10:00:53 42 (duh.) Sep 29 10:00:55 ~danish Sep 29 10:00:55 i guess danish is better than swedish. To get danish support in KDE do: apt-get install kde-i18n-da, or a damn fine pastry Sep 29 10:00:57 heh Sep 29 10:01:17 ~swedish Sep 29 10:01:18 extra, extra, read all about it, swedish is better than finnish, or #debian.se, or the gay and swinger communities term for a plain good old hand-job Sep 29 10:01:32 Lol Sep 29 10:01:42 Ei ole. Sep 29 10:01:49 ~finnish Sep 29 10:01:50 hmm... finnish is better than norweigan, or a misspelling of a popular type of polish Sep 29 10:01:54 How does he compare languages? Sep 29 10:01:57 Se on. Sep 29 10:02:21 ~factinfo finnish Sep 29 10:02:22 finnish -- last modified at Fri May 9 11:15:22 2003 by ricky_clarkson!~ricky_cla@newton-1003.salford.ac.uk; it has been requested 4 times, last by Maxdamantus, 32s ago. Sep 29 10:02:55 ~factinfo danish Sep 29 10:02:55 danish -- last modified at Tue Nov 4 00:23:26 2003 by g4lt!galt@134.50.70.19; it has been requested 5 times, last by Maxdamantus, 2m ago. Sep 29 10:03:29 ~windows Sep 29 10:03:29 extra, extra, read all about it, windows is either a 64bit hack on the 32 bit hack or just a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs, or bloatware, or an operating system Sep 29 10:04:10 Huh. :) Sep 29 10:04:46 ~apple Sep 29 10:04:47 apple is probably a fruit or a company that makes iPods, iPads, iPhones, and Macs, or the thing that Satan used to tempt Eve Sep 29 10:05:02 >World of Warcraft bootloader Sep 29 10:05:08 its an OS Sep 29 10:05:17 so is GRUB. Sep 29 10:05:19 Haha Sep 29 10:05:33 grub does provide EFI filesystem drivers Sep 29 10:05:46 I'd consider EFI an OS as well Sep 29 10:05:55 * Maxdamantus wants to run GRUB on his N900. Sep 29 10:06:15 Just replace those products to iCraps Sep 29 10:06:16 it didn't work last time I tried. Maybe will try again soon. Sep 29 10:06:17 uGrub Sep 29 10:06:25 * jon_y wants a Xeon in his n900 Sep 29 10:06:27 Or iShits Sep 29 10:06:41 dem sweet 28 core CPUs Sep 29 10:06:42 Maxdamantus: you can run grub on arm Sep 29 10:06:44 if you must Sep 29 10:06:59 Yeah, you can build a grub that should run from u-boot, supposedly reusing its terminal etc Sep 29 10:07:33 Wizzup: yes, but "ARM" doesn't encapsulate something suitable for a display. Sep 29 10:07:48 unlike x86, which might be assumed to include VGA. Sep 29 10:08:18 there's simplefb Sep 29 10:08:20 back later. Sep 29 10:08:56 x86 as ACPI Sep 29 10:09:02 n900 arm doesn't Sep 29 10:09:04 yet Sep 29 10:09:19 I'm sure someone can write a bootloader to put up a fake one Sep 29 10:09:37 since the n900 doesn't actually have changing hardware Sep 29 10:10:47 Oh! Cmon Sep 29 10:10:56 I so hate this phone. Sep 29 10:11:27 jon_y: actually recent arm has acpi Sep 29 10:11:50 https://wiki.linaro.org/LEG/Engineering/Kernel/ACPI Sep 29 10:12:36 Wizzup: I know Sep 29 10:12:49 but it isn't a mandatory spec for arm manufacturers to use Sep 29 10:13:05 iirc most ARM devices still use device trees Sep 29 10:13:18 see also https://lwn.net/Articles/574439/ Sep 29 10:13:22 jon_y: luckily, yes. Sep 29 10:13:29 UEFI for arm is a thing too Sep 29 10:13:29 afk Sep 29 10:13:34 though not everydon does it Sep 29 10:29:47 princefakhan: what exactly do you hate? Sep 29 10:30:15 It's an android device Sep 29 10:30:54 It has 2 gigs of memory, and it still restarts when usage reaches more than 90% Sep 29 10:31:04 customized or stock? Sep 29 10:31:33 I would say customised. Cyanogen OS. Sep 29 10:31:55 I was thinking of rooting it, and installing Cm. Sep 29 10:32:00 do you have a swap partition? Sep 29 10:32:21 At least I would get Android 5.1 Sep 29 10:32:34 Nah! No swap. Sep 29 10:33:07 that would explain the reboot Sep 29 10:33:20 OOMKILLA on the loose Sep 29 10:33:33 I wish android phones come with serial ports Sep 29 10:33:34 I didn't even have many things running. Sep 29 10:33:51 This one is badly optimized. Sep 29 10:34:01 yeah well, everyone writes the app in managed languages Sep 29 10:34:03 all GC Sep 29 10:34:10 and GC didn't do its job Sep 29 10:34:24 Haha. Sep 29 10:34:32 jon_y: even with oomkilla, properly configured it will kill the right thing Sep 29 10:34:54 maybe it did kill the right thing Sep 29 10:35:01 I have this IRC client, Firefox with 5 pages, and mix radio, and ram usage is already 25% Sep 29 10:35:14 and the watchdog program rebooted the OS to bring it back up Sep 29 10:35:16 EH m! 75 Sep 29 10:35:41 princefakhan: if you just want internet radio you might want to try my droid app Sep 29 10:35:55 Why not! Sep 29 10:35:56 wrote it because i wasnt able to find non-mem hogging ones Sep 29 10:36:26 http://sourceforge.net/projects/oscp/files/tmp/kccr_app-release.apk/download Sep 29 10:36:43 didnt try it with anything 4.0+ tho Sep 29 10:37:05 but its small, has playlist support, big buttons and few other features Sep 29 10:37:09 does it require positional data to work? :) Sep 29 10:37:10 Damn! I forgot oscp is cross-platform. Sep 29 10:37:31 Well let me be the tester. :) Sep 29 10:37:33 princefakhan: its not oscp, just related Sep 29 10:37:44 Hmmm. Sep 29 10:38:05 but as i said, if you need radio player with a playlist, its perfect Sep 29 10:38:14 did i say its small and has big buttons? Sep 29 10:38:20 can it have multilayer playlists? Sep 29 10:38:23 Well thanks. Sep 29 10:38:24 jon_y: not yet Sep 29 10:38:26 :) Sep 29 10:38:26 You did. Sep 29 10:38:38 ok, feature request! :) Sep 29 10:38:55 * jon_y doesn't own any android phone though Sep 29 10:38:58 jon_y: what would that do? apart from displaying positional ads? Sep 29 10:39:07 jon_y: install droid sdk, bam! Sep 29 10:39:28 KotCzarny: probably Sep 29 10:39:39 I don't work in ad companies Sep 29 10:40:02 maybe disable certain radio stations because you can Sep 29 10:40:11 based on position data Sep 29 10:40:27 "Sorry this station is only available in Korea" Sep 29 10:40:33 for no reason Sep 29 10:40:52 "sorry, you need to move 3 steps to the left to play this radio" Sep 29 10:41:04 "no, the other left" Sep 29 10:41:20 and use your addressbook Sep 29 10:41:26 and facebook data Sep 29 10:41:31 and text data Sep 29 10:41:33 i wonder if kccr would work in apkenv Sep 29 10:43:07 Haha. Sep 29 10:43:38 Well does anyone use apkenv now Sep 29 10:44:40 Tho, KotCzarny the buttons overlap in landscape mode on my phone. Sep 29 10:45:15 princefakhan: can you make a screenshot? which os, what resolution Sep 29 10:45:38 (it was only really tested in 2.3.x) Sep 29 10:46:10 Well I did. I have no idea where to post the screenshot. Sep 29 10:46:18 imgur.com Sep 29 10:46:41 they dont even require account Sep 29 10:46:50 the best image sharer Sep 29 10:47:00 The os is Cyanogen OS. CM v Sep 29 10:47:22 CM v12 based on Android 5.0.2 Sep 29 10:48:03 :) Sep 29 10:48:48 so, are there any android devices with SD cards left? Sep 29 10:49:05 new ones? Sep 29 10:49:11 yeah Sep 29 10:49:23 nexus 6 or some such Sep 29 10:49:33 hmm, samsung galaxy "some model" has it Sep 29 10:49:51 hmm ok, samsung is still an ass Sep 29 10:52:01 http://imgur.com/GQKEpde,6sBtUc4 Sep 29 10:52:32 hmm Sep 29 10:52:48 they dont overlap, just this middle part is too big Sep 29 10:53:13 also, it might be its not using landscape mode files Sep 29 10:53:43 but otherwise it works? Sep 29 10:53:45 Well, you are the boss now. Sep 29 10:53:51 Yeah. Sep 29 10:53:58 Well one more thing. Sep 29 10:54:09 playlist should reside in /sdcard/fav.m3u or favs.m3u dont remember Sep 29 10:54:20 or /mnt/sdcard Sep 29 10:54:32 The menu where you have local, favorites fav2, etc Sep 29 10:54:42 Local button doesn't work. Sep 29 10:55:06 could be different fs layout/access rights Sep 29 10:55:41 i wrote it long time ago, works well enough and no one requested any feats Sep 29 10:56:08 That explains it. Google fucked up the SD card permissions since android kitkat Sep 29 10:56:16 also, if you start playing, it will play in the background, to fully quit press stop before quit Sep 29 10:58:02 :) Sep 29 10:58:36 Well, a little lollipop love, and this app should work great. Sep 29 10:58:48 I mean, completely. Sep 29 10:59:18 :) Sep 29 10:59:56 Does anyone know of a fm transmitter for Android. Sep 29 11:00:05 i might update it for newer androids Sep 29 11:00:13 I miss that feature from Nokias so much Sep 29 11:00:33 there are fm transmitters attachable to headphones jack Sep 29 11:01:08 Oh no! Not that. Sep 29 11:01:33 U am talking about the app that came with Nokia phones. Sep 29 11:01:44 It is in n900 too. Sep 29 11:02:00 but to be working it needs proper hardware Sep 29 11:02:05 which is missing in most phones Sep 29 11:02:30 You open the music player, set a frequency from the app in device, set the same frequency on your car radio, and boom Sep 29 11:02:48 Awww! Sep 29 11:03:05 I thought it was all software. Sep 29 11:03:08 and i bet on the ones which DO have needed hardware, there will be such app/feature in software Sep 29 11:03:10 nope Sep 29 11:03:38 Probably why I don't know of any such app on Android. Sep 29 11:15:12 a nice litte app for N900 (yet to be written): tune your car stereo to an "empty frequency", hit the magic app on N900 and N900 automatically tunes in to the frequency your car stereo is on. How it works? simply by listening to the N900's microphone to hear if the radio plays back what the N900 sends Sep 29 11:16:32 DocScrutinizer05: the n900 can also search radio freqs Sep 29 11:16:36 is that not easier? Sep 29 11:16:46 different use case Sep 29 11:16:49 I know it can search. Sep 29 11:16:56 KotCzarny: not diffent use case Sep 29 11:17:03 you make the n900 find an empty freq and BC on it Sep 29 11:17:18 but that doesn't help to avoid tuning car stereo to the frequency that's shown in N900 display Sep 29 11:17:21 does it know which freq car radio is set to? Sep 29 11:17:28 KotCzarny: ??? Sep 29 11:17:33 see ^ Sep 29 11:17:34 oooo Sep 29 11:17:40 I am totally misreading? Sep 29 11:17:42 yes Sep 29 11:17:46 seems like it. Sep 29 11:17:47 :) Sep 29 11:17:48 oh well Sep 29 11:17:51 I liked my application too ^_^ Sep 29 11:18:18 though tbh i just programmed one of the buttons to the nokia's freq Sep 29 11:18:33 107.9 Sep 29 11:18:35 alas the FM-TX antenna in N900 is pretty poor for RX, and the FM-RX is bound to a headset attached Sep 29 11:18:48 yeh Sep 29 11:19:43 so neither the build-in frequency-scanner in TX chip nor the FM radio could reliably check for empty frequencies Sep 29 11:20:50 however as mentioned above, you can search for empty frequency on your car stereo, and N900 would automagically tune in to the right frequency, while you wouldn't need to know at all which is that particular frequency Sep 29 11:21:18 car radios also support scanning for stations Sep 29 11:21:31 that's pretty useless Sep 29 11:21:33 which just means starting n900 and pushing scan button few times Sep 29 11:21:37 for this usecase Sep 29 11:22:53 Qwertyuoopasdfghjllzxcvvb Sep 29 11:23:02 and how would you make sure the frequency used by N900 is a *good* one? with no interference by a commercial broadcast station Sep 29 11:23:04 Oops sorry Sep 29 11:23:18 doc, no commerdial radio uses 107.9 in pl Sep 29 11:23:26 *commercial Sep 29 11:24:20 ok, when I actually ever write such app, I'll add a .pl mode that simply uses 107.9 when in Poland Sep 29 11:24:46 should work Sep 29 11:24:58 now, add gps to the app too Sep 29 11:25:18 and maybe mind reading so n900 will know the user wants to listen to the radio Sep 29 11:25:25 which would be awesome Sep 29 11:25:27 or wait, I' simply ignore poland and state that it doesn't work there Sep 29 11:26:13 :) Sep 29 11:26:19 still, needs gps Sep 29 11:26:35 no Sep 29 11:26:59 and I got no time to do that sort of sophism discussion Sep 29 11:27:26 we all know that, thats why you are on irc Sep 29 11:27:40 (which is a known time waster) Sep 29 11:28:37 yeah, indeed, all the time kicking users like you consumes lots of time, particularly when you don't do it right away and instead try to explain why they are in for a kick with their nonsense Sep 29 11:30:18 ~nokia Sep 29 11:30:18 rumour has it, nokia is a cellphone company from Finland. Sep 29 11:30:28 Not anymore infobot Sep 29 11:30:36 most bullies are psychopaths Sep 29 11:30:45 and/or sociopaths Sep 29 11:31:12 ~sociopath Sep 29 11:31:26 social paths~ Sep 29 11:31:39 socialpuffs Sep 29 11:31:42 :) Sep 29 11:31:47 :) Sep 29 11:32:13 abusing one's power is sure sign of such Sep 29 11:32:19 Wasn't it t9000 Sep 29 11:32:27 you're begging for a ban, eh? Sep 29 11:32:53 ...? Sep 29 11:33:38 Who? Sep 29 11:35:04 that guy who couldn't help but getting personal when I told I have no time to discuss nonsense like mindreading, which obviously was meant as a (unsound) criticism of a nice concept for an app Sep 29 11:35:42 KotCzarny: technically you could hook up some openerp (or whatever it is called) Sep 29 11:35:49 and it could read your mind Sep 29 11:36:17 EH m! Okay Sep 29 11:36:34 Is there anything not possible? Sep 29 11:36:52 wizzup, is it at the stage when it can be used in the field? Sep 29 11:37:01 somewhat, I think Sep 29 11:37:07 I get to play with it in a few weeks probably Sep 29 11:37:09 ie. size/battery drain Sep 29 11:37:14 uhhh that I don't know. Sep 29 12:11:11 it's quite easy to make FM transmitter work with headphones attached Sep 29 12:12:12 What is that camera app wherein you can specify where to focus by tapping on that area of the view? Sep 29 12:12:47 in my experience, not that it helps much, though, if there's a nearby station (both in terms of distance and frequency) the antenna won't be of very much help Sep 29 12:12:50 maybe it's fcamera? Sep 29 12:17:50 beware of the whole fcam drivers issue.... Sep 29 12:19:34 what's wrong with them? Sep 29 12:22:08 afaik there's no such cam app on N900 Sep 29 12:22:59 I think that's N9 which does that touch-to-focus thing Sep 29 12:23:25 can't recall to have seen it on N900 Sep 29 12:24:07 what is the point of having that touch-to-focus if you have HW button for that purpose is beyond my understanding Sep 29 12:25:04 it is possible to use front webcam in cam app? Sep 29 12:25:08 then, I only know fcam, nicocam aka CSSU-T cam, BlessN900 and stock. And afaik none of them does focus-on-touch, but maybe I forgot Sep 29 12:25:17 Maybe it was just my device, but having FCam modified camera firmware made my device rather unstable when using the camera. Once every ~ten times I was taking pictures the thing would simply freeze forcing slapping out the battery and as a result occasionally causing corrupted filesystem, forcing a manual fsck. Sep 29 12:25:19 Pali: sure Sep 29 12:25:40 Pali: in theory. some cam app can even switch to front cam iirc Sep 29 12:26:12 I was not able to use front cam in any app except gmail video call Sep 29 12:26:27 mirror? Sep 29 12:26:38 mirror show me dard screen Sep 29 12:27:03 mirror works, but you need to tweak brightenss etc by some other means Sep 29 12:27:05 looks like color auto adjust or white balance not working... Sep 29 12:27:16 but it works fine in video calls... Sep 29 12:27:18 umm, first start another app that uses and thus configures the chip Sep 29 12:27:37 because gtalk/skype adjust the controls Sep 29 12:27:39 so I would expect that cam app should support it Sep 29 12:27:43 somehow Sep 29 12:28:06 it does not, afaik it is very simple app Sep 29 12:31:29 IroN900:~# cat bin/videostreaming Sep 29 12:31:31 gst-launch v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! videoscale! video/x-raw-yuv,width=320,height=240 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! jpegenc ! tcpserversink host=$pcip port=5000 Sep 29 12:31:32 IroN900:~# Sep 29 12:32:00 switch video0 to video1 for other cam Sep 29 12:37:32 http://wstaw.org/m/2015/09/29/plasma-desktopRb9051.png gst-launch-0.10 tcpclientsrc host=192.168.4.41 port=5000 ! jpegdec ! autovideosink Sep 29 12:50:31 whitebalance with front cam is aweful Sep 29 12:51:05 having touch-to-focus would help users with dead camera button (not that there are any) Sep 29 12:51:23 unless one talks about focusing on specific part of the picture Sep 29 13:15:14 What is a decent browser, aside from MicroB? Sep 29 13:15:45 fennec, opera, midori, qmlwebkit and few others Sep 29 13:15:55 KotCzarny: thanks Sep 29 13:16:21 fennec is fierfox 17 but compiled only for cssu-thumb Sep 29 13:16:29 KotCzarny: ok Sep 29 13:16:39 (or cssu, dont remember) Sep 29 13:16:47 fennec is firefox, but not really firefox Sep 29 13:16:54 it's a diff ui for the same rendering engine Sep 29 13:17:29