**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 10 02:59:59 2015 Oct 10 10:14:49 /win 13 Oct 10 10:14:54 er Oct 10 12:24:14 Hello good maemo-people :) Oct 10 12:25:29 I have a n900 and my nokia repos are not working so i cannot update thr damn thing :( Oct 10 12:25:46 ~maemo-repos Oct 10 12:25:47 Some advice ? Oct 10 12:25:47 it has been said that maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Oct 10 12:28:11 fladnag900: install cssu Oct 10 12:28:27 Sorri but these are working ? FOR REAL :) ..ihad somuchtruble Oct 10 12:28:49 fladnag900: only Nokia repos are not working Oct 10 12:28:50 try and les us know, we will update info on the wiki Oct 10 12:28:57 s/les/let/ Oct 10 12:28:57 KotCzarny meant: try and let us know, we will update info on the wiki Oct 10 12:29:30 Cssu ?? Simply ?? Without working nokia/ovi bla repos ?? ...Just devel &so r working ... Oct 10 12:29:43 fladnag900: also, there are mirrors of those Nokia repos, just do some ggoling Oct 10 12:29:52 yes, simply cssu Oct 10 12:29:58 DONT ENABLE -DEVEL PERMANENTLY Oct 10 12:30:03 :nod: Oct 10 12:30:05 only use it when you need it Oct 10 12:30:53 fladnag900: maemo repos work as it should, don't enable extras-testing and/or extras-devel unless you know what you do Oct 10 12:32:28 Okok :) thankyou all verymuch!!! But!!!!! : There r so f****** nice aps in devel&so ...icouldnot let my hands of it :D Oct 10 12:32:45 see the 'only install apps when needed' then disable it Oct 10 12:32:52 disabling repo wont uninstall apps Oct 10 12:34:01 Why disable ?????? Are there fuckinviruses comming by themselves when its enabled orwhat :P Oct 10 12:34:28 you know how dependencies work? Oct 10 12:34:49 Oo Oct 10 12:35:14 also, someone could put broken package there as anyone can upload things there Oct 10 12:35:40 chances are low, but there are known broken packages in -devel Oct 10 12:36:02 ... Like the vlc Oct 10 12:36:10 :) ? Oct 10 12:36:21 havent tried vlc on n900 yet Oct 10 12:36:22 :) Oct 10 12:36:35 but keep that in mind when enabling -devel and -testing Oct 10 12:39:13 Okk -BUT : what is it that cssu can do that i donot need the nokia or update-repos for (for now) ?? Oct 10 12:39:27 ~cssu Oct 10 12:39:28 rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Oct 10 12:39:51 but i think you need tidied repo list before installing Oct 10 12:41:01 i dont remember if cssu enabler sets it to fixed list or just adds cssu repos Oct 10 12:41:21 U r f******* right man :) :P a AM a poor individual man ...AND i am not able to play my atari snd-files in maemo Oct 10 12:41:32 erm Oct 10 12:41:47 have you seen my info that oscp can play sndh ? Oct 10 12:41:52 I cannot find any player that is able to snd !!! :( Oct 10 12:41:54 (among plethora of others) Oct 10 12:41:58 óscp Oct 10 12:42:01 drat Oct 10 12:42:03 ~oscp Oct 10 12:42:03 it has been said that oscp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 Oct 10 12:42:12 For real ?? Oct 10 12:42:20 Is ther no error ?? Oct 10 12:42:28 Patchset something Oct 10 12:42:30 ? Oct 10 12:42:38 patchset is only for midi Oct 10 12:42:57 Ihaveit and it wont Oct 10 12:43:03 have what? Oct 10 12:43:15 Oscp remote ? Oct 10 12:43:31 Is there a NOT-remote also ? Oct 10 12:43:47 oscp remote is just that, you need to press 'gears' icons to spawn local core, or just start oscp from terminal for ncurses one Oct 10 12:44:36 Bro : You know for shure this player is able to atari ?? Oct 10 12:44:47 upload the file somewhere and ill check Oct 10 12:44:54 http://transfer.sh for example Oct 10 12:45:22 Oshit Oct 10 12:45:25 :) Oct 10 12:45:44 hmm? Oct 10 12:45:56 Hmmm the stuff from stu maybe ...or Oct 10 12:46:23 Iamconfused and overwhelmed :D Oct 10 12:46:39 Youknow the n900 ... Oct 10 12:46:53 weird shit Oct 10 12:46:53 communicate in facts and requests, please Oct 10 12:46:58 my wifi was broken on n800 Oct 10 12:47:08 turned out the wifi stopped setting the dns server O_o Oct 10 12:47:43 I wanted to test or change to android becouse iwas pissed by maemo :P Oct 10 12:48:20 fladnag900: in short, if linux can do something, maemo can do it too (if cpu suffices) Oct 10 12:49:24 There is a atariplayer ...there is also dsp SOMEHOW working (ON N900) so there was a guy that played 720p on n900 fine ...with some player on SOME nitdroid ... Oct 10 12:49:37 ~720p Oct 10 12:49:38 i heard 720p is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77695 Oct 10 12:49:53 it can be done natively Oct 10 12:50:15 Yeah so iheard ...with some painintheass Oct 10 12:50:34 Iam confused with all the cernels Oct 10 12:50:40 Andstuff :( Oct 10 12:57:16 Sorry ...again : cssu ?!!! -and: idont need nokia repos bevore orwhat ? ..Isthere away to add the repos from THE RIGHT PAGE thatwas advertised herinthechat .. By simply klicking onit so it would add to my repo list in the manager ... I fear somehow writing something wrong again and confusing me myself again andagain :( ...??? Oct 10 12:57:56 then double check when entering, problem solved? Oct 10 13:00:57 But realyrealy thanks already for what you told me here ...this chat and the mameo comunity is great !!! :) Ihave my THIRD n900 now ...a real newone for 45euros :D ...nothing like years ago for about 400euros ...and ihad one that i left inadisco ondrugs that igot for 80eu ithink :D Oct 10 13:02:10 i got one for ~20usd Oct 10 13:02:58 My firstone is also working but mostly seperated :P ..the cable that connects the main and display was changed 2times and its broken AGAIN Oct 10 13:03:38 Itis now 5 or 6years old :) Oct 10 13:03:39 ~cssu Oct 10 13:03:49 Yeah Oct 10 13:03:50 * buZz pokes infobot Oct 10 13:04:06 poked too hard Oct 10 13:04:09 now pay up Oct 10 13:04:35 :) what means POKE Or POKED :D ?? Oct 10 13:04:46 just kidding Oct 10 13:04:47 Iam from germany :) Oct 10 13:04:54 nothing important Oct 10 13:05:00 :D Oct 10 13:05:04 Lool Oct 10 13:05:20 So Oct 10 13:05:40 I go into manager and search for cssu now :) Oct 10 13:06:02 i think you have to click it in browser Oct 10 13:06:03 fladnag900: poking is extending a finger, stick it in her side Oct 10 13:06:13 fladnag900: no, read: Oct 10 13:06:16 ~cssu Oct 10 13:06:24 oh, she's dead Oct 10 13:06:36 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Oct 10 13:08:58 Idontknow why but my connection was lost :P Oct 10 13:09:14 NEVERTHELESS :D Oct 10 13:09:21 !!!! Oct 10 13:09:57 Is there someone into CHIPTUNES or LSDJ here folks :) ????? Oct 10 13:10:05 Pleeeeease Oct 10 13:10:12 Letitbe Oct 10 13:10:29 sure, why not, just dont overdose Oct 10 13:10:40 i installed milkytracker yesterday Oct 10 13:10:48 quite nice :) with the lowres interface Oct 10 13:11:23 Iam happy with the rockbox-APP :P on n900 ....BUT!!! Oct 10 13:11:36 JOOOOOO milkyyyyyyyyyy Oct 10 13:11:51 Milkytracker istheBEST Oct 10 13:11:55 :) Oct 10 13:12:03 Its awesome Oct 10 13:12:17 ... Dude Oct 10 13:12:33 Whats the best chip player soft on maemo ?? Oct 10 13:12:37 oscp Oct 10 13:12:40 In your opinion@ Oct 10 13:13:01 :) you again :D Oct 10 13:13:12 Your into chip orwhat Oct 10 13:13:25 maybe you could hookup a OPL3 externally Oct 10 13:13:30 i have few tens of GB of modules Oct 10 13:13:38 Kotczarny ?? Oct 10 13:13:39 i have modarchive Oct 10 13:13:39 :P Oct 10 13:13:46 buzz: modarchive and more :P Oct 10 13:13:48 and internet Oct 10 13:14:17 :) Oct 10 13:14:45 Ihave allthat and the hvsc and it seems like NOTHING Oct 10 13:15:00 oscp opens zip files as regular directories Oct 10 13:15:10 also has hvsc song db built in Oct 10 13:16:46 ..there stands my amiga500 and there lies my a600platina over inthe shelf ...and there are these somewhat 16 dmg's and colors and pockets (freakin gameboy's) in my working/livingroom ... Oct 10 13:17:42 Lsdj INTHEHOUSE Oct 10 13:17:52 :D Oct 10 13:18:06 Oioioi gameboy isno toy Oct 10 13:18:16 Happyplay atari today Oct 10 13:18:22 :D Oct 10 13:18:47 And : Oct 10 13:19:03 The GAMEBOY 3MU ON MAEMO ...is shit Oct 10 13:19:09 :( Oct 10 13:19:16 Makesme verysad Oct 10 13:19:21 :D Oct 10 13:19:51 But iam using realones ...so :) Oct 10 13:22:53 Idontknow how to send you an .snd file kotzarny ..so u can test the oscp ability toplay atari forme ! ...There is this hvsc-like archive linked on the stella atari st emulator page ... Oct 10 13:23:41 flasgnag9001: open browser, point to http://transfer.sh upload file there, paste the link here Oct 10 13:23:42 Tonns of so graet music there !!!! Checkitout if you r into chip bro Oct 10 13:25:46 :) okok idoit ...just AMOMENT :P Oct 10 13:27:26 BUT what if it dont play ??? WHAT SHOULD WE DO THENNNN :O ...it is IMPORTEND tolisten to atarimusik :D Oct 10 13:28:03 i've played many atari tunes with oscp Oct 10 13:28:43 though didnt test them on n900 (could be some arch related bugs) Oct 10 13:31:44 So if i send you one, you try it ON N900 jes ?? Oct 10 13:31:51 yes Oct 10 13:31:54 :) Oct 10 13:34:35 My connection is so poor ...gprs from the chaepest provider possible ...HELP :) :P Oct 10 13:35:16 ...could just be days ...for this one 2kb-snd-file :P Oct 10 13:35:38 not going anywhere, so no problem Oct 10 14:47:28 kotczarny ? Oct 10 14:47:33 mm? Oct 10 14:48:16 :) im using mirc now and there is this "send file" option ... Oct 10 14:48:30 can i use this ? Oct 10 14:48:48 you can try, though i haven't used dcc for a long time Oct 10 14:49:03 iknow jackshit about linux and shel code bla Oct 10 14:49:12 hmmm Oct 10 14:51:40 nope, firewall is blocking it somewhere Oct 10 14:51:55 ofuck Oct 10 14:52:25 what do ihave todo for YOUR method Oct 10 14:53:01 i may have google for that file Oct 10 14:53:37 http://sndh.atari.org/sndh/browser/index.php?dir=sndh_sf%2Fdubmood%2F Oct 10 14:53:46 is it the same file? Oct 10 14:55:25 its from dubmood and zabutom ..realname is DRUMNBICE ..filename is drumbice.snd Oct 10 14:55:51 but its sndh.atari ...ithink you r right ;) Oct 10 14:56:13 or take something frrom stu ...he is THE master !! Oct 10 14:56:22 (also) Oct 10 14:57:02 but it looks like the transfere is ongoing ,,,but transfer timed out ... Oct 10 14:57:39 and :) Oct 10 14:58:16 are u theone who toldme i should simply use cssu ? kotczarny ? :) Oct 10 14:59:32 ...because i dont find it on my n900 ...it seems idont have the complete cssu repos or what one need for that ..or not all ofthem repos Oct 10 14:59:34 and Oct 10 15:00:59 for cssu you need to google it, click the install file, then click on the enabler, but first of all you have to read the instructions first Oct 10 15:02:00 if U dont have the sndh-archiv ...i still download alll the good stuff und dont rely on the net for soshure ..so get the wholething isay ...its worth the 80mb ;P Oct 10 15:02:24 downloaded the file but it doesnt get accepted on n900, trying on pc Oct 10 15:03:59 ahaaaaa ahahaha Oct 10 15:04:02 ;( Oct 10 15:04:14 imgetting angry Oct 10 15:04:17 youknow Oct 10 15:04:24 it cant be true Oct 10 15:04:43 lol Oct 10 15:05:01 that there are no real chip-lovers on maemo/n900 comunity that think its worth ...bla Oct 10 15:05:09 bla? Oct 10 15:05:15 you are asking for money? O_o Oct 10 15:05:49 i wonder if module being packed with ice packer has to do anything with being unplayable Oct 10 15:06:11 depends if the player knows wtf icepacker is :P Oct 10 15:06:18 as always -becouse i cant code myself -ishould be quit about it -becouse se software sofar on maemo is verygood and iam able to run atleast themost ofmy chip archive on my n900 ....still ... :( ;) :P Oct 10 15:06:35 fladnag900: just render them to .mp3 Oct 10 15:07:09 though apparently sc68 (sndh player engine) says it should be supported Oct 10 15:08:08 RENDER THEM snd kilobytesize-unncompresssedquality-chipformat TO F****** MP3 ????????????????????????? Oct 10 15:08:20 m-p-fucking-three ??? Oct 10 15:08:31 u r not serios Oct 10 15:08:41 fladnag900: i've added this issue to todo, will look into it later when i get to my coding machine Oct 10 15:08:58 :) Oct 10 15:09:00 because apparently it should play Oct 10 15:09:10 o-k Oct 10 15:09:12 :P Oct 10 15:09:22 :) Oct 10 15:09:48 ... r u the coder of oscp ?? Oct 10 15:10:02 yes Oct 10 15:10:08 :D Oct 10 15:10:12 heavy Oct 10 15:10:31 thanks for all your help sofar Oct 10 15:10:47 the willingnes alone ;) Oct 10 15:11:12 ... ihad SOME dicussions ago in then PALM-community Oct 10 15:11:24 ... with sqeezix and such Oct 10 15:11:47 and the guys from this multi-emu called ljp Oct 10 15:12:13 palm-os ... jeajea alongtimeago in agalxy ;D Oct 10 15:13:44 the palmos-emu or runtime environment on maemo ..isit still under dev or ... Oct 10 15:14:21 ihad a zodiac for alongtime ;) Oct 10 15:15:13 imsorry aBIT :D unrelated ...thereis enough goinon in REALTIME ..:) Oct 10 15:15:44 ohman Oct 10 15:15:56 this world and the humans Oct 10 15:22:09 hmm Oct 10 15:22:16 sc68 cant open those files Oct 10 15:22:25 http://sc68.atari.org/ Oct 10 15:22:46 maybe it's some new format (last release of sc68 is from 2003) Oct 10 15:23:06 idontthinkso Oct 10 15:23:37 isnt snd the standart format for atari-st ?? Oct 10 15:23:58 or not Oct 10 15:23:59 ...like mod for the tracker on amigas Oct 10 15:24:12 it decodes using raw output Oct 10 15:25:05 anyway, gotta debug it later Oct 10 15:25:09 hey i remember maybe this is helpfull .. Oct 10 15:26:01 afriend got the exact file (drumbice) running on his android-phone with a player called DROIDSOUND or something Oct 10 15:26:03 ! Oct 10 15:26:23 as i said, it's just some bug i need to dig out Oct 10 15:27:00 another player he got there sayd also something about playing snd/AU in the about ...and could NOT ;) Oct 10 15:27:36 http://sndh.atari.org/sndh/browser/index.php Oct 10 15:27:44 oscp can play sndh_lf without problem Oct 10 15:27:50 ithink snd/au is oldschool-mac audio or something NOT very chip-related Oct 10 15:27:57 but fails on files from sndh_sf Oct 10 15:28:22 lf/sf ??? where is difference ? Oct 10 15:28:41 dont ask me, apparently some container format differences Oct 10 15:28:47 okk Oct 10 15:28:51 :( Oct 10 15:29:13 as i said (again), it will play, just gonna debug it at some later time Oct 10 15:29:29 but just the container ?? ...so is conversation possible or you Oct 10 15:29:32 okkkk Oct 10 15:29:37 :) sory Oct 10 15:29:45 if you want me to remember you can remind me on irc or on oscp's talk.maemo.org page Oct 10 15:30:34 :) iwill .. it IS importand tome Oct 10 15:30:48 soon Oct 10 15:30:54 ;P Oct 10 15:50:35 lol i wrote conversation xD imeant conversion or convertion :D xP ..nevermind you already gotit ...i WILL remember you cotCzarny ! ..maybe a few hours or the next days jo :) ..stay CHIPtuned Oct 10 15:50:41 (folks;) Oct 10 15:53:45 and u r from sweden kotczarny ? :) but you dontknow random or some other godlike chipguys from your country ? Oct 10 15:54:37 randomizer thatis ....or goto80 ... :) ?? Oct 10 15:54:53 nope, pl, also, im not the scene guy, i just like modules Oct 10 15:55:33 :D ...thatsok ...SAD :D but very o-k ;D Oct 10 18:11:24 ohmy, cssu is really prominently advertised on *every* maemo.org webpage Oct 10 18:11:31 also Oct 10 18:11:34 ~cssu Oct 10 18:11:40 grr Oct 10 18:13:34 anyway /topic Oct 10 18:13:47 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council Oct 10 18:13:52 ~cssu Oct 10 18:13:52 cssu is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Oct 10 18:16:09 http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=Au/snd Oct 10 18:17:09 he misused the extension (dos people shortened it), proper one is sndh Oct 10 18:19:48 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_filename_extensions_(alphabetical) Oct 10 18:20:20 http://sndh.atari.org/about.php Oct 10 18:21:03 its from the times when 8.3 bbses were the top of the world Oct 10 18:21:54 not to mention atari also used this format Oct 10 18:24:35 LOL Oct 10 18:24:51 music as an app Oct 10 18:25:12 yeah, replayer was usually small enough Oct 10 18:26:03 enable all -devel repos all the time Oct 10 18:26:05 #yolo Oct 10 18:26:05 prolly the easiest and only correct way to playback such crap is with an atari emulator Oct 10 18:26:19 yes, and that's what sc68 does Oct 10 18:26:36 it emulates 68k cpu and few atari registers Oct 10 18:26:42 OUCH Oct 10 18:26:47 also, sid tunes do the same Oct 10 18:26:57 DocScrutinizer05: is that really more expensive than h264 decoding? Oct 10 18:27:02 i strongly doubt it Oct 10 18:27:23 hehehe Oct 10 18:27:54 h264 however is standardized and not cheesy *chip* music Oct 10 18:28:25 yeah, h264 standard has fuckton of standards Oct 10 18:28:36 sorry, profiles Oct 10 18:31:50 whatever, trying to playback that SNDH stuff with a mediaplayer is like feeding punch paper tape to a VCR Oct 10 18:51:10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_music Oct 10 19:37:09 now slowly h265 come... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 11 02:59:58 2015