**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 19 02:59:59 2015 Oct 19 05:34:56 hmm. a friend of mine who has some lumia phone can only randomly sms me, ie. I don't get some of the messages. When tried to send to another phone (old nokia E63), I get the messages but see a block character in the preview, saved the content to a file and notice that the messages have unicode smileys apparently, there's a byte sequence D83D DE02 which is supposedly a smiling face (http://apps.timwhitlock.info/unicode/inspect?s=%F0%9F%98%8A). Now I ... Oct 19 05:35:02 ... wonder if I don't get any of the SMSs with modern smileys? Oct 19 05:35:48 ...and whether this is something that was fixed ages ago but I'd need to update (still running ancient maemo on phone) Oct 19 05:36:43 ah, google hits on this.. Oct 19 05:54:54 fixed! Oct 19 05:55:31 damn emojis :) Oct 19 06:00:24 now I wonder if I've missed something awesome or pissed people off for not answering! Oct 19 07:12:08 joga: you're new to irc, are you? Oct 19 07:13:06 s/are/aren't/ Oct 19 07:13:06 KotCzarny meant: joga: you're new to irc, aren't you? Oct 19 07:14:19 ...no Oct 19 07:14:21 :p Oct 19 07:14:41 then you should know that sometimes it can take days before someone answers Oct 19 07:14:41 :P Oct 19 07:15:15 no I meant the SMSs I might've not received :) Oct 19 07:15:29 oh Oct 19 07:15:44 buy some prepaid card for testing? Oct 19 07:15:57 it's fixed now Oct 19 07:16:24 had to patch smslib and put a couple of fonts there Oct 19 07:24:39 what file did you need to patch and what was the patch? Oct 19 07:25:33 ~seen pali Oct 19 07:25:34 pali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 10h 45m 45s ago, saying: 'it is compatible with n900?'. Oct 19 07:37:17 jonwil, https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93427&page=2 Oct 19 07:38:20 ah, this is for N9 not N900 Oct 19 07:38:32 I have N900 so this doesn't help me Oct 19 07:38:44 or interest me Oct 19 07:40:04 jonwil, well I have an n900... Oct 19 07:40:28 but the fix in question is for Harmattan on N9 not Maemo on N900 Oct 19 07:40:33 ie. did these and now it works https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1463317&postcount=15 Oct 19 07:40:56 oh ok Oct 19 07:43:28 ok Oct 19 07:43:30 I see now Oct 19 07:43:42 but yeah I dont get sent those emoji sms so I dont need that fix Oct 19 07:44:41 what happened to the good old ':)' Oct 19 07:47:36 I dont receive some messages from time to time, it could be related Oct 19 07:47:55 (people tell me they've sent it ... but nope) Oct 19 07:50:35 I rarely get SMSs anyway and send them even less Oct 19 07:50:54 I prefer to talk to people (bizarre I know) Oct 19 07:52:59 its useful for messages when you or other party is unavailable at the moment Oct 19 07:54:35 i sometimes receive sms containing smileys as picture messages vie fmms Oct 19 07:54:44 via* Oct 19 08:01:18 Now that you asked... ;-) I'm cheap and as such prefer not to receive short messages for which people expect to get a reply, hence I can't relly send messages myself either. On the other hand I really really hate making calls to people I don't know. In these cases messaging would be so much easier, but I always get the feeling that I would not be getting my message through unambiguously. It's a lose-lose situation. Much of the time I end up calling and if they don't an Oct 19 08:01:19 swer, then I send them a message. Talking to an answering machine is extremely awkward. Oct 19 08:02:18 i pay ~3usd/year on a prepaid card Oct 19 08:02:32 and use sms/gsm sparingly, mostly its other people msging/calling me Oct 19 11:31:26 moin :) Oct 19 12:43:16 our iPhone friends have been backdoored for a while without realizing it. maybe not for malicious reasons, but backdoor nonetheless. walled garden clearly ineffective Oct 19 12:43:20 https://sourcedna.com/blog/20151018/ios-apps-using-private-apis.html Oct 19 12:43:32 :) Oct 19 12:43:46 isnt whole ios one great backdoor on the users? Oct 19 12:44:15 they believe because the key is held by one "trusted" person, at least it's better Oct 19 12:51:43 whats the point of locking out the os from the user anyway Oct 19 12:51:46 (apart from making money from it in different ways) Oct 19 12:52:08 protect the user from his stupidity haha Oct 19 12:53:02 just dont give him/her the machine then Oct 19 12:53:03 :) Oct 19 12:53:06 100% effective Oct 19 12:54:18 but you want him to use it, so you can then sell him other products/services Oct 19 12:57:32 Sicelo|work: so, like Microsoft? Oct 19 12:57:44 secret sauce api Oct 19 12:58:26 yes, haha. Oct 19 14:42:18 Is there any way to force an app to stay loaded? Oct 19 14:42:37 Specifically the phone one, not all the time but some of the time it takes so long for the phone to actually load that I miss a call Oct 19 14:42:51 I'm just sitting there holding a phone with a black screen Oct 19 14:44:59 it's always loaded already :) Oct 19 14:45:03 afaik Oct 19 14:45:47 but, on N900 we have RAM/swapping issues. try swap on uSD, flopswap, etc. and thumb too Oct 19 14:46:58 maybe disable rotating UI for phone application can help a little .. the black screen is more likely while turning Oct 19 14:47:18 I've never had rotation on phone, so that's not it Oct 19 14:47:43 RAM/swap then Oct 19 14:47:50 * Tekk_ nods Oct 19 14:48:11 How's stability on thumb? I've been interested in it Oct 19 14:49:31 works fine (for me) Oct 19 14:49:59 i don't remember anyone complaining. Oct 19 14:51:31 I'll probably look into flashing that this afternoon then Oct 19 14:51:34 once I'm done with class Oct 19 14:57:51 we could try and package memlockd Oct 19 14:58:26 but I'm afraid there are way too much files to "lock" in memory to really be useful Oct 19 14:58:56 (that wouldnt leave much space for other uses) Oct 19 15:04:11 http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=d44bb0715 Oct 19 15:04:53 yeah, cssu-thumb is good Oct 19 15:05:07 roughly 18MB of libraries for rtcom-call-ui ... I was expecting more Oct 19 15:05:22 not that bad Oct 19 15:05:31 also, try some of those things http://wiki.maemo.org/Slimming_OS Oct 19 15:05:51 especially if you dont use mailing/calendar you can free some memory Oct 19 15:06:05 (by changing preloading entry in dektop files) Oct 19 15:06:43 (but they're probably all swapped if you really dont use it anyway) Oct 19 15:07:15 bencoh, still, better not have them if you dont use them Oct 19 15:07:29 (and you can always start them manually) Oct 19 15:08:33 yeah (I'm doing it as well) Oct 19 15:56:43 it doesnt look like memlockd really helps **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 20 02:59:58 2015