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Dec 03 10:03:31 <jonwil> hi
Dec 03 10:04:14 <klopsi-u3>  hello jonwil 
Dec 03 12:32:24 <zGrr> moin :)
Dec 03 12:32:34 <klopsi-u3>  hi zGrr 
Dec 03 13:42:52 <freemangordon> Wizzup: if the traces are gone, it still can be fixed by using wires
Dec 03 15:11:51 <Wizzup> freemangordon: ah... I guess there is still hope for one n900 I have then
Dec 03 15:20:09 <KotCzarny> hmm, how to make scratchbox stop stealing paths?
Dec 03 15:23:08 <KotCzarny> or in other words, how to compile native (armel) gcc in sb
Dec 03 17:27:16 <KotCzarny> hmm, hacked sb1 to use newest qemu-2.5.0-rc2, trying to build gcc
Dec 03 17:53:57 <Wizzup> > New versions of OpenSSL 0.9.8 and 1.0.0 series are released, but these are anticipated to be the last security fixes to be released in those series. Users are encouraged to upgrade. 
Dec 03 19:06:26 <KotCzarny> banana pi m3: 8x1.8GHz, 2GB lpddr3, sata port, gigabit eth, wifi/bt, ir, hdmi, emmc (2gb)
Dec 03 19:06:33 <KotCzarny> ~150usd
Dec 03 19:07:15 <Wizzup> and mainline support? non existant :) 
Dec 03 19:07:20 <KotCzarny> probably
Dec 03 19:07:33 <KotCzarny> still, would make nice compile slave
Dec 03 19:07:43 <Wizzup> are you sure it is 8x1.8Ghz?
Dec 03 19:07:52 <KotCzarny> https://kamami.pl/54863-thickbox_default/banana-pi-m3-octa-core-allwinner-a83t-arm-cortex-a7.jpg
Dec 03 19:07:53 <Wizzup> As in, is it b.L?
Dec 03 19:10:00 <KotCzarny> http://www.bananapi.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/85-bpi-m3
Dec 03 19:10:07 <KotCzarny> Banana PI BPI-M3 is the open source hardware platform, Banana PI BPI-M3 is an octa-core version of Banana Pi, it support WIFI+BT on board.
Dec 03 19:11:25 <KotCzarny> Banana PI PBI-M3 hardware: 1.8GHz ARM Cortex-A7 octa-core processor, 2GB LPDDR3 SDRAM, 
Dec 03 19:11:29 <KotCzarny> (same page)
Dec 03 19:12:50 <KotCzarny> they have debian img with kernel 3.4 dated 25/09/2015
Dec 03 19:23:34 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: so 3.4 like all other boards with crap support :) 
Dec 03 19:23:45 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: also, if it is b.L then the Little cores will not be 1.8Ghz
Dec 03 19:23:49 <Wizzup> but I'll look up the A7 in a bit
Dec 03 19:23:59 <kerio> i was reading about the bananapi
Dec 03 19:24:02 <kerio> i kinda want one
Dec 03 19:24:11 <Wizzup> the sunxi community doesn't recommend the bpi's
Dec 03 19:24:19 <Wizzup> they refer to them as "shitpi" mostly
Dec 03 19:24:24 <Wizzup> as far as I have seen at least.
Dec 03 19:24:27 <KotCzarny> i like the fact those board start getting sata ports
Dec 03 19:24:44 <Wizzup> A10 and A20 had SATA already
Dec 03 19:24:52 <kerio> ;-;
Dec 03 19:24:56 <kerio> what should i buy
Dec 03 19:24:57 <KotCzarny> not every board included it
Dec 03 19:25:02 <Wizzup> https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A20/A20-OLinuXIno-LIME2/open-source-hardware
Dec 03 19:25:03 <kerio> i need a router
Dec 03 19:25:07 <KotCzarny> kerio, wait few months
Dec 03 19:25:07 <kerio> and by need i router i mean i want a router
Dec 03 19:25:15 <kerio> also fuck linux
Dec 03 19:25:16 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: no, A10 and A20 are the main allwinner SATA ones
Dec 03 19:25:20 <kerio> gimme something that runs pfsense
Dec 03 19:25:20 <Wizzup> never allwinner has no SATA on the SoC
Dec 03 19:25:53 <Wizzup> s/never/newer/
Dec 03 19:25:54 <infobot> Wizzup meant: newer allwinner has no SATA on the SoC
Dec 03 19:26:08 <KotCzarny> kerio: buy low power x86, install pfsense, done
Dec 03 19:27:51 <KotCzarny> wizzup, im periodically browsing those boards in hopes they reach the threshold i need (~100usd, sata x2 (bootable))
Dec 03 19:29:08 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: what do you mean with 'bootable' sata?
Dec 03 19:29:16 <Wizzup> and you can use a SATA PMP with the olimex
Dec 03 19:29:34 <KotCzarny> wizzup, so i dont have to boot from sd
Dec 03 19:29:42 <Wizzup> on arm? good luck :) 
Dec 03 19:29:45 <KotCzarny> :)
Dec 03 19:29:58 <KotCzarny> as i said, still waiting
Dec 03 19:29:58 <Wizzup> I load uboot from my sd, which loads kernel from the sd, and then the kernel starts with root=/dev/sda (SATA)
Dec 03 19:30:07 <Wizzup> I just got a 5$ microsd card.
Dec 03 19:30:22 <Wizzup> since I much prefer u-boot and DTB so BIOS and other equally annoying crap
Dec 03 19:30:28 <Wizzup> s/so/to/
Dec 03 19:30:30 <infobot> Wizzup meant: since I much prefer u-boot and DTB to BIOS and other equally annoying crap
Dec 03 19:33:58 <KotCzarny> kerio: check if NetFPGA-SUME supports pfsense
Dec 03 19:51:10 <kerio> i think the dreamplug can boot from sata, so i don't think booting from sata is that farfetched
Dec 03 19:51:33 <kerio> KotCzarny: netfpga-sume costs 9750$
Dec 03 19:51:41 <kerio> that's slightly more than i'm willing to spend
Dec 03 19:51:58 <KotCzarny> but it can run pfsense apparently
Dec 03 19:52:14 <kerio> woop
Dec 03 19:55:02 <KotCzarny> how i love packages failing to compile because missing 'makeinfo'
Dec 03 19:55:16 <KotCzarny> oh, hey, its fatal, no docs!
Dec 03 19:56:18 <KotCzarny> on another note, sb1 i terminally broken if one needs newer software
Dec 03 19:56:25 <KotCzarny> s/ i / is /
Dec 03 19:56:25 <infobot> KotCzarny meant: on another note, sb1 is terminally broken if one needs newer software
Dec 03 20:55:57 <KotCzarny> oh, wow, virtualbux crashed
Dec 03 21:09:50 <ds3> would it be a virtual crash?
Dec 03 21:10:03 <KotCzarny> yes, host survived
Dec 03 21:27:02 <APic> B-)
Dec 03 21:58:04 <KotCzarny> native compilation is painful
Dec 03 21:59:50 <APic> True.
Dec 03 22:00:27 <KotCzarny> but surprisingly enough, swapped qemu works with a little bit of hacking
Dec 03 22:02:33 * APic likes the UML better than the QEmu. But that is obviously a Matter of Taste.
Dec 03 22:02:44 <KotCzarny> uml?
Dec 03 22:08:14 <KotCzarny> wow, multimeg error msg
Dec 03 22:10:39 <APic> UserModeLinux
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