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Dec 11 04:14:55 <Sicelo> Oksanaa: what programs are 'willing' to get the information mediainfo collects?/sb end
Dec 11 04:15:13 <Sicelo> sorry... backscroll error
Dec 11 04:16:04 <Oksana> Heh... No problem
Dec 11 04:41:31 <Oksana> Anybody with experience in OSM2Go ?
Dec 11 07:02:03 <karna> hello
Dec 11 07:17:12 <Vajb> good morning
Dec 11 08:42:13 <zGrr> moin :)
Dec 11 09:38:17 <KotCzarny> WOW.
Dec 11 09:38:56 <KotCzarny> oscp on banana pi r1, taking 5% cpu to decode. @528MHz. just wow.
Dec 11 09:39:16 <KotCzarny> and its also armv7l. so. wow.
Dec 11 09:41:44 <KotCzarny> also, taking 1/2-1/3 of the memory
Dec 11 09:42:09 <KotCzarny> can we has cssu-hardfloat and gcc-4.9 ?
Dec 11 09:43:58 <KotCzarny> also, device with 5 port 1gbit switch and wifi playing mp3 taking ~0.5-0.6A @5V
Dec 11 09:50:15 <KotCzarny> (and 2x 1GHz cpu, 1GB of ddr3, 1x usb2.0, 1x sata2, 1x ir receiver, 1x hdmi)
Dec 11 09:50:26 <KotCzarny> and its ~60-70usd
Dec 11 10:42:00 <jonwil> hi
Dec 11 10:44:08 <Jack64> KotCzarny: I envy the sata port, otherwise I'd go with the raspi 2 :)
Dec 11 10:44:28 <KotCzarny> yeah, that was one of the choosing points
Dec 11 10:44:37 <KotCzarny> i would love raspi with real sata
Dec 11 10:44:59 <KotCzarny> newer banpis have sucky usb--sata cheat
Dec 11 10:47:13 <Jack64> ^^^^
Dec 11 10:47:18 <Jack64> exactly
Dec 11 10:47:33 <Jack64> I guess we can't have everything for 40 bucks =)
Dec 11 10:47:37 <KotCzarny> ;)
Dec 11 10:48:14 <KotCzarny> well, if you find tiny-cheapy-goodenough gigabiteth--sata adapter then...
Dec 11 10:48:15 <Jack64> that cheat also goes for the raspi
Dec 11 10:48:33 <KotCzarny> banpi-r1 has 5 gigabit ports so should be enough
Dec 11 10:48:45 <Jack64> wtf gigE<->SATA?! that's a real thing?
Dec 11 10:48:53 <zGrr> there are plenty of i/o rich devboards around.
Dec 11 10:49:00 <KotCzarny> ever heard about network attached storage?
Dec 11 10:49:06 <Jack64> well yea
Dec 11 10:49:08 <KotCzarny> zgrr: in <100usd range?
Dec 11 10:49:28 <zGrr> KotCzarny: yes
Dec 11 10:49:36 <Jack64> but that doesn't use a GigE<->SATA cable lol
Dec 11 10:49:38 <KotCzarny> link/model?
Dec 11 10:50:09 <zGrr> i say plenty. and there is more comming.
Dec 11 10:50:29 <KotCzarny> zgrr, name 3
Dec 11 10:50:45 <Jack64> cubitruck
Dec 11 10:50:52 <KotCzarny> which model?
Dec 11 10:50:53 <Jack64> or whatev it's caled
Dec 11 10:51:03 <Jack64> truck!=board
Dec 11 10:51:09 <Jack64> 3.0 iirc
Dec 11 10:51:12 <bencoh> cubox might have one <100usd
Dec 11 10:51:21 <Jack64> but that's >100 iirc
Dec 11 10:51:39 <zGrr> KotCzarny: hardkernel.com - you'll finf 2 there.
Dec 11 10:51:41 <Jack64> unless there was a recent price drop I'm unaware of
Dec 11 10:52:06 <KotCzarny> prices will drop, thats for sure
Dec 11 10:52:26 <KotCzarny> a83 is a nice soc, pity its new and not ready for fun yet
Dec 11 10:53:05 <KotCzarny> yeah, odroid-xu4 is very nice (saw it before)
Dec 11 10:53:12 <zGrr> KotCzarny: there is new, interesting mips based board on kickstarter.
Dec 11 10:53:33 <Jack64> I wish the parallella board had taken off
Dec 11 10:53:48 <KotCzarny> i dont see sata on those boards tho
Dec 11 10:54:18 <zGrr> KotCzarny: you can find alix for around a 100 usd.
Dec 11 10:54:56 <zGrr> KotCzarny: are you talking of odroids?
Dec 11 10:55:18 <KotCzarny> zgrr, yes, those you linked on hardkernel
Dec 11 10:56:03 <KotCzarny> also, im amazed how snappy that r1 is
Dec 11 10:56:23 <KotCzarny> even with debian jessie installed (sysvinit, not systemd luckily)
Dec 11 10:57:11 <KotCzarny> i still have to find out how to disable display interrupts, as i havent it connected, but even now it draws ~0.55A @5V
Dec 11 10:57:54 <zGrr> KotCzarny: they have fast emmc socket, good ethernet link and in case of xu4 usb3.0 with optional sata adapter. i would qualify that as good i/o. 
Dec 11 10:58:57 <KotCzarny> zgrr, my 5port gbit switch takes similar amount of power as r1, so its like free bonus
Dec 11 10:59:14 <KotCzarny> im amazed
Dec 11 10:59:40 <KotCzarny> audio quality is good (afaict from todays tests)
Dec 11 11:02:09 <KotCzarny> also, i'm not sure about stability yet, time will tell
Dec 11 11:02:36 <KotCzarny> and funnily enough i can connect li-ion backup battery and have portable oscp machine :)
Dec 11 11:03:39 <zGrr> KotCzarny: you're right. it a good board. and there are even more a20 based boards 
Dec 11 11:04:00 <KotCzarny> but not one with such perfect combination of features
Dec 11 11:04:35 <zGrr> KotCzarny: another reason to avoid broadcom
Dec 11 11:05:15 <KotCzarny> i've been excited when first raspi went live, it was sad they didnt include sata 
Dec 11 11:06:37 <zGrr> it wouldn' make sense to include sata in rpi
Dec 11 11:06:47 <KotCzarny> storage
Dec 11 11:06:51 <KotCzarny> lots of it
Dec 11 11:07:00 <KotCzarny> and fast and reliable at the same time
Dec 11 11:07:26 <KotCzarny> would make a very nice home nas
Dec 11 11:07:56 <zGrr> it wouldn't
Dec 11 11:08:11 <KotCzarny> for me it would, and i bet for quite a lot of people
Dec 11 11:08:18 <zGrr> soc itself has a poor io
Dec 11 11:08:35 <KotCzarny> thats true
Dec 11 11:09:00 <zGrr> its the soc, that is limitation, not lack of interfaces.
Dec 11 11:09:37 <KotCzarny> still, a10/a20 did it, and quite successfully
Dec 11 11:09:52 <KotCzarny> not stellar speed, but good enough for me
Dec 11 11:10:31 <KotCzarny> and again, for 3W of power, it does hell of a job
Dec 11 11:14:16 <bencoh> 3W is "a lot" btw
Dec 11 11:14:29 <KotCzarny> bencoh, my current setup sucks ~55W
Dec 11 11:14:35 <bencoh> (in the "embedded" world)
Dec 11 11:14:52 <KotCzarny> 2x gbit switch, 1 router, 1 home nas
Dec 11 11:15:12 <KotCzarny> so 3W > 55W (in terms of goodness)
Dec 11 11:15:42 <KotCzarny> also, mind you, its not mobile phone/tablet, just 'router' board
Dec 11 11:16:01 <KotCzarny> and again, my gbit switch eats as much power
Dec 11 11:16:30 <KotCzarny> if it proves stable i will be very happy
Dec 11 11:18:57 <KotCzarny> maybe i'll even attach some li-ion to it
Dec 11 11:19:30 <KotCzarny> as a power safeguard
Dec 11 11:20:10 <KotCzarny> hmm, with some display and few buttons it could even be a portable player
Dec 11 11:20:36 <KotCzarny> controllable via oscp-remote :)
Dec 11 11:23:00 <zGrr> 55w is a LOT
Dec 11 11:23:17 <KotCzarny> zgrr, yeah, 2 x86 suck a lot of power
Dec 11 11:27:43 <zGrr> KotCzarny: except amd geode lx
Dec 11 11:28:11 <KotCzarny> i have 1 via c7 machine, it draws ~10W
Dec 11 11:28:20 <KotCzarny> the other is regular pc with atx power
Dec 11 11:28:39 <KotCzarny> but not for long, muahahah
Dec 11 11:36:33 * jonwil is bored :(
Dec 11 11:36:37 <jonwil> nothing to reverse engineer :(
Dec 11 11:36:58 <KotCzarny> jonwil, relax? enjoy the weekend?
Dec 11 11:37:11 <jonwil> that's boring :P
Dec 11 11:37:32 <KotCzarny> only if you can't enjoy with anything other than RE
Dec 11 11:38:15 <jonwil> I got nothing else I can do either that will make me less bored
Dec 11 11:38:20 <jonwil> at least right now anyway
Dec 11 11:38:30 <KotCzarny> read deadpool?
Dec 11 11:38:32 <jonwil> got an xmas party tomorrow so that will be good :)
Dec 11 11:38:55 <jonwil> still have to decide what food to take to said xmas party though
Dec 11 11:39:09 <KotCzarny> cheese, lots of cheese
Dec 11 11:41:30 <jonwil> At this point I am leaning towards dips and things to dip in them
Dec 11 11:41:39 <KotCzarny> cheese dips
Dec 11 11:41:52 <KotCzarny> did i mention i also love cheese?
Dec 11 11:41:57 <jonwil> dont think cheese is appropriate for this party :)
Dec 11 11:42:26 <jonwil> but yeah right now I am so bored :(
Dec 11 11:42:27 <KotCzarny> cheese is appropriate for every party!
Dec 11 11:42:42 <KotCzarny> and if you are bored, it means you are not using enough cheese
Dec 11 11:42:46 <jonwil> I do like cheese but no its not what I need :)
Dec 11 11:46:20 <zGrr> KotCzarny: can i have some of your cheese, please?
Dec 11 11:46:31 <KotCzarny> zgrr, too late, i just ate
Dec 11 11:46:39 <KotCzarny> i might go get some more if you want tho
Dec 11 11:49:01 <zGrr> cheese made from the mad cow milk.
Dec 11 11:49:15 <KotCzarny> never met the cow that made it
Dec 11 11:55:13 <zGrr> it could have been synthesized
Dec 11 11:57:47 <KotCzarny> by mad scientists
Dec 11 12:00:00 <zGrr> it is enough to say scientists. all scientists are mad. if they were sane, they wouldn't became scientist in the first place. 
Dec 11 12:00:38 <KotCzarny> what is mad? baby dont science me, what is maaaad~~
Dec 11 16:53:54 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: I guess there are no prebuilt scratchbox images?
Dec 11 16:55:10 <KotCzarny> wizzup, for r1?
Dec 11 17:11:44 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: sorry?
Dec 11 17:11:51 <KotCzarny> <Wizzup> KotCzarny: I guess there are no prebuilt scratchbox images?
Dec 11 17:12:09 <Wizzup> for maemo on the n900
Dec 11 17:12:18 <Wizzup> something that I can run in qemu or vbox
Dec 11 17:12:24 <KotCzarny> there were
Dec 11 17:12:28 <Wizzup> hm.. /me googles
Dec 11 17:13:48 <KotCzarny> http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_SDK_Virtual_Images
Dec 11 17:13:52 <KotCzarny> didnt check the links
Dec 11 17:15:17 <KotCzarny> both seem to point to nokia, hmm
Dec 11 17:16:10 <KotCzarny> http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Server_Virtual_Image_Final.txt
Dec 11 17:16:52 <KotCzarny> good guy bencoh has a mirror
Dec 11 17:16:54 <KotCzarny> :)
Dec 11 17:24:36 <DocScrutinizer51> ~sb
Dec 11 17:24:41 <infobot> methinks scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB
Dec 11 20:56:06 <jonwil> hi
Dec 12 00:33:18 <Airwave> I installed Debian on the MicroSD card on my N900 using the instructions at http://elektranox.org/n900/installation.html. What's the best way to now boot from my MicroSD card?
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