**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 03 02:59:58 2016 Feb 03 04:11:10 Even Quattro Pro for Windows (QPW) version 10 from year 2001 has this feature that I have not yet found in any other spreadsheet software. I should file an enhancement/feature request for LibreOffice Calc if one has not already been filed. Feb 03 06:48:09 * jonwil is getting close to being able to update the Maemo root CA store in CSSU git repos Feb 03 08:42:57 jonwil: \m/ Feb 03 08:44:04 bencoh: Maxdamantus : seems i made mistake. apologies. Feb 03 08:44:36 np :) Feb 03 08:48:29 So did I .. I referred to doc instead of you. Feb 03 09:27:31 through yappari I'm getting messages missed Feb 03 09:27:39 has there been a change to that? Feb 03 09:29:35 I'm missing out on messages Feb 03 09:33:08 what's the current status of yappari? Feb 03 09:35:44 it's maintained Feb 03 09:49:09 I mean the other week, I updated it Feb 03 09:49:19 because the protocols changed Feb 03 09:49:24 but i've been missing messages Feb 03 09:49:29 they're not coming through for some reason. Feb 03 09:49:45 has there been another version recently? Feb 03 09:51:33 no idea, see the TMO yappari thread, and/or ask ceene Feb 03 10:02:21 fishbulb_: we have problems with encrypted messages .. textsecure is ultimate solution Feb 03 10:03:23 pretty sure these are not encrypted Feb 03 10:07:41 ceene: have you put out another yappari version recently? Feb 03 10:08:58 nope I have 2.0.23 Feb 03 10:09:19 fishbulb_: how do you know (not encrypted) ? Feb 03 10:09:48 I'm guessing because it's just a normal girl who would use the normal whatsapp app Feb 03 10:09:57 maybe she encrypted messages who knows? Feb 03 10:10:50 I dont use whatsapp, but I'm not sure this needs a specific per-message user intervention Feb 03 10:12:22 I am sure this doesn't Feb 03 10:12:38 also I unplugged my phone from charging, and the green light stayed on Feb 03 10:12:43 I think something is on it's way out. Feb 03 10:13:09 can I copy /home and then reflash everything? Feb 03 10:13:22 like wot a normal linux install would do Feb 03 10:14:59 fishbulb_: there is 2.0.24 Feb 03 10:15:06 may, or may not solve your issue Feb 03 10:15:17 can you please give me the link to the .deb file? Feb 03 10:15:55 wait .. why aren't you going to the thread to get these things for yourself as bencoh already indicated? Feb 03 10:16:14 th thread says 2.0.23 Feb 03 10:18:27 http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/y/yappari/yappari_2.0.24_armel.deb Feb 03 10:18:45 thanks Feb 03 10:21:05 it's in -devel, so you get the usual warnings Feb 03 10:21:25 they are all in devel because nobody votes Feb 03 10:22:27 hmm nevermind, it hitted -testing Feb 03 10:22:52 hit* Feb 03 10:24:50 2.0.24 ? Feb 03 10:25:03 I got the devel version Feb 03 10:25:09 I assume it's just the same Feb 03 10:25:38 maemo.org/packages ;) Feb 03 10:25:51 wha? Feb 03 10:31:04 for green LED, start with something as simple as a reboot? Feb 03 10:32:01 too late :p Feb 03 10:32:19 * Sicelo hardly ever considers to flash N900. Feb 03 10:35:13 isn't that a mce bug? Feb 03 10:36:22 * Maxdamantus has only done it once, when he first acquired his device. Feb 03 10:38:32 I did it when the emmc got corrupt Feb 03 10:42:57 yeah, happens Feb 03 10:43:15 mce bug, not emmc corruption Feb 03 10:43:20 it happened mostly because I assumed that during shutdown, as soon as the led was off, the device would be off. Feb 03 10:43:23 but it wasn't. Feb 03 10:43:38 still, reboot should fix it Feb 03 10:43:53 no it didn't :) (corruption) Feb 03 10:44:58 thats why i said about mce ;) Feb 03 10:45:12 :) Feb 03 11:47:53 ~repos Feb 03 11:47:53 somebody said repos was "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Feb 03 16:40:53 ~ximage-fb Feb 03 16:40:59 ~zimage-fb Feb 03 16:40:59 i guess zimage-fb is on http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/maemo/kernels/framebuffer/ Feb 03 16:43:33 oh man, this nokia 108 is actually a "microsoft mobile rm-945" :( Feb 03 16:43:44 feels bad man Feb 03 17:13:10 freemangordon: ping Feb 03 19:33:02 hi all Feb 03 19:33:13 struggling to understand N900 boot sequence Feb 03 19:33:19 my current config Feb 03 19:33:44 N900 CSSU Thumb + backup menu + power-kernel v53 Feb 03 19:34:44 uname -a gives Linux Nokia-N900-42-11 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux Feb 03 19:35:06 scratchbox configured on linux PC Feb 03 19:35:26 already used for compiling myself some programs, namely taskwarrior Feb 03 19:35:30 so hopefully working Feb 03 19:35:43 1st quest: Feb 03 19:36:59 extracted with dpkg -x from package kernel-power-bootimg_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb -> I have kernel image zImage-2.6.28.10-power53 Feb 03 19:37:43 shouldn't 0xffff -m zImage-2.6.28.10-power53 -l -b give me a booting N900 exactly like it should be with no modification? Feb 03 19:38:32 You need to install the kernel modules into the filesystem. Feb 03 19:38:56 jurop: do you use uboot? Feb 03 19:39:41 current being a simlink to 2.6.28.10-power53 Feb 03 19:40:07 no uboot (that will be next step someday, no needing for multiboot right now) Feb 03 19:40:09 Then maybe. Feb 03 19:41:01 Might need to check /sbin/preinit to see if that's enough, but that's probably the weirdest part of the boot sequence regarding kernel requireemnts. Feb 03 19:41:30 (lost message? I have already 2.6.28-omap1 + 2.6.28.10-power53 + current in /lib/modules) Feb 03 19:41:55 (current being a simlink to 2.6.28.10-power53) Feb 03 19:43:02 You're probably not going to lose messages on IRC, unless you're disconnected. Feb 03 19:43:46 Maxdamantus: right, but I did not see my own message :) Feb 03 19:47:04 Maxdamantus:looking through /sbin/preinit I see MODULE_PATH=/lib/modules/'uname -r' Feb 03 19:47:31 (' being interpreted as backtick, I have no backtick on this keyboard) Feb 03 19:49:25 It might be useful adding fbcon as the first module it tries to load. Feb 03 19:54:38 added fbcon, replaced uname -r with current Feb 03 19:55:15 device boots, 0xffff -m zImage-2.6.28.10-power53 -l -b does not boot Feb 03 19:55:26 stuck at nokia writing, no backlight Feb 03 19:56:13 i use uboot with no issues. i don't yet understand where your problem is? :/ Feb 03 19:56:19 21:34 < jurop> uname -a gives Linux Nokia-N900-42-11 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux Feb 03 19:56:32 21:41 < jurop> (current being a simlink to 2.6.28.10-power53) Feb 03 19:57:33 Sicelo:I am trying do do one step at a time - now I just want to test a new kernel I compiled by myself Feb 03 19:58:07 ah. so where do you see Linux Nokia-N900-42-11 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 ... your kernel boots? Feb 03 19:58:29 Sicelo:yes, N900 boots now Feb 03 19:58:56 Sicelo: but if I do: 0xffff -m zImage-2.6.28.10-power53 -l -b Feb 03 19:59:05 Sicelo:my N900 does not boot anymore Feb 03 19:59:19 so I'm just trying to understand boot sequence and what I'm doing wrong Feb 03 19:59:31 How do you know that kernel works? Feb 03 19:59:37 exactly Feb 03 19:59:56 ime, compiling your own old kernel is tricky. Feb 03 20:00:05 oh, well, being extracted from the same package installed on the machine, I hope it works Feb 03 20:00:17 I am not flashing my own kernel (now) Feb 03 20:00:24 It didn't boot for me when the compilation was successful. My toolchain migh've been to different or something. Feb 03 20:00:36 then why are you even loading it with 0xFFFF when it is already on device? :) Feb 03 20:01:25 I am loading the one extracted with dpkg -x from package kernel-power-bootimg_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb Feb 03 20:01:41 this is just for checking if the procedure works Feb 03 20:01:54 since I cannot know if my N900 does not boot because of my own kernel Feb 03 20:01:58 BUT Feb 03 20:02:18 the N900 refuses to boot with the aforementioned kernel which I think it is the same I already have installed Feb 03 20:02:29 so it is quite clear I have an understanding problem here Feb 03 20:02:54 so, you are saying N900 boots the kp53 kernel by itself, but if you load it, doesn't work? Feb 03 20:03:06 Sicelo:exactly Feb 03 20:03:29 Sicelo:and I am trying to understand what's wrong and where I misunderstood something Feb 03 20:04:24 never used 0xFFFF .. is your cmdline correct? Feb 03 20:04:33 try flasher-3.5 as well to be sure Feb 03 20:05:48 I need to look for and download it Feb 03 20:18:56 ok, same result Feb 03 20:19:04 stuck at NOKIA with no backlight Feb 03 20:21:21 flasher-3.5 -k /scratchbox/.../zImage-2.6.28.10-power53 -l -b Feb 03 20:25:20 add the boot options Feb 03 20:27:31 Hi! Can you help me with the problem? When I try to play mp4 file I can hear sound but the video is green. How to fix it? Feb 03 20:32:28 green, solid green? or greenish? Feb 03 20:36:04 bencoh: solid green Feb 03 20:36:42 Sicelo:what boot options do I need? Is there any link to read? Feb 03 20:39:47 hmm, stuck at Nokia with no backlight? sounds like modules or your rootfs is bad now. still boots normally? Feb 03 20:40:00 yes Feb 03 20:40:16 this is why I'm struggling to understand where the problem lies Feb 03 20:40:16 i've forgot the boot options :) Feb 03 20:40:21 try a rootwait Feb 03 20:40:26 ~rescueos Feb 03 20:40:26 well, rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ Feb 03 20:40:33 rescueOS works Feb 03 20:40:38 already tried this afternoon Feb 03 20:41:30 https://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/documentation.txt .. so add that rootdelay thing :) Feb 03 20:42:02 hmm, does power kernel hav einitrd glued or loaded? Feb 03 20:42:28 my uboot .item file has "rootfstype=ubifs rootwait root=ubi0:rootfs" Feb 03 20:42:35 maybe you can add that Feb 03 20:42:58 more fancy one has "rootdelay=20 ubi.mtd=rootfs Feb 03 20:42:59 rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD rootfstype=ubifs root=ubi0:rootfs" Feb 03 20:43:05 one line Feb 03 20:44:30 init=/sbin/preinit ubi.mtd=rootfs root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD,log console=tty0 snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6 Feb 03 20:44:36 thats mine Feb 03 20:44:45 stock powerkernel Feb 03 20:47:29 so can you help me with green videos? Feb 03 20:50:37 Sicelo / KotCzarny: thanks for options - no way here :( Feb 03 20:50:56 could it be something thumb related? Feb 03 20:51:07 I understood kernel-power v53 supports thumb Feb 03 20:51:18 kp53 is fine for thumb .. i'd start to suspect your USB :/ Feb 03 20:51:28 ? Feb 03 20:51:31 alien2003:did you try with some other players Feb 03 20:51:31 maybe use rear ports on computer? Feb 03 20:51:40 Sicelo:flashing works Feb 03 20:51:53 I bricked my spare N900 this afternoon and totally restored it Feb 03 20:52:16 ok Feb 03 20:52:16 jurop: no. Feb 03 20:52:45 n900 is unbrickable Feb 03 20:52:53 alien2003:like mplayer for example? it looks wrong Feb 03 20:53:21 KotCzarny: I agree - better: I had my N900 non booting and totally restored it ;) Feb 03 20:54:08 jurop: just tried. It works with mplayer. Very smooth Feb 03 20:54:14 alien2003:video output driver Feb 03 20:54:26 alien2003:go on with mplayer then :) Feb 03 20:54:40 :] Feb 03 20:54:48 jurop: so no way to play it with default or openmediaplayer? Feb 03 20:54:51 does gstreamer work? Feb 03 20:54:56 alien2003: does mediaplayer plays other videos fine? Feb 03 20:55:02 play* Feb 03 20:55:32 how can I be sure to use a working kernel? Dumping the one on the N900? Feb 03 20:56:11 use booting option instead of flasxhing Feb 03 20:56:21 bencoh: all mp4 files are broken Feb 03 20:56:32 bencoh: green screen and flickering Feb 03 20:56:36 alien2003: others container formats are fine? Feb 03 20:56:49 (mkv, avi, whatever) Feb 03 20:57:37 (mp4 support is in stock, but who knows ....) Feb 03 20:57:46 KotCzarny: I mean, if I 0xffff -b -l I am not flashing, just testing kernels Feb 03 20:57:57 bencoh: yes Feb 03 20:58:08 alien2003: what did you try? h264 in mkv? Feb 03 20:58:27 flv Feb 03 20:58:42 which video format in flv? Feb 03 20:58:53 downloaded from youtube Feb 03 20:59:04 with cutetube Feb 03 20:59:06 jurop; one from kernelpower package should boot Feb 03 20:59:08 hmm, try running ffmpeg -i on it Feb 03 20:59:16 to get the video format/codec Feb 03 21:00:18 if it's not h264, then it might just mean that dsp-accelerated decoding is broken on your device for some reason Feb 03 21:00:38 bencoh, do you know if kp modifies startup scripts? Feb 03 21:00:49 no freaking idea Feb 03 21:01:04 see resulting package with dpkg-deb? Feb 03 21:01:08 or ask pali :) Feb 03 21:01:09 afair it had some failsafe which made it boot normal kernel in some cases Feb 03 21:01:20 uh? Feb 03 21:01:23 im away from my lappy now Feb 03 21:02:01 to best of my knowloedge no, doesn't change startup scripts Feb 03 21:02:08 how would a startup script "boot normal kernel"? Feb 03 21:02:08 bencoh: my mistake... flv doesn't play at all Feb 03 21:02:11 mpg plays Feb 03 21:02:31 alien2003: mpeg2 decoding isn't dsp-accelerated iirc Feb 03 21:02:40 alien2003: does dmseg say anything? Feb 03 21:03:04 bencoh: any ways to fix it? Which packages do I need to properly play it? Feb 03 21:03:28 hrm i may be mistaken but my memory indicates it was reboting once before booting maemo Feb 03 21:04:16 alien2003: did you try rebooting? Feb 03 21:04:38 KotCzarny: that's probably because of it being in act-dead mode before Feb 03 21:04:59 ahm Feb 03 21:05:08 dmesg doesn't show anything related to video playback Feb 03 21:05:15 yes. I've rebooted a couple of timies Feb 03 21:05:30 I've found something in dmesg Feb 03 21:05:39 act-dead mode and all the racy stuff in the booting scripts are pretty annoying, btw. to the point that I *never* attempt to boot when plugged in anymore Feb 03 21:05:43 "procwwrap_detach: deprecated dspbridge ioctl" Feb 03 21:05:51 now that's "funny" Feb 03 21:05:58 which kernel? Feb 03 21:07:26 bencoh: kernel-power Feb 03 21:07:33 looks like pali backported http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg23451.html Feb 03 21:07:37 (or was it nokia?) Feb 03 21:08:37 alien2003: no DSPMMU fault? Feb 03 21:09:07 anyway, try reinstalling your dsp and mafw/gst -related packages Feb 03 21:10:11 bencoh: nothing in dmesg about DSPMMU Feb 03 21:10:19 bencoh: thx I will try Feb 03 21:10:50 bencoh: which gstreamer packages should be installed? Feb 03 21:11:26 check with dpkg -l |grep Feb 03 21:11:59 maybe there's a default stock packages list around on *.maemo.org, but dunno Feb 03 21:14:54 hmm, i had such file from stock and cssu, dont remember if i uploaded it to wik Feb 03 21:14:57 i Feb 03 21:17:27 quest: do I need initfs image? Feb 03 21:18:06 jurop depends Feb 03 21:18:18 what is the problem? Feb 03 21:18:39 I looked for on the internet about initfs but I have not clear understanding Feb 03 21:19:06 KotCzarny: always the same - trying to boot a KP53 kernel for testing on my N900 Feb 03 21:19:43 did you copy the modules? Feb 03 21:19:45 jurop: do you already have kp53 installed? Feb 03 21:19:57 (are you trying to boot kp53 from extras or the one you built?) Feb 03 21:20:09 KotCzarny:I already had them Feb 03 21:20:23 bencoh:the one from extras Feb 03 21:20:53 jurop: did you try the cmdline i or bencoh pasted? Feb 03 21:21:39 err, did I really paste a commandline? Feb 03 21:21:50 KotCzarny:if you mean the cmdline for the kernel, yes Feb 03 21:21:57 bencoh:it was Sicelo's one Feb 03 21:22:02 ahm Feb 03 21:22:25 you can try enabling fb in kernel Feb 03 21:22:33 fb console i mean Feb 03 21:23:08 KotCzarny:do you mean module fbcon in /sbin/preinit ? Feb 03 21:24:00 dont remember the details Feb 03 21:25:32 something like that iirc yeah Feb 03 21:25:34 modprobe fbcon Feb 03 21:26:17 or recompiling the kernel and compiling it in Feb 03 21:26:17 but unless you installed the kp53 modules you probably won't be able to boot into a working state Feb 03 21:27:18 or boot with init=/bin/sh and load the fbconsole blindly? Feb 03 21:28:53 but modprobe at the top of preinit should do the trick Feb 03 21:35:25 thanks all for help Feb 03 21:35:36 it's frustrating not to achieve something that should be that simple Feb 03 21:35:37 :( Feb 03 21:37:46 try same on your other N900 Feb 03 21:39:52 not with thumb though ... Feb 03 21:39:52 same net result Feb 03 21:40:04 I have both on thumb Feb 03 21:40:07 they are exact copy Feb 03 21:40:17 b/c one is working and the other one backup Feb 03 21:40:28 reflash one to stock for testing :) Feb 03 21:40:49 Sicelo:tomorrow Feb 03 21:41:42 i thought to go the U-boot way at least to see some console messages when booting Feb 03 21:43:05 it's a little more involved ... you won't see much really. Feb 03 21:44:30 how far did you go with fbcon that has been suggested to you? Feb 03 21:45:01 my feeling is that it's of no help Feb 03 21:45:06 I don't get to the console Feb 03 21:45:15 just stuck at the NOKIA logo Feb 03 21:45:37 what is the last thing you see? Feb 03 21:45:40 i added the fbcon module in /sbin/preinit and noticed no change Feb 03 21:45:42 NOKIA Feb 03 21:45:45 and no backlight Feb 03 21:45:52 nah man... before Nokia Feb 03 21:45:53 so really - stuck at the very beginning Feb 03 21:45:54 :/ Feb 03 21:45:57 anything Feb 03 21:46:06 plug the cable -> NOKIA Feb 03 21:47:28 Load image: Feb 03 21:47:28 Image type: kernel Feb 03 21:47:28 Image size: 1770112 bytes Feb 03 21:47:28 Image version: 2.6.28.10-power53 Feb 03 21:47:28 Sending image header... Feb 03 21:47:29 Sending image... Feb 03 21:47:31 100% [#################################################################] Feb 03 21:47:35 Done Feb 03 21:47:37 Booting kernel with default cmdline... Feb 03 21:47:39 -> NOKIA with no backlight Feb 03 21:49:42 Load image: Feb 03 21:49:42 File: /scratchbox/users/jurop/home/jurop/kernel_power/opt/boot/zImage-2.6.28.10-power53 Feb 03 21:49:42 Image type: kernel Feb 03 21:49:42 Image size: 1770112 bytes Feb 03 21:49:42 Image version: power/opt/boot/zImage-2.6.28.10-power53 Feb 03 21:49:43 Sending image header... Feb 03 21:49:45 Sending image... Feb 03 21:49:47 100% [#################################################################] Feb 03 21:49:49 Done Feb 03 21:49:51 Booting kernel with cmdline: 'init=/sbin/preinit rootfstype=ubifs rootwait root=ubi0:rootfs'... Feb 03 21:49:53 same result Feb 03 21:49:55 pastebin this kind of stuff! Feb 03 21:50:20 sry Feb 03 21:50:50 your kp53 is different size from mine Feb 03 21:51:19 http://pastebin.com/1fcYNsPV Feb 03 21:51:21 1788916 bytes my side Feb 03 21:51:32 Sicelo:do it work this way? Feb 03 21:51:37 No experience, here Feb 03 21:52:23 Sicelo:ty for dim - i'll go on digging Feb 03 21:55:11 jurop: silly question, but ... if you don't already have kp53, how do you boot it to edit your /sbin/preinit? Feb 03 21:55:19 since you're on thumb Feb 03 21:55:29 bencoh:the device is working Feb 03 21:55:29 do you have kernel-cssu? Feb 03 21:55:38 already with kp-53 Feb 03 21:56:03 I am just trying to flash KP53 from PC b/c I would like to compile my own kernel Feb 03 21:56:10 I see Feb 03 21:56:13 but first I wanted to be sure I understood the procedure Feb 03 21:56:41 hmm Feb 03 21:56:42 now I see I have different KP dimension than Sicelo, which sounds quite strange Feb 03 21:56:43 I guess you compared the boot cmdline? Feb 03 21:56:49 if you have own compile Feb 03 21:56:50 (to /proc/cmdline) Feb 03 21:57:04 just compile fbconsole in, not as module Feb 03 21:57:17 you will see where it fails Feb 03 21:59:09 bencoh: it's the very same of KotCzarny Feb 03 21:59:27 bencoh: btw thanks for the hint to /proc/cmdline Feb 03 21:59:36 KotCzarny:will do Feb 03 22:19:16 hmm Feb 03 22:20:26 zImage-2.6.28~wer53.fiasco│1789021│Dec 10 2014│ Feb 03 22:26:23 eh, gsm data eats battery fast Feb 03 22:26:53 KotCzarny: from which package? Feb 03 22:27:19 from kernel-power Feb 03 22:27:42 anyway, nitenite **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 04 02:59:59 2016