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Feb 14 09:26:06 <ceene> DocScrutinizer51: 77.5KHz is probably well above then bandpass filter of the audio input of a typical pc
Feb 14 09:26:49 <ceene> lowpass filter
Feb 14 09:28:20 <Maxdamantus> It's only approximately 1.614*48 KHz
Feb 14 09:28:28 <Maxdamantus> so I imagine it'd still cause noise.
Feb 14 09:28:49 <KotCzarny> or just split into 2 channels
Feb 14 09:29:21 <KotCzarny> or use any tone lowering filter
Feb 14 09:29:44 * Maxdamantus would probably be surprised if typical PCs had low-pass filters on input.
Feb 14 09:30:14 <Maxdamantus> What sample rate would they do the filter at?
Feb 14 09:30:32 <ceene> imput bandwidth is probably lower than output
Feb 14 09:30:41 <ceene> unless we're speaking topgrade cards
Feb 14 09:30:48 <KotCzarny> many onboard audio chips support up to 192khz
Feb 14 09:31:00 <ceene> integrated cards on the board are pretty shitty
Feb 14 09:31:40 <ceene> i always hear crosstalk from the cdrom or card reader
Feb 14 09:32:02 <ceene> well, maybe that proves your point that some signal level will reach the adc :&
Feb 14 09:33:59 * Maxdamantus has guessed that crosstalk is likely to be external to the ADC.
Feb 14 09:34:51 <ceene> we can always test this all, not that it's very complicated
Feb 14 09:35:39 <KotCzarny> i prefer techn tunes
Feb 14 09:35:42 <ceene> s/complicated/complex/
Feb 14 09:36:01 <ceene> i think complicated is spanglish :D
Feb 14 09:36:13 <KotCzarny> there is such word
Feb 14 09:36:17 <KotCzarny> no worries
Feb 14 09:36:29 <Maxdamantus> The movie with Adam Sandler and Jennifer Anniston?
Feb 14 09:36:50 <Maxdamantus> Oh, not Jennifer Anniston.
Feb 14 09:37:28 <ceene> in the end we'd have to fight with aliasing and all that
Feb 14 12:25:40 <jonwil> I will never understand why Hollywood gives unfunny no-talent so-called "actors" like Adam Sandler the time of day, let alone resources to make big budget movies...
Feb 14 12:26:52 <KotCzarny> if you dont know, its almost sure its.. money
Feb 14 12:28:11 <buZz> quite sure its money :P
Feb 14 12:54:35 <Hurrian> jonwil: Adam Sandler funds his own movies now, people absolutely eat it up
Feb 14 12:55:53 <jonwil> I remember being somewhat excited for Pixels (being a lover of old arcade games and things) but then in the months between its initial release in cinemas and its release in Australian cinemas I found out how crap it was and decided not to go see it :)
Feb 14 12:57:01 <Hurrian> I dunno, I kinda smelled Pixels to be a total cash-in from the trailer - Adam Sandler starring in it was the icing on the cake.
Feb 14 12:57:31 <jonwil> I didn't realize it had Sandler in it until a while after I had seen the trailer
Feb 14 12:57:54 <jonwil> If I had known Sandler was in it when I saw the trailer it would have been obvious how crap it was right off the bat
Feb 14 12:58:06 <jonwil> I suspect my taste in TV and movies is different to the norm given that I absolutely HATE a good whack of what ends up on prime time TV here in Australia
Feb 14 12:59:02 <Hurrian> Eh, a lot of prime time TV is deliberately made to be mass-produced, mindless entertainment. You won't find anything too exciting or edgy, thanks to family-friendly focus groups ;)
Feb 14 12:59:54 <jonwil> Get garbage like "Australia's Got Talent", "Farmer Wants a Wife", "My Kitchen Rules", "I
Feb 14 13:00:34 <Hurrian> Which is too bad, flipping through TV channels is a way better interface for finding shows than trying to search in an IPTV app.
Feb 14 13:01:31 <jonwil> That is why the ABC is so good, they have all the good TV
Feb 14 13:01:31 <Hurrian> jonwil: Most of what's on History nowadays - kinda feels like an unironic caricature of modern day TV
Feb 14 13:02:06 <jonwil> The ABC runs all the stuff no commercial network would touch
Feb 14 13:02:23 <bencoh> I dont think you're really supposed to actually watch prime-time TV
Feb 14 13:02:28 <jonwil> SBS is even better sometimes, running all the wierd stuff and all the foreign language stuff
Feb 14 13:02:29 <Hurrian> welp, public television in my country is like, totally dead.
Feb 14 13:02:38 <bencoh> people just sit in front of it, that's all
Feb 14 13:02:40 <Hurrian> they just rerun 20 year old educational programs.
Feb 14 13:03:23 <bencoh> jonwil: oh, and ... arcade games <3
Feb 14 13:04:45 <Hurrian> actually planning to cut my cable service, and use the cash I saved to upgrade to 100/100mbit, and get my shows that way... *wink wink*
Feb 14 13:05:47 <jonwil> Oh and I totally agree about History, they used to have some good shows in the past (Modern Marvels, Tales of the Gun and Mail Call for example)
Feb 14 13:06:35 <jonwil> I refuse to pay the overpriced rip-off merchants at Foxtel (monopoly pay TV operator in Australia and owned by the same guy who owns all those Sky operations in Europe)
Feb 14 13:06:52 <Hurrian> jonwil: the downward slide in documentary channels started when they first did reality TV :/
Feb 14 13:07:12 <jonwil> Both because its overpriced and full of crap (and even crappier ads) and because I refuse to give Rupert Murdoch a cent of my money if I can get away with it
Feb 14 13:08:10 <jonwil> I dont visit his "news" websites or read his newspapers (which are really only good for wrapping fish & chips) either
Feb 14 13:08:39 <Hurrian> jeez, if there are any bigger money grubbers than ISPs, it's cable operators.
Feb 14 13:09:18 <Hurrian> I still seriously detest having to hook up a cable STB, with a terribad interface to my TV.
Feb 14 13:09:50 <Hurrian> not to mention cable providers overlaying their own ads on the programming. yuck.
Feb 14 13:09:58 <kerio> i have a 100/20
Feb 14 13:10:00 <kerio> feels good man
Feb 14 13:10:24 <bencoh> ceene: I wonder how hard it would be to have libwa play nice with telepathy
Feb 14 13:10:33 <bencoh> (vs porting yappari to use libwa)
Feb 14 13:11:13 <ceene> bencoh: telepathy is the thingy that is called "Conversations" ?
Feb 14 13:11:15 <Hurrian> jonwil: oh, and funny story - while I know that Telstra's known down under to be one of the greedier ISPs, they're setting up a joint venture in my country to put up a new ISP.
Feb 14 13:11:15 <ceene> and all that?
Feb 14 13:11:33 <ceene> i don't know, I guess it could be done
Feb 14 13:11:38 <Avasz> using n900 as irssi server. I don't know what else to do, any ideas for simple projects?
Feb 14 13:11:38 <bencoh> ceene: Conversations is based on telepathy, yeah
Feb 14 13:11:43 <Hurrian> pretty much scared the local ISPs to up their game - I got boosted from 8/4 to 50/50 :D
Feb 14 13:11:45 <jonwil> Yeah Telstra are greedy bastards
Feb 14 13:11:55 <ceene> i wouldn't even know where to start, as you can see :)
Feb 14 13:12:07 <bencoh> me neither to be honest
Feb 14 13:12:20 <bencoh> check the telepathy/jabber plugin maybe
Feb 14 13:12:48 <ceene> it should be the most similar, yeah
Feb 14 13:13:15 <Hurrian> kerio: can't wait 'till we can treat the Internet as a LAN
Feb 14 13:13:19 <jonwil> https://github.com/community-ssu/rtcom-accounts-plugin-jabber is likely to help with that
Feb 14 13:13:34 <ceene> thanks, jonwil 
Feb 14 13:14:00 <ceene> i'll take a look at it
Feb 14 13:14:05 <bencoh> that's only the rtcom part, but yeah
Feb 14 13:14:08 <ceene> first things first, though, i still have to backport libwa to qt4
Feb 14 13:14:56 <bencoh> yeah
Feb 14 13:16:56 <jonwil> I currently pay $35 per month to Telstra for home phone line rental plus $49.99 per month to someone else for ADSL2+ (I am currently syncing at 9215kbps down and 984kbps up) on top of that line (for that I get 250GB per month to use during peek times and 250GB per month for off-peak times and I haven't come anywhere near running out)
Feb 14 13:17:16 <ceene> that's quite expensive
Feb 14 13:17:22 <jonwil> not for Australia its not
Feb 14 13:18:00 <ceene> i'm paying 23 euros for adsl2+ (more or less same synchronization values as yours), without a phone line
Feb 14 13:18:05 <Hurrian> jeebus, $35/month for home phone
Feb 14 13:18:08 <ceene> though this is by far the cheapest here in spain
Feb 14 13:18:14 <jonwil> all the cheap plans are with crappy ISPs or have nearly zero monthly quota (or both)
Feb 14 13:18:15 <bencoh> australia telco are pretty fucked-up
Feb 14 13:18:28 <ceene> i pay anveo.com $2/month for a SIP number with local numbering
Feb 14 13:18:30 <Hurrian> jonwil: what's the overage cost past 250GB?
Feb 14 13:18:38 <ceene> it sounds like crap, but it's cheap as fuck
Feb 14 13:18:54 <jonwil> None, if you exceed 250GB you get your speed cut right back until the end of the billing cycle
Feb 14 13:18:57 <ceene> and I don't have any data caps: as much as I can download/upload with the bandwidth i get
Feb 14 13:19:06 <bencoh> actually the only fact that they still have "quotas" proves it - they're just insane
Feb 14 13:19:19 <ceene> yeah
Feb 14 13:19:26 <bencoh> no, being an island doesn't make for a good excuse
Feb 14 13:20:00 <jonwil> Ask ISPs what they are paying for bandwidth to the USA right now and you might change that tune
Feb 14 13:20:41 <jonwil> I also pay $16.99 a month for my mobile phone service (which is close to the cheapest you can get in Australia)
Feb 14 13:22:17 <Hurrian> jonwil: yikes, presumably after 250GB you get slowed down real bad?
Feb 14 13:22:35 <jonwil> Never come close to using up that 250GB so I dont know
Feb 14 13:22:45 <KotCzarny> i pay ~12usd for 10/10 line, no tv/landline phone, cellphone is ~2usd/year (mostly for receiving calls)
Feb 14 13:22:55 <Hurrian> ever since I got bumped to 50/50, I've been eating up ~2TB/month, and don't think I can ever go back
Feb 14 13:23:23 <ceene> Hurrian: i got that for a while... it was pretty cool, but in the end i didn't even know how to use that much bandwidth
Feb 14 13:23:24 <bencoh> KotCzarny: err, living in poland doesn't exactly cost the same either ;)
Feb 14 13:23:29 <KotCzarny> :)
Feb 14 13:23:37 <bencoh> (same as, say, australia, USA, or even france)
Feb 14 13:23:43 <ceene> it was when megaupload was alive, so i just clicked on "download", waited for 20 seconds and watched a tv show
Feb 14 13:24:00 <ceene> i could download things faster than i could even sort them, let alone watch them
Feb 14 13:24:10 <ceene> 640k are enough for everyone
Feb 14 13:24:16 <Hurrian> ceene: I used to max out my 2mbps ADSL connection 24 hours a day, nowadays I barely use half of my bandwidth
Feb 14 13:24:56 <jonwil> That mobile plan gets me $550 worth of credit for calls and texts (so everything except video calls, international roaming and special premium numbers) and it gets me 1GB of datga
Feb 14 13:25:00 <jonwil> 1GB of data
Feb 14 13:25:03 <Hurrian> unless I start rsyncing my entire drives... in realtime, I don't think I'll ever saturate my link with... uhh, legal content
Feb 14 13:25:07 <KotCzarny> hurrian, if you dont eat shows, 10/10 is more than enough
Feb 14 13:25:26 <jonwil> Excess mobile data costs me 10c/MB
Feb 14 13:25:36 <jonwil> but again 1GB is enough given that I dont use a lot of mobile data
Feb 14 13:25:49 <KotCzarny> i started to like always on mobile plans, even slowed to 32kbit/s
Feb 14 13:25:57 <KotCzarny> enough for irc/quick info checking
Feb 14 13:25:59 <jonwil> My N900 is on WiFi when I am at home or at family houses etc
Feb 14 13:26:24 <Hurrian> KotCzarny: I'd go with about 20/10, if in a multi-user household. Those YouTube/Netflix streams add up quick ;)
Feb 14 13:26:25 <jonwil> and when I am out speeds aren't good enough to do anything heavy with
Feb 14 13:26:42 <KotCzarny> hurrian, im the only user of the net, so its enough
Feb 14 13:26:51 <kerio> i can hardly saturate my 9MB/s down :(
Feb 14 13:27:00 <jonwil> but really its Telstra who are the greedy ones here in Australia
Feb 14 13:27:16 <bencoh> kerio: B or b?
Feb 14 13:27:19 <kerio> B
Feb 14 13:27:36 <kerio> i'm paying for 100/20, i'm getting a pretty solid 75/20
Feb 14 13:27:42 <bencoh> nice
Feb 14 13:27:49 <jonwil> I can saturate my link easily enough if I download large files
Feb 14 13:28:08 <KotCzarny> tbh, having public ip and solid uplink is much more important for me
Feb 14 13:28:18 <KotCzarny> sshfs etc
Feb 14 13:28:28 <jonwil> or watch stuff on various YouTube clone sites
Feb 14 13:29:22 <jonwil> or on legitimate "catch-up" sites from the TV networks
Feb 14 13:29:39 <jonwil> or YouTube itself for that matter :)
Feb 14 13:29:57 <KotCzarny> seriously, grab a book
Feb 14 13:29:59 <KotCzarny> :P
Feb 14 13:30:11 <Hurrian> kerio: tbh, even if I did torrent 24/7, there's still no way to practically keep a 20+mbit line saturated
Feb 14 13:30:21 <kerio> 20 is pretty easy
Feb 14 13:30:26 <kerio> it's barely 1MB/s down
Feb 14 13:30:39 <Hurrian> nah, isn't it ~2.4MB?
Feb 14 13:30:40 <kerio> it's like a handful of downloads plus a stream
Feb 14 13:30:42 <KotCzarny> 20 is 2.4MB
Feb 14 13:30:53 <kerio> yeah but 20 means like 18 at best
Feb 14 13:31:06 <KotCzarny> kerio, not true
Feb 14 13:31:08 <kerio> adsl2+'s theoretical limit is 24mbps in optimal conditions
Feb 14 13:31:16 <KotCzarny> who says adsl?
Feb 14 13:31:27 <KotCzarny> adsl is when you are in rural area
Feb 14 13:31:29 <KotCzarny> :P
Feb 14 13:31:47 <kerio> ?
Feb 14 13:31:50 <buZz> actually no
Feb 14 13:31:55 <Hurrian> yeah, once you pass 10mbit, you gotta go fiber else packet loss just eats the speed away ;)
Feb 14 13:31:56 <KotCzarny> civilised areas have WANs
Feb 14 13:31:56 <buZz> copper wires are quite good
Feb 14 13:32:03 <kerio> KotCzarny: do they, now
Feb 14 13:32:09 <kerio> how would that happen?
Feb 14 13:32:09 <buZz> adsl can go up to 80mbps fullduplex here
Feb 14 13:32:16 <buZz> well, vsdsl
Feb 14 13:32:24 <kerio> that's why i said adsl2+
Feb 14 13:32:33 <Hurrian> yeah, VDSL, very different beast from adsl
Feb 14 13:32:37 <kerio> i have a 100/20 vdsl :3
Feb 14 13:32:43 <buZz> rawr
Feb 14 13:32:47 <buZz> sexy
Feb 14 13:32:48 <kerio> vdsl pretty much requires fiber to the cabinet tho
Feb 14 13:32:53 <Hurrian> also, ADSL is kinda unappetizing past 10mbps because of that upload speed wall
Feb 14 13:32:53 <buZz> nope
Feb 14 13:33:01 <buZz> kerio: vdsl just goes over normal phone cables
Feb 14 13:33:03 <kerio> it's even more dependant on the distance
Feb 14 13:33:04 <kerio> yes
Feb 14 13:33:07 <buZz> the POPs need fiber, yes
Feb 14 13:33:09 <kerio> which is why i said to the cabinet
Feb 14 13:33:11 <buZz> but all POPs do
Feb 14 13:33:14 <KotCzarny> adsl is unappetizing because of the first hop latency
Feb 14 13:33:15 <kerio> hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Feb 14 13:33:34 <buZz> kerio: unless you live in underdeveloped nation :P
Feb 14 13:33:47 <buZz> in which case i have feels for you
Feb 14 13:33:51 <kerio> well
Feb 14 13:33:53 <kerio> i live in italy
Feb 14 13:34:10 <buZz> poor kid
Feb 14 13:34:12 <kerio> which means that my bum doesn't have shit on it
Feb 14 13:34:17 <kerio> it's tradeoffs
Feb 14 13:34:18 <buZz> come to westcoast
Feb 14 13:34:19 <Hurrian> >mfw 50/50 in third world shithole
Feb 14 13:34:21 <buZz> its lovely
Feb 14 13:34:27 <Hurrian> never want to leave home now
Feb 14 13:34:45 <kerio> i'm pretty sure you can't legally sell a building as a house without it having a functioning bathroom with a bidet, here
Feb 14 13:34:57 <KotCzarny> there is 100/100 and 500/500 service available for ~20usd/mo
Feb 14 13:35:51 <buZz> kerio: spraying water at your anus is so much more important than having functional internet
Feb 14 13:35:54 <buZz> clearly
Feb 14 13:35:58 <kerio> ...yes it is
Feb 14 13:36:06 <kerio> it really, really is
Feb 14 13:36:15 <KotCzarny> 15usd for 100/100, and 20usd for 500/500
Feb 14 13:36:16 <KotCzarny> :)
Feb 14 13:36:19 <buZz> 500 fdx costs 70 eu/month here
Feb 14 13:36:23 <buZz> but, no datalimits
Feb 14 13:36:27 <Hurrian> KotCzarny: "brb, setting up a datacenter"
Feb 14 13:36:46 <KotCzarny> hurrian, nah, home cloud is enough
Feb 14 13:36:54 <buZz> lol cloud
Feb 14 13:37:10 <buZz> http://www.bristolwireless.net/wp-content/uploads/cache/2015/01/thereisnocloud-final/-1336573948.png
Feb 14 13:37:28 <buZz> ;)
Feb 14 13:37:31 <KotCzarny> :)
Feb 14 13:37:48 <KotCzarny> that's why its sucky one has to pay for external STATIC ip
Feb 14 13:37:54 <KotCzarny> but at least its an option
Feb 14 13:37:58 <Hurrian> KotCzarny: with offsite backups, I hope ;)
Feb 14 13:38:01 <KotCzarny> which is unavailable on *dsl
Feb 14 13:38:44 <buZz> KotCzarny: just abandon ipv4
Feb 14 13:38:45 <KotCzarny> well, in sane pricing range at least
Feb 14 13:38:47 <buZz> get a he.net tunnel
Feb 14 13:39:05 <buZz> you'll have the same static ipv6 adres-ses- for as long as you have the he.net account
Feb 14 13:39:17 <buZz> also, he.net has no issues pumping 1gbps of ipv6 :P
Feb 14 13:39:19 <KotCzarny> buzz, lot of assle
Feb 14 13:39:23 <KotCzarny> *hassle
Feb 14 13:39:29 <buZz> nah ipv6 is easy
Feb 14 13:39:32 <buZz> no more nat
Feb 14 13:39:45 <KotCzarny> buzz, you need to configure all your devices for it
Feb 14 13:40:09 <buZz> yeah you should have been doing that last 5-10 years already
Feb 14 13:40:14 <buZz> why are you waiting :P
Feb 14 13:40:20 <KotCzarny> laziness?
Feb 14 13:40:23 <bencoh> 20mbs is pretty easy with torrents :)
Feb 14 13:40:29 <bencoh> like, really easy :)
Feb 14 13:41:20 <Hurrian> bencoh: I use Ubuntu torrents to do line tests nowadays - the hard part's sustaining 20mbps all day, everyday
Feb 14 13:41:50 <bencoh> "the hard part" ?
Feb 14 13:42:02 <KotCzarny> bencoh, lots of clicking probably
Feb 14 13:42:03 <KotCzarny> ;)
Feb 14 13:42:19 <bencoh> (and I meant "pretty easy to saturate it)
Feb 14 13:43:50 <KotCzarny> bencoh, unless you download 50G images, you have to click a lot
Feb 14 13:44:11 <bencoh> I never said "download only" :)
Feb 14 13:52:40 <jonwil> Seeding some popular torrents is a great way to really push a broadband connection
Feb 14 16:14:21 <Sicelo> re: yappari + telepathy .. one of challenges also going to be emoji support, i think. also, N900 Conversations doesn't receive/send files. I guess it would be fixable? But i'm not aware that anyone did so to date.
Feb 14 16:19:43 <bencoh> Sicelo: see emojifix from thp
Feb 14 16:19:55 <bencoh> dunno if it would be enough, but ...
Feb 14 16:22:27 <Sicelo> looking at it :)
Feb 14 16:23:59 <Sicelo> seems involved. most yappari users have hard time getting a log from /home/user/.config/scorpius/
Feb 14 16:26:13 <ceene> some of them have trouble even installing yappari
Feb 14 16:26:21 <KotCzarny> :>
Feb 14 16:26:25 <ceene> which sometimes irritates me, some other times amuse me
Feb 14 16:26:47 <ceene> i'm having an stupid problem right now with c++
Feb 14 16:26:55 <ceene> i don't understand a thing about this shit
Feb 14 16:27:05 <ceene> isn't it supposed to allow function overloading?
Feb 14 16:27:23 <Sicelo> actually, yappari clearly disproves the general belief that N900 is a geek's phone :)
Feb 14 16:27:24 <bencoh> well ... I guess there still are some non-term-savvy n900 users
Feb 14 16:27:26 <KotCzarny> yes
Feb 14 16:27:32 <KotCzarny> but what is the problem?
Feb 14 16:27:41 <bencoh> which is quite good in a way
Feb 14 16:27:59 <ceene> src/qtjson.cpp:60: error: too many arguments to function 'QVariant QtJson::parse(const QString&)'
Feb 14 16:28:16 <ceene> but
Feb 14 16:28:21 <ceene> it's stupid
Feb 14 16:28:23 <KotCzarny> maybe you need to define that variant in .h ?
Feb 14 16:28:31 <ceene> because the function doing the calling is that parse(QString)
Feb 14 16:28:33 <ceene> which inside does
Feb 14 16:28:37 <ceene>         return parse(json, success);
Feb 14 16:28:44 <ceene> and there's another function
Feb 14 16:28:44 <ceene> QVariant parse(const QString &json, bool &success)
Feb 14 16:28:54 <ceene> so the first one is supposed to be a wrapper around the second one
Feb 14 16:29:07 <ceene> but for some reason, the compiler doesn't understand this
Feb 14 16:29:56 <ceene> both are defined in a .h file, inside: namespace QtJson { QVariant parse(const QString &json); QVariant parse(const QString &json, bool &success); }
Feb 14 16:30:12 <bencoh> c++11 maybe (?)
Feb 14 16:30:27 <bencoh> try building with a recent g++
Feb 14 16:30:29 <ceene> ah
Feb 14 16:30:31 <ceene> alright
Feb 14 16:30:33 <ceene> forget about it
Feb 14 16:30:39 <ceene> there was an include missing
Feb 14 16:30:45 <ceene> i was just about to go crazy over this
Feb 14 16:31:52 <ceene> ok
Feb 14 16:32:16 <ceene> http://www.cassandraroseclarke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/goodnewseveryone.png
Feb 14 16:32:25 <ceene> libwa has compiled against qt4
Feb 14 16:33:05 <ceene> there are only two functions that I've commented out for the moment, because I don't know still how to solve a small thing
Feb 14 16:33:11 <ceene> but it's regarding phone calls
Feb 14 16:33:19 <ceene> without which we can obviously live
Feb 14 16:35:06 <bencoh> phone calls?
Feb 14 16:35:52 <ceene> voice calls, I meant
Feb 14 16:35:58 <ceene> from yappari
Feb 14 16:36:08 <ceene> is not something i really plan to support like ever...
Feb 14 16:36:20 <ceene> but if libwa implements it, it'd be done sooner or later
Feb 14 16:36:49 <ceene> i'm gonna send coderus a pull request for this
Feb 14 16:36:56 <ceene> so he can check it out and review if i've broken something...
Feb 14 16:37:29 <bencoh> he should be available on irc as well, if you need
Feb 14 16:37:31 <Sicelo> people would definitely worship you if voice calls ever came to N900/yappari :p
Feb 14 16:38:22 <bencoh> what's this voicecalls feature? I thought you couldn't place calls through whatsapp?
Feb 14 16:38:36 <Sicelo> it's been available for a while now 
Feb 14 16:39:02 <bencoh> oh
Feb 14 16:40:12 <ceene> i don't know how to use bitbucke
Feb 14 16:41:15 <ceene> i don't know how to tell it to fork coderus' repo
Feb 14 16:41:23 <ceene> in github that's evident
Feb 14 16:43:19 <ceene> don't understand a thing
Feb 14 16:43:29 <ceene> anyway
Feb 14 16:43:41 <ceene> now i have to see if i can port yappari to this thing
Feb 14 16:44:21 <ceene> Sicelo: have you had the opportunity to test last version of yappari?
Feb 14 16:52:17 <Sicelo> what's the latest :) .25, or .26?
Feb 14 16:52:35 <ceene> the bigger the latest
Feb 14 16:52:38 <Sicelo> with .25, all is working as normal. i still can't IM my sister though
Feb 14 16:52:45 <Sicelo> i didn't try .26
Feb 14 16:52:48 <ceene> try .26 if you can
Feb 14 16:52:49 <Sicelo> will install shortly
Feb 14 16:53:04 <ceene> it tries a little thing
Feb 14 17:11:27 <Sicelo> installed. my sister seems away .. will let you know how it goes
Feb 14 17:14:18 <ceene> ok, thanks
Feb 14 17:14:24 <ceene> wish us all good luck :)
Feb 14 17:22:07 <Sicelo> ceene: seems it's "working." 1 friend with iphone says his 1st message doesn't reach me. but i have got subsequent messages from where
Feb 14 17:22:55 <ceene> ok
Feb 14 17:22:58 <ceene> little by little
Feb 14 17:23:07 <KotCzarny> j #linux-sunxi
Feb 14 17:23:12 <ceene> there may be some way to explicitly request a resent of some message
Feb 14 17:23:12 <KotCzarny> doh.
Feb 14 17:23:18 <ceene> or maybe not
Feb 14 17:43:43 <ceene> https://www.meneame.net/backend/media?type=post&id=2364151&version=0&ts=1455469936&image.jpeg
Feb 14 17:43:50 <ceene> this has been seen on TV :)
Feb 14 17:44:05 <ceene> a couple hours ago
Feb 14 17:44:43 <Sicelo> you guys watch the real deal!
Feb 14 17:44:45 <KotCzarny> bad date
Feb 14 17:45:01 <KotCzarny> not to mention ancient rh
Feb 14 17:45:29 <ceene> it must have been some embedded hardware
Feb 14 17:45:52 <ceene> at least we know all disks are ok!
Feb 14 17:47:49 <ceene> http://soundandpicture.com/2013/08/orads-new-lightweight-hdvg-2go-server-delivers-powerful-real-time-graphics-rendering/
Feb 14 17:47:54 <ceene> it looks like it could be this thing
Feb 14 17:48:36 <ceene> http://bmts.vn/Portals/0/Solutions/Devices/29/HDVG_2.pdf
Feb 14 20:38:29 <ceene> navit seems to have been misuploaded 
Feb 14 20:38:35 <ceene> Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/n/navit/navit-data_0.5.0+dfsg.1-1maemo1-6563_all.deb  Size mismatch
Feb 14 20:38:47 <ceene> and all the other navit related packages as well
Feb 14 20:40:35 <KotCzarny> how come its misuploaded if it had to go through autobuilder?
Feb 14 20:40:59 <ceene> i don't know
Feb 14 20:41:04 <ceene> don't know how it works, really
Feb 14 20:41:08 <KotCzarny> try refreshing repos
Feb 14 20:41:11 <ceene> i just know that apt complains about that
Feb 14 20:41:17 <ceene> i've done that 5 times today to check :)
Feb 14 20:41:20 <KotCzarny> :)
Feb 14 20:46:06 <ceene> i've just promoted yappari 2.0.26
Feb 14 20:46:16 <ceene> at least it doesn't break anything new
Feb 14 20:46:32 <ceene> little by little i'll be trying now to port yappari to libwa
Feb 14 20:46:44 <ceene> who knows, it may not be as hard as i think it's gonna be
Feb 14 20:47:10 <ceene> its API seems cool enough
Feb 14 20:47:21 <ceene> and the code is better structured that the one i have now, yet similar
Feb 14 20:47:33 <ceene> it's clear it all comes from the same place
Feb 14 20:56:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ceene: (navit) ask staff ( merlin1991, freemangordon?) to have a look into it. lockups in autobuilder are not unheard of
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