**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 07 02:59:58 2016 Mar 07 03:13:06 hi RST38h Mar 07 13:09:32 moin Mar 07 13:14:23 hi Mar 07 13:15:44 mreow Mar 07 18:35:54 hrm Mar 07 18:36:13 disabling memory cache makes iceweasel use almost constant 130-140M of mem Mar 07 18:36:42 could it be the key for a decent browser on n900? Mar 07 18:41:26 you can test in microb first Mar 07 18:42:41 does it support disabling mem cache? Mar 07 18:43:07 anyone with debian chroot handy? Mar 07 18:53:55 * Maxdamantus wonders what the actual advantage of memory-based cache in things like browsers. Mar 07 18:54:08 s/.$/ is./ Mar 07 18:54:16 It's not like Linux has some sort of disk cache, right? Mar 07 18:55:08 probably for some embedded system with read only disk...? Mar 07 18:55:10 :Sarcasm detected: Mar 07 18:55:25 maxd: i think it's for rendered objects/history Mar 07 18:56:16 It also caches HTTP responses in memory. Mar 07 18:56:51 anyway, after several pages memory stays at ~130-150M Mar 07 18:57:12 (i'm testing on 1GB machine without swap) Mar 07 18:57:37 earlier with memcache on it was calling oom-killer just after few clicks Mar 07 19:03:48 "disk" writes can be expensive Mar 07 19:04:15 Linux also caches those. Mar 07 19:04:29 unless you mess with crap like fsync. Mar 07 19:04:56 nono, not system cache Mar 07 19:05:02 in-browser mem and disk cache Mar 07 19:06:13 Yes, but most of what's provided by the former are also provided by the latter if you don't do stupid things like fsync all the time. Mar 07 19:07:00 unless you disable both Mar 07 19:07:32 then it wont cache anything (ie. flush objects as soon as page is closed) Mar 07 20:08:34 20:42 < KotCzarny> does it support disabling mem cache? Mar 07 20:08:55 how do you do it? microb does does have most of the standart about:config options Mar 07 20:09:06 yes, that way Mar 07 20:10:38 browser.cache.disk.enable and browser.cache.memory.enable (both set to: false) Mar 07 20:11:22 mind you, it's bad if your gsm data is limited Mar 07 20:15:54 KotCzarny: so did you try on microb? Mar 07 20:16:44 not yet Mar 07 20:17:01 i was rather thinking about regular firefox/iceweasel Mar 07 20:17:01 hmm, cache.memory.capacity is already set to 40960 Mar 07 20:17:10 40mo, not that much Mar 07 20:17:31 bencoh: 40M is a lot when you only have few megs available Mar 07 20:22:36 well at least it quickly gives memory back when switching between pages Mar 07 20:22:44 (apple.com -> kernel.org for instance) Mar 07 20:23:03 unless it goes swapped Mar 07 20:23:11 then it's not so quick Mar 07 20:23:20 s/goes/gets/ Mar 07 20:24:50 system still feels snappy so I dont think it's swapping a lot Mar 07 20:25:18 standard Mar 07 20:27:01 ? Mar 07 20:36:32 ~spell standart Mar 07 20:36:33 I can't find alternate spellings for 'standart' Mar 07 20:36:56 that's poor, infobot Mar 07 20:37:02 ~spell standard Mar 07 20:37:02 ßtändärt Mar 07 20:37:03 I can't find alternate spellings for 'standard' Mar 07 20:37:51 ~spell kitchen Mar 07 20:37:52 I can't find alternate spellings for 'kitchen' Mar 07 20:38:02 infobot: useless Mar 07 20:38:03 * infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( Mar 07 20:40:02 ~dict standard Mar 07 20:40:03 Dictionary 'standard' (1 of 17): any distinctive flag . Mar 07 20:40:24 ~dict stand Mar 07 20:40:26 Dictionary 'stand' (3 of 28): a growth of similar plants (usually trees) in a particular area; "they cut down a stand of trees" ;; hold one's ground; maintain a position; be steadfast or upright; "I am standing my ground and won't give in!" ;; be standing; be upright; "We had to stand for the entire performance!" . Mar 07 20:40:30 ~dict art Mar 07 20:40:31 Dictionary 'art' (1 of 13): the creation of beautiful or significant things; "art does not need to be innovative to be good"; "I was never any good at art"; "he said that architecture is the art of wasting space beautifully" . Mar 07 20:42:43 ~dict bot Mar 07 20:42:44 Dictionary 'bot' (1 of 9): Broadcast Online TV. Mar 07 20:42:54 yeeeaah riiiiight. Mar 07 20:42:58 ~dict bencoh Mar 07 20:43:00 could not find definition for bencoh Mar 07 20:43:10 * bencoh is undefined Mar 07 20:43:32 dragons ahead! Mar 07 20:48:05 ~dict 8 bot Mar 07 20:48:07 [8/9] [common on IRC, MUD and among gamers; from ?robot?] 1. An {IRC} or {MUD} user who is actually a program. On IRC, typically the robot provides some useful service. Examples are NickServ, which tries to prevent random users from adopting {nick}s already claimed by others, and MsgServ, which allows one to send asynchronous messages to be delivered when the recipient signs on. Also common are ?annoybots?, such as KissServ, which perform no useful ... Mar 07 20:55:39 tried different memory.cache.size values, all finished with oom-killer Mar 07 20:56:11 either there is a bug or it's bahving different than expected Mar 07 21:19:12 funnily enough trying to open 4160x3120x24bit makes machine swap furiously Mar 07 21:19:36 firefox has some funky upscaler when resizing images Mar 07 23:32:56 “In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd people.” Mar 07 23:33:00 —Linus Torvalds Mar 07 23:35:19 Heh, that's already on Wikiquote. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 08 02:59:59 2016