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Apr 12 05:24:05 <azkay> Why is it so hard to find a smalllll fm receiver that DOESN'T need a microcontroller to use? ):
Apr 12 05:27:42 <azkay> I got some cheapo chinese FM headphones, but the pcb inside is too big to use, booo
Apr 12 05:34:41 <ecc3g> those push to tune receivers using the *9088 tuner chips?
Apr 12 05:35:37 <ecc3g> scary that SMT is still too big...
Apr 12 08:47:18 <Sicelo> anyone here going to DebConf16?
Apr 12 09:50:40 <HRH_H_Crab> anyone here got debian running on their n900? i finally got it installed via: https://github.com/dderby/debian900
Apr 12 09:50:56 <HRH_H_Crab> things seem to be working really nicely so far, but im a bit stuck with audio.
Apr 12 09:51:16 <HRH_H_Crab> i read something about speaker damage and pulseaudio and xprot but im not really sure what to make of that.
Apr 12 09:52:30 <Sicelo> these days there are many more running alt.os on N900 :) Wizzup one of them .. maybe he can help you
Apr 12 09:54:12 <HRH_H_Crab> i think my (glorious 4.0.0-rc1+) kernel comes from Pali
Apr 12 09:54:24 <HRH_H_Crab> he may well know.
Apr 12 09:54:38 <Sicelo> what doesn't he know ;)
Apr 12 09:54:41 <HRH_H_Crab> i should look at his sources too
Apr 12 10:41:47 <drathir> HRH_H_Crab: alarm rulez...
Apr 12 11:01:08 <HRH_H_Crab> drathir: not sure what you mean?
Apr 12 11:01:34 <L29Ah> нян
Apr 12 11:02:11 <Sicelo> he means arch linux
Apr 12 11:03:50 <drathir> ijai?
Apr 12 11:04:57 <drathir> L29Ah: szto eta?
Apr 12 11:05:45 <drathir> HRH_H_Crab: Sicelo is correct https://archlinuxarm.org
Apr 12 11:09:31 <Wizzup> HRH_H_Crab: hi there
Apr 12 11:09:49 <Wizzup> I have gotten audio to work on 4.3 and 4.5 from Pali
Apr 12 11:09:59 <Wizzup> You mostly just need to tweak a few ALSA settings
Apr 12 11:10:04 <Wizzup> I have them documented here somewhere...
Apr 12 11:10:23 <Wizzup> Right, see: http://sprunge.us/aPeU
Apr 12 11:10:36 <Wizzup> Specifically the last two items are important
Apr 12 11:10:53 <Wizzup> (just the volume change is not so important)
Apr 12 11:11:12 <Wizzup> Hm, I recall there being more changes. Well, see if you can figure it out with this. If not, let me know
Apr 12 11:11:20 <Wizzup> You can use amixer to dump the current config - that's how I made the diff
Apr 12 11:16:29 <L29Ah> can you make voice calls?
Apr 12 11:17:36 <Wizzup> L29Ah: for most usable purposes, no. pavelm managed to make some voice calls using mainline and ofono
Apr 12 11:17:44 <Wizzup> but I don't think it is "quite there" yet
Apr 12 11:17:49 <Wizzup> sms and data seems to work on gentoo at least
Apr 12 12:12:54 <HRH_H_Crab> im getting lots of segfaults 
Apr 12 12:12:59 <HRH_H_Crab> maybe i need a newer kernel
Apr 12 12:15:21 <Wizzup> segfaults in what
Apr 12 12:16:32 <HRH_H_Crab> things like installing mplayer / pulseaudio
Apr 12 12:17:32 <HRH_H_Crab> anyway...
Apr 12 12:17:41 <HRH_H_Crab> gonna rebuild the rootfs and use a newer kernel.
Apr 12 12:21:20 <ceene> Wizzup: what file is that patch for?
Apr 12 12:21:44 <Wizzup> ceene: it's not a patch, it's a diff for amixer output
Apr 12 12:21:49 <Wizzup> so you can figure out what things to change in ALSA
Apr 12 12:22:07 <ceene> ah!
Apr 12 12:22:10 <ceene> won't that break speakers?
Apr 12 12:22:54 <KotCzarny> just add highpass filter to alsa ?
Apr 12 12:23:10 <KotCzarny> or just remember to use headphones
Apr 12 12:25:03 <Wizzup> ceene: if you play too loud, you might.
Apr 12 12:25:18 <Wizzup> I used speakers without problems for a bit, but I was very careful to not play too loud
Apr 12 12:26:02 <HRH_H_Crab> hmmm.
Apr 12 12:26:39 <HRH_H_Crab> i don't understand this "speaker breaking" issue. i was planning to use it a lot for audio but maybe i should knock that idea on the head and leave that to maemo.
Apr 12 12:27:28 <KotCzarny> onboard speakers cant handle too much displacement
Apr 12 12:27:38 <KotCzarny> ~xprot
Apr 12 12:27:39 <infobot> rumour has it, xprot is http://wiki.maemo.org/Porting/Audio/Q_and_A_RE-PA and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91325
Apr 12 12:36:19 <ceene> I've got a few things in a Notes file
Apr 12 12:36:27 <ceene> regarding kernel and rootfs build for n900
Apr 12 12:36:58 <ceene> https://github.com/agamez/buildroot-N900 and https://github.com/agamez/buildroot-N900/blob/master/Notes
Apr 12 12:37:16 <ceene> recently updated with Wizzup's alsa details :)
Apr 12 12:38:33 <Wizzup> I have more notes that I plan to publish in a more usable form later
Apr 12 12:39:42 <ceene> that'd be cool
Apr 12 12:39:52 <ceene> those are just notes that I take while building the system
Apr 12 12:40:28 <Wizzup> :)
Apr 12 12:40:30 <Wizzup> same here
Apr 12 13:40:20 <DocScrutinizer05> moin folks
Apr 12 13:43:50 <DocScrutinizer05> Wizzup: (audio) \o/. How about a comprehensive amixer -c0>working.amixer-in
Apr 12 13:44:18 <DocScrutinizer05> amixer -c1>>working.amixer-in
Apr 12 13:44:18 <Wizzup> The problem is that I currently only have a working mixer. So I'd have to save that, reset to default state, and do that
Apr 12 13:44:31 <Wizzup> I can do that in a bit. But I want to double verify that it works >>atm<<
Apr 12 13:44:39 <Wizzup> and I need to do some work first
Apr 12 13:44:46 <DocScrutinizer05> np
Apr 12 13:46:09 <DocScrutinizer05> working mixer is better than non-working mixer anyway - even for setting same stuff on other devices. You don't need to know what been wrong before
Apr 12 13:51:01 <DocScrutinizer05> amixer is a tiny bit braindamaged in that it can't take own output for STDIN. Use `alsactl -f working.alsactl 0 store`
Apr 12 13:51:38 <DocScrutinizer05> http://paste.opensuse.org/5135500
Apr 12 13:52:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ^^^ is standard fremantle, incl frigiin PA over ALSA
Apr 12 13:52:40 <DocScrutinizer05> while idle
Apr 12 13:53:25 <DocScrutinizer05> `alsactl -f working.alsactl 0 restore` does exactly what it says
Apr 12 13:55:01 <DocScrutinizer05> note the REstore
Apr 12 13:55:21 <DocScrutinizer05> which is inverse to store
Apr 12 13:57:25 * DocScrutinizer05 doesn't know if fremantle has the pretty much default `alsactl restore` (without -f, so it uses the defualt config file) in boot
Apr 12 14:00:18 <DocScrutinizer05> >>/var/lib/alsa/asound.state (or whatever file you specify with the -f flag) is used to store current settings for your soundcards.<< 
Apr 12 14:00:26 <DocScrutinizer05> > /etc/rc0.d/K50alsa-utils:               alsactl -F restore $CARD >/dev/null 2>&1
Apr 12 14:03:16 <DocScrutinizer05> wow what a monster:  http://paste.opensuse.org/57226342
Apr 12 14:11:34 <DocScrutinizer05> and pretty weird on maemo too. anyway I don't have a /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
Apr 12 17:07:41 <Linkandzelda> hi, so i just picked up an n900. i havent had one since 2010. seems the nokia repos and ovi repos are no longer working? is there a replacement?
Apr 12 17:08:36 <KotCzarny> ~maemo-repos
Apr 12 17:08:37 <infobot> it has been said that maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
Apr 12 17:08:59 <KotCzarny> but those are mostly for reinstalling user induced b0rkages
Apr 12 17:09:09 <KotCzarny> ovi store is no more too
Apr 12 17:09:34 <Sicelo> ovi repos are mirrored on maemo-repos.com afaik
Apr 12 17:10:12 <Linkandzelda> i see
Apr 12 17:10:14 <Linkandzelda> thanks
Apr 12 17:10:25 <KotCzarny> if you need reflashing then:
Apr 12 17:10:26 <KotCzarny> ~flashing
Apr 12 17:10:27 <infobot> it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline
Apr 12 17:10:34 <KotCzarny> grab the script, unpack and run
Apr 12 17:10:50 <KotCzarny> it will fetch needed files on the go
Apr 12 17:11:12 <Linkandzelda> thanks, though i already managed to kill an image today and just reflashed about 30 mins ago :)
Apr 12 17:11:19 <KotCzarny> :)
Apr 12 17:39:33 <Linkandzelda> one other thing, does maemo have a chance of getting vsync or a screen tear fix?
Apr 12 17:40:13 <Sicelo> restart :)
Apr 12 17:40:16 <Sicelo> you have that?
Apr 12 17:41:00 <Linkandzelda> i have screen tearing yea. im about to install cssu and see if it resolves it
Apr 12 17:41:25 <KotCzarny> hmm, the last person to hack around vsync was ssvb in ~2009
Apr 12 17:41:33 <KotCzarny> i might be wrong tho
Apr 12 17:41:50 <Linkandzelda> surprising that nobody else attempted it since
Apr 12 17:42:20 <Linkandzelda> though funny thing, i dont remember it back in 2010, maybe i didnt notice
Apr 12 17:44:32 <Sicelo> i've had it only 3 times in 5 years of daily N900 use
Apr 12 17:45:43 <Linkandzelda> interesting
Apr 12 17:51:40 <sixwheeledbeast> same here, about the same as above.
Apr 12 20:30:52 <Linkandzelda> i have a small issue with the application manager. it takes about 5 mins to open and display the categories. then after i install an app it does the same thing and takes 30-40 seconds to show the old list before i can install another app. is there a way to speed that up?
Apr 12 20:51:46 <sixwheeledbeast> Linkandzelda: not really 
Apr 12 20:51:49 <sixwheeledbeast> ~ham
Apr 12 20:51:50 <infobot> ham is, like, Hildon Application Manager.  Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham
Apr 12 20:52:35 <sixwheeledbeast> there is speedyham but that is a testing thing at the moment
Apr 12 20:58:18 <Linkandzelda> i just found fam, much better!
Apr 12 20:58:34 <Sicelo> much worse
Apr 12 20:58:43 <Linkandzelda> how is it worse?
Apr 12 20:58:45 <Sicelo> fam
Apr 12 20:58:55 <Sicelo> ~fam
Apr 12 20:58:56 <infobot> [fapman] Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam
Apr 12 20:59:21 <Linkandzelda> damn
Apr 12 20:59:28 <Linkandzelda> i should get with the times
Apr 12 20:59:57 <Sicelo> either be patient enough with ham, or just get speedyham instead
Apr 12 21:00:18 <Linkandzelda> is there like a 2015/2016 guide to the n900 with all current stuff in it that i can follow so i make no mistakes?
Apr 12 21:00:47 <Sicelo> tbh, i use apt 99% of the time, but, i am not saying you should
Apr 12 21:03:19 <Linkandzelda> i would, but right now i just wanted an easy way to get the name and description of all available packages so i get what looks interesting
Apr 12 21:04:16 <Sicelo> apt-cache search quicker for that, and absolutely safe, of course
Apr 12 21:05:22 <Linkandzelda> guess i'll check out speedyham, failing that apt-cache
Apr 12 21:05:36 <Linkandzelda> ~speedyHAM
Apr 12 21:05:36 <infobot> SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb.  SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU-testing now
Apr 12 21:05:52 <Linkandzelda> is there a place i can read all commands this bot offers?
Apr 12 21:08:53 <Sicelo> dunno :)
Apr 12 21:09:13 <Sicelo> ap-cache search will be faster than any gui package manager fwiw
Apr 12 21:09:19 <Sicelo> *apt
Apr 12 21:11:16 <Sicelo> Linkandzelda: there's the wiki to help you with current know working stuff .. but as you can realize .. commuinity effort, and some stuff therefore may not be always up to date there. asking here on IRC or tmo will usually result in quick responses, depending on time of day
Apr 12 21:11:37 <Sicelo> and our greatest devs also can be found at both places
Apr 12 21:12:39 <Linkandzelda> sweet
Apr 12 21:52:55 <Linkandzelda> Sicelo: are you a dev?
Apr 12 22:02:06 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tell Linkandzelda about jrtools
Apr 12 22:20:27 <sixwheeledbeast> ~listkeys #maemo
Apr 12 22:20:28 <infobot> Factoid search of '#maemo' by key (15 of 104): #maemo beasttweaks ;; #maemo bm-images ;; #maemo bme-replacement ;; #maemo closed ;; #maemo cssu-state ;; #maemo db ;; #maemo debhelper7 ;; #maemo donate ;; #maemo emmc2 ;; #maemo emmc3 ;; #maemo gmo ;; #maemo mcebug ;; #maemo mhd ;; #maemo microb-proxy ;; #maemo mirrors.
Apr 12 22:21:25 <sixwheeledbeast> I doubt random factoids will help 
Apr 12 22:21:41 <DocScrutinizer05> ~+help
Apr 12 22:21:41 <infobot> I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"
Apr 12 22:21:42 <infobot> 37 topics: action, addressing, alternation, author, banadd, bandel, botmail, chanadd, chandel, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, convert, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dice, dict, dns, do, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, flags, forget, freshmeat
Apr 12 22:21:42 <infobot> 39 topics: google, hex, hex2ip, hostadd, hostdel, httpdtype, identify, ignore, ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, lc, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, md5, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, onjoin, ord, page, part, piglatin, quote, redirection
Apr 12 22:21:42 <infobot> 33 topics: rename, reply, reverse, rot13, rssfeeds, say, scramble, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, translate, uc, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, upsidedown, uptime, useradd, userdel, verstats, wantnick, whois, wikipedia, wtf
Apr 12 22:22:05 <DocScrutinizer05> ~searchvalues maemo.org
Apr 12 22:22:14 <ds3> y is at http:///
Apr 12 22:22:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listvalues maemo.org
Apr 12 22:22:28 <ds3> where can i find y?
Apr 12 22:22:33 <infobot> Factoid search of 'maemo.org' by value (18 of 198): #maemo bnf ;; #maemo cherry ;; #maemo power ;; #maemo uboot ;; #maemo vkbd-portrait ;; aegis-no-thanks ;; arch-n900 ;; becomeroot ;; bme ;; boot-sd ;; bq-calibrate ;; bupbat ;; cssu-devel ;; extras-product ;; extras-upload ;; hildon-extras ;; jrtools ;; maemo-packaging.
Apr 12 22:22:40 <DocScrutinizer05> ~where is y
Apr 12 22:22:40 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: what are you talking about?
Apr 12 22:22:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ~y
Apr 12 22:22:57 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys y
Apr 12 22:22:58 <infobot> Factoid search of 'y' by key (13 of 9246): (well everyone ;; babelfish x to de: today ;; btw., the man pages are the only documentation, or ;; country .bv ;; country bouvet island ;; country kenya ;; country vanuatu ;; diary.py ;; ebonify "my kung fu ;; gyahtzee ;; haha you ;; linux intrusion detection system ;; only does it when s/.
Apr 12 22:23:22 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys ^y$
Apr 12 22:23:24 <infobot> Factoid search of '^y$' by key returned no results.
Apr 12 22:23:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ~y is blabla
Apr 12 22:23:32 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: okay
Apr 12 22:23:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys ^y$
Apr 12 22:23:37 <infobot> Factoid search of '^y$' by key (1): y.
Apr 12 22:23:45 <DocScrutinizer05> ~y
Apr 12 22:23:46 <infobot> i heard y is blabla
Apr 12 22:23:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget y
Apr 12 22:23:51 <infobot> i forgot y, DocScrutinizer05
Apr 12 22:24:23 <DocScrutinizer05> ~botsnack
Apr 12 22:24:23 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: thanks
Apr 12 22:25:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget (well everyone
Apr 12 22:25:25 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot (well everyone
Apr 12 22:25:53 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget babelfish x to de: today
Apr 12 22:25:54 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot babelfish x to de: today
Apr 12 22:26:09 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget btw., the man pages are the only documentation, or
Apr 12 22:26:09 <infobot> i forgot btw., the man pages are the only documentation, or, DocScrutinizer05
Apr 12 22:26:35 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal haha you
Apr 12 22:26:35 * infobot beats you about the head with the ha ha bat
Apr 12 22:27:38 <DocScrutinizer05> ~literal only does it when s/
Apr 12 22:27:39 <infobot> "only does it when s/" is "the first of the line?"
Apr 12 22:27:51 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lforget only does it when s/
Apr 12 22:27:57 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget only does it when s/
Apr 12 22:27:57 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: i forgot only does it when s/
Apr 12 22:28:30 <azkay> ecc3g: Those kits are still too big, I need something that'll fit in headphones
Apr 12 22:28:41 <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
Apr 12 22:28:57 <DocScrutinizer05> sounds like hardware
Apr 12 22:29:05 <Sicelo> Linkandzelda: no, no dev. just hopeless user
Apr 12 22:30:24 <azkay> Yeah I'm trying to find a small fm stereo receiver with analog volume that I don't need a microcontroller to use :P
Apr 12 22:30:32 <azkay> They're more uncommon than I thought
Apr 12 22:30:51 <azkay> I think I'll just have to get a tiny microcontroller and get one of the controlled ones
Apr 12 22:31:27 <azkay> maybe sparkfun.com/products/retired/8770 + adafruit.com/products/1500
Apr 12 22:31:57 <DocScrutinizer05> umm
Apr 12 22:32:14 <DocScrutinizer05> why don't you slaughter a cheesy tiny FM radio?
Apr 12 22:32:52 <azkay> Haven't found one small enough
Apr 12 22:32:56 <DocScrutinizer05> they are as small as a quarter of a matchbox
Apr 12 22:33:08 <azkay> I had a pair of cheapo chinese FM headphones, took the receiver out of those but they were still too big
Apr 12 22:33:33 <DocScrutinizer05> I actually only know of I2C controlled chips, but that doesn't mean a thing, never searched for all-in-one chips
Apr 12 22:34:23 <DocScrutinizer05> I bet there must be chips that have 4 lines for pushbuttons: freq+/- and vol+/-
Apr 12 22:34:48 <DocScrutinizer05> van't be larger than 6mm^2
Apr 12 22:34:53 <DocScrutinizer05> can't, even
Apr 12 22:35:33 <DocScrutinizer05> you'll need some additional birdseed
Apr 12 22:38:00 <DocScrutinizer05> FFS, digikey gives me error infinite redirect
Apr 12 22:40:05 <DocScrutinizer05> http://search.silabs.com/search?q=FM%20receiver&site=english&client=silabs&proxystylesheet=silabs
Apr 12 22:40:46 <DocScrutinizer05> azkay: ^^^
Apr 12 22:40:57 <DocScrutinizer05> you might find a few useful chips there
Apr 12 22:43:08 <DocScrutinizer05> http://pages.silabs.com/LP-ATDD-Radio.html
Apr 12 22:49:19 <DocScrutinizer05> (additional birdseed) prolly as low as 3 to 5 components
Apr 12 22:51:55 <DocScrutinizer05> Linkandzelda: you still around?
Apr 12 22:52:56 <DocScrutinizer05> Linkandzelda: ~jrtools first 3 plus some paragraphs should get you started
Apr 12 22:53:04 <DocScrutinizer05> plus, of course:
Apr 12 22:53:08 <DocScrutinizer05> ~flashing
Apr 12 22:53:08 <infobot> maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline
Apr 12 22:53:22 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys flashing
Apr 12 22:53:23 <infobot> Factoid search of 'flashing' by key (11 of 12): yes. the flashing the bootldr #DEL# ;; maemo-flashing ;; flashing it past during installation ;; #qi-hardware flashing ;; qi-hardware flashing #DEL# ;; #openmoko-cdevel flashing ;; flashing ;; #harmattan flashing ;; flashing-cmdline ;; no. maemo-flashing #DEL# ;; are we sure eflashing.
Apr 12 22:53:37 <DocScrutinizer05> ~flashing-cmdline
Apr 12 22:53:37 <infobot> flashing-cmdline is, like, http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12
Apr 12 22:54:19 <DocScrutinizer05> ~forget are we sure eflashing
Apr 12 22:54:20 <infobot> i forgot are we sure eflashing, DocScrutinizer05
Apr 12 22:56:50 * DocScrutinizer05 considers a fiasco that has automatic firstboot HTTP:// download for additional scripts
Apr 12 22:57:39 <DocScrutinizer05> err combined of course
Apr 12 23:04:58 <azkay> I seee
Apr 12 23:05:11 <azkay> Theres also littlebirdelectronics.com.au/products/grove-fm-receiver but not sure if it's stereo
Apr 12 23:13:00 <DocScrutinizer05> fist educated guess: http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/File:Grove_-_FM_Receiver_Photo.jpg looks like stereo (3pin) jack
Apr 12 23:13:08 <DocScrutinizer05> first*
Apr 12 23:14:02 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/7/70/Grove_-_FM_Receiver_v1.0_sch_pdf.pdf confirms that
Apr 12 23:14:50 <DocScrutinizer05> that's prolly as good as it gets, nice design
Apr 12 23:15:57 <DocScrutinizer05> azkay: nice find! :-)
Apr 12 23:17:46 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.seeedstudio.com/wiki/images/d/df/SX6119_%E6%94%B6%E9%9F%B3IC_datasheet.pdf  FFS! :-(
Apr 12 23:18:13 <azkay> Haha yeah, nice english right? :P
Apr 12 23:18:17 <azkay> Maybe I should risk it
Apr 12 23:20:42 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway among all the gibberish: "2.0V to 3.6V"
Apr 12 23:21:10 <DocScrutinizer05> you definitely should. if you want another source I just found http://digitalmeans.co.uk/shop/fm_receiver-grove
Apr 12 23:21:43 <DocScrutinizer05> (2V 3V6) means you prolly can even kick out the LDO they got there
Apr 12 23:22:08 <DocScrutinizer05> just run it from two AAAA or similar, or a CR2032
Apr 12 23:22:46 <DocScrutinizer05> oooh, and /join #qi-hardware
Apr 12 23:22:51 <DocScrutinizer05> sort of OT in here
Apr 12 23:24:05 <DocScrutinizer05> and keep pin15 floating ;-)
Apr 12 23:25:19 <DocScrutinizer05> you'll need an antenna instead of the headphone cable they use in that Grove design
Apr 12 23:26:21 <DocScrutinizer05> well, actually you could use the wires to other side of your headphones for antenna too
Apr 12 23:27:48 <DocScrutinizer05> mount the circuit left side, connect the GND wire from right side speaker via a bead to GND
Apr 12 23:28:22 <DocScrutinizer05> have a sufficiently large GND plane (or wire) connected to circuit ground on left side
Apr 12 23:29:30 <DocScrutinizer05> actually the Grove antenna circuit is rather pathetic
Apr 12 23:30:47 <DocScrutinizer05> ...given in your earphones' cable, GND and ROUT are parallel and very close together, and GND of earphones is connected to chip's GND without any bead
Apr 12 23:48:55 <azkay> Thanks for all the help :)
Apr 12 23:49:30 <azkay> Yeah I was planning on running an antenna through the top band of the headphones
Apr 12 23:49:49 <azkay> Went back to my N900 just for the fm transmitter lol
Apr 12 23:51:02 <azkay> Are you aware of anyone wiring up a different antenna to the n900? From the point here: wiki.maemo.org/images/b/b7/Nokia_N900_rear-internal-Hirose_u.fl_GSM_and_non_Hirose_u.fl_FM_transmitter_antenna_and_test_pads.png
Apr 13 00:45:33 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, been afk
Apr 13 00:46:39 <DocScrutinizer05> could anybody please help a windows-7 noob how to configure a NIC to 192.168.1.11/48 on that friggin system?
Apr 13 02:24:12 <DocScrutinizer05> nevermind
Apr 13 02:24:43 <DocScrutinizer05> particularly not /48 ;-)
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