**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 23 02:59:58 2016 Apr 23 08:19:42 DocScrutinizer05: pong Apr 23 08:20:04 hmm, Apr 23 08:20:12 aah, your mail bounced Apr 23 08:20:27 hmm? Apr 23 08:47:05 say, if i wanna switch from crunchbang linux to something more maemo related. Should go for Devuan or Debian? Apr 23 08:47:41 or is there yet another recommendable lightweight alternative Apr 23 08:48:18 my box is 1,3ghz athlon tb with 768mb of ram... Apr 23 08:51:05 or should consider archlinux since it claims to have arm port? Apr 23 09:07:38 Vajb: Devuan Apr 23 09:08:00 but why are you aiming for Maemo-related? Apr 23 09:09:06 debian isn't like maemo... *anymore* Apr 23 09:09:19 devuan is the new maemo base Apr 23 09:09:24 defacto Apr 23 09:09:46 devuabn also has ARM ports Apr 23 09:10:42 luke-jr: I guess learning for similar system architectures is easier than e.g. having a debian on one system and a rehat on the other Apr 23 09:11:50 exactly what doc said Apr 23 09:12:26 because of maemo i've learnt more about linux than using desktop linux for over 10 years Apr 23 09:13:07 so i thought it would be sane to switch desktop to something more "maemo like" Apr 23 09:14:01 go for devuan then Apr 23 09:15:10 not only is devuan the "better debian" now, but also the guys and gals over at #devuan are really nice and helpsome Apr 23 09:15:37 as long as you don't paster with too many questions that already got answered in some wiki Apr 23 09:15:40 cool, thx Apr 23 09:15:45 pester, even Apr 23 09:16:40 though for devuan/debian you usually can get help from maemo folks as well Apr 23 09:16:52 well i rather search for answers for others problems which might be similar than ask my own Apr 23 09:26:25 good approach Apr 23 09:58:21 When you say 'Maemo like' I assume you mean DE not arch as crunchbang was debian based? Apr 23 10:03:00 yeah. Crunchbang got discontinued and i wanna try something else Apr 23 10:16:14 hi Apr 23 10:29:33 So you want the DE to be Maemo like or do you like Desktop feel? Apr 23 10:51:31 Did you look at the crunchbang forks? Apr 23 11:07:50 or is lightweight the key? Apr 23 11:32:16 i don't know how to continue Apr 23 11:32:20 :( Apr 23 11:32:23 libwa won't login Apr 23 11:57:07 moin :) Apr 23 15:06:44 sixwheeledbeast: im happy with desktop. I don't want maemonized DE Apr 23 15:07:10 lightweight is the key element there Apr 23 15:08:47 azkay_: i set it to use some forks repo already to get updates at least. Apr 23 15:09:49 i think they were bunsenlabs Apr 23 15:10:02 I was using crunchbangplusplus, didn't like the bunsenlabs one Apr 23 15:11:38 well i have some level of dislike for crunchbang since i started using it. Can't say what it is tho. Apr 23 15:12:03 ): Apr 23 15:12:56 Devuan is in Alpha4 at the moment are you looking for an LTS type release? Apr 23 15:13:25 preferably yes Apr 23 15:13:48 i read through devuan page and then i shooted the Q here Apr 23 15:14:40 i think snappiest system i had was old laptop using puppy linux from usb memory stick :) Apr 23 15:15:12 but the most i liked ubuntu around versions 4-6 Apr 23 15:15:22 and maybe 7 Apr 23 15:16:00 i guess that is also the point when my hw started to become slowend... Apr 23 15:16:29 Vajb: openbsd Apr 23 15:56:00 Vajb: arch put on it... Apr 23 16:04:56 the devuan installer failed for me at the tasksel step Apr 23 16:04:59 but it wasn't that big of a deal Apr 23 16:18:23 vajb: it's linux, DE is just a matter of installing things Apr 23 16:18:46 but you say you prefer debian-like, so go for devuan, it should be quite seamless Apr 23 16:19:09 and for lightweight, you can always just use xfce or fluxbox Apr 23 16:20:11 and disable all things that are not needed Apr 23 17:33:07 i vote for Wizzup Apr 23 19:14:16 hello there all of you folks Apr 23 19:14:29 is yappari up? Apr 23 19:14:36 nope Apr 23 19:14:50 :( Apr 23 19:14:52 and ceene is on the verge of giving up Apr 23 19:15:03 holy .... Apr 23 19:15:14 please write to whatsapp owners how you feel about their closed network Apr 23 19:15:35 maybe if they find out they are going to lose lots of users they will stop being bully-hidy Apr 23 19:15:43 but I am good with them and that OTR thing Apr 23 19:17:24 well maybe this time I will change my thingy mobile Apr 23 19:17:33 goodbye n900 Apr 23 19:17:50 donate it as a last move Apr 23 19:17:57 to some good n900 dev Apr 23 19:18:15 donate? Apr 23 19:18:24 yup Apr 23 19:18:28 detonate I would Apr 23 19:19:04 where is DocScrutinizer05 Apr 23 19:19:23 hey is it all a freky candid man? Apr 23 19:21:26 bad bad situation... if no whatsapp then no n900 Apr 23 19:22:14 how can I tell to my mom that smile without whatsapp? Apr 23 19:22:53 I payed 89 cents to whatsapp doc damn them Apr 23 19:23:38 :'(((((((( Apr 23 19:24:29 ok gimme ceene adress Apr 23 19:24:41 I will fix everythig Apr 23 19:29:17 * zamn900 slaps Infobot Apr 23 19:30:07 * zamn900 slaps infobot Apr 23 19:32:02 infobot give me the ceene address Apr 23 19:32:03 * infobot gives the ceene address to zamn900 Apr 23 19:32:20 naughty bot Apr 23 19:33:15 lol. whatsapp doesn't care about losing users Apr 23 19:33:42 no I will unverg ceene from giving up Apr 23 19:33:58 they have directly told millions of their users that this is the last year they can use whatsapp, unless they buy smartphones. Apr 23 19:34:28 so yes .. they don't really care at this point Apr 23 19:35:54 no way this is going bad like skype Apr 23 19:36:14 bad bad shituation Apr 23 19:37:23 infobot tell to DocScrutinizer05 about the shituation Apr 23 19:38:07 infobot why is the target invalid? Apr 23 19:38:07 why not? Apr 23 19:38:39 infobot, naughty, what have you DONE of your master?! Apr 23 19:39:25 ANSWER ME :'O Apr 23 19:40:27 this is bad Apr 23 19:40:32 oh my Apr 23 20:09:52 skype whatsapp meh Apr 23 20:10:13 * zamn900 sniffes Apr 23 20:20:07 shall we start mourning about doc murdered from his bot? Apr 23 20:21:59 infobot confess your crime Apr 23 20:22:43 too smart to talk huh? Apr 23 20:24:17 infobot have you killed anybody in these days? Apr 23 20:25:08 misterious Apr 23 20:27:47 infobot tell me something Apr 23 20:28:39 do you want a lawyer? Apr 23 20:44:48 zamn900: do you know how to code? Apr 23 20:44:58 slapping infobot or me won't help Apr 23 20:45:02 sorry no Apr 23 20:45:26 you can buy me patience and inspiration, then Apr 23 20:45:35 though that isn't bought with money Apr 23 20:45:41 I d to hear from you the problem Apr 23 20:46:03 maybe a buddist training course... Apr 23 20:46:34 lol Apr 23 20:46:44 i'm pretty near, but i'm facing a problem right now that i don't know how to solve, nor the cause Apr 23 20:46:46 what do you mean Apr 23 20:47:04 i've asked for help to a few people who code their own whatsapp clients Apr 23 20:47:08 spill all out Apr 23 20:47:10 but no luck until now Apr 23 20:47:34 till now :| Apr 23 20:47:56 i've written today to the yowsup guy Apr 23 20:48:06 maybe he can and wanto to help me Apr 23 20:48:20 maybe huh Apr 23 20:48:28 if not... i don't know if i'll be able to solve this Apr 23 20:49:01 but whats technically the problem Apr 23 20:50:06 do tell please Apr 23 20:50:16 i keep geting auth failed Apr 23 20:50:24 lulz Apr 23 20:50:37 i've replaced whatsapp original wa implementation for libwa Apr 23 20:51:00 libwa is a wa implementation by coderus, with encryption support Apr 23 20:51:06 but i can't get it to work Apr 23 20:51:07 and coderus Apr 23 20:51:11 has given up Apr 23 20:51:34 now I get the shituation a bit more Apr 23 20:51:53 i' sure the problem right now is a silly and stupid little thing Apr 23 20:51:58 a two lines patch Apr 23 20:52:05 but which two lines? Apr 23 20:52:14 ye I could imagine Apr 23 20:52:33 in between how many? Apr 23 20:53:23 rowly Apr 23 20:53:30 well anyway... Apr 23 20:53:54 then is just a moment Apr 23 20:54:35 never give up Apr 23 20:55:50 ~botsnack Apr 23 20:55:51 DocScrutinizer05: :) Apr 23 20:56:11 I know a buddy not buddist who knows a buddy not buddist again who knows a buddy... so on untill a good coder is at the bottom of lines Apr 23 20:56:34 DocScrutinizer05, it seems you are alive Apr 23 20:58:05 the coder I am supposed to know has won an olimpionic race in coding in mexico many years ago and now is chief in some cool google stuff thinghy Apr 23 20:58:56 infobot have you committed crimes? Apr 23 20:59:19 oh com'on naughy boy confess Apr 23 21:00:35 anyway I can understand quite well what's coding like Apr 23 21:01:52 oh and about OTR thing we could know about since months ago Apr 23 21:02:33 many months ago leaked new about this whatsapp otr thing Apr 23 21:03:25 I would have warned you mates... but I always suppose you are cooler than me Apr 23 21:04:22 i sure am not Apr 23 21:04:57 i'm the idiot who bought his first n900 just a couple of months before scorpius stopeed supporting yappari Apr 23 21:05:11 and since nobody had stepped up... it was me Apr 23 21:06:00 that's an honor all of yours and your teammates Apr 23 21:06:42 get some fresh eyes... Apr 23 21:07:02 have a nice day... Apr 23 21:07:22 you too Apr 23 21:07:24 do your duty with joy Apr 23 21:07:46 get some renereting fuck too Apr 23 21:07:54 regenerating Apr 23 21:08:07 do all your best Apr 23 21:08:33 just because you are the hero in this ok? Apr 23 21:10:11 that said Apr 23 21:10:38 infobot has to go in jail Apr 23 21:11:10 bots shall never rule our world Apr 23 21:11:58 Good Coding! (Y) Apr 23 22:04:07 cocaine is one hell of a drug Apr 23 22:19:27 :nod: Apr 23 23:11:54 kerio: huh? Apr 23 23:13:09 kerio: so you have a mission to destroy it *all*? ;-D Apr 23 23:13:35 ? Apr 23 23:13:40 * DocScrutinizer05 destroys a little bit of ethanol Apr 23 23:14:05 i don't even drink .-. Apr 23 23:14:18 * DocScrutinizer05 ponders to head out, there must be more of that which needs getting destroyed Apr 23 23:15:21 or wait... did it finally become obvious _what_ caused D. Trump? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Apr 24 02:59:58 2016