**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 01 02:59:59 2016
May 01 06:07:27 <freemangordon> NIN101: hi! is there a way to type '>' character in rescueos?
May 01 06:17:22 <DocScrutinizer05> hrhrhr
May 01 06:17:51 <DocScrutinizer05> did you try all key with all qualifier permutations yet?
May 01 06:18:05 <freemangordon> well, I made a shell script that does dmesg > dmesg.log
May 01 06:18:09 <freemangordon> :)
May 01 06:18:27 <DocScrutinizer05> so you found > ?
May 01 06:18:35 <freemangordon> and yes, I tried all the key combinatios I could imagine
May 01 06:18:45 <freemangordon> no, modified initrd image
May 01 06:19:14 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I use c&p worst case, however I guess that doesn't work
May 01 06:19:41 <freemangordon> DocScrutinizer05: c&p in console?!?
May 01 06:19:47 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if shell readline discipline takes escapes
May 01 06:19:55 <freemangordon> this is not remote but local console
May 01 06:20:03 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, sure
May 01 06:20:16 <freemangordon> hmm, there are < and > characters in the kmap file
May 01 06:20:33 <KotCzarny> fmg: you can always remap keys and you can use fn-key combos
May 01 06:20:33 <DocScrutinizer05> then they should be there
May 01 06:20:52 <DocScrutinizer05> otherwise try mapkey or what's the name
May 01 06:20:52 <KotCzarny> no long press tho
May 01 06:20:57 <freemangordon> yes, but how to use them, that is the question :)
May 01 06:21:02 <KotCzarny> fn-key
May 01 06:21:42 <freemangordon> alreay tried averithing I can imagine
May 01 06:21:46 <freemangordon> *everything
May 01 06:21:48 <freemangordon> anyway
May 01 06:22:40 <DocScrutinizer05> $(echo -e "\0xyz")  ?
May 01 06:23:05 <DocScrutinizer05> or sth like that
May 01 06:23:15 <KotCzarny> loadkmap ?
May 01 06:24:54 <KotCzarny> try fn-: ?
May 01 06:25:07 <KotCzarny> or fn-.
May 01 06:30:48 <KotCzarny> fmg, or just enable usb networking and telnet onto n900 ;)
May 01 06:34:27 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: orly? guess why I need dmesg log :P http://pastebin.com/Q5CUhAq0
May 01 06:34:52 <KotCzarny> :)
May 01 06:35:13 <KotCzarny> dmesg | dd of=dmesg.txt ?
May 01 06:50:40 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: the same for '|', I don't know how to enter it
May 01 06:51:03 <KotCzarny> did you try all fn-key combos?
May 01 06:51:09 <KotCzarny> also fn+shift+key ?
May 01 06:53:24 <freemangordon> yes
May 01 06:54:10 <KotCzarny> what char you have under fn-. ?
May 01 06:54:20 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: http://46.249.74.23/linux/camera-n900/
May 01 06:54:31 <freemangordon> sudo flasher-3.5 -k zImage -n ramfs -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0 mtdoops.mtddev=log log_buf_len=1M"
May 01 06:54:43 <KotCzarny> let me grab windows flasher
May 01 06:54:50 <KotCzarny> also, try shift-. ?
May 01 06:54:59 <freemangordon> windows on your desktop?
May 01 06:55:15 <KotCzarny> yeah, at this place i have windoze
May 01 06:55:19 <freemangordon> aah
May 01 06:55:34 <KotCzarny> unless i compile 0xFFFF for armbian
May 01 06:55:37 <KotCzarny> :)
May 01 06:55:45 <KotCzarny> which might be better option
May 01 06:55:53 <freemangordon> well, wondows flasher should not make any difference
May 01 06:55:57 <freemangordon> *windows
May 01 06:56:01 <KotCzarny> ~flasher
May 01 06:56:02 <infobot> somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
May 01 06:59:36 <KotCzarny> ok, that exe installed flasher somewhere, but where, hrm
May 01 07:00:21 <KotCzarny> C:\Program Files (x86)\maemo\flasher-3.5
May 01 07:00:22 <KotCzarny> right.
May 01 07:01:11 <KotCzarny> hmm, mtdoops. ?
May 01 07:03:55 <KotCzarny> doesnt seem to work
May 01 07:04:00 <KotCzarny> (windows flasher)
May 01 07:04:07 <KotCzarny> let me build 0xffff
May 01 07:04:16 <KotCzarny> ~0xffff
May 01 07:04:17 <infobot> [0xffff] https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996
May 01 07:05:26 <Maxdamantus> $'\x3e'
May 01 07:05:52 <Maxdamantus> in bash at least.
May 01 07:06:24 <Maxdamantus> ah, but that's not going to let you specify direction.
May 01 07:06:40 <KotCzarny> also, i guess he will have trouble with \
May 01 07:08:03 <Maxdamantus> The kernel I built today has a keymap built in that lets me write all printable characters accessible from a normal US-or-whatever keyboard layout.
May 01 07:08:26 <Maxdamantus> though it's based on Dvorak, so other people might find it inconvenient.
May 01 07:09:16 <freemangordon> guys, the point is that I was trying to capture upstream kernel oops to send it to the patch sender. Playing with bash etc was not my priority :)
May 01 07:10:19 <KotCzarny> hmm
May 01 07:10:35 <KotCzarny> could it be possible that flasher and 0xffff cant find the device because of low battery?
May 01 07:12:03 <freemangordon> deffinitely
May 01 07:12:25 <KotCzarny> well, will help you in 30 minutes then ;)
May 01 07:12:50 <freemangordon> ok :)
May 01 07:14:17 <KotCzarny> in related news, 0xffff builds/runs fine on armhf debian jessie on orange pi pc
May 01 07:49:20 <NIN101> freemangordon: well, i also try all possible combinations...  :-) much better is to connect via usb networking and to telnet into the n900. 
May 01 07:49:29 <KotCzarny> his usb is b0rken
May 01 07:49:44 <KotCzarny> because he is doing devving
May 01 07:49:44 <NIN101> :-(
May 01 07:53:12 <DocScrutinizer05> NIN101: hi!
May 01 07:53:13 <freemangordon> yep
May 01 07:53:16 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
May 01 07:53:25 <NIN101> DocScrutinizer05: hi
May 01 07:55:32 <NIN101> DocScrutinizer05: if you feel bored one day, could you update your resuceOS mirror? it's out of date. 
May 01 07:56:19 <DocScrutinizer05> I know it's am old version I love for some reason I forgot
May 01 07:56:41 <DocScrutinizer05> I found it worth keeping
May 01 07:56:46 <KotCzarny> hmm
May 01 07:57:05 <KotCzarny> fmg, the image and ramfs you've pointed to dont finish loading
May 01 07:57:10 <DocScrutinizer05> was there some kernel change or the like?
May 01 07:57:20 <KotCzarny> ie. boot, i see earlyboot then at some point it reboots
May 01 07:57:39 <NIN101> DocScrutinizer05: well i host 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 so you shouldn't lose anything. well anyway, my server shouldn't disappear soon anyway. 
May 01 07:58:05 <DocScrutinizer05> I'll augment my mirror to also provide the newer version :-)
May 01 07:58:44 <KotCzarny> nin101: maybe you can host those files on garage.maemo.org ?
May 01 08:03:50 <KotCzarny> fmg: on rescueos1.2 you can get > by pressing: fn-rightarrow
May 01 08:03:50 <NIN101> KotCzarny: I'll consider it
May 01 08:04:21 <KotCzarny> nin101: you can add a helpkb command that will show most of the kb shortcuts
May 01 08:05:26 <KotCzarny> fmg: also you can get | by pressing fn-z and % by pressing fn-c
May 01 08:11:15 <NIN101> KotCzarny: ok, i have added this to the todo file but whether I will find the motivation/time for a new version is a different matter entirely
May 01 08:12:00 <KotCzarny> nin101: having a todo is fine, it's just a matter of convenience, not some missing feature
May 01 08:16:39 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: for sure zImage and initrd boot, make sure you don't have charger conected
May 01 08:17:07 <KotCzarny> fmg, hmm, so i have to disconnect usb after 0xffff loads files?
May 01 08:17:14 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: also, with that zImage and initrd you have cameras working :)
May 01 08:17:28 <freemangordon> well, never tried 0xffff, so don;t know
May 01 08:17:44 <KotCzarny> insert flasher in place of 0xffff
May 01 08:18:01 <KotCzarny> i meant that usb cable was connected to my pc
May 01 08:18:03 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: what about the command line?
May 01 08:18:15 <KotCzarny> ./0xFFFF -m kernel:zImage -m initfs:ramfs -l -b 'rootdelay root=/dev/ram0'
May 01 08:18:49 <freemangordon> no idea then
May 01 08:19:12 <KotCzarny> i will try with usb disconnected just after loading files
May 01 08:19:53 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: enable mtdoops as well
May 01 08:19:55 <freemangordon> sudo flasher-3.5 -k zImage -n ramfs -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0 mtdoops.mtddev=log log_buf_len=1M"
May 01 08:20:07 <freemangordon> so if there is a bug, we can track it
May 01 08:20:12 <DocScrutinizer05> apropos mtdoops
May 01 08:20:22 <KotCzarny> ahm, forgot to copy bootparams
May 01 08:20:29 <DocScrutinizer05> console=mtd,log <-what does that mean?
May 01 08:20:34 <KotCzarny> btw. you have a dot after mtdoops ?
May 01 08:20:40 <freemangordon> yes
May 01 08:20:41 <DocScrutinizer05> (cmdline)
May 01 08:20:43 <KotCzarny> or its just copypaste error
May 01 08:21:02 <freemangordon> no, "mtdoops.mtddev=log" is the correct one
May 01 08:21:15 <KotCzarny> ahm, my irc client broke the line on dot ;)
May 01 08:21:33 <DocScrutinizer05> IroN900:~# cat /proc/cmdline 
May 01 08:21:35 <DocScrutinizer05> init=/sbin/preinit ubi.mtd=rootfs root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD,log console=tty0 snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6
May 01 08:21:48 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, ttyMTD
May 01 08:23:41 <KotCzarny> hmm, same story with usb disconnected
May 01 08:25:17 <KotCzarny> it powered itself off
May 01 08:26:38 <KotCzarny> are you sure you are using the same files as on the http you've pasted?
May 01 08:26:40 <DocScrutinizer05> console=tty0 seems clear
May 01 08:27:09 <DocScrutinizer05> I thought console=ttyMTD,log was about mtdoops, but... only wild guessing
May 01 08:28:35 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, rather should have asked aunt google: first hit http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2009-February/024616.html
May 01 08:41:59 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: the battery is charged, ain't?
May 01 08:42:11 <KotCzarny> not full but quite
May 01 08:42:17 <KotCzarny> charged for 30 minutes
May 01 08:42:24 <KotCzarny> and i can easily boot maemo
May 01 08:42:33 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: anything in /dev/mtd2?
May 01 08:42:37 <KotCzarny> and it reboots in the same exact point when trying your files
May 01 08:45:04 <freemangordon> Pali: hi! I was able to fix ir-rx51, so it works with pierogi :)
May 01 08:45:12 <Pali> wow!
May 01 08:45:16 <Pali> send patches for upstreaming
May 01 08:45:41 <freemangordon> my fizes are on top of Tony's, so I am waiting to see what will happen with them
May 01 08:45:46 <KotCzarny> fmg: mtd2 is all 0xff
May 01 08:45:47 <freemangordon> *fixes
May 01 08:46:01 <KotCzarny> at least when dumped with dd
May 01 08:46:09 <freemangordon> a simple cat works as well
May 01 08:46:24 <KotCzarny> same
May 01 08:46:54 <freemangordon> well, no idea then ,zImage and ramfs were tested by 2 kernel devs(besides me), worked for both of them :)
May 01 08:47:15 <KotCzarny> so now you have one exception in the statistics ;)
May 01 08:47:29 <freemangordon> no, as you're not a kernel dev :p
May 01 08:47:51 <KotCzarny> but my n900 is pretty stock, even without cssu :P
May 01 08:48:09 <freemangordon> thats irrelevant when you boot from the flasher
May 01 08:48:20 <freemangordon> oh, actually you don't use flasher
May 01 08:48:27 <freemangordon> try with it
May 01 08:48:56 <KotCzarny> k, gotta give windoze second chance
May 01 08:50:03 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, sp-oops-extract ?
May 01 08:50:23 <DocScrutinizer05> what the heck is /var/log/oopslogtail
May 01 08:50:33 <freemangordon> no idea
May 01 08:50:42 <freemangordon> I always just cat mtdoops
May 01 08:50:51 <KotCzarny> Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
May 01 08:51:16 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: which windoze is that?
May 01 08:51:36 <DocScrutinizer05> http://paste.opensuse.org/46339739
May 01 08:51:48 <KotCzarny> win7_64
May 01 08:51:55 <freemangordon> ~flashing
May 01 08:51:55 <infobot> methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline
May 01 08:52:17 <KotCzarny> i only have pc windoze and armhf sbc
May 01 08:52:31 <DocScrutinizer05> http://paste.opensuse.org/52322474
May 01 08:52:50 <Wizzup> freemangordon: do you still need a hack for > ?
May 01 08:52:53 <DocScrutinizer05> so much nicer
May 01 08:52:58 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: see "Issues with 64-bit Windows and Workarounds "
May 01 08:53:08 <freemangordon> Wizzup: sure
May 01 08:53:11 <KotCzarny> k
May 01 08:53:27 <KotCzarny> fmg: did you try fn-rightarrow ?
May 01 08:53:36 <freemangordon> no
May 01 08:53:52 <Wizzup> KotCzarny: depends on the keymapping that is loaded
May 01 08:54:10 <KotCzarny> yes, but he asked for rescueos
May 01 08:54:15 <Wizzup> freemangordon: so what I did was make a file that contains almost all the chars I want to type
May 01 08:54:16 <KotCzarny> and in rescueos fn-rightarrow is >
May 01 08:54:24 * freemangordon is going to try
May 01 08:54:38 <Wizzup> then just ls/tab complete with ctrl-i
May 01 08:54:51 <Wizzup> and delete the chars you do not want
May 01 08:54:54 <KotCzarny> wizzup: can you use '>' in file name?
May 01 08:54:58 <Wizzup> sure.
May 01 08:55:00 <KotCzarny> or '|' ?
May 01 08:55:06 <Wizzup> sure
May 01 08:55:08 <KotCzarny> nice
May 01 08:56:16 <KotCzarny> oh, i forgot i have 32bit slackware image for virtualbox
May 01 08:56:30 <Wizzup> freemangordon: so something like touch myusefullchars\>\|
May 01 08:56:38 <Wizzup> and then ls myuseful(ctrl+i)
May 01 08:56:47 <Wizzup> and then delete the chars you don't want
May 01 08:56:59 <freemangordon> Wizzup: hmm? I just wanted to pipe dmesg to a file
May 01 08:57:15 <Wizzup> freemangordon: yes, so you do:
May 01 08:57:29 <Wizzup> dmesg | myuseful(ctrl+i) (don't hit enter)
May 01 08:57:36 <Wizzup> and remove all the chars in that filename that are not >
May 01 08:57:46 <Wizzup> although I guess you could also make a script at that point
May 01 08:57:48 <freemangordon> ah, I see
May 01 08:57:54 <Wizzup> Ah. OK. I guess you cannot create a file now.
May 01 08:57:57 <KotCzarny> yeah, a script
May 01 08:57:57 <freemangordon> yep, that's what I did :)
May 01 08:58:21 <freemangordon> I did a script in initrd
May 01 08:58:49 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: yes, '>' is fn+right arrow
May 01 08:58:53 <freemangordon> thanks
May 01 08:59:10 <Wizzup> That is good to know
May 01 08:59:14 <KotCzarny> :)
May 01 08:59:26 <KotCzarny> and | is fn z
May 01 08:59:28 <KotCzarny> fn-z
May 01 08:59:45 <freemangordon> :)
May 01 09:01:39 <DocScrutinizer05> Uploaded:  2500,0 MB    :-D
May 01 09:01:56 <DocScrutinizer05> torrents are quite strange
May 01 09:02:38 <DocScrutinizer05> sometimes I got none of the peers downloading a single byte
May 01 09:03:47 <KotCzarny> fmg: booted it from 32bit linux, same story, powers off almost instantly after 'gpio something'
May 01 09:04:25 <DocScrutinizer05> and sometimes those are only 4 leechers despite allegedly there are 40 interested
May 01 09:05:19 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway for those who didn't notice yet: devuan BETA arrived  https://devuan.org
May 01 09:06:08 <DocScrutinizer05> get the DVD.iso, otherwise you'll need to use repo downloads which are clogged
May 01 09:06:41 <DocScrutinizer05> ~#devuan mirrors
May 01 09:06:42 <infobot> rumour has it, #devuan mirrors is https://devuan.voyanet.org/  http://devuan.lucylaika.ovh  http://neo900_devuanfiles.dev-1.org (eventually, until then:)  http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net
May 01 11:47:01 <ceene> i think i've just been banned again
May 01 11:47:11 <ceene> i think i don't have any numbers left now
May 01 11:47:12 <ceene> :(
May 01 11:56:23 <ceene> i need to stablish a plan of action before screwing someone else's number
May 01 11:56:32 <ceene> but i yet can't see it
May 01 11:56:37 <ceene> since i can't even try anything!
May 01 11:56:57 <ceene> i think WA has banned me just because i've tried to register the same number in different devices
May 01 11:57:09 <ceene> as if I couldn't change my sim from phone
May 01 12:00:02 <ceene> coderus is irresponsive
May 01 12:00:03 <ceene> :(
May 01 12:00:16 <ceene> and this is his library, he should know what to do
May 01 12:11:07 <L29Ah> damn, navit is *SLOW*
May 01 12:12:37 <ceene> and ugly
May 01 12:13:01 <ceene> i think i'm about to buy an android phone so i can have a hacker's phone and a normal people phone
May 01 12:27:43 <L29Ah> dpkg -L navit-graphics-qt-qpainter                                         
May 01 12:27:43 <L29Ah> /.
May 01 12:27:43 <L29Ah> /usr
May 01 12:27:43 <L29Ah> /usr/share
May 01 12:27:43 <L29Ah> /usr/share/doc
May 01 12:27:44 <L29Ah> /usr/share/doc/navit-graphics-qt-qpainter
May 01 12:27:44 <L29Ah> /usr/share/doc/navit-graphics-qt-qpainter/changelog.gz
May 01 12:27:45 <L29Ah> /usr/share/doc/navit-graphics-qt-qpainter/changelog.Debian.gz
May 01 12:27:50 <L29Ah> awesome
May 01 12:33:59 <KotCzarny> E: Couldn't find package hdparm
May 01 12:34:00 <KotCzarny> doh?
May 01 12:34:26 <KotCzarny> on a related news: [12502.693511] mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address 59b4
May 01 12:34:27 <KotCzarny> [12502.698974] mmcblk1: mmc0:59b4 00000 119 GiB
May 01 12:34:55 <KotCzarny> [12647.449279] EXT3-fs: mmcblk1p1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240).
May 01 12:34:58 <KotCzarny> the heck.
May 01 12:35:19 <KotCzarny> and i thought i've made the boot partition as ext3
May 01 12:37:11 <Maxdamantus> Try ext4.
May 01 12:37:18 <KotCzarny> is it available in stock?
May 01 12:37:29 <Maxdamantus> Not in stock afaik, but it's in power.
May 01 12:37:44 <KotCzarny> oh, wow, it is
May 01 12:37:50 <Maxdamantus> in stock?
May 01 12:37:53 <Maxdamantus> Hm. Okay.
May 01 12:37:59 <KotCzarny> nah, power kernel installed
May 01 12:38:05 <Maxdamantus> Ah, right.
May 01 12:38:05 <KotCzarny> just didnt autoload ext4 
May 01 12:38:17 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, I've been using ext4 as my main filesystem for a while.
May 01 12:38:47 * Maxdamantus created a btrfs filesystem on one of his N900s a few minutes ago.
May 01 12:38:48 <KotCzarny> mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /mnt/tt failed: Invalid argument
May 01 12:38:53 <KotCzarny> i think it's too old
May 01 12:38:54 <KotCzarny> o.o
May 01 12:39:02 <Maxdamantus> What does dmesg say?
May 01 12:39:06 <KotCzarny> nothing
May 01 12:39:19 <Maxdamantus> Try specifying -t ext4
May 01 12:39:23 <KotCzarny> did that
May 01 12:39:41 <Maxdamantus> Try stracing it and seeing where the EINVAL comes from.
May 01 12:40:01 <KotCzarny> stat64("/dev/mmcblk1p1", {st_mode=S_IFBLK|0660, st_rdev=makedev(179, 9), ...}) = 0
May 01 12:40:01 <KotCzarny> mount("/dev/mmcblk1p1", "/mnt/tt", "ext4", MS_SILENT, "") = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
May 01 12:40:23 <Maxdamantus> Have you actually loaded the ext4 module?
May 01 12:40:35 <KotCzarny> # lsmod|grep ext4
May 01 12:40:35 <KotCzarny> ext4                  187804  0
May 01 12:40:35 <KotCzarny> mbcache                 6272  1 ext4
May 01 12:40:35 <KotCzarny> jbd2                   51544  1 ext4
May 01 12:41:02 <KotCzarny> and if it was mounting as ext3 i would see info in dmesg
May 01 12:41:42 <KotCzarny> my bet is on some unsupported ext4 feature that is unavailable in n900's ext4
May 01 12:42:00 <Maxdamantus> Unlikely.
May 01 12:42:07 <KotCzarny> got any other idea?
May 01 12:42:13 <Maxdamantus> It wouldn't just fail silently like that.
May 01 12:42:20 <KotCzarny> it does.
May 01 12:42:35 <Maxdamantus> You would get a similar message to the one you got from the ext3 module.
May 01 12:43:05 <kerio> sanity check: does /mnt/tt exist? is /dev/mmcblk1p1 correctly formatted? are you running mount as root?
May 01 12:43:14 <KotCzarny> dumpe2fs finds proper info, so its not like its read error
May 01 12:43:18 <KotCzarny> kerio, yes, yes
May 01 12:43:21 <KotCzarny> and yes
May 01 12:43:25 <Maxdamantus> also, are you sure it didn't eventually get mounted by ext3?
May 01 12:43:44 <KotCzarny> maxd: it would shout if it would get passed to ext3
May 01 12:44:11 <Maxdamantus> Not if it was mounted successfully earlier.
May 01 12:44:19 <KotCzarny> hmm?
May 01 12:44:30 <KotCzarny> it's a card from my banana pi
May 01 12:44:41 <KotCzarny> i wanted to fix boot.scr
May 01 12:44:58 <KotCzarny> maybe i would just boot to fel mode instead
May 01 12:45:14 <KotCzarny> (assuming i will find usb keyboard somewhere here
May 01 12:46:12 <KotCzarny> so, anyone got any other ideas why it's not mounting? 
May 01 12:46:27 <Maxdamantus> cat /proc/mounts | grep mmcblk1p1
May 01 12:46:40 <kerio> already mounted somewhere else?
May 01 12:46:40 <kerio> yea
May 01 12:46:48 <KotCzarny> # cat /proc/mounts|grep mmcblk1
May 01 12:46:48 <KotCzarny> [root@Main-N900:/home/user/MyDocs]#
May 01 12:46:57 <KotCzarny> ie. nope
May 01 12:49:19 <Maxdamantus> Wonder why your mount is passing MS_SILENT.
May 01 12:49:23 <Maxdamantus> Mine doesn't seem to.
May 01 12:49:33 <KotCzarny> failbox vs gnu?
May 01 12:49:55 <Maxdamantus> `mount` usually comes from util-linux, not gnu.
May 01 12:50:27 <Maxdamantus> Not familiar with failbox .. if it's based on busybox, that has its own `mount` utility, so there's probably a distinction there.
May 01 12:50:49 <KotCzarny> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            7 Sep 10  2010 /bin/mount -> busybox
May 01 12:50:54 <Maxdamantus> Yeah, busybox passes MS_SILENT
May 01 12:52:01 <KotCzarny> how do i download only package with apt-get ?
May 01 12:52:45 <Maxdamantus> --download-only maybe.
May 01 12:53:21 <KotCzarny> hmm, no util-linux in extras-devel
May 01 12:55:21 <KotCzarny> lets see sdk repo
May 01 12:55:33 <KotCzarny> http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/u/util-linux/mount_2.13.1.1-1maemo3%2b0m5_armel.deb
May 01 12:55:35 <KotCzarny> hurrah.
May 01 12:57:02 <KotCzarny> [13969.992279] ext4: No journal on filesystem on mmcblk1p1
May 01 12:57:15 <KotCzarny> mount: wrong fs type
May 01 12:58:24 <Maxdamantus> try ext2.
May 01 12:58:42 <KotCzarny> [14077.615936] EXT2-fs: mmcblk1p1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240).
May 01 12:58:52 <Maxdamantus> Meh.
May 01 12:58:57 <kerio> ext4 doesn't *need* journal
May 01 12:58:58 <kerio> does it
May 01 12:59:04 <KotCzarny> doesnt
May 01 12:59:07 <Maxdamantus> It did at some point.
May 01 12:59:20 <Maxdamantus> actually, that might've been ext3, can't remember.
May 01 12:59:33 <KotCzarny> Looking at various post's this is often caused by ext4 needing 'large (2tb) block devices & file option' to be enabled in the kernel
May 01 12:59:44 <KotCzarny> figures.
May 01 12:59:45 <Maxdamantus> Google contributed changes that made journalling unnecessary for either ext3 or ext4.
May 01 12:59:51 <Maxdamantus> dunno when.
May 01 13:00:44 <KotCzarny> what was the option to mount readonly without journal replay?
May 01 13:01:35 <Maxdamantus> noload, apparently.
May 01 13:02:18 <KotCzarny> then i assume power kernel needs large block devices tunable
May 01 13:41:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ~messybox
May 01 13:41:30 <infobot> messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su, passwd, nice, ps, diff as used by mc...) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils
May 01 14:05:21 <Sicelo> ceene: you can still use my number. at this time i don't mind it getting banned
May 01 14:07:09 <ceene> Sicelo: i think i'm gonna accept your offer
May 01 14:07:30 <ceene> i still have to do a couple things so we don't get banned on registration itself
May 01 14:07:41 <ceene> i believe this time it's been due to mixing different user agents
May 01 14:14:35 <Sicelo> just ping me when ready :)
May 01 15:14:56 <ceene> this is all a piece of shit
May 01 15:17:28 <kerio> LUL
May 01 16:01:34 <ceene> wget with correct user agent is identified by WA as WA
May 01 16:01:46 <ceene> but requests made by QT
May 01 16:01:47 <ceene> aren't
May 01 16:02:05 <ceene> this is insane
May 01 16:02:16 <ceene> no wonder i keep getting banned
May 01 16:41:50 <KotCzarny> ceene: do htsniff, maybe qt is buggy and doesnt send the user agent you think you send
May 01 16:42:19 <ceene> it does
May 01 16:42:50 <ceene> it must be another header
May 01 16:42:58 <ceene> i'm testing via telnet directly
May 01 16:46:11 <ceene> something i've got wrong, i guess
May 01 17:00:41 <ceene> it's qt
May 01 17:00:44 <ceene> which is a piece of shift
May 01 17:00:48 <ceene> of shit :)
May 01 17:01:16 <KotCzarny> told you to rewrite it :P
May 01 17:01:18 <ceene> doesn't know how to build an http query
May 01 17:09:00 <Sicelo> sounds like progress :)
May 01 17:09:51 <ceene> come on
May 01 17:09:53 <ceene> this thing
May 01 17:09:59 <ceene> QUrl::toPercentEncoding(value))
May 01 17:10:03 <ceene> converts character +
May 01 17:10:09 <ceene> into %252B
May 01 17:10:14 <ceene> instead of %2B
May 01 17:10:18 <ceene> %25 is hex for %
May 01 17:10:28 <ceene> so it thinks that + = %+
May 01 17:10:32 <KotCzarny> isnt it nice ?
May 01 17:10:36 <ceene> i don't know what the fuck is this doing
May 01 17:10:45 <KotCzarny> go c?
May 01 17:11:01 <ceene> i won't rewrite all of this in C
May 01 17:11:09 <KotCzarny> chicken
May 01 17:11:18 <ceene> i've got better things to do with my time
May 01 17:14:23 <ceene> this
May 01 17:14:23 <ceene> what
May 01 17:20:13 <ceene> Note: This method does not encode spaces (ASCII 0x20) as plus (+) signs, like HTML forms do. If you need that kind of encoding, you must encode the value yourself and use QUrl::addEncodedQueryItem.
May 01 17:20:25 <ceene> no, it takes plus signs + and fuck them all over
May 01 17:23:50 <ceene> ok
May 01 17:23:51 <ceene> fixed
May 01 17:25:26 <ceene> -    m_url.addQueryItem(name,  QUrl::toPercentEncoding(value));
May 01 17:25:26 <ceene> +    m_url.addEncodedQueryItem(name.toLatin1(), value.replace("+", "%2B").replace("/", "%2F").replace("=", "%3D").toLatin1());
May 01 17:25:36 <ceene> i've had to manually http encode a base64 string
May 01 17:25:41 <ceene> because qurl doesn't know how to do it
May 01 17:26:01 <ceene> at least it's only base64 and there are only 3 chars that need conversion
May 01 17:26:51 <ceene> ok, now i can register numbers faking an android
May 01 17:26:58 <ceene> holy shit
May 01 17:27:05 <ceene> a full afternoon doing that
May 01 17:27:23 <ceene> and that's not even so useful in the end
May 01 17:27:32 <ceene> i still can't send nor receive encrypted messages
May 01 17:28:47 <ceene> i don't think i'll continue today
May 01 17:32:21 <ceene> i guess coderus' users didn't notice this because jolla uses QT5
May 01 17:32:26 <ceene> and I assume this shit is solved there
May 01 17:33:09 <ceene> how the hell this thing got to be release
May 01 17:33:24 <ceene> didn't any body test addQueryItem like, ever?
May 01 20:24:37 <L29Ah> lol somehow i bricked my n900
May 01 20:24:48 <KotCzarny> impossibru!
May 01 20:25:15 <L29Ah> uboot says kernel is booting, after a few seconds the screen blanks, and then after a second the white led lights and dims just like maemo was turned off gracefully
May 01 20:25:35 <KotCzarny> boot rescueos
May 01 20:26:19 <Sicelo> or just load kernel
May 01 20:26:22 <L29Ah> i don't have one
May 01 20:26:36 <L29Ah> what kernel should i load?
May 01 20:26:38 <Sicelo> zImage is in repos
May 01 20:26:40 <Sicelo> stock
May 01 20:26:49 <L29Ah> stock gives the same result
May 01 20:26:50 <KotCzarny> powerkernel maybe
May 01 20:26:53 <Sicelo> or the PK you were on
May 01 20:26:55 <L29Ah> power too
May 01 20:27:03 <KotCzarny> do a full flash?
May 01 20:27:10 <Sicelo> not necessary
May 01 20:27:11 <L29Ah> :/
May 01 20:27:15 <L29Ah> i want to debug this
May 01 20:27:22 <KotCzarny> battery dead?
May 01 20:27:23 <L29Ah> but dunno how to get at it
May 01 20:27:25 <Sicelo> you just have kernel problem
May 01 20:27:26 <KotCzarny> got another?
May 01 20:27:32 <L29Ah> lemme check
May 01 20:27:48 <Sicelo> or battery, yes. but nothing drastic :)
May 01 20:30:05 <L29Ah> oh, my funny 18650 setup soldering have failed
May 01 20:30:10 <L29Ah> ty
May 01 20:30:16 <KotCzarny> :)
May 01 20:30:34 <KotCzarny> i know, i know. n900 is practically unbrickable
May 02 02:47:58 <DocScrutinizer05> >>This "users are too stupid" argument is nonsense made up by big corporate software to justify continuous revenue streams based on features that get in our way. To see a smoking gun, go to This interview with Red Hat CTO, Brian Stevens, search the first occurrence of the word complexity, and read that paragraph and the one below it. That's the explanation for the explosive complexification of some realms of Linux in the past two decades. 
May 02 02:47:59 <DocScrutinizer05> Those two paragraphs also provide a possible explanation when you ask why systemd came uncomfortably close to conquering the world.<< http://troubleshooters.com/linux/avoid_complexity.htm - I always said this was a root rationale for RH to pay Poettering for systemd
May 02 02:51:49 <DocScrutinizer05> >>In 2001, when I joined Red Hat and built the enterprise engineering team, we weren't being as aggressive as we could have been about driving innovation in open source. We were mostly packaging existing open source software. We wanted to change tha<< yeahyeah, we already got you
May 02 02:53:08 <DocScrutinizer05> business models, my ass!
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