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May 28 03:04:40 <DocScrutinizer05> ~flashing
May 28 03:04:40 <infobot> from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
May 28 03:04:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lazyflashing
May 28 03:04:50 <infobot> [lazyflashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
May 28 07:32:29 <rhn> hi! I just noticed that the default repositories (SSU) for my N900 are dead. are there any replacements
May 28 07:33:30 <sixwheeledbeast> ~mirrors
May 28 07:33:30 <infobot> it has been said that mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143  or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new
May 28 07:34:40 <rhn> sixwheeledbeast: thanks
May 28 07:34:41 <sixwheeledbeast> probably, I have not bothered there will only be updates from CSSU going forward
May 28 07:35:01 <rhn> is CSSU a complete replacement?
May 28 07:35:34 <sixwheeledbeast> I imagine the links above are old, no but if you have a working device on PR1.3 you should need them?
May 28 07:36:02 <rhn> sixwheeledbeast: I want to give it out to repair and reflash after I get it back
May 28 07:36:11 <rhn> the USB port finally gave up on me
May 28 07:36:16 <sixwheeledbeast> CSSU can't provide a full replacement unfortunately 
May 28 07:36:36 <rhn> time to check out the mirrors
May 28 07:37:54 <sixwheeledbeast> Well yes in that case to will probably need to use it. I would check on TMO. I am sure there will be somewhere but no idea which factoid it's hiding behind.
May 28 07:38:47 <rhn> found them here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository
May 28 07:40:09 <rhn> hm, I'll try to make my own mirror once I figure out apt-mirror
May 28 07:40:33 <rhn> thanks a lot sixwheeledbeast
May 28 07:41:12 <sixwheeledbeast> ~muarf
May 28 07:41:56 <sixwheeledbeast> that's probably it, np anytime
May 28 07:47:52 <KotCzarny> ~maemo-repos
May 28 07:47:52 <infobot> i heard maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
May 28 07:48:05 <KotCzarny> yeah
May 28 07:53:07 <rhn> ~combined
May 28 07:53:07 <infobot> i guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
May 28 07:53:17 <KotCzarny> ~flashing
May 28 07:53:17 <infobot> i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
May 28 07:53:24 <KotCzarny> use the script
May 28 07:57:12 <rhn> ~flashing-cmdline
May 28 07:57:12 <infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, flashing-cmdline is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/
May 28 07:57:33 <sixwheeledbeast> ~lazy-flashing
May 28 07:57:40 <KotCzarny> grab maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz unpack and run ./flash-it-all.sh
May 28 07:57:44 <KotCzarny> its all you need
May 28 07:57:57 <sixwheeledbeast> ~lazyflashing
May 28 07:57:57 <infobot> well, lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
May 28 07:57:58 <rhn> I don't like running scripts as root :P
May 28 07:58:15 <KotCzarny> then read the script before
May 28 07:58:26 <rhn> that's what I'm doing
May 28 07:58:28 <KotCzarny> and allow user the usb interface it needs :P
May 28 07:59:07 <sixwheeledbeast> ~seen totalizator
May 28 07:59:08 <infobot> totalizator is currently on #maemo, last said: 'see the Resolution'.
May 28 09:23:26 <sixwheeledbeast> ~mafw
May 28 09:23:26 <infobot> i heard mafw is http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Multimedia_Components/Media_Application_Framework_%28MAFW%29
May 28 10:12:28 <zamn900> ?
May 28 10:39:04 <sixwheeledbeast> ~logs
May 28 10:39:05 <infobot> All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/
May 28 11:42:40 <sixwheeledbeast> Resource Temporarily Unavailable, hmm I wonder if they have killed the 1.2.1 scrobbler protocol
May 28 12:14:44 <sixwheeledbeast> ~pkg
May 28 12:14:44 <infobot> pkg is probably http://maemo.org/packages/
May 28 12:35:10 <Sicelo> re: yappari - have just sent a message to my sisters persuading them to try out Telegram :p
May 28 12:35:23 <zamn900> finally
May 28 12:35:36 <zamn900> you got the meaning of my "?"
May 28 12:35:57 <zamn900> telepathy works fine too
May 28 12:35:59 <Sicelo> i've never used it before, but will use the Pidgin plugin
May 28 12:36:29 <Sicelo> hope for WhatsApp to be restored however. thanks for your work thus far ceene :)
May 28 12:36:35 <zamn900> I don't mean the software "telepathy" but our own telepathy skill actually
May 28 12:36:50 <Sicelo> zamn900: ? means nothing
May 28 12:36:57 <zamn900> ye ceene go on
May 28 12:37:08 <zamn900> shall we cheer you?
May 28 12:38:57 <zamn900> btw maybe untill yappari gets restored we will use telepathy skill as further way
May 28 12:39:44 <zamn900> pigeons too as game of thrones does... with its ravens...
May 28 12:40:05 <zamn900> ? means a lot actually
May 28 12:59:20 <sixwheeledbeast> meh
May 28 13:00:14 <Vajb> collective congiousness would be best im protocol
May 28 13:05:20 <KotCzarny> swb: as for me lastfm went down the commercial drain
May 28 13:05:30 <KotCzarny> ignoring community at large
May 28 13:07:49 <sixwheeledbeast> lastfm is not what it was, it's nice to keep track of all the music i listen to.
May 28 13:08:13 <KotCzarny> swb: want me to add statistics to oscp? ;)
May 28 13:11:17 <Vajb> LMD: 3331. Probably that's the final value. Only 31mah increase from last calibration.
May 28 13:11:38 <sixwheeledbeast> But I am using OMP
May 28 13:13:06 <Vajb> can go about 35hours without charging
May 28 13:13:28 <KotCzarny> vajb: that is dual setup?
May 28 13:13:33 <Vajb> sixwheeledbeast: i like OMP too. It integrates very well to system.
May 28 13:14:03 <Vajb> KotCzarny: yes, dual Polarcell
May 28 13:14:21 <KotCzarny> not bad, 1660 per bat
May 28 13:14:40 <Vajb> yes, im pleased as well.
May 28 13:14:45 <KotCzarny> i wonder about longevity of such setup
May 28 13:15:27 <Vajb> after mugen, which claimed to be 2400mah turned out to be 2048mah just after one year of use
May 28 13:15:55 <Vajb> i'll keep ppl in here updated of that ;)
May 28 13:17:24 <sixwheeledbeast> KotCzarny: just looked at oscp, your control file could do with reformatting it's unreadable in HAM. I would look at the sources but it's non-free
May 28 13:17:38 <Vajb> so far i have just one strange problem. I have external usb battery which is powered by 18650 cell and it refuses to charge my dual setup. Tho it could be it has become faulty.
May 28 13:22:49 <KotCzarny> swb: its in nonfree because of few reasons
May 28 13:23:22 <KotCzarny> one being dependency build heavy (patched libs) and another being unable to pass through autobuilder
May 28 13:24:07 <Vajb> i recall u saying it'll be free when enough users or karma etc :p
May 28 13:24:27 <KotCzarny> yes, im still planning to solve that 
May 28 13:25:04 <Vajb> :)
May 28 13:25:22 <KotCzarny> maybe i'll just prepare oscp-build-libs package or something
May 28 13:25:36 <KotCzarny> that way i wouldnt have to chug few hundred megs at autobuilder
May 28 13:25:45 <KotCzarny> every time i change the sources of oscp
May 28 13:26:28 <Wizzup> Vajb: got a picture of how you set that up? the dual polarcell?
May 28 13:28:01 <Vajb> Wizzup: no, but i copied idea from tmo. It is basically two batteries taped together and + and - pins connected by 1,2mm thick wire.
May 28 13:28:13 <Wizzup> ha, ok.
May 28 13:28:21 <Wizzup> so you use the mugen casing?
May 28 13:28:32 <Vajb> yes
May 28 13:28:46 <Vajb> i had original mugen battery for a year
May 28 13:29:23 <Vajb> but it turned out to be tad disappointing. Meaning i could get through day without charging it at some point
May 28 13:29:33 <Vajb> i couldn't*
May 28 13:32:20 <Wizzup> really?
May 28 13:32:26 <Wizzup> my polarcell batteries last a few days usually
May 28 13:32:33 <Wizzup> I don't watch videos on my n900 or anything, though.
May 28 13:35:44 <Vajb> me neither. I just listen to music or audio books while working and sometimes at home too. Also some web browsing, few sms since no-one seems to use jabber and yappari isn't working.
May 28 13:36:06 <Vajb> occasionally few calls
May 28 13:40:56 <Vajb> well maybe panucci isn't too power savingly optimated
May 28 13:51:38 <KotCzarny> vajb: i think panucci uses software decoding 
May 28 13:52:03 <KotCzarny> which means cpu awake longer
May 28 14:00:11 <Vajb> could be. I've noticed it uses about 50% cpu at times, but didn't bother to look at the frequency
May 28 14:00:30 <KotCzarny> a bit high
May 28 14:00:46 <KotCzarny> it should use ~30% at 250mhz
May 28 14:00:59 <KotCzarny> (and evilaudio should eat another 30%)
May 28 14:21:15 <freemangordon> Pali: I wonder, if we can use the current master to apply SGX etc patches on top and then rebase when 4.7-rc1 comes out
May 28 14:22:19 <freemangordon> as most (if not all) of the pending n900 patches are already there, besides irtx driver fixes
May 28 14:43:34 <sixwheeledbeast> KotCzarny: did you say oscp supported lastfm?
May 28 15:43:44 <KotCzarny> swb: yeah, i was using api2.0, but when spotify bought lastfm they broke api keys for everyone
May 28 15:43:57 <KotCzarny> and only legacy api was working somehow 
May 28 15:53:27 <sixwheeledbeast> I found it in the oscp thread, only scrobbles while you have inet? I need caching ideally. 
May 28 15:53:48 <KotCzarny> if it was working still i could add caching
May 28 15:54:07 <KotCzarny> but for now i cant get it to work, as they broke api/api keys completely
May 28 15:55:37 <sixwheeledbeast> api2 should work 1.2.1 was deprecated years ago. A fix for mafw-lastfm would be nice then all player linked to mafw would scrobble
May 28 15:56:12 <KotCzarny> swb: as i said, they broke api keys, because even done according to their docs it returns error on getting token
May 28 15:56:56 <KotCzarny> and it wasnt only me, because their (now dysfunctional forums) was full of similar reports
May 28 15:57:17 <KotCzarny> happened around august '15 i think (or '14)
May 28 15:58:30 <sixwheeledbeast> that's if it's broken. I have tried several N900's and two last.fm accounts this morning and still consumes CPU indefinitely. So you think it could be last.fm? I have had no trouble for a whole year until this week.
May 28 15:58:55 <KotCzarny> swb: for cpu 100% the usual fix was cleaning the caches
May 28 16:00:41 <sixwheeledbeast> I believe i have tried that, I had that issue before. .osso/mafw-lastfm.queue
May 28 16:00:57 <KotCzarny> then they might've broke legacy api now
May 28 16:00:59 <KotCzarny> :)
May 28 16:01:19 <KotCzarny> *broken
May 28 16:01:23 <sixwheeledbeast> well other mediaplayers work so something is weird
May 28 16:01:52 <KotCzarny> are they associated with spotify in any way?
May 28 16:02:53 <sixwheeledbeast> well spotify/last.fm and Rhythmbox
May 28 16:03:29 <KotCzarny> spotify bought lastfm, so its not as it would stop working
May 28 16:04:16 <KotCzarny> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre.fm
May 28 16:04:18 <KotCzarny> oh, wow
May 28 16:04:40 <KotCzarny> maybe i should work on this cutie
May 28 16:05:09 <KotCzarny> because maybe people just want stats
May 28 16:05:51 <KotCzarny> The main reasoning behind the foundation of Libre.fm was to provide a service similar to last.fm that respects the privacy of its users and their information. As such, Libre.fm does not log users' IP addresses, allows users to decide if their listening habits are to be made public or not, and does not claim ownership on users' data.[2]
May 28 16:06:33 <KotCzarny> they also say they are compatible with scrobbler api, so it could be as easy as acquiring api keys and changing scrobbling domain
May 28 16:06:53 <KotCzarny> (added to TODO)
May 28 16:07:17 <sixwheeledbeast> libre.fm has been around for years, Vagalume was compatible with both
May 28 16:07:49 <KotCzarny> do you need scrobbling only or also use lastfm stations?
May 28 16:08:21 <sixwheeledbeast> I don't see any information on Spotify/lastfm buyout. I know CBS bought last.fm a good while ago
May 28 16:08:59 <sixwheeledbeast> scrobbling only, stations died ages ago
May 28 16:12:06 <KotCzarny> http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm%2520Web%2520Services
May 28 16:12:15 <Sicelo> i've never used last.fm/scrobbling .. just looked it up on google/wikipedia - why would i/someone use it?
May 28 16:12:23 <KotCzarny> hehee 'active discussions' last mesages date august 2015
May 28 16:12:52 <KotCzarny> sicelo: just curiosity, stats, also comparing music with friends, finding new SIMILAR artists/tunes
May 28 16:13:02 <KotCzarny> it was about finding new music at the start
May 28 16:13:08 <KotCzarny> then they went commercial
May 28 16:13:42 <Sicelo> hmm, okay :)
May 28 16:14:24 <KotCzarny> meh, their api pages are still broken
May 28 16:20:36 <sixwheeledbeast> Lastfm was great in it's day. The it's amazing the amount of great music I found through lastfm over the years.
May 28 18:29:40 <totalizator> sixwheeledbeast: ++
May 28 18:30:30 <sixwheeledbeast> totalizator: hey, just wondering if your having trouble with mafw-lastfm?
May 28 18:30:44 <KotCzarny> 'you're'
May 28 18:32:00 <totalizator> one of the greates features at lastfm - search for neighbours that have 9/10 same "most listened bands", look at the tenth and: mind blown
May 28 18:32:46 <totalizator> sixwheeledbeast: I haven't used it in a while
May 28 18:33:12 <totalizator> what is the issue?
May 28 18:34:14 <sixwheeledbeast> totalizator: I have tried several N900's and two last.fm accounts this morning and still consumes CPU indefinitely. 
May 28 18:34:40 <sixwheeledbeast> I remember having this in the past and clearing the cache but tried all that
May 28 18:34:40 <KotCzarny> tcpdump shows anything?
May 28 18:36:22 <sixwheeledbeast> strace shows (Resource Temporarily Unavailable), had a break from diagnosing the issue at the moment. I'll have another look in a bit
May 28 18:36:49 <totalizator> oh, that thing, let me grep some logs :3
May 28 18:40:34 <sixwheeledbeast> I checked the logs i can only find the cache at .osso/
May 28 18:48:04 <totalizator> yup, removing .osso/mafw-lastfm.queue shout used to fix it
May 28 18:57:15 <sixwheeledbeast> totalizator: done that, didn't work
May 28 18:58:23 <totalizator> but you have restarted the scrobller afterwads, right? ;)
May 28 20:29:03 <DocScrutinizer05> sixwheeledbeast: see ~jrrepos instead ~mirrors
May 28 20:29:19 <sixwheeledbeast> :nod:
May 28 20:29:43 <sixwheeledbeast> totalizator: restarted in what way?
May 28 20:30:37 <KotCzarny> killall ?
May 28 20:32:43 <sixwheeledbeast> well yeah then. I cleared the cache and removed the package, shutdown, then installed again
May 28 20:32:56 <KotCzarny> no need to reinstall i guess
May 28 20:42:22 <DocScrutinizer05> does *anybody* know of scope pictures or protocol timing specs of ECI?
May 28 20:42:40 <DocScrutinizer05> aka Multibutton-headset protocol
May 28 20:44:43 <DocScrutinizer05> <DocScrutinizer05> Nov 05 21:24:37 <DocScrutinizer05> somebody welknown here in this channel did some 'scope propes and snapshots and published them
May 28 20:44:45 <DocScrutinizer05>  <DocScrutinizer05> Nov 05 21:25:14 <DocScrutinizer05> alas I forgot who, and I'm too hungry and in a hurry to find out who's been the hero or where have been those pictures
May 28 20:45:08 <DocScrutinizer05> http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/maemo/maemo.20121106.txt
May 28 20:47:02 <DocScrutinizer05> I know of all the kernel drivers by *@nokia which all seem to use an external MCU and thus don't disclose a single detail of the actual protocol
May 28 20:48:42 <DocScrutinizer05> there's also http://svn.jacekowski.org/host_mode/trunk/drivers/misc/nokia-av.c  but I don't think it has anything more relevant than e.g. https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/450811/ does
May 28 21:10:49 <totalizator> sixwheeledbeast: and you still have excessive cpu usage by mafw-lastfm?
May 28 21:11:48 <sixwheeledbeast> totalizator: upon reinstalling and then playing one track yes
May 28 21:13:55 <totalizator> well, this is silly but maybe try another track, maybe the tags of the file results in a corrupted syntax for the scrobbler
May 28 21:14:55 <totalizator> I mean - remove .osso/mafw-lastfm.queue, restart the scrobbler and play a track that has been scrobbled correctly in the past
May 28 21:15:31 <totalizator> something is broken with this scrobbler anyways
May 28 21:33:17 <sixwheeledbeast> Yep tried all of that earlier
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