**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 09 02:59:58 2016 Jun 09 05:27:25 ShadowJK: thx for the hint. That's what i have done, but thought to ask if it's normal. Jun 09 06:07:08 Yooo. Anyone know if I could swap the n900 battery cell with a different cell? Keeping the original protection PCB from the BL-5J? Jun 09 06:07:29 yes Jun 09 06:07:38 its just li-ion Jun 09 06:09:41 Awesome' Because I'd just wired up a 2610 3.7v up to the +/- leaving out the BME pin and the phone keeps turning itself off. So I'm guessing keeping the whole PCB and soldering that to the new cell instead of using the new batteries board will be the way to go. Just wasn't sure if it was coded to only 1350mAh or something (I know nothing about protection ciruits :P) Jun 09 06:09:54 some people wired 18650 Jun 09 06:10:04 you can find them on tmo Jun 09 06:10:22 Forgot about that thread, I'll check it out now' Jun 09 06:11:12 Thanks :) Jun 09 06:33:58 azkay: you've probably found this already but: http://imgur.com/a/B7uZ3 Jun 09 06:44:37 Yep Jun 09 06:44:52 Wonder if my soldering connection is just really dodgy Jun 09 06:44:57 or if the pcb lowers the voltage Jun 09 06:45:18 at the cell its 3.95v and at output terminals its 3.3v Jun 09 06:45:53 quite a drop Jun 09 06:46:41 ill resolder it Jun 09 06:53:32 not changing. Probably broke something, lol. Boots up and says battery is near full. I'll use it a bit and see how accurate it is Jun 09 06:53:54 doesnt bmi return voltage too? Jun 09 06:54:27 s/bmi/bme/ Jun 09 06:54:27 KotCzarny meant: doesnt bme return voltage too? Jun 09 07:00:25 ill check when I finish putting the battery in Jun 09 07:10:08 K, I'm dumb. How do I do that? Jun 09 07:10:31 you know the bq27200.sh ? Jun 09 07:10:34 ~bq Jun 09 07:10:38 ~ping Jun 09 07:10:39 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss Jun 09 07:10:43 ~bq27200 Jun 09 07:10:43 i guess bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2, or ~bq27 Jun 09 07:10:50 ~bq27 Jun 09 07:10:50 bq27 is probably http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ bq27*, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ Jun 09 07:33:32 Thanks, I'll check that out :) Jun 09 07:41:31 0x09 - 0x08: 3860 VOLT Reported Voltage High - Low Byte mV Jun 09 07:41:38 3.86v, seems about right Jun 09 07:47:08 Now to figure out how to get the battery meter thing to show the real capacity and not the old batteries 1277mAh Jun 09 07:48:41 just cycle it 3-4 times, no other way Jun 09 07:48:50 ~listkeys battery Jun 09 07:48:51 Factoid search of 'battery' by key (12 of 17): #maemo battery ;; heh, no bottom view. can't tell if the battery #DEL# ;; zaurus battery ;; batteryfaq ;; battery pack ;; true, but the lack of extra battery #DEL# ;; as battery acid #DEL# ;; battery life ;; ipaq battery ;; battery damage ;; flips ibot's battery disconnect switch ;; battery. Jun 09 07:49:03 ~listkeys calibration Jun 09 07:49:04 Factoid search of 'calibration' by key (1): bq27k-calibration. Jun 09 07:49:12 ~bq27k-calibration Jun 09 07:49:12 bq27k-calibration is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1247595#post1247595 Jun 09 07:51:55 My hero :) I'll report back when that's done Jun 09 08:13:24 Question : how different is GTK 2.14.7 on Maemo from 2.24.30 on gnome website? Jun 09 08:17:16 "a lot" iirc Jun 09 08:17:54 API changed quite a bit over time, especially at some major release Jun 09 08:18:01 (2.18? don't remember well) Jun 09 11:09:27 ~jr-tools Jun 09 11:09:28 i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Jun 09 17:43:53 hey guys, is there a MeeGo channel also? I'm looking for pieces of quality software for a piece of N9. someone pls, let me know if I should even waste time on this.. thank you! Jun 09 17:47:59 afaik the n9 community is even deader than the n900 one Jun 09 17:50:21 n900 iz not ded Jun 09 17:52:49 kerio: have a look at #harmattan as written in this channels topic ;) Jun 09 17:52:58 KotCzarny: pls Jun 09 17:53:02 xelo: pls Jun 09 17:53:19 n900 > any other phone Jun 09 17:53:59 as a software engineer: what exactly is "quality software" Jun 09 17:54:13 xelo: stable and useful Jun 09 17:56:45 and what are pieces of quality software? Jun 09 17:56:58 oscp, of course! ;) Jun 09 17:57:28 as for maemo, depends on user Jun 09 17:59:27 afk... Jun 09 20:12:14 xelo: something to help me not to throw the whole device away Jun 09 20:41:55 try openmode and make a hacking device from it Jun 09 20:44:40 but then, I dunno (and can't check anymore) if even openmode could still get enabled, since iirc the device tries to install several packages when you enable the err "developer mode" or whatever it's called. And I guess with Nokia servers missing, not even that will work anymore Jun 09 20:47:56 the packages are mirrored :) you can still go developer mode Jun 09 21:15:05 oooh good. thought you can't install them when the URL isn't correct Jun 09 21:16:39 but probably the URL isn't that security critical and could get forged if needed. The package signatures should still be intact even on mirrors Jun 09 21:22:04 any one heard of emoji? Jun 09 21:24:57 I have been living under a rock apparently Jun 09 21:30:51 u mean those moving smileys? Jun 09 21:31:54 Well yeah that's what i am told Jun 09 21:35:38 ah, the stuff u could learn in facebook ;) Jun 09 21:51:17 no, emojis don't move Jun 09 21:53:33 Well I found out that N900 cannot understand them and silently drops the whole SMS Jun 09 21:54:38 I never heard of them until diagnosing missing messages. Jun 09 21:54:40 sixwheeledbeast: actually i've received them as mms. Jun 09 21:56:06 those are not emojis Jun 09 21:56:16 emojis are unicode characters Jun 09 21:57:52 yep that's what I have just read. I have also just come across a patch for the same issue on Harmattan. https://github.com/harmattan/emojifix Jun 09 22:00:35 huh? non-standard code SMS get silently dropped on N900? Jun 09 22:01:29 It would appear this patched version of libsms-utils works on N900. Jun 09 22:02:53 * DocScrutinizer05 seems in a need to dig up his old Nokia 2110 Jun 09 22:04:10 while It wasn't ingerently capable to send non-ascii SMS, you could copy/insert SMS snippets that had those non-ascii chars (which immediately halves the number of available chars ber SMS) Jun 09 22:04:17 per* Jun 09 22:05:13 Hello. I have tried improve my emmc whith fsck, but it filed. I in backupmenu export mydoc(27gb) to linuxpc (ubuntu). Jun 09 22:05:21 plus it displayed virtually all, even the most bizarre, fontsets/codepages Jun 09 22:05:51 Now I also have trubles with backupmenu. Jun 09 22:07:33 x-system: you probably will need to share (and also inquire and follow) way better / more detailed info, when we shall help you Jun 09 22:08:40 okay Jun 09 22:10:07 e.g. a session log of your fsck would be the minimum for us to check what happened. Rather you should probably have done that fsck "interactively" in here, so we could have helped with it Jun 09 22:11:04 Ok, not problem. 1 sec Jun 09 22:11:32 anyway now when you can't even get into BootMenu menu anymore, your only options are rescueOS and/or flashing Jun 09 22:12:10 I can get into BootMenu. Jun 09 22:12:51 Now I rebooted my n9000 Jun 09 22:12:54 *n900 Jun 09 22:14:11 I have no care to use emoji, but silently dropping SMS because it contains one is annoying. Jun 09 22:14:27 I don't yet buy that Jun 09 22:14:52 but... might be possible Jun 09 22:16:21 it sucks the handler stack is mostly closed Jun 09 22:16:24 I have connect n900 with ubuntu. sudo file -s /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdb2: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=0725c463-783b-40a1-89f0-9e3b849077fb (needs journal recovery) (large files) Jun 09 22:17:17 ugh what? journal? Jun 09 22:17:27 no journal on VFAT Jun 09 22:17:49 MyDocs is VFAT not ext3 Jun 09 22:17:59 unless somebody messes with it Jun 09 22:20:39 DocScrutinizer05, sory, I have problem with irc web chat) Can you send me last mesage? Jun 09 22:20:58 MyDocs is VFAT not ext3 Jun 09 22:21:24 d Jun 09 22:22:11 I dunno ubuntu but I honestly hope /dev/sdb is not one of your local harddrives Jun 09 22:22:21 d Jun 09 22:23:09 sdb1 - mkdosfs - mydocs, sdb3: swap , sdb2 - ext3 Jun 09 22:23:29 mydocs is not ext3) Jun 09 22:24:20 Now I shuld umount sdb2 and run fsck? Jun 09 22:24:30 why? Jun 09 22:24:45 what why? Jun 09 22:24:52 didn't you say your problem was with MyDocs? Jun 09 22:27:11 I have problem whith backup. I can't do backup from backupmenu, because: Error: cannot mount eMMC. Try using FSCK mode and see if that fixed it. Jun 09 22:27:48 is that the *only* problem you have? Jun 09 22:28:41 also, *WHICH* backup you're trying in BM when you get that error? Jun 09 22:28:43 I dont understand you) Jun 09 22:29:39 I dont know why bm write me error with emmc Jun 09 22:30:23 I tryid improve it with fsck, but it fail Jun 09 22:30:51 you don't provide the needed info Jun 09 22:31:02 I don't know what to answer Jun 09 22:31:21 hm.. What information you want? Jun 09 22:33:19 I can now run fsck and copy logs in chat Jun 09 22:34:57 ~pastebin Jun 09 22:34:57 A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. Jun 09 22:35:57 but when your only problem is a error BM throws, then it's probably wiser to not do any fsck and first find out what's wrong with BM Jun 09 22:37:25 BM can do backups of NAND root file system and of the 2GB parition at /home resp /opt Jun 09 22:37:47 for which of both options you get that error? Jun 09 22:38:07 and can you boot into maemo and use your device normally? Jun 09 22:39:36 since NAND is ubifs, I assume you get the error when trying to backup /home, since that is ext3 Jun 09 22:39:56 and only ext3 can get fsck'ed, ubifs can't Jun 09 22:41:16 I do backup RootFS and OptFS. I can boot into maemo and use devace normally. Jun 09 22:41:51 then we need to check why BM says it can't mount OptFS aka /home Jun 09 22:42:40 first: check if /home is OK in running maemo system: check (and pastebin) the output of "mount" Jun 09 22:43:26 http://paste.opensuse.org/43090433 Jun 09 22:44:20 particularly the line >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3 (noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)<< Jun 09 22:47:45 Ok Jun 09 22:49:36 it's pretty unusual that your device works flawlessly when BM can't mount the OptFS Jun 09 23:18:39 Sory. I have some lag with my pc))) http://pastebin.com/HjYMgu17 Jun 09 23:18:47 it log mount Jun 09 23:18:52 on n900 Jun 09 23:25:16 Ok, I go to sleep =) Jun 09 23:32:21 hmm, the mounts look ok Jun 09 23:34:46 though NO! what the heck is >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /usr/lib/python2.5 type ext3< I'm not too surprised when this causes all sorts of weird bugs Jun 09 23:36:40 shouldn't all those python mounts be type=bind? Jun 09 23:37:37 see >>/opt/pymaemo/usr/lib/python2.5 on /usr/lib/python2.5 type bind (bind)<< Jun 09 23:42:43 also compare my >>/home/opt on /opt type none (bind)<< vs x-system's >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /opt type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)<< Jun 09 23:45:29 http://paste.opensuse.org/14504857 Jun 09 23:51:04 meh! what he pasted is cat /proc/mounts not the output of mount(8) Jun 09 23:56:50 not exactly but almost. And not even `busybox mount` does that **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 10 02:59:59 2016