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Jun 10 05:23:26 <azkay> Wonder of Mugen would let go of their n900 files
Jun 10 05:48:38 <azkay> I knew I had thought of a non-permanent/potentially destructive way to access these: http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/techfreak21/n900-usb-overview2.jpg
Jun 10 05:49:35 <azkay> Has anyone thought of adding a pad of some sort with contacts in it? Using pressure to make contact rather than soldering to the phone. Sort of like how the old PSP analog controller was attached (little rubber brick with copper in it)
Jun 10 05:52:27 <KotCzarny> azkay: can you use normal img sharing hosting? shitadbucket isnt nice
Jun 10 05:52:43 <KotCzarny> imgur.com
Jun 10 07:53:19 <x-system> hellow,  DocScrutinizer05. I saw your messages. See it. http://paste.opensuse.org/57747175
Jun 10 09:37:39 <fishbulb> is there a way to check for malicious software
Jun 10 09:37:57 <KotCzarny> yes, dont install suspicious stuff
Jun 10 09:38:09 <fishbulb> this install has been going for YEARS
Jun 10 09:38:44 <fishbulb> there could easily be suspicious stuff on there I totally forgot about
Jun 10 09:39:14 <KotCzarny> reflash and make a txt file with notes what and when you did install
Jun 10 09:39:52 <KotCzarny> as for checking for holes, try netstat -a, tcpdump, ps axuww and top
Jun 10 09:40:00 <KotCzarny> that's just for basic stuff
Jun 10 09:41:58 <fishbulb> how do I know which ones shouldn't be connected
Jun 10 09:42:23 <KotCzarny> google or someone with experience
Jun 10 09:42:47 <fishbulb> experience with maemo is why I came here
Jun 10 09:42:55 <KotCzarny> experience with linux in general
Jun 10 09:43:11 <fishbulb> I don't have experience in invading people's privacy
Jun 10 09:43:37 <fishbulb> I do my shit and that side of it is largely ignored
Jun 10 10:02:37 <fishbulb> any quick pointers?
Jun 10 10:03:17 <fishbulb> if I go into ##security it's a bunch of kids sand wannabe "hackers" saying shit they overheard, blah blah blah
Jun 10 10:04:01 <fishbulb> and likely to start fucking with my machine
Jun 10 17:24:35 <DocScrutinizer05> Pali: Re: Nokia N900: musb is in wrong state after boot       From: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti * com>         To: joerg Reisenweber <joerg@openmoko.org>, Bin Liu <b-liu@ti  - com>
Jun 10 17:24:39 <DocScrutinizer05> :-)
Jun 10 17:24:55 <Pali> I read
Jun 10 17:24:57 <DocScrutinizer05> see LKML since your gmail constantly rejects my mails
Jun 10 17:25:12 <Pali> what is reason for rejection?
Jun 10 17:25:25 <Pali> can you post SMTP output?
Jun 10 17:25:28 <DocScrutinizer05> TI confirming dedication to FOSS is a good thing
Jun 10 17:25:42 <DocScrutinizer05> err, sorry, only bounce transcript
Jun 10 17:25:54 <Pali> and what is in bounce?
Jun 10 17:31:00 <DocScrutinizer05> PM
Jun 10 17:57:28 <x-system> hellow,  DocScrutinizer05. I saw your messages. See it. http://paste.opensuse.org/57747175
Jun 10 17:58:33 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm yes, that looks OK
Jun 10 18:00:18 <DocScrutinizer05> so can you do a "ls -lR /home" without any errors?
Jun 10 18:42:15 <x-system> DocScrutinizer05 ls -lR /home" without any errors )
Jun 10 18:42:44 <DocScrutinizer05> then please uninstall and reinstall BM
Jun 10 18:42:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ~bm
Jun 10 18:42:47 <infobot> methinks backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install
Jun 10 18:45:37 <DocScrutinizer05> also which maemo version you're running? make sure you updated to most recent CSSU when you are using CSSU (recommended)
Jun 10 18:45:55 <DocScrutinizer05> ~cssu
Jun 10 18:45:55 <infobot> cssu is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)
Jun 10 18:46:39 <x-system> hm..  I did before it (reinstall BM). Seven times. Different versions.  Where I see version on my n900&
Jun 10 18:46:42 <x-system> *?
Jun 10 18:47:02 <DocScrutinizer05> in system settings menu
Jun 10 18:47:19 <DocScrutinizer05> about product, and if applicable "about CSSU"
Jun 10 18:47:53 <DocScrutinizer05> and please reinstall BM using the one click install as of above
Jun 10 18:49:11 <DocScrutinizer05> I.E uninstall BM (apt-get purge ...), then browse to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ in N900 webbrowser and click on BM.install
Jun 10 18:51:44 <x-system> In app About Maemo 5 Community SSU. version - 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11
Jun 10 18:54:18 <x-system> Kernel - Linux Nokia 2.6.28.10-power53. Okay, I will try reinstal BM in try again later
Jun 10 19:04:36 <DocScrutinizer05> your system is supposedly up to date, good
Jun 10 19:31:29 <x-system> hm. apt-get purge backupmenu?
Jun 10 19:52:09 <x-system> I reinstall BM. Error: cannot mount the eMMC. Try using FSCK mode and .....
Jun 10 19:55:51 <DocScrutinizer05> I really wonder what you do
Jun 10 19:56:20 <DocScrutinizer05> are you shutting down / rebooting your system by removing battery?
Jun 10 20:02:51 <x-system> I remove (purge) bm, next install from browser, next reboot to BM and try backup.
Jun 10 20:37:00 <x-system> so
Jun 10 21:14:46 <DocScrutinizer05> x-system_: does this look familiar?
Jun 10 21:14:48 <DocScrutinizer05>                                                 mount -t $backup_eMMC_part_type $backup_eMMC_part_loc /tmp/mnt/mydocs
Jun 10 21:14:50 <DocScrutinizer05>                                                 if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
Jun 10 21:14:51 <DocScrutinizer05>                                                         $T2S -s 2 -H left -y $y -T 0xF800 -t "  Error: cannot mount the eMMC."; y=$((y+20))
Jun 10 21:14:53 <DocScrutinizer05>                                                         $T2S -s 2 -H left -y $y -T 0xF800 -t "  Try using FSCK mode and see if that fixes it."; y=$((y+20))
Jun 10 21:15:41 <DocScrutinizer05> robbiethe1st!!!! I tildya those error messages are puzzling
Jun 10 21:16:12 <DocScrutinizer05> x-system_: when BM says "Error: cannot mount the eMMC." it actually refers to MyDocs
Jun 10 21:17:32 <DocScrutinizer05> x-system_: is your device connected to PC USB when you start it into BM?
Jun 10 21:19:21 <DocScrutinizer05> x-system_: try backup to uSD card, backup to MyDocs doesn't really make any sense at all anyway
Jun 10 21:21:11 <DocScrutinizer05> if you really want to backup to MyDocs, make sure a "df -h ~user/MyDocs" shows reasonable values, and a "ls -R ~user/MyDocs" lists something reasonable
Jun 10 21:22:14 <DocScrutinizer05> a ">~user/MyDocs/xxx" must not throw any error (remove with "rm ~user/MyDocs/xxx" after test)
Jun 10 21:26:15 <DocScrutinizer05> please provide output of "mount|grep '/home/user/MyDocs' ", paste the one line in here
Jun 10 21:26:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, and you should do all this as root
Jun 10 21:27:31 <DocScrutinizer05> well, not mandatory (yet)
Jun 10 21:39:42 <DocScrutinizer05> however for next step you need root:  http://paste.opensuse.org/96864108
Jun 10 21:39:57 <DocScrutinizer05> this takes a few minutes (like 10 to 60)
Jun 10 21:50:39 <DocScrutinizer05> you may use "fsck.vfat -vn /dev/mmcblk0p1" instead (without V parameter) which should be faster
Jun 10 21:54:41 <DocScrutinizer05> x-system_: your output to df -h and mount should look like mine here: http://paste.opensuse.org/79805139
Jun 11 01:00:54 <azkay> Sorry it wasn't my image. I'll reupload it to imgur
Jun 11 01:05:34 <azkay> http://i.imgur.com/CvIcFum.jpg
Jun 11 01:06:12 <azkay> I feel like rather than soldering, a removable plastic/rubber contact block could sit in the shaped hole instead, help in by the battery or something else
Jun 11 01:53:00 <DocScrutinizer05> azkay_: what is this?
Jun 11 01:56:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ((Has anyone thought of adding a pad of some sort with contacts in it? Using pressure to make contact rather than soldering to the phone. Sort of like how the old PSP analog controller was attached (little rubber brick with copper in it))) yes, I thought about that (though for other than USB purposes), but it's basically almost impossible to build such a thing in a reliable way
Jun 11 01:58:04 <DocScrutinizer05> azkay_: I don't understand why anybody would do those connections sketched in pink wires in that picture
Jun 11 02:00:21 <DocScrutinizer05> the picture is based on a pic from ~usbfix that suggests way better (though minimally incorrect regarding GND to ID pin) wiring for fixing USB when the pads came off
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