**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 11 02:59:58 2016 Jun 11 10:27:39 is your device connected to PC USB when you start it into BM? - No. Try backup to uSD card - I have not microsd(. See output: http://paste.opensuse.org/87829543 Jun 11 11:57:04 I didn't mean that wiring specifically, but accessing any of those points without soldering on the device. Jun 11 14:23:48 x-system: a /dev/mmcblk0p1 27.0G 398.0M 26.6G 1% /home/user/MyDocs makes me think you can forget about cramming a backup on your eMMC Jun 11 14:24:45 398.0M free storage on MyDocs is really to low, dunno why BM throws that cryptic error Jun 11 14:52:41 oops sorry, that's 389M *used* Jun 11 14:52:51 so nevermind Jun 11 15:43:23 x-system: please check "mount --help" -->BusyBox v1.10.2 Jun 11 16:08:14 BusyBox v1.23.1 (Debian 1.23.1power2+thumb0) Jun 11 16:08:23 \o/ Jun 11 16:42:28 tracker acting up for me :-/ Jun 11 16:43:22 the device is basically idle since 24h, I just started xchat and noticed that CPU load is extremely high. http://paste.opensuse.org/53719784 Jun 11 16:43:56 1689 user 20 0 17508 3300 2196 S 23.5 1.3 393:29.39 hildon-thumbnai Jun 11 16:45:11 I already killed imageviewer and tracker before this top snapshot Jun 11 17:35:51 DocScrutinizer05: if u have tracker config, check if u have some non-existing folders to be checked. Solved my problem with it... Jun 11 17:36:25 i mean solved when i deleted that one non-existing folder check... Jun 11 17:42:04 Vajb: many thanks Jun 11 18:07:38 http://paste.opensuse.org/31646147 I _hope_ it will eventually finish Jun 11 18:08:27 I also wonder how to tell that shitty thing _not_ to scran .jpg in my music folder for the gallery Jun 11 18:09:49 png embedded in every single song ftw Jun 11 18:10:28 does flac need its own container? Jun 11 18:10:40 other than using matroska, that's cheating Jun 11 18:39:45 huh? Jun 11 18:39:59 flac is a file format resp a compression Jun 11 18:40:08 no container involved Jun 11 18:41:41 well, alac uses mpeg4 containers Jun 11 18:42:19 blglblgl.flac Jun 11 18:42:50 ~50% samller than .wav Jun 11 18:43:26 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC Jun 11 18:44:58 ok >> The FLAC project consists of: The stream formats A simple container format for the stream, also called FLAC (or Native FLAC)<< Jun 11 18:45:26 so .flac _are_ 'containers' Jun 11 18:57:29 reading about Rice, I get hungry Jun 11 19:59:39 mount --help >> BusyBox v1.15.3 for Nokia N900 multi-call binary Jun 11 20:00:47 wow, there is a messybox update? Jun 11 20:01:08 and... *does it work*? Jun 11 20:04:29 x-system: I'm almost out of ideas how to tackle your issue. Your MyDocs seems to work, you updated BM to the recent supposedly working version... Your mount command looks like it's supposed to work also (though I have no clue what's BusyBox v1.15.3 , resp where from you got that) Jun 11 20:04:59 and BM is nasty to debug since it has no proper STDOUT/STDERR handles Jun 11 20:05:23 nor any mounted filesystem where you could store any logs persistently Jun 11 20:06:12 prolyl not even syslog would help, it gets started only later on aiui Jun 11 20:06:20 prolly Jun 11 20:07:32 honestly, when you're not shy to do reconfig of your system, I'd suggest a complete reflash Jun 11 20:07:52 after doing a copy to PC of your MyDocs content Jun 11 20:08:39 you even could save most installed apps and all conversations etc with maemo backup Jun 11 20:10:21 please make sure you got the most recent powerkernel (I recall from your uname -a that you're using powerkernel, otherwise please ignore this advice) Jun 11 20:11:09 if pali was around, we could ask him if there was a known flaw with mounting vfat volumes in a pervious release of KP Jun 11 20:22:44 Hahah) I reflash N900 3 mounth ago) And again not work) Okay. Now powerkernal - 2.6.28.10-power53. If my experiments break system on n900 - I will reflash it) Also I will try reinstall busybox) And soru for my english) Thank You) Jun 11 21:02:44 In app manager BusyBox 1.15.3 J-j Jun 11 21:02:52 *O_o Jun 11 21:25:04 Fast Application manager and standart app manager - have different lists? Jun 11 21:42:04 I really not understand about version maemo5. Now I have Tmaemo11 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 (11.04.2015) from https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog , but what is it - 5.23 12.01.2014 - 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1+thumb0 from https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb??? Jun 11 21:44:59 I have rep maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb. It desable. If I enable it I have new update for maemo5. I'm afraid updating it because dont whant break my system) Jun 11 21:46:02 so, https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog and https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb two different branches? Jun 11 21:48:14 And what better? Jun 11 23:36:37 damn he quit ... Jun 11 23:57:33 merlin1991: I have installed ur compiled bluez packages. more up to date than the ones from the repos. Is there any known issue with it. Why they are not on the repos? Jun 11 23:59:06 well, bluez in maemo is rather unstable, luf was working on updates, but apart form him none has a concrete idea what works or not ... Jun 11 23:59:35 panu connection does not work on mainstream Jun 11 23:59:38 so starying with what we have is "save" but you'll miss out on stuff Jun 12 00:00:29 but not sure if PAN works on 4.99. I am going to test it today and report back here Jun 12 00:01:10 ffs fucking booze Jun 12 00:01:11 I tried bluez 4.99 with the kernel from cssu-testing and It did not work Jun 12 00:01:37 maybe throw your ideas into the cssu - devel thread Jun 12 00:01:48 where is it? Jun 12 00:02:00 talk.maemo.org ;) Jun 12 00:02:04 one sec Jun 12 00:02:15 4.99 is working for me for panu untill now Jun 12 00:02:43 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292 Jun 12 00:03:39 mmm, not sure if I have an account. If 4 updating repo packages it is necessary then sure I have an account Jun 12 00:04:08 also -thumb stuff is done by freemangordon, so perster him ;) Jun 12 00:04:59 nah, account is just for maemo.org so talk / garage (repo) and other stuff Jun 12 00:05:04 join the family Jun 12 00:05:12 be assimiliated ;l) Jun 12 00:05:14 but bluez 4.99 was ur compilation, right? Jun 12 00:05:21 ;) Jun 12 00:05:24 rh Jun 12 00:05:26 urts Jun 12 00:05:28 rtt Jun 12 00:05:30 ffs Jun 12 00:05:36 fucking keybard Jun 12 00:05:42 yeah, so yep Jun 12 00:05:43 moin Jun 12 00:05:52 partially my fault Jun 12 00:07:09 but if stuff doesn't work plz trhow it on the talkk.maemo.org thread, or bugs.maemo.org and I'll try to punch people ;) Jun 12 00:08:04 merlin1991: thanks. I have compiled w3m for n900. but it needs manual intervention cos a problem with a library. I don know if anyone else is interested on that package. It is a command line web browser Jun 12 00:08:55 but sure I am not going to be able to upload it on the usual way Jun 12 00:09:03 sunshavi: if your library is just a straight update with no sideeffect I'm happt so pushthat as a part of cssu Jun 12 00:09:22 also drunk ... Jun 12 00:09:27 aka spelling Jun 12 00:09:45 but w3m Jun 12 00:09:51 which version? Jun 12 00:09:53 iirc Jun 12 00:09:56 well the issue is with qemu. it compiles fine on a machine even on device but not on qemu Jun 12 00:10:01 the latest Jun 12 00:10:21 the newer ones need more recent libnx11 and other stuf Jun 12 00:10:22 fd Jun 12 00:10:26 err f Jun 12 00:10:45 the same I have on x86 is the one i am compiled 4 arm Jun 12 00:10:58 s/i am/i have/ Jun 12 00:11:22 yeah, srcrachtbnox qemu is rather derp Jun 12 00:12:46 perhaps i can give You the link. Try it if You feel it is fine upload it when you wish Jun 12 00:13:07 sunshavi: email me the full problem to christian.ratzenhofer@cdnm.at and I well see what I can do Jun 12 00:14:15 merlin1991: ok Jun 12 00:14:36 but give me some time ;) Jun 12 00:15:27 sure, Just it is the first time we are at the same time on the room. The question about bluez has a long time on my todo list Jun 12 00:16:09 what's your timezone? Jun 12 00:16:47 gmt -500 Jun 12 00:17:02 err country_ Jun 12 00:17:04 ? Jun 12 00:17:23 P E R U Jun 12 00:17:34 I see why :ED Jun 12 00:18:05 most of cssu is in cet Jun 12 00:18:11 so yeah ... Jun 12 00:19:04 merlin1991: time to go out. have a nice time there Jun 12 00:19:45 sunshavi: you have my mail, send me your stuff and I guess that will work better than irc Jun 12 00:19:59 also have a nice weekend ;) Jun 12 00:21:30 also pms on talk.mamo.org are always welcome Jun 12 00:35:04 crap, I hope I didn't just destroy my 2nd N900 :| Jun 12 00:36:20 errrrr what did you do? Jun 12 00:36:21 err why? / cp;d f;asj ? Jun 12 00:36:44 *cold flash* Jun 12 00:37:07 coldflash is no problem Jun 12 00:37:29 you cannot brick a N900 Jun 12 00:37:59 you can make your life a tad more cumbersome when you nuke CAL aka mtd1 Jun 12 00:40:59 DocScrutinizer05: inserted https://www.amazon.com/Gaoye-Magnetic-Charging-Lightning-Motorola/dp/B01861UOU0 Jun 12 00:41:15 I suspect I will not be able to remove it without breaking the USB port Jun 12 00:41:24 and it doesn't appear to actually work for data :/ Jun 12 01:09:46 ouch **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 12 02:59:58 2016