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Jun 19 03:02:35 <DocScrutinizer05> HMMMMM   Jun 18 21:31:04 IroN900 tracker-indexer[1699]: GLIB MESSAGE Tracker - Loaded prepared queries file:'/usr/share/tracker/sqlite-stored-procs.sql' size:12113 bytes
Jun 19 04:21:41 <DocScrutinizer05> hmmph
Jun 19 04:22:25 <DocScrutinizer05> Jun 19 05:55:12 IroN900 clockd: Can't guess anything, so do nothing
Jun 19 04:22:27 <DocScrutinizer05> Jun 19 05:55:12 IroN900 clockd: TZ guessing failed. ":Etc/GMT-2" TZ will be used
Jun 19 04:22:28 <DocScrutinizer05> Jun 19 05:55:13 IroN900 cellular: csd[799]: ISI_SMS .088012> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0
Jun 19 04:22:30 <DocScrutinizer05> Jun 19 05:55:13 IroN900 clockd: Date now is 2016-06-19 05:55:13 (DST OFF), TZ=/Etc/GMT-2, offset -7200/-7200, timezone=-7200, tzname=GMT-2/GMT-2
Jun 19 04:22:31 <DocScrutinizer05> Jun 19 05:55:13 IroN900 cellular: csd[799]: com.nokia.phone.net: get_network_time_info returned: y:16 m:6 d:19 h:3 m:55 s:14 tz:8 dl:1
Jun 19 04:25:53 <DocScrutinizer05> Jun 19 05:55:14 IroN900 clockd: Date now is 2016-06-19 05:55:14 (DST ON), TZ=/Europe/Berlin, offset -7200/-3600, timezone=-3600, tzname=CET/CEST
Jun 19 06:58:55 <KotCzarny> the worst tht could happen is reverse
Jun 19 06:59:00 <KotCzarny> um, wrong chan
Jun 19 08:42:42 <Vajb> speaking of driving a car, huh?
Jun 19 08:43:13 <KotCzarny> nope, wiki edits
Jun 19 09:10:45 <KotCzarny> bonbons: MoeIcenowy was looking for you
Jun 19 09:10:52 <KotCzarny> eh, wrong chan again
Jun 19 09:12:38 <Wizzup_> KotCzarny: rock on :P 
Jun 19 09:19:14 <KotCzarny> wizzup: joys of choosing single irc window mode
Jun 19 09:19:39 <KotCzarny> but fir stalking multiple channels its nice
Jun 19 09:19:43 <KotCzarny> *for
Jun 19 10:46:41 <KotCzarny> pastebin whole error
Jun 19 10:46:46 <KotCzarny> drat
Jun 19 10:46:49 <KotCzarny> wrong chan again
Jun 19 12:35:16 <Wizzup_> KotCzarny: nice going :D 
Jun 19 17:13:12 <Sicelo> and, turns out i wanted to reinvent the wheel .. wanted to build 'confclerk' when it is already packaged :p
Jun 19 17:13:15 <Sicelo> dumb me
Jun 19 17:15:24 <Sicelo> http://www.toastfreeware.priv.at/confclerk/attachment/wiki/WikiStart/Screenshot-20130128-180409.png
Jun 19 17:17:21 <KotCzarny> happens
Jun 19 17:18:12 <Sicelo> was actually designed for Maemo tablets :)
Jun 19 17:18:43 <KotCzarny> so, best experience
Jun 19 17:41:17 <Sicelo> has ssl problem :-/
Jun 19 17:54:01 <ceene> Sicelo: if it's qt based, try updating qt from cssu-testing if it's up there already
Jun 19 17:54:59 <Sicelo> it is qt .. i'm already on latest (i actually even have -devel enabled 24/7 )
Jun 19 17:55:24 <KotCzarny> enabling cssu-devel is BAD idea
Jun 19 17:55:29 <ceene> can you check which version is it?
Jun 19 17:55:34 <KotCzarny> much worse than extras-devel :P
Jun 19 17:56:04 <Sicelo> KotCzarny: i know :p
Jun 19 17:56:20 <Sicelo> ceene: which one exactly, haha
Jun 19 17:56:37 <ceene> dpkg -l qt4-x11
Jun 19 17:56:46 <ceene> or... dpkg -l|grep qt4
Jun 19 17:56:52 <ceene> as qt4-x11 is not a single package
Jun 19 17:57:04 <ceene> you care about qt4-network or something like that
Jun 19 17:57:55 <Sicelo> *** 4.7.0~git20101111-0maemo1 0
Jun 19 17:58:06 <Sicelo>  that's libqt4-experimental-network
Jun 19 17:58:17 <ceene> that's pretty old, isn't it?
Jun 19 17:58:32 <Sicelo> apt-cache policy says that's latest? :-/
Jun 19 17:58:42 <ceene> i think you should have at least 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu11
Jun 19 17:58:46 <ceene> i don't have my n900 here right now
Jun 19 17:59:34 <ceene> you should have libqt4-network_4.7.4~git20110505-cssu11_armel.deb
Jun 19 17:59:40 <ceene> at the very least
Jun 19 17:59:40 <Sicelo> libqt4-network                                     1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu11+thumb0  
Jun 19 17:59:46 <Sicelo> i have this too
Jun 19 17:59:56 <ceene> that's the one
Jun 19 17:59:56 <ceene> yep
Jun 19 18:00:01 <Sicelo> but confclerk pulled the experimental :-/
Jun 19 18:00:14 <Sicelo> apt-cache depends confclerk
Jun 19 18:00:25 <Sicelo> so maybe it needs to be rebuilt .. 
Jun 19 18:00:40 <Sicelo> maybe at the time, 'experimental' was the latest?
Jun 19 18:00:54 <ceene> maybe
Jun 19 18:01:12 <Sicelo> ceene: i have SB .. will that suffice to build this? (/me doesn't wish to take up a headache, lol)
Jun 19 18:01:47 <ceene> yes, it should
Jun 19 18:01:59 <ceene> you can just apt-get source confclerk on sb
Jun 19 18:02:12 <ceene> modify its debian/control
Jun 19 18:02:15 <ceene> to change qt dependencies
Jun 19 18:02:19 <Sicelo> cool .. i guess just changing the dependencies control doc will help
Jun 19 18:02:20 <Sicelo> yes
Jun 19 18:02:21 <Sicelo> :)
Jun 19 18:02:39 <Sicelo> going to try shortly .. me shakes the dust off SB
Jun 19 18:03:12 <ceene> if it still doesn't work
Jun 19 18:03:16 <Sicelo> ceene: i've never understood, in SB, what needs fakeroot and what does not .. maybe you can help a noob there?
Jun 19 18:03:26 <ceene> i don't type fakeroot ever and it always work
Jun 19 18:03:46 <Sicelo> :)
Jun 19 18:03:55 <ceene> i don't think i've had to type it ever
Jun 19 18:04:05 <Sicelo> you was saying: if it still doesn't work ..?
Jun 19 18:04:09 <ceene> maybe at first i did, but in some instance i forgot about it and saw that it wasn't needed
Jun 19 18:04:12 <ceene> oh, yes
Jun 19 18:04:23 <ceene> if it doesn't work, i pushed a patch to tell qt to forget about deprecated protocols
Jun 19 18:04:34 <ceene> https://github.com/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/commits/master
Jun 19 18:04:41 <Sicelo> yes, i remember about that (re: yappari) .. thanks
Jun 19 18:04:44 <ceene> so, you can either compile qt
Jun 19 18:04:57 <ceene> or ask me later to upload somewhere the package i compiled for myself while testing
Jun 19 18:05:01 <ceene> libqt4-network_4.7.4~git20110505+cssu11-RemoveSSL3_armel.deb
Jun 19 18:05:33 <ceene> although i don't know if that package in particular will depend on the whole libqt4*-RemoveSSL3 lot
Jun 19 18:05:37 * Sicelo will choose the lazy way, haha
Jun 19 18:05:42 <ceene> sometimes i just replaced libQtNetwork.so
Jun 19 18:05:59 <Sicelo> not going to be recompiling qt at all here
Jun 19 18:06:16 <ceene> it takes quite a while in an i7
Jun 19 18:06:24 <ceene> an hour or two maybe
Jun 19 18:06:33 <ceene> i don't know if there was a way to compile only a module in particular
Jun 19 18:06:48 <ceene> i just built the whole thing, as my time is more important than that of the computer
Jun 19 18:06:53 <Sicelo> that's bad .. i have G41 motherboard, with oldie Core 2 Duo processor .. may take a week haha
Jun 19 18:07:08 <ceene> well, a couple hours are acceptable, a week is not :)
Jun 19 18:07:17 <ceene> i experienced that when i tried gentoo a decade ago
Jun 19 18:15:46 * Sicelo needs to grab a bite first .. this isn't so easy :)
Jun 19 18:26:09 <ceene> there
Jun 19 18:26:11 <ceene> i compiled it
Jun 19 18:26:12 <ceene> :P
Jun 19 18:27:58 <Sicelo> hah . youre _are_ ceene after all
Jun 19 18:27:59 <Sicelo> :p
Jun 19 18:28:05 <ceene> lol
Jun 19 18:28:10 <ceene> if you want it i can upload it somewhere
Jun 19 18:28:18 <ceene> or i can send you the session log
Jun 19 18:28:33 <ceene> ah, i should have recorded with timing so you could replay it
Jun 19 18:28:34 <Sicelo> what did you compile btw? :)
Jun 19 18:28:41 <ceene> confclerk
Jun 19 18:28:50 <ceene> with no strange dependencies
Jun 19 18:28:53 <Sicelo> please upload :p
Jun 19 18:29:58 <ceene> http://maemo.linenoise.info/random/
Jun 19 18:30:08 <Sicelo> thanks a mil
Jun 19 18:30:19 <ceene> :)
Jun 19 18:30:47 <Sicelo> weird .. your dsc has Format 3.0 (quilt) .. that gives me problems in SB :-/
Jun 19 18:30:52 <ceene> it's my penance for being a n900 traitor
Jun 19 18:30:59 <Sicelo> had to change that to Format 1.0
Jun 19 18:31:09 <ceene> uhm
Jun 19 18:31:12 <ceene> i never had to do that
Jun 19 18:31:20 <ceene> however, my sb is updated to cssu as well
Jun 19 18:31:24 <ceene> and dist-upgraded
Jun 19 18:31:25 <ceene> and all that
Jun 19 18:33:11 <Sicelo> guess i' have to start the whole thing from scratch someday
Jun 19 18:34:57 <ceenedroid> Hi
Jun 19 18:35:01 <ceene> hi, ceenedroid 
Jun 19 18:35:02 <Sicelo>  /kickban ceenedroid 
Jun 19 18:35:06 <ceene> :D
Jun 19 18:35:10 <ceene> ceenedroid: ping?
Jun 19 18:35:14 <ceene> bah
Jun 19 18:35:21 <ceene> it doesn't notify me or anything
Jun 19 18:35:37 <ceene> i'm going to convert my n900 in just an oscp-remote thingy + irc
Jun 19 18:39:18 <Sicelo> i'm still having the same problem with confclerk though .. strange - works fine on pc (debian)
Jun 19 18:39:59 <ceene> and which problem is it?
Jun 19 18:40:02 <ceene> it may be the qt thing
Jun 19 18:41:41 <ceene> http://maemo.linenoise.info/random/libQtNetwork.so.4.7.4
Jun 19 18:41:54 <ceene> you can try and replace your libQtNetwork.so with that file
Jun 19 18:42:10 <ceene> that patch was enough to make getmewheels (www.car2go.com) client for me, for example
Jun 19 18:42:24 <ceene> and that would have solved the issue with yappari not downloading some images too
Jun 19 18:43:29 <sicelo_> 20:39 < Sicelo> ceene: if you have a moment, can test confclerk with https://debconf16.debconf.org/schedule/pentabarf.xml
Jun 19 18:43:33 <sicelo_> 20:41 < Sicelo> i get: Error during download - SSL Handshake failed
Jun 19 18:44:29 <ceene> i don't have my n900 here now
Jun 19 18:44:56 <ceene> but its certificate says tls 1.2
Jun 19 18:45:08 <ceene> if it won't allow ssl3, maemo's qt won't work
Jun 19 18:45:15 <ceene> if it doesn't allow downgrade to tls1.0
Jun 19 18:45:20 <ceene> my qt won't work
Jun 19 18:46:45 <ceene> i have another bigger patch for qt on my personal queue
Jun 19 18:46:52 <ceene> that requires more up to date openssl
Jun 19 18:47:20 <ceene> on a debian pc it works
Jun 19 18:48:05 <Sicelo> i guess i'll just use N900 calendar (was trying to be 'fancy') .. that confclerk is a nice schedule
Jun 19 18:48:26 <Sicelo> if at least the PC version could export (e.g. to ics)
Jun 19 18:48:31 <ceene> try replacing libQtNetwork, don't be shy
Jun 19 18:48:57 <Sicelo> :p
Jun 19 18:49:02 <ceene> 20:41 < ceene> http://maemo.linenoise.info/random/libQtNetwork.so.4.7.4
Jun 19 18:49:02 <ceene> 20:41 < ceene> you can try and replace your libQtNetwork.so with that file
Jun 19 18:49:05 <Sicelo> please upload .. i can try
Jun 19 18:49:05 <Sicelo> ah
Jun 19 18:49:21 <ceene> just make a backup just in case i screwed up
Jun 19 18:58:34 <ceene> how is it going?
Jun 19 18:59:00 <Sicelo> `still downloading .. i have no idea why it's so slow
Jun 19 18:59:04 <ceene> oh
Jun 19 18:59:09 <ceene> it should be a big link
Jun 19 18:59:14 <Sicelo> amost done though
Jun 19 19:00:17 <Sicelo> works :)
Jun 19 19:00:21 <ceene> :D
Jun 19 19:00:21 <Sicelo> thanks a mil
Jun 19 19:00:28 <ceene> now you have to pester someone
Jun 19 19:00:37 <ceene> so this qt4-x11 is pushed to the masses
Jun 19 19:00:41 <Sicelo> and that's YOU YOU
Jun 19 19:00:49 <Sicelo> and who .. merlin1991 maybe?
Jun 19 19:00:56 <ceene> don't know
Jun 19 19:01:19 <ceene> it was pali who committed this for me
Jun 19 19:02:01 <ceene> gonna write on the github issue to ask :)
Jun 19 19:02:12 <Sicelo> do :)
Jun 19 19:02:23 <Sicelo> who knows what else is 'stuck' due to this 
Jun 19 19:02:47 <ceene> yes, there could be a lots of apps that are deemed unusable and just need a little patch on qt
Jun 19 19:04:00 <Sicelo> brb
Jun 19 19:11:43 <bencoh> could why omweather doesn't work either
Jun 19 19:11:47 <bencoh> haven't checked the details
Jun 19 19:13:14 <bencoh> ah, omweather is a gtk/hildon app ... dunno
Jun 19 19:13:15 <ceene> you can try it
Jun 19 19:13:19 <ceene> oh, then it's not it
Jun 19 19:14:12 <bencoh> well it might be, depending on how they use libssl, but not qt-related :)
Jun 19 19:16:09 <Sicelo> i use foreca .. has worked fine since day one for me
Jun 19 19:19:40 <bencoh> closed source, and I didn't/dont want a widget either
Jun 19 19:20:05 <Sicelo> ah
Jun 19 19:20:06 <bencoh> (battery/mem leak)
Jun 19 19:20:27 <Sicelo> i don't use the widget .. so not had the leaks
Jun 19 19:20:33 <Sicelo> (at least not noticed them)
Jun 19 19:30:00 <bencoh> hmm, looks like he updated it: http://maemo.org/packages/view/purple-protocol-telegram/
Jun 19 19:30:17 <bencoh> but the most interesting part is he replaced the missing glib bits, according to changelog
Jun 19 19:30:29 <Sicelo> updated when?
Jun 19 19:30:41 <bencoh> 3 weeks ago
Jun 19 19:31:25 <bencoh> that means 1. replacing the bits is do-able 2. it's maintainable :)
Jun 19 19:31:48 <bencoh> (obviously 2. is the best part)
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