**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 04 02:59:58 2016 Aug 04 11:48:57 ~combined Aug 04 11:48:58 methinks combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/, or http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/bin/n900/ Aug 04 11:49:18 ~flasher Aug 04 11:49:18 extra, extra, read all about it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ Aug 04 11:55:49 you want: Aug 04 11:55:52 ~flashing Aug 04 11:55:52 extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing Aug 04 16:59:56 * CatButts ponders using SDL 1.2 instead of SDL 2.x in case he one day aquires an N900 Aug 04 17:00:29 what's the problem w/ sdl2 on n900? Aug 04 17:00:50 not in repo Aug 04 17:01:00 and no one bothered to check if it compiles/works Aug 04 17:01:02 so it's not a problem with n900 Aug 04 17:01:09 nah Aug 04 17:01:27 but seriously, there are apps that use sdl2? Aug 04 17:01:39 lots of them Aug 04 17:01:41 mostly games Aug 04 17:02:27 I want a music tracker Aug 04 17:03:11 what's that? Aug 04 17:03:25 app that lets you track music Aug 04 17:03:29 a tool to make musics, with a vertical, grid-like interface Aug 04 17:03:31 ah, a synth w/ a certain loopy interface Aug 04 17:03:39 nope Aug 04 17:03:46 tracker Aug 04 17:03:50 synth is a synth Aug 04 17:04:17 tracker is more like spreadsheet music Aug 04 17:04:38 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-08x0xDsRYfY/Utfyvto5uFI/AAAAAAAAHkc/V19V74gZ1zg/s1600/schism.gif Aug 04 17:05:21 keep in mind you have 800x480 Aug 04 17:05:41 so I make window with that default size Aug 04 17:06:13 I have the replayer handy, the most intimidating thing is figuring out how to write GUI Aug 04 17:06:21 for me Aug 04 17:06:29 if you just want easy way, learn pygtk Aug 04 17:06:49 if you know c/c++ gofind ready made one Aug 04 17:07:04 C Aug 04 17:07:25 what's the problem with existing trackers for linux? Aug 04 17:07:36 silly question Aug 04 17:07:38 they dont do his replayer Aug 04 17:08:10 "my" replayer Aug 04 17:08:30 what's that? Aug 04 17:08:46 replayer takes a music format and coughs out music Aug 04 17:09:10 l29ah: you really dont know what are tracker music? Aug 04 17:09:14 so you want a gui for your generator? Aug 04 17:09:27 KotCzarny: i know only basics Aug 04 17:09:34 and nothing about how is it made Aug 04 17:09:38 think of it as a recipe Aug 04 17:09:39 something like that L29Ah Aug 04 17:09:47 and you can apply different effects Aug 04 17:09:49 basically Aug 04 17:10:10 (to each note) Aug 04 17:10:48 so, replayer takes notes and spews out pcm? Aug 04 17:10:52 so there are 2 main parts, 1/ editor, 2/ replayer Aug 04 17:10:58 yup Aug 04 17:11:09 takes 'recipe' also called 'module' Aug 04 17:11:34 ever heard tunes in keygen/cracker ? Aug 04 17:11:41 or demo? Aug 04 17:11:44 http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PENIS!.PNG 1st col is note, 2nd instrument, 3rd and 4th are fx Aug 04 17:11:57 nice domain Aug 04 17:12:07 also, unable to connect Aug 04 17:12:12 ouch Aug 04 17:12:13 lots of them Aug 04 17:12:24 hmmmm Aug 04 17:12:25 yet historical tracker music is usually quite limited Aug 04 17:12:28 lemme fix that Aug 04 17:12:33 nope, it isnt Aug 04 17:12:34 and gets boring after a thousand of hours Aug 04 17:12:35 as for me Aug 04 17:12:43 its as boring as the author Aug 04 17:12:54 trackers are just made creating music easier Aug 04 17:13:13 sure, but i guess i already can know if i'm hit with a .mod or .it by hearing it Aug 04 17:13:16 musical note sheets are very crude tracker uis Aug 04 17:13:23 oh Aug 04 17:13:26 mostly, yes Aug 04 17:13:31 but some are pro quality Aug 04 17:14:08 sorry, my server shat itself Aug 04 17:14:11 http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PENIS!.PNG Aug 04 17:14:21 right, what you see here is a pattern Aug 04 17:14:33 it is divided into channels Aug 04 17:14:39 large collumns Aug 04 17:14:44 and rows Aug 04 17:15:04 L29Ah: midis are trackers too, but industry standarized regarding instruments/effects used Aug 04 17:15:09 each large col is divided into above mentioned smaller columns Aug 04 17:15:23 ah Aug 04 17:15:35 think of tracked music like midi Aug 04 17:15:45 i don't remember any effects in midi Aug 04 17:15:47 but it carries its own instruments/samples Aug 04 17:15:54 it's a dumb sampler afair Aug 04 17:15:57 but mods are more free to implement replayer and effects Aug 04 17:16:10 and no,midis can also get pretty complex/pro Aug 04 17:16:23 depends on midi rendering endine Aug 04 17:16:25 *engine Aug 04 17:18:54 * CatButts rolls on his lazy cat arse instead of working on his thinghie Aug 04 17:29:00 * CatButts poek L29Ah Aug 04 17:29:02 https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_player&query=33456 Aug 04 17:29:10 some tracked music Aug 04 17:29:20 of the 4channel variety Aug 04 17:29:41 catbutts: my player can play http archives Aug 04 17:29:47 ie. browse/play Aug 04 17:30:00 https://api.modarchive.org/downloads.php?moduleid=33456#amigafor.mod Aug 04 17:30:06 then you get this Aug 04 17:30:20 i think i have modarchive mirrored Aug 04 17:30:34 tens of gigs, but hey,i like cruising on random ;) Aug 04 17:30:52 gonna need a bigger SD card Aug 04 17:30:54 hahha Aug 04 17:31:23 you bet Aug 04 17:31:25 ;) Aug 04 17:31:57 ahm, modland,not modarchive Aug 04 17:32:05 http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n900-2917.php hmmmmm Aug 04 17:32:18 this says 32gb internal Aug 04 17:32:23 am I reading right? Aug 04 17:32:34 yes Aug 04 17:32:42 user available ~28G Aug 04 17:33:00 but you can easily put big microsd and have more Aug 04 17:33:04 128/256G Aug 04 17:33:11 boring shit Aug 04 17:33:17 >microSD, up to 16 GB (dedicated slot) Aug 04 17:33:30 nah, dont believe the hype Aug 04 17:34:56 someday, n900, someday Aug 04 17:35:29 I currently have an SE W900i Aug 04 17:35:35 J2ME can only go so far Aug 04 17:36:08 CatButts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZublJ5TLb8Y Aug 04 17:36:45 aciiiiiiiiiiid Aug 04 17:37:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBBWWj5h_c Aug 04 17:38:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihZs1dRqCU Aug 04 17:43:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ur0YfzuU0 Aug 04 20:21:14 i have submitted a request for repo access ... who approves/disapproves? Aug 04 20:25:04 merlin1991 / council / me Aug 04 20:25:12 the latter worst case Aug 04 20:25:17 lol Aug 04 20:25:55 however I don't receive according mails anymore, so I wouldn't know about any requests Aug 04 20:42:24 DocScrutinizer05: does this mean you can consider my request? Aug 04 20:44:15 I can consider it, but I'm not really supposed to Aug 04 20:44:24 not my call Aug 04 20:45:13 I'm just the fallback when maemo administrative infra (council, maintainers, whatnot else) completely falls apart Aug 04 20:45:54 facilitate the facilitation Aug 04 20:46:08 please ping council, it's their job to either do it themselves, or know whom they assigned to the task and tell you about that Aug 04 20:47:21 I noticed recently all councilers got added to garage group, so maybe... Aug 04 20:47:59 afaik merlin1991 is the official maintainer of repos Aug 04 20:48:37 don't know if he's also in charge to approve and grant access requests Aug 04 20:49:27 *technically* it's him who makes sure you have access and that access works Aug 04 20:53:51 okay. thanks for info. i'll wait a day or two and see what happens, then start bugging people Aug 04 21:15:09 my N900 is stuck in PC Suite Mode :-/ Aug 04 21:19:07 that's the best mode Aug 04 21:19:19 you can use sshfs to move files Aug 04 21:29:44 I don't need PC suite mode for that ;-) WLAN rocks Aug 04 21:31:04 I need a hero Aug 04 21:31:17 I'm holding out for a hero Aug 04 21:31:31 Till the end of the night Aug 04 21:40:24 im not sure if im crazy or not but i just got me another n900 :) Aug 04 21:41:01 that'll be third, but i just couldn't resist the offer on local auction site Aug 04 21:48:45 Vajb: i also saw a nice N900, but at the time was broke, lol. would been my third too Aug 04 21:49:25 gotta stock up on dem spare parts for aging hardware, eh? Aug 04 21:52:28 * L29Ah have stocked five jack replacements Aug 04 22:33:28 I been at five when Neo900 started **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 05 02:59:58 2016