**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 15 02:59:58 2016 Aug 15 10:24:31 hey I'm having trouble with the bluetooth connection between my tablet and this new handset I just put together Aug 15 10:24:52 ~pan Aug 15 10:24:53 somebody said pan was https://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN Aug 15 10:25:15 honestly I don't want another phone, I just put togehter an n900 which is virtually new, but it's still basically a text/call/gps device and sometimes internet, it's rough trying to respond or read emails and stuff Aug 15 10:25:42 is pan the one where it doesn't use as much battery? Aug 15 10:29:34 no I need to connect my android tablet to the n900 for data Aug 15 10:30:57 could someone PLEASE help me out Aug 15 10:33:14 I'm running CSSU Aug 15 10:33:44 also the linenoise and muarf repos don't contain all the stuff Aug 15 10:34:39 unless they're conflicting with each other, I tried just the linenoise repos, and just the muarf ones, I couldn't find a lot of the software I used to use like the dictionary autocorrect thing or... really anything else, FMMS even wasn't there, I'm wondering if they're all in some dev repo? Aug 15 10:35:15 please I am ready to do all that's necessary right now, I just got home from several hours on trains, could someone help Aug 15 10:35:56 1/ use either muarf OR linenoise, they are the same mirrors Aug 15 10:36:10 2/ quite a bit of software is in extras Aug 15 10:36:20 where is extras? Aug 15 10:36:40 3/ extras-devel has even more, BUT! only enable it to install package, then disable it Aug 15 10:36:44 almost all of what I need is in extras, I don't need mirrors for standard nokia shit Aug 15 10:36:48 I know that Aug 15 10:36:57 where are those repos now though? Aug 15 10:37:03 ... Aug 15 10:37:20 read the repos wiki page again Aug 15 10:37:25 where? Aug 15 10:38:50 please, please help with this PAN, my android tablet is wifi/bluetooth only, I need to connect it to the data and wifi kills the n900 battery in a VERY short time Aug 15 10:39:04 and it's WEP and ad-hoc only Aug 15 10:39:32 ~repos Aug 15 10:39:32 it has been said that repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos Aug 15 10:42:10 do you use these extras and extras testing on CSSU? Aug 15 10:43:45 CAN YOU FUCKING HELP PLEASE Aug 15 11:38:29 do you still need beagleboard xM's? Aug 15 11:38:32 er Aug 15 11:38:34 wrong channel Aug 15 11:45:34 ;) Aug 15 14:02:23 fishbulb ... PEBKAC! Aug 15 14:03:27 use only one set of repos at a time ... the N900 should handle having all, i guess, but it will obviously take very long to update repo information Aug 15 14:03:48 just follow the steps that KotCzarny and others give Aug 15 14:07:23 sicelo, he apparently asks the same questions everyday, hoping for new answer maybe? Aug 15 14:30:13 what same questions every day Aug 15 14:30:32 maemo is your life Aug 15 14:30:54 notmine Aug 15 14:45:56 ~ask Aug 15 14:45:56 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Aug 15 14:46:13 * sicelo always loved the last sentence :p Aug 15 15:06:45 <_maniac_> "Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic." -- pick any two Aug 15 15:07:16 comma before and? Aug 15 15:11:13 Yes! Aug 15 15:12:47 yes, and? Aug 15 16:04:42 does flashgames going to die? Aug 15 17:34:57 fishbulb starts to annoy Aug 15 17:38:06 ~fishbulb is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-08-12.log.html#t2016-08-12T19:22:18 Aug 15 17:38:06 okay, DocScrutinizer05 Aug 15 17:40:40 he doesnt do what he is told Aug 15 17:40:50 that's the main problem Aug 15 17:50:45 [2016-08-11 Thu 17:23:37] that fishbulb, tztztz always so "I want that, and I want it now! and no, I won't do it the way you suggest, I want it *my* way" Aug 15 17:51:55 and then such BS like [2016-08-15 Mon 16:30:32] maemo is your life [2016-08-15 Mon 16:30:54] notmine Aug 15 17:52:19 if that was true then STFU Aug 15 17:52:43 MAEMO IS LIFE Aug 15 17:52:47 sicelo's answer '~ask' was exactly to the point Aug 15 17:54:55 L29Ah: :D Aug 15 17:55:10 Wizzup: how's your gentoo? :3 Aug 15 17:55:30 Still running, not actively being used until I finish a few other personal projects Aug 15 17:55:38 I expect to work more on it in a few weeks Aug 15 17:58:17 <_maniac_> does anyone has binhost with gentoo packages for n900? Aug 15 17:58:36 No, I guess I could set one up. Aug 15 20:35:42 ~bluetooth Aug 15 20:35:43 hmm... bluetooth is at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Is%20anyone%20working%20on%20Bluetooth%20for%203870 or at http://dnsv6.iihe.ac.be/iPAQGPRSv6/BtConfig.html .. and you might wanna take a look at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-Mobile-Phone, or at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/chan_btp+%E2%80%94+Bluetooth+Presence+Tutorial Aug 15 20:35:56 ~pan Aug 15 20:35:57 extra, extra, read all about it, pan is https://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN Aug 15 20:39:34 is pan or dun used to give internet to a tablet Aug 15 20:40:13 depends. usually pan Aug 15 20:41:44 its' an android tablet that's wifi only Aug 15 20:42:40 I can't use any of the wifi stuff because it won't connect to an open ad-hoc connection, and the wifi destroys the battery Aug 15 20:44:13 dun is usually for older things Aug 15 20:44:33 I can't find a report of pan working with android tablets Aug 15 20:44:48 it's running cyanogenmod if that makes any difference Aug 15 20:44:58 dun is Dial Up Network, and as this name suggests, is used to dial up to a network with a modem Aug 15 20:45:15 I was reading the wiki page Aug 15 20:46:00 can someone please help setting up pan? I cant' really even use gmail on the n900 Aug 15 20:46:06 http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/12572/are-there-any-android-phones-that-allow-bluetooth-pan-off-the-shelf Aug 15 20:46:40 it's like the difference of filling your glas from the bottle on the table vs ordering a new glass of wine at the waiter Aug 15 20:47:21 the latter is dun, the former pan Aug 15 20:47:21 cyanogenmod seems to do the most Aug 15 20:47:49 see the link, android since ver 4.x does pan (and maybe 3.x) Aug 15 20:48:01 yeah the tablet is fine Aug 15 20:48:28 how do I ssh into the n900 through usb ? Aug 15 20:48:38 ~usbnet Aug 15 20:48:39 usbnet is, like, at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking or and usbnet in 2.4.18 (desktop) is broken, you want to use > 2.4.19-pre2 or see windows usbnet for windows support or a patched version is at http://handhelds.org/~paxanima/usbnet/, or at http://zorian.kicks-ass.org/files/usbnet-2.4.21-rc7.tar.gz, or http://handhelds.org/~mallum/usbnet-2.4.20.patch, or dhcp over usbnet, ... Aug 15 20:48:43 o.o Aug 15 20:48:53 wrong factoid Aug 15 20:49:03 and very old Aug 15 20:51:17 ~listvalues usb.*network Aug 15 20:51:21 Factoid search of 'usb.*network' by value returned no results. Aug 15 20:51:30 ~listvalues usb Aug 15 20:51:31 Factoid search of 'usb' by value (21 of 101): 2.2 ;; 2.4.21 ;; 2.4.5-ac1 ;; agag ;; airport skd ;; airport tas ;; airport tmz ;; astribank ;; ehci ;; h1900 test order ;; huh? but if kyle ;; k7s5a ;; linux.inf ;; musthave ;; ohci ;; oldtest jagur ;; ov511 ;; reason it's so big ;; s100 ;; sbp2 ;; sharp i/o. Aug 15 20:51:55 ~listkeys #maemo.*usb.* Aug 15 20:51:57 Factoid search of '#maemo.*usb.*' by key returned no results. Aug 15 20:52:07 ~listkeys #maemo*usb Aug 15 20:52:09 Factoid search of '#maemo*usb' by key returned no results. Aug 15 20:52:14 ~listkeys #maemo usb Aug 15 20:52:15 Factoid search of '#maemo usb' by key returned no results. Aug 15 20:52:20 lol Aug 15 20:52:31 arrrgh Aug 15 20:52:39 someone went full nazi? Aug 15 20:59:49 sigyn is a spam defense bot by freenode Aug 15 21:00:02 a little trigger happy Aug 15 21:00:16 obviously could use some configuration Aug 15 21:00:26 already taken care of Aug 15 21:00:48 shouldn't trigger flood when 2 nicks talk Aug 15 21:01:06 hmm, that's pretty hard to decide Aug 15 21:02:37 look, I address the bot via ~, and it's imposiible for sigyn to know this is a legitimate answer of the bot to something I said Aug 15 21:03:06 still, its not flood spam Aug 15 21:03:21 in a certain way it actually is Aug 15 21:03:34 so if someone types same smiley 3 times its triggered? Aug 15 21:03:36 I can't blame sigyn Aug 15 21:03:42 or simple yes/no chat Aug 15 21:03:51 I don't know details Aug 15 21:03:58 unless it went wild on # repeated Aug 15 21:04:25 I've seen people getting klined for posting "good moring" in 5 channels with sigyn Aug 15 21:05:10 /wall is a bitch Aug 15 21:05:21 well, e is taking care. Thanks e! Aug 15 21:05:31 maemo.org is nothing to do with nokia right Aug 15 21:05:48 maemo.org just happens to be created by nokia Aug 15 21:06:00 and then abandoned by it and lives as a community Aug 15 21:06:27 cool, and with cssu I just use normal extras/testing/devel ? Aug 15 21:07:07 you use only extras, testing is for specific people. and devel is very dangerous Aug 15 21:07:13 or do I use fremantle-1.3 or what Aug 15 21:07:22 I never have devel enabled Aug 15 21:07:37 you shouldnt enable testing neither Aug 15 21:07:53 I've got one or two things, yappari mainly when it worked, and an IR remote thing Aug 15 21:08:06 and a few other things that were only in devel Aug 15 21:08:23 which repo do I use with cssu though Aug 15 21:08:35 ~cssu Aug 15 21:08:35 i guess cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Aug 15 21:08:40 what do I put as the distribution Aug 15 21:08:53 you dont. use cssu installer Aug 15 21:08:57 it does work for you Aug 15 21:09:10 this phone has cssu Aug 15 21:09:37 so what do I put as the distribution? Aug 15 21:10:03 http://repository.maemo.org/community/community-fremantle.install Aug 15 21:10:12 open on a computer Aug 15 21:10:20 or use wget -O- http://repository.maemo.org/community/community-fremantle.install Aug 15 21:10:50 what is it? Aug 15 21:10:54 but installer does few more things to repos Aug 15 21:11:01 its just a text file Aug 15 21:11:20 you broke your system, you can break it further Aug 15 21:12:00 look man I just need to fill in the repos, I managed to assemble a new phone Aug 15 21:12:05 see above Aug 15 21:12:15 ~fishbulb Aug 15 21:12:16 fishbulb is probably http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-08-12.log.html#t2016-08-12T19:22:18 Aug 15 21:13:44 that's creepy and also depressing Aug 15 21:13:53 also I did what you said Aug 15 21:14:27 obviously I used backup menu to transfer the stuff onto this new phone, but the repos got deleted Aug 15 21:14:36 by me, at some point Aug 15 21:15:31 the line noise ones are fine, I need extras and extras testing, I'm not sure what to put in the "distribution" field Aug 15 21:15:58 you usually don't want extras-testing Aug 15 21:16:32 no, not usually Aug 15 21:16:36 rarely Aug 15 21:16:50 you *occasionally* and *temporarily* want extras-devel, for installing/updating packages that are not available in extras Aug 15 21:17:16 i dare to say almost no one should use 'testing' Aug 15 21:17:26 the only people who need extras-testing are package testers Aug 15 21:17:28 extras-testing is a subset of extras-devel and extras Aug 15 21:17:31 it was meant for people doing tester's work Aug 15 21:17:56 so the latter two are all you ever need from extras-* Aug 15 21:18:36 this phone has cssu and power kernel, I just need to know what I put as the distribution Aug 15 21:18:51 ~fishbulb Aug 15 21:18:52 try fremantle Aug 15 21:18:52 hmm... fishbulb is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-08-12.log.html#t2016-08-12T19:22:18 Aug 15 21:18:56 fremantle? Aug 15 21:19:19 that is the distribution after all Aug 15 21:19:25 yes, usually fremantle is fine where it is needed (some repos need / though) Aug 15 21:20:04 there are one-click .install files for every repo afaik Aug 15 21:20:07 ./ is in SSU repos IIRC Aug 15 21:20:13 yep Aug 15 21:20:14 what? Aug 15 21:21:03 fishbulb: use one-click repo .install files Aug 15 21:21:22 ~extras Aug 15 21:21:22 well, extras is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras Aug 15 21:21:25 I like using faster application manager because it's faster Aug 15 21:21:28 they are meade to avoid such trouble like "which distro?" Aug 15 21:21:35 ~fam Aug 15 21:21:36 from memory, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam Aug 15 21:21:45 you say this like it's something I should already know Aug 15 21:22:51 FYI speedyham is now in all versions of CSSU as of latest stable Aug 15 21:23:25 ok maybe I should upgrade cssu or something? Aug 15 21:23:33 ~fishbulb Aug 15 21:23:34 fishbulb is, like, http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-08-12.log.html#t2016-08-12T19:22:18 Aug 15 21:23:37 this is probably the last n900 I can cobble together Aug 15 21:24:00 fishbulb: would you pretty please bother to *read* the info this URL points to? Aug 15 21:25:01 what info Aug 15 21:25:15 the info this URL points to Aug 15 21:25:55 sixwheeledbeast what do you mean "as of latest stable" ? when was the last latest stable? Aug 15 21:26:28 ~cssu Aug 15 21:26:28 well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Aug 15 21:27:21 CSSU Stable Smaemo8 10th Jun 2016 Aug 15 21:27:26 particularly http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Changelog to answer that question (however I wonder of which relevance it is) Aug 15 21:27:34 how do I find out which version I'm running? it was whatever was latest last time I checked Aug 15 21:27:45 ok that is much later than whatever this phone is running Aug 15 21:27:48 About Community SSU in Setting panel Aug 15 21:28:54 21.2011.38-1Smaemo7 stable Aug 15 21:29:04 oh my god that was a long time ago Aug 15 21:29:34 only one increment away from Smaemo8 Aug 15 21:30:04 so I should upgrade it? Aug 15 21:30:07 yes Aug 15 21:30:42 though it seems you nuked all your repos, I guess you rather go for a fresh install Aug 15 21:30:57 see http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-08-12.log.html#t2016-08-12T19:22:18 Aug 15 21:30:57 "Since the release of the stable branch CSSU-S is meant to be the LongTermSupport hotspot for all N900 users/owners. " Aug 15 21:31:36 ~lazyflashing Aug 15 21:31:36 lazyflashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach Aug 15 21:32:23 ~jrrepos Aug 15 21:32:24 jrrepos is probably http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Aug 15 21:32:32 ~cssu Aug 15 21:32:33 methinks cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Aug 15 21:32:33 I have the line noise ones Aug 15 21:32:33 If it doesn't offer to upgrade to Smaemo8 then something is wrong as above. Aug 15 21:32:36 what other ones do I need Aug 15 21:32:37 ~bm Aug 15 21:32:38 [backupmenu] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install Aug 15 21:32:53 I need the information on my phone, can you stop just spamming these links? I have all that installed Aug 15 21:33:30 YOU are the one asking how to do stuff right Aug 15 21:33:54 YOU nuked all your repos Aug 15 21:34:11 you're creating a really nice environment here Aug 15 21:34:23 no, that's actually you Aug 15 21:34:57 you're asking the same wrong questions about repos sine a week already, every day Aug 15 21:35:31 guess what will happen ONCE THEY ARE ANSWERED Aug 15 21:35:41 they were. Aug 15 21:35:45 multiple times Aug 15 21:35:51 the point is THEY GOT ANSWERED way too often already Aug 15 21:35:51 same question == same answer Aug 15 21:36:32 and when we answer them you go like [2016-08-15 Mon 23:32:53] I need the information on my phone, can you stop just spamming these links? I have all that installed Aug 15 21:36:53 you're telling me to format my phone Aug 15 21:37:02 yes, since you nuked it Aug 15 21:37:20 I need the information on it Aug 15 21:37:38 calendar texts and calls, and mms, and other stuff Aug 15 21:37:44 the info will persist as long as you only flash COMBINED but not VANILLA Aug 15 21:37:45 7 years of stuff Aug 15 21:38:05 I don't know what either of those are Aug 15 21:38:32 however I *strongly* suggest to create a set of backups (both osso-backup and NM) before you do Aug 15 21:39:01 using backupmenu Aug 15 21:39:05 to create a decent backup you need a uSD Aug 15 21:39:17 s/NM/BM/ Aug 15 21:40:02 ((I don't know what either of those are)) read!!: Aug 15 21:40:05 ~flashing Aug 15 21:40:06 hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing Aug 15 21:40:32 what are you saying to flash Aug 15 21:40:41 it's explained in lovingly epic length there Aug 15 21:40:46 I'm making a backup now Aug 15 21:41:10 do backup with BM *and* genuine osso-backup Aug 15 21:41:25 the latter is an app that ships with every maemo Aug 15 21:41:47 then do ~lazyflashing Aug 15 21:42:29 then... oh no I'm supposed to >>stop just spamming these links<< Aug 15 21:42:37 you think reflashing the phone will be easier than typing the repos in? Aug 15 21:42:51 and anyway I said that in http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-08-12.log.html#t2016-08-12T19:22:18 already Aug 15 21:43:12 yes, since all information you need is on ~maemo-repos factoid Aug 15 21:43:30 and for cssu repos i've pasted you the link to installer containing cssu infos Aug 15 21:43:36 you ignored them both Aug 15 21:43:43 given the unknown degree of messing up we need to deal with on your phone, a clean fresh install will probbaly be in order Aug 15 21:45:00 the correct sequence to install a phone has been given to you several times now Aug 15 21:45:00 I need to keep my calls texts mms calendar appointments and contacts, and other info Aug 15 21:45:24 all those info get backed up by osso-backup in a very convenient way Aug 15 21:46:04 and the programs? Aug 15 21:46:41 BackupMenu does a *complete* backup that's more comprehensive but also less convenient to extract particular data from Aug 15 21:47:11 the programs are a list of install instructions in osso-backup. VM backs them up completely Aug 15 21:47:14 which is why I'm reluctant to flash the whole phone just to get the repos Aug 15 21:47:48 I had to know which would work wth cssu Aug 15 21:48:01 everything works with CSSU Aug 15 21:48:55 CSSU is just an update repo on top of the basic repos Aug 15 21:50:03 I've done the backup, I think I'll just upgrade to the new stable Aug 15 21:50:30 well, you *could* try to re-add the CSSU repo then Aug 15 21:50:42 or better yet, simply install CSSU anew Aug 15 21:50:59 It should 'just work' Aug 15 21:51:02 I need all the stuff like I mentioned before Aug 15 21:52:04 what's speedyham, because ham is absolutely not speedy Aug 15 21:52:15 but you will run into trouble when you messed up your repos, also when you used fapman too much, or did any other stuff that's known to destroy maemo Aug 15 21:52:25 ~speedyham Aug 15 21:52:25 SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb. SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU-testing now Aug 15 21:52:44 so speedyham is in the latest stable then? Aug 15 21:52:55 ~literal speedyham Aug 15 21:52:55 "speedyham" is "SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb. SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU-testing now" Aug 15 21:52:58 I have the linenoise mirrors Aug 15 21:53:31 what do I do to install the new cssu stable, I don't want to wreck this Aug 15 21:53:39 infobot: no, speedyham is SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb. SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU now Aug 15 21:53:39 okay, DocScrutinizer05 Aug 15 21:54:06 fishbulb: go to ~cssu website, click "install" Aug 15 21:54:43 unless you decided we might be right and it's wiser to do a xomplete fresh install of everything Aug 15 21:54:56 I don't know you seem irate Aug 15 21:55:23 a tad, yes Aug 15 21:55:53 anyway, seems you feel uncomfortable with a fresh install, so go for CSSU install Aug 15 21:56:03 but first check your repos Aug 15 21:56:54 you need muarf or linenoise, and extras, and possibly tools which comes automatically with BM one-click install Aug 15 21:57:22 CSSU repo gets added by CSSU install procedure Aug 15 21:57:28 I did the bm one click install and those repos weren't added Aug 15 21:57:56 hmm Aug 15 21:57:58 if I wanted to do a fresh install what would I do Aug 15 21:58:46 you make a set of backups to a uSD(!) card, then you do ~lazyflashing, then ~jrrepos, then ~bm, then ~cssu Aug 15 21:58:54 then you restore your data Aug 15 21:58:55 I used your script for the last time I freshly installed anything Aug 15 21:59:02 from osso-backup Aug 15 21:59:21 and ossobackup comes from where though Aug 15 21:59:34 it comes with every maemo Aug 15 21:59:42 called "backup" Aug 15 22:00:22 I made the backups with BM already Aug 15 22:00:27 in your app icons Aug 15 22:00:39 you want a osso-backup TOO Aug 15 22:00:42 I've never used it before Aug 15 22:00:49 then it's about time Aug 15 22:01:05 ok seems like I used it twice before Aug 15 22:01:09 it's specialized to backup your data Aug 15 22:02:45 however neither BM nor osoo-backup do a backup of your 28GB directory that's exported via USB as a storage device!!! Aug 15 22:03:03 any photos and music there needs manual backup Aug 15 22:03:05 his usb is broken Aug 15 22:03:10 I know Aug 15 22:03:29 I told you I took apart 3 broken phones and put a new one together Aug 15 22:03:35 this is the last one I have Aug 15 22:03:37 so you need to copy any stuff from there to your uSD manually, using file manager or console command Aug 15 22:03:45 i would say to use tinysmb, but it would confuse him more Aug 15 22:04:00 yes Aug 15 22:04:07 let's avoid this Aug 15 22:04:07 not to mention doing it over wifi might be a pain Aug 15 22:04:53 it's plugged into the usb right now, this is the last working phone I've been able to make Aug 15 22:05:07 ok lets' avoid this, I'm installing cssu from the website Aug 15 22:05:28 installing CSSU is safe Aug 15 22:05:44 at least from histroical evidence Aug 15 22:06:06 and you did a backup, so you're fine Aug 15 22:10:50 eventually check your repo list - should look similar to mine, except maybe community-stable or the like instead community-testing, and fremantle vs fremantle1.3 Aug 15 22:10:56 IroN900:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list Aug 15 22:10:57 deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free Aug 15 22:10:59 deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free Aug 15 22:11:00 deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ Aug 15 22:11:02 deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0 ./ Aug 15 22:11:57 anyway those are 4 repos that should show up there after CSSU install, maybe slighty different names Aug 15 22:12:48 you're NOT supposed to edit that file directly, rather use hildon application manager "cataloggs" to edit them Aug 15 22:13:42 * DocScrutinizer05 is out for a dinner Aug 15 22:15:12 I repeat: editing that file directly is *dangerous* since there are other files too which need to be in sync with this one Aug 15 22:15:48 use HAM "catalogs" to edit Aug 15 22:17:29 the file /etc/apt/sources.list is *empty* Aug 15 22:18:22 you said the repos would be updated, no new ones were added Aug 15 22:20:13 http://termbin.com/nazo Aug 15 22:20:29 ok they're greyed out, I'l figure out whch ones match Aug 15 22:20:38 good Aug 15 22:21:09 it sucks the names shown in HAM do not necessarily match the URLs in ^^^ Aug 15 22:21:26 the grayed out ones are disabled Aug 15 22:21:53 thanks for the help, I would like to get PAN working but typng out everything on the tiny keyboard is very annoying Aug 15 22:21:55 red ones are defect and should get disabled too, usually those are the original nokia repos Aug 15 22:22:47 is this automatically speedyham? it doesn't seem that much faster Aug 15 22:23:27 for today getting your repo issue sorted and updating to CSSU Smaemo8 seems like enough for one day :-) Aug 15 22:23:52 I have another 12 hours before I can sleep Aug 15 22:24:08 did you start the CSSU app after running install from the CSSU web site? Aug 15 22:24:28 it's all installed Aug 15 22:24:48 I asked if you started the icon Aug 15 22:25:17 I pressed a few thngs until it said "operating system sucessfully installed" Aug 15 22:25:32 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation Aug 15 22:26:06 7. Once this is completed, close HAM and go into the applications menu. Tap the Community SSU icon. This will run through a series of scripts to ensure the community repository are set up. Aug 15 22:26:07 eventually it said operating system successfuly updated Aug 15 22:26:21 8. HAM will re-open and present you the real thing: a system upgrade called Maemo 5 Community SSU - probably you want to install it ;-D. This will take a while. Once installed, your device will reboot "into" CSSU. Aug 15 22:27:18 ok I said what the last thing that happened was Aug 15 22:27:40 that doesn't answer my question and thus I'm out now, for good Aug 15 22:28:28 go and eat Aug 15 22:28:47 you can't expect people helping you when you decide which questions to answer in which way Aug 15 22:31:09 it's YOU to ask for help, and the ones trying to help you are asking questions for a reason, and they ask those questions since they know the answer is needed to understand what you did Aug 15 22:34:18 I pressed everything until cssu was installed and it said "operating system successfully installed" so I am assuming it is successfully upgraded to that recent stable release Aug 15 22:37:33 * DocScrutinizer05 headdesks Aug 15 22:38:19 you DO NOt WANT to answer a question, eh? Aug 15 22:38:40 "..I pressed everything..." OMG Aug 15 22:38:51 it's upgraded Aug 15 22:39:00 that is the answer, it is upgraded Aug 15 22:39:13 when you know everything then PLEASE don't pester us to help you Aug 15 22:39:35 it has finished installing Aug 15 22:39:46 STFU! Aug 15 22:39:55 RTFM! Aug 15 22:40:07 no this is important information that you're gettng relaly angry about Aug 15 22:40:12 ~question Aug 15 22:40:13 from memory, question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Aug 15 22:40:23 doc, you have OCD, dont you? Aug 15 22:40:37 (ie. cant leave when there is question not answered, issue not finished) Aug 15 22:40:47 yep Aug 15 22:41:00 go and take some fucking xanax or something Aug 15 22:41:25 but this is finished now, fishbulb has given sufficient proof the he(?) is not willing to cooperate, neither to RTFM Aug 15 22:41:34 ok Aug 15 22:41:38 thAT'S IT NOW Aug 15 22:42:21 he been a tad faster than me Aug 15 22:42:43 pindering a +q ban Aug 15 22:42:51 you should chill Aug 15 22:43:04 and go already Aug 15 22:43:08 insult as "thank you" for a 2h of help Aug 15 22:43:47 idiot Aug 15 22:44:55 does he really expect I redo a CSSU install to know when his friggin >>it shown "OS installed<<" shows up Aug 15 22:45:39 his refusal to answer my questin is evidence he has NFC if he clicked the CSSU installer icon or not, so I'm pretty sure he didn't Aug 15 22:46:28 common mistake, but Mr smartass fishbulb knows everything better Aug 15 22:51:13 actually the "it finished installation" is a proof it didn't. Otherwise he had said "it finished BOTH installations steps" Aug 15 22:54:00 ~wtf of the week is [2016-08-16 Tue 00:34:18] I **pressed everything** until cssu was installed and it said "operating system successfully installed" so I am assuming it is successfully upgraded to that recent stable release Aug 15 22:54:02 usage: wtf . Aug 15 22:54:11 lol Aug 15 22:54:28 ~wtf-of-the-week is [2016-08-16 Tue 00:34:18] I **pressed everything** until cssu was installed and it said "operating system successfully installed" so I am assuming it is successfully upgraded to that recent stable release Aug 15 22:54:29 okay, DocScrutinizer05 Aug 15 22:57:33 >>I gave every apt command I found, until it said "kernel updated" so I assume it installed that devuan distro now<< Aug 15 23:00:04 when there's a fine terse 9 points instruction manual (http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation), why the heck can't people simply follow it step by step and then answer a simple question regarding the process? 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