**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 11 02:59:58 2016 Sep 11 03:43:31 vahe: what do you want from python? + maemo is debian, not *ntoo Sep 11 03:46:27 antranigv: hi, my friend I just want to install pyobd Sep 11 03:46:54 better to say install and run))) Sep 11 03:47:19 vahe: python? Sep 11 03:47:25 vahe: pyobd? Sep 11 03:48:20 pyobd Sep 11 03:48:37 https://lut.im/bsIKIzeVa0/hnDJYPYpd9oKVLt6.png for funtoo it's easy)) Sep 11 03:49:06 but I have a problem in Maemo lib python-serial Sep 11 03:50:15 it is installed but will not start, sicelo it assumes that it is because of old version Sep 11 03:51:08 maybe just download the python-serial deb? Sep 11 03:51:33 antranigv: didn't sleep last night?))) Sep 11 03:52:24 vahe: the point is, maemo is not funtoo, and funtoo is not maemo, if you want it in maemo, you have to build it for maemo; did you check the repo? Sep 11 03:52:45 vahe: what "does not" start mean? Sep 11 03:54:44 antranigv: installing apps is not hard and it is now installed but does not start Sep 11 03:55:29 when trying to start it does not start Sep 11 03:56:04 I run in the terminal but do not understand the error Sep 11 03:56:37 vahe: paste the error? Sep 11 03:56:38 :D Sep 11 03:56:47 haha how :P Sep 11 03:56:52 min i try Sep 11 03:57:07 vahe: copy from the terminal, paste it in a pastebin? Sep 11 04:03:33 antranigv: repo maemo extras,extras-devel,extras-Testing **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 11 04:50:30 2016 Sep 11 06:28:39 Liu Sep 11 06:29:50 liu Sep 11 06:32:10 Liu Sep 11 06:32:17 liu Sep 11 07:52:21 ~supaplex Sep 11 07:52:29 somebody said supaplex was a classic and fun game from the msdos era. Sep 11 07:53:48 eh Sep 11 07:54:04 I'm curious how well dosbox runs on an n900 Sep 11 07:54:17 probably not all that well Sep 11 07:55:00 not well Sep 11 07:55:21 diff. architecture, no virtual helpers in instruction set Sep 11 07:57:00 ~freepascal Sep 11 07:58:42 eh, sod it Sep 11 08:28:09 n900 Sep 11 08:51:14 actually dosbox doesn't run that badly Sep 11 09:46:04 https://wiki.tizen.org/w/images/5/5a/Sdmux.pdf Sep 11 12:07:18 does anyone use the n900 as their only phone? Sep 11 12:07:53 yes Sep 11 12:08:05 typing this on N900 Sep 11 12:08:14 is it possible to have rootkits and shit? Sep 11 12:08:37 I mean if you can "hack" a linux computer can't you do the same with this thing Sep 11 12:09:01 yes. it is possible Sep 11 12:09:09 how would I check for that then Sep 11 12:09:26 same way you check elsewhere Sep 11 12:09:28 especially if I tell everyone "oh my phone is linux" and some of those poeple are fucking pieces of shit Sep 11 12:09:51 I don't know how or what to check for Sep 11 12:10:26 leave it :) Sep 11 12:10:34 isn't this problem more or less independent of the operation system, since almost every phone is a "computer" today? Sep 11 12:10:52 probably, android is "linux lite" Sep 11 12:10:52 and almost every complex system might be "hacked"? Sep 11 12:11:09 but honestly I don't fuck with other people Sep 11 12:11:11 interest in compromising No00 is close to zero Sep 11 12:11:12 's information Sep 11 12:11:17 *N900. Sep 11 12:11:29 interest in compromising your one? Sep 11 12:11:32 or my one? Sep 11 12:11:53 anyone's Sep 11 12:12:06 indulge me :) Sep 11 12:12:29 N900 official died in 2011 .. so .. Sep 11 12:12:33 truthfully I've kept this because it's not android Sep 11 12:12:46 and it isn't like it was even ever popular/mainstream Sep 11 12:12:47 and it's not iphone, it has a keyboard, and it has gps Sep 11 12:13:05 if I need a computer I use a computer and if I need a phone, I fix this one Sep 11 12:13:38 but I'm not hardcore into sniffing other poeple's underwear so to speak. digitally Sep 11 12:13:59 I don't mess with their information but I've had some real creeps do that with mine Sep 11 12:14:42 people I once trusted. strangers can do what the fuck they like, it's not relevant to them Sep 11 12:15:03 strangers would never usually bother Sep 11 12:15:47 you can secure Maemo in the same way you would your Linux system Sep 11 12:16:01 I don't know if my linux system is secure Sep 11 12:16:10 e.g. configure iptables (i assume your friends attack you via network) Sep 11 12:17:17 I don't know what I'm configuring Sep 11 12:17:52 how did you secure your computer? Sep 11 12:18:00 I basically use simple firewall tools and set them to "public" Sep 11 12:18:12 set up the router Sep 11 12:18:26 that's it. try to make passwords hard Sep 11 12:18:38 do the same on N900 then Sep 11 12:19:01 what's a firewall tool Sep 11 12:19:15 i use iptables Sep 11 12:20:14 there's genwall to make it easier (never used it) Sep 11 14:21:45 ufw on a desktop Sep 11 14:21:56 on gufw if you want gui Sep 11 14:22:05 s/on/or/ Sep 11 14:22:06 sixwheeledbeast meant: or gufw if you want gui Sep 11 15:01:49 <_maniac_> well, whoever gave me advice to buy video out cable instead of soldering it - you were probably right. Sep 11 15:02:06 <_maniac_> I'll never going to solder trrs again. Sep 11 15:05:56 <_maniac_> the next question - how do I enable tv out? Sep 11 15:11:04 <_maniac_> wait, it works. but I have bad contact somewhere along the video output Sep 11 15:49:29 <_maniac_> protip: don't add heat shrik to already stiff connector coating from the inside. especially before screwing it on metal jack. I opened plug and it was all twisted inside, shorting every wire. Sep 11 16:11:37 What is that project ot make a new n900? Sep 11 16:12:11 are you talking about neo900, or about that recent thread on TMO? Sep 11 16:13:24 bencoh, Which is cheapest and which can I buy today? Sep 11 16:13:45 none Sep 11 16:14:09 neo900 isn't out yet Sep 11 16:14:34 (and it wont be cheap either) Sep 11 16:15:06 How come they dont just make them? Sep 11 16:15:17 Like, the OQO had chineese ripoffs Sep 11 16:15:19 they still do Sep 11 16:16:18 "they"? Sep 11 16:17:03 the chinese Sep 11 16:17:10 or the people with neo900 Sep 11 16:17:16 they have been on this for years Sep 11 16:17:22 go ahead, try and make a modern phone with decent battery life, proper architecture, and FLOSS support :) Sep 11 16:18:12 bencoh, oneplus 3 did it Sep 11 16:18:21 Ubuntu phone did it Sep 11 16:18:44 no, they didnt. Sep 11 16:19:09 they're just reusing closed layers from android Sep 11 16:19:38 Ubuntu phone is using closed layers? Sep 11 16:19:41 But even so Sep 11 16:19:46 I just want the form factor Sep 11 16:21:20 <_maniac_> to be honest, I can't even type properly on n900's keyboard - buttons are too small. Sep 11 16:23:20 _maniac_: there is tvout widget, but usually its enough to connect it to enable Sep 11 16:28:49 <_maniac_> KotCzarny: yeah, it was cable problem, works fine. except this tv has only mono in and I have to apply pressure to socket on tv side to make it connect. Sep 11 16:29:35 <_maniac_> now I need to find out if n900 Sep 11 16:29:46 <_maniac_> *if n900's IR can receive signals Sep 11 16:37:53 _maniac_: it can't, it is TX only Sep 11 16:41:26 <_maniac_> there goes my dreams of turning dead n900 into youtube box for CRT tvs. Sep 11 16:52:53 lol Sep 11 16:58:57 _maniac_: you can connect radio remote via usb Sep 11 16:59:04 or bt Sep 11 17:15:05 <_maniac_> I was going to say that I have IR -> headphone jack thingy from old tv tuner, but then I realized what's wrong. Sep 11 17:16:05 <_maniac_> I can probably solder it instead of built-in microphone, but that's the easiest thing. Comparing to writing all the software to make it work. Sep 11 17:16:08 :} Sep 11 17:16:57 I kinda suspect it already exist Sep 11 17:17:01 +s Sep 11 17:17:26 maybe someone even wrote a lirc plugin Sep 11 17:17:48 <_maniac_> don't give me this ideas Sep 11 17:17:52 <_maniac_> *these Sep 11 17:18:14 just buy bt remote Sep 11 17:18:19 easier, best range too Sep 11 17:18:25 <_maniac_> http://lirc.org/html/audio.html Sep 11 17:18:48 and keep in mind, constant audio monitoring == battery/cpu drain Sep 11 17:18:57 <_maniac_> If I were going to *buy* something, I wouldn't be doing all this Sep 11 17:19:17 bt remote will be reusable in any further project Sep 11 17:19:46 _maniac_, I can type perfectly on it Sep 11 17:21:29 <_maniac_> I thought it's impossible to type with cat claws Sep 11 17:22:18 seen any secretary? Sep 11 17:22:48 <_maniac_> good point Sep 11 17:23:14 also, cat's claws are retractable Sep 11 17:23:24 in contrast with secretaries **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 12 02:59:58 2016