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Oct 03 05:02:26 <KotCzarny> maxd: gtk is quite easy, though code is ugly as every function name is 20-30 chars, hehe
Oct 03 05:03:20 <Oksana> Nokia's games ( chess, mahjongs, marbles, blocks ) should be added here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_video_games And Blocks sounds like a Tetris variant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tetris_variants
Oct 03 05:05:16 <Oksana> And if anybody wants to increase variety of games ( not that there aren't many already in Maemo repositories ), there are some curious ideas to port https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Games
Oct 03 07:01:34 <sicelo> l/win 15
Oct 03 09:13:56 <KotCzarny> 117 bugs in the code, 117 bugs in the code, squished one down, 131 bugs in the code...~lalala~
Oct 03 09:20:08 <KotCzarny> on a plus side oscp-remote-gtk works on both linux and windoze
Oct 03 09:21:38 <KotCzarny> memory column on windoze shows 5900kB, binary is ~90kB, binary + gtk libs is ~17MB
Oct 03 09:21:42 <KotCzarny> not bad.
Oct 03 09:58:43 <fishbulb> how do I access my whatsapp
Oct 03 09:58:48 <fishbulb> I only ever used it on my phone
Oct 03 09:59:06 <KotCzarny> is it whatsapp support channel?
Oct 03 09:59:51 <fishbulb> no but the only way I accessed it was with yappari
Oct 03 10:00:12 <KotCzarny> then you should probably go to whatsapp official page and read on?
Oct 03 10:01:01 <KotCzarny> you can try installing wa in android emulator
Oct 03 10:01:39 <fishbulb> emulator or android x86
Oct 03 10:02:08 <KotCzarny> whichever works
Oct 03 10:03:27 <fishbulb> I don't know if either work
Oct 03 10:04:12 <fishbulb> I'm not going to bother with the x86
Oct 03 10:12:04 <ceene> KotCzarny: how did you solve that thing that happened on windows?
Oct 03 10:15:25 <KotCzarny> ceene: ignored setting second g_io watch for errors and just check what recv call returns
Oct 03 10:18:05 <sicelo> fishbulb: or get a cheap android for whatsapp only .. that's what ceene did :-)
Oct 03 10:20:34 <KotCzarny> sicelo, naaah, that would be giving in ;)
Oct 03 10:22:34 <sicelo> he wants whatsapp so bad .. and MMS
Oct 03 10:22:56 <sicelo> he'd kill two problems with one stone :P
Oct 03 10:23:18 <KotCzarny> and stop bothering us with proprietiary software? (third :P)
Oct 03 10:25:41 <sicelo> see .. lots of benefits
Oct 03 10:26:05 <sicelo> modrana .. N900 still supports both qml and gtk UIs? which works best?
Oct 03 10:33:16 <ceene> it's certain that i've given in :(
Oct 03 10:33:27 <ceene> on the other hand, i'm slighltly involved in neo900 now
Oct 03 10:33:59 <ceene> maybe one thing compensates the other
Oct 03 10:34:02 <sicelo> still have a working conscience ;)
Oct 03 10:34:05 <sicelo> haha
Oct 03 10:34:20 <KotCzarny> ;)
Oct 03 10:34:50 <sicelo> ceene: i also have android phone now (dad gave me his old one), but it is causing me to appreciate my N900 even more
Oct 03 10:35:12 <ceene> maybe it's too old
Oct 03 10:35:19 <sicelo> Galaxy S4
Oct 03 10:35:22 <sicelo> old, yes
Oct 03 10:35:48 <ceene> to be honest, the keyboard is almost the only thing i miss
Oct 03 10:35:51 <KotCzarny> nah, android didnt change much in the way of ui
Oct 03 10:36:08 <KotCzarny> they've kept it quite consistent
Oct 03 10:36:20 <ceene> being able to apt-get install things that i'm used to use is the other thing
Oct 03 10:37:05 <sicelo> i am learning python .. so - win for N900 
Oct 03 10:37:26 <sicelo> although i see there is qpython for android
Oct 03 10:37:28 <ceene> well, I used to use python some years ago on android
Oct 03 10:37:42 <ceene> without writing a gui, though
Oct 03 10:37:44 <ceene> that's new
Oct 03 10:37:57 <ceene> i don't know how to write guis anyhow
Oct 03 10:39:50 <sicelo> ceene .. one thing i am truly annoyed about in android up to now is the ads, then the silly requests for unnecessary information, particularly location
Oct 03 10:40:03 <ceene> well, the ads are easy to remove with adblock
Oct 03 10:40:05 <ceene> you must be root, though
Oct 03 10:40:25 <ceene> and well, yes, google wants to know just about everything about you
Oct 03 10:40:31 <KotCzarny> ;)
Oct 03 10:40:52 <KotCzarny> m$ want your data too
Oct 03 10:40:56 <KotCzarny> *wants
Oct 03 10:41:00 <ceene> i think cyanogenmod allows you to set app by app permissions
Oct 03 10:41:13 <ceene> so even if you install something that wants to know your location, you can set it so it can't
Oct 03 10:41:33 <KotCzarny> for me the biggest annoyance with droid is notifications
Oct 03 10:41:47 <KotCzarny> not every version allows to set those permissions app by app
Oct 03 10:42:31 <sicelo> ceene: for now i need to use Pulse Connect/Secure (some JunOS VPN) .. not sure if it will like rooted android .. yet to test
Oct 03 10:45:10 <KotCzarny> you can rename your own su to susicelo
Oct 03 10:51:44 <ceene> sushicelo should be edible
Oct 03 10:51:52 <sicelo> :D
Oct 03 10:51:53 * ceene amuses itself
Oct 03 10:52:01 * ceene considers itself to be an 'it'
Oct 03 10:52:07 <KotCzarny> ;)
Oct 03 10:56:11 <sicelo> anyone who is good with Modrana .. i would like to download maps for South Africa & Swaziland, with alll supported zoom levels, then to use this data offline on my next trip.
Oct 03 10:56:26 <sicelo> i am not too sure how to to that :-/
Oct 03 10:58:53 <sicelo> or the highest zoom level should be sufficient? i need to be able to use it at street level details
Oct 03 10:58:56 <sicelo> -s
Oct 03 13:12:14 <zGrr> moin 
Oct 03 15:20:49 <sicelo> bug affectiing me on android, https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/fQOfo5gAI7E only solution besides rooting is to reset the whole device. omg
Oct 03 15:29:30 <KotCzarny> looks like a very basic error 
Oct 03 15:31:18 <KotCzarny> and very simple to fix
Oct 03 15:36:56 <sicelo> it is a bit annoying, and looks like many have had it on 5.0.1 ... the reset soution is annoying (to me) - how many times will i have to do that?
Oct 03 15:37:11 <KotCzarny> just root it?
Oct 03 15:37:25 <KotCzarny> n900 would be annoying without root too
Oct 03 15:40:22 <sicelo> it wouldnt be forgetting APs :)
Oct 03 16:03:27 <KotCzarny> 130 bugs in the code, 130 bugs in the code, patch it all around, 172 bugs in the code..
Oct 03 16:03:49 <KotCzarny> oscp-remote-gtk is almost usable
Oct 03 17:11:28 <KotCzarny> http://i.imgur.com/ctWXfaY.png
Oct 03 17:11:29 <KotCzarny> :)
Oct 03 17:12:31 <KotCzarny> almost everything works, 3 days of porting
Oct 03 17:33:26 * L29Ah slas Wizzup
Oct 03 18:12:20 <ds3> !vi
Oct 03 18:34:09 <sicelo> ~vi
Oct 03 18:34:09 <infobot> i guess vi is the best text editor in the world.
Oct 03 18:36:19 <L29Ah> ~gentoo
Oct 03 18:59:26 <Maxdamantus> ~redhat
Oct 03 18:59:26 <infobot> somebody said redhat was a linux distro, or rhymes with Dead Rat
Oct 03 19:02:10 <sicelo> dead rat, yay!
Oct 03 19:25:14 <sicelo> out of the blue, microb is now displaying white screen :-/
Oct 03 19:25:36 <sicelo> pages seem to load, but don't display
Oct 03 19:34:11 <sicelo> killall browser seems to have restored some sanity
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