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Oct 18 08:17:40 <Sicelo> unfortunate result of using a capacitive touch screen -- it starts to feel like N900 TS is not responsive
Oct 18 08:19:28 <Sicelo> however, the accuracy of the resistive is simply awesome! always getting frustrated when trying to position the cursor to edit a word on the SGS4 .. takes a lot of strokes to place it at the exact place. 
Oct 18 08:19:33 <ButtButts> I thought the N900 was resistive
Oct 18 08:19:37 <ButtButts> oh
Oct 18 08:19:38 <ButtButts> derp
Oct 18 08:19:42 <ButtButts> missread
Oct 18 08:20:30 <ButtButts> yeah, a tiny stylus tip beats a clumsly meat sausage a thousand times over
Oct 18 08:21:04 <Sicelo> even with the tip of the finger .. resistive still works out better
Oct 18 08:21:12 <Sicelo> at least for me
Oct 18 08:21:28 <ButtButts> Steve Jobs once said "we already have 10 stylii, we don't need to invent another"
Oct 18 08:21:39 <ButtButts> take that to ya grave, Jobs!
Oct 18 08:22:15 <Sicelo> although i've seen 'claims' on internet by some that they find the capacitives far more accurate. i think Neo900 made good choice to stick with the Resistive.
Oct 18 08:22:26 <Sicelo> lol @ Steve
Oct 18 08:24:07 <ButtButts> the Neo900 is bretty neat because it has resistive AND multitouch
Oct 18 08:24:34 <ButtButts> that pricetag, though
Oct 18 08:26:19 <Sicelo> yeah .. i will never own it myself
Oct 18 08:27:41 <Sicelo> there'll be multitouch? /me checks again
Oct 18 08:28:38 <ButtButts> it has some fancy resistive tech
Oct 18 08:28:59 <ButtButts> I think two simultaneous inputs is what it can
Oct 18 08:29:15 <Sicelo> nice. just saw 
Oct 18 08:29:27 <ButtButts> enough for pinching gestures
Oct 18 08:29:37 <Sicelo> i thought they were reusing the complete TS panel .. guess i got it wrong
Oct 18 21:55:34 <KotCzarny> darn. i'm out of irc for a few days and you hackers bomb the n900 with mainline devuan? i love you guys (and girls)
Oct 18 21:58:55 <L29Ah> > not gentoo
Oct 18 21:58:55 <L29Ah> :(
Oct 18 22:00:04 <KotCzarny> imo once there is working image/builder script, it will be trivial to make any distro
Oct 18 22:01:30 <L29Ah> yeah with a fresh kernel and glibc
Oct 18 22:04:22 <KotCzarny> http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1b/1bfaa8d6034d169e4c40f6e64bce29dfb7d7cf477ea04e4b5093c119f14865a7.jpg
Oct 18 22:04:24 <KotCzarny> ;)
Oct 18 22:16:25 <KotCzarny> oh wow.. maemo app with in-app ads o.O
Oct 18 22:20:47 <_maniac_> Hi again, I don't remember if I asked this before (or what answer did I recieve if any), but is there a TOTP application for maemo?
Oct 18 22:21:02 <KotCzarny> what's totp?
Oct 18 22:21:05 <_maniac_> for google authenticator and the likes
Oct 18 22:21:17 <_maniac_> time based one-time password
Oct 18 22:22:35 <kerio> _maniac_: ye
Oct 18 22:22:41 <kerio> it's called OTP in the repos
Oct 18 22:22:46 <kerio> it doesn't have a qr scanner
Oct 18 22:23:05 <kerio> you have to manually convert the base32 code into hex to use it
Oct 18 22:23:14 <KotCzarny> o.O
Oct 18 22:24:20 <_maniac_> oh, ok, I'll try it
Oct 18 22:24:24 <_maniac_> thank you kerio
Oct 18 22:24:41 <Sicelo> 07:16 < KotCzarny> oh wow.. maemo app with in-app ads o.O
Oct 18 22:24:44 <Sicelo> which?
Oct 18 22:24:54 <KotCzarny> some timer app
Oct 18 22:26:53 <Wizzup> isn't totp like 20 lines of code?
Oct 18 22:27:17 <KotCzarny> wizzup, someone has to write them and package the result
Oct 18 22:28:03 <_maniac_> yeah, it isn't that hard, that's why I was surprised I didn't find any
Oct 18 22:48:07 <_maniac_> ok, I didn't find it because it isn't in HAM
Oct 18 22:53:02 <KotCzarny> ham doesnt show all categories afair
Oct 18 22:54:29 <KotCzarny> Section: unknown
Oct 18 22:54:38 <KotCzarny> could be the reason not showing up in ham
Oct 18 22:59:14 <_maniac_> any way to make it do that? I heard of something called 'red pill mode', but I think that isn't relevant anymore.
Oct 18 22:59:33 <KotCzarny> just use apt-get
Oct 18 22:59:48 <KotCzarny> i guess it was made that way because it has no gui
Oct 18 23:00:12 <KotCzarny> or maintainer didnt add a recognizable section
Oct 18 23:01:33 <KotCzarny> yeah. section: unknown in source control file
Oct 18 23:09:16 <_maniac_> I already did install it, it seems to work. And it has a gui.
Oct 18 23:10:46 <KotCzarny> should be reported to a maintainer
Oct 18 23:11:21 <KotCzarny> (but it's 5 years since last update)
Oct 19 00:58:21 * Oksana is looking for BOM stations db for OMweather https://github.com/Meecast/meecast/tree/master/omweather-bom-gov-au-stations-db Where is the debian package?
Oct 19 01:02:19 <Oksana> Hmm, and why does http://maemo.openrepos.net/vasvlad/ not work? http://harmattan.openrepos.net/vasvlad/ works fine
Oct 19 01:18:35 <ds3> is there a packaged up Maemo environment to run N900 apps on other devices with just plain X?
Oct 19 01:33:03 <Oksana> ds3: Xephyr should be helpful, I think. http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_SDK
Oct 19 01:34:49 <ds3> can I install debs in that environment?
Oct 19 01:37:31 <Oksana> I think so. Not sure. Haven't developed for some time, and when I did, I mostly used N900 itself for testing, so not much experience with Xephyer.
Oct 19 01:37:36 <Oksana> Xephyr*
Oct 19 01:38:15 * Oksana used to use MADDE on Windows XP
Oct 19 01:39:39 <Oksana> http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE
Oct 19 01:41:26 <Oksana> http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE/Device_runtime#More_commands
Oct 19 02:03:40 <ds3> been wanting a Maemo mode to run apps on other mobile devices
Oct 19 02:07:17 <ds3> hmmm no sources to adapt it
Oct 19 02:32:30 <Maxdamantus> Xephyr isn't the main thing there. It's just an X server that displays itself as a window in another X server.
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