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Oct 29 08:24:14 <marmistrz> Hi, back in 2012 there was a pool of 100 Nokia devices for the community. And 25 of them were devoted to a "Maemo hall of fame". Does anyone remember how it was called? Is there still anything on the wiki about it?
Oct 29 08:35:55 <jonwil> hi
Oct 29 09:37:34 <freemangordon> jonwil: hi!
Oct 29 09:38:00 <freemangordon> jonwil: look at https://github.com/community-ssu/osso-systemui :)
Oct 29 09:38:04 <jonwil> I am giving serious thought to entering this coding contest thing if I can figure out something to do :)
Oct 29 09:38:25 <freemangordon> there is supposed to be a wishlict
Oct 29 09:38:43 <freemangordon> *wishlist
Oct 29 09:39:32 <jonwil> Yeah there is but right now its only got 3 items, 2 of which are for SFOS (which I dont have and dont dev for)
Oct 29 09:40:03 <jonwil> The ROM manager thing isn't something I have any interest in either
Oct 29 09:40:26 <jonwil> I do have one idea though.
Oct 29 09:41:25 <jonwil> My local public transport agency provides a REST and SOAP API for accessing the journey planning system (so you can figure out how to get from a to b) and some Google GTFS and GTFS-realtime data for the actual system.
Oct 29 09:41:38 <jonwil> I am thinking of maybe writing an app for my N900 that uses these APIs
Oct 29 09:42:19 <jonwil> Their website was recently re-designed and the mobile site is now a lot less usable on the N900 browser so an app would be something I could use.
Oct 29 09:42:38 <jonwil> The other idea I had was some sort of to-do list/shopping list/general list type app
Oct 29 09:42:52 <jonwil> Something I could use to create a list of things I needed to do and tick them off as I did them.
Oct 29 09:43:01 <jonwil> Or a list of things I needed to buy and tick them off as I go around the shops
Oct 29 09:43:40 <jonwil> Or have lists of ingredients for recipes I like to cook and anytime I want to make one, I can easily see what I need to purchase at the shops to make it.
Oct 29 09:43:52 <freemangordon> jonwil: afaik there is already such application
Oct 29 09:44:23 <freemangordon> jonwil: so, you're no impressed on systemui source code?
Oct 29 09:44:34 <jonwil> I am still looking at it :)
Oct 29 09:44:50 <freemangordon> on/with? what is the correct on in English?
Oct 29 09:45:05 <freemangordon> *one
Oct 29 09:47:43 <jonwil> Nice one :)
Oct 29 09:47:47 <jonwil> you did good
Oct 29 09:49:03 <jonwil> anyhow if someone has already done a todo-list/shopping-list/whatever, no point in me making another one
Oct 29 09:49:25 <jonwil> But the public transport app for my local transport system (which I use all the time) is still something interesting I could do.
Oct 29 09:55:07 <marmistrz2> zHi, back in 2012 there was a pool of 100 Nokia devices for the community. And 25 of them were devoted to a "Maemo hall of fame". Does anyone remember how it was called?
Oct 29 09:56:36 <jonwil> Wouldn't it be great if this maemo contest (or something else) resulted in someone finishing the pulseaudio work... :P
Oct 29 09:58:14 <freemangordon> yeah :D
Oct 29 09:58:31 <jonwil> I definatly think entering the contest would be a good thing.
Oct 29 10:30:33 <marmistrz2> Found that: wiki.maemo.org/Community_Awards
Oct 29 10:33:48 <freemangordon> jonwil: may I have your IDA project of modechange? there is something suspicious I want to check
Oct 29 10:36:39 <jonwil> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9idqO9KygGsRUg2TVc3ZktVaFU/view?usp=sharing
Oct 29 10:36:42 <jonwil> That should be it
Oct 29 10:37:49 <freemangordon> hanks
Oct 29 10:37:52 <freemangordon> hmm
Oct 29 10:37:59 <freemangordon> *thanks
Oct 29 10:52:18 <jonwil> Any indication of anything that needs to be changed?
Oct 29 10:52:56 <freemangordon> jonwil: https://github.com/community-ssu/osso-systemui-modechange/blob/master/osso-systemui-modechange.c#L122
Oct 29 10:53:13 <freemangordon> data->unkwindow is never initialized
Oct 29 10:53:35 <jonwil> so whats the fix?
Oct 29 10:54:16 <freemangordon> jonwil: well, actually it is always NULL, see https://github.com/community-ssu/osso-systemui/blob/master/src/systemui.c#L416
Oct 29 10:54:28 <freemangordon> I what was the idea behind
Oct 29 10:54:40 <freemangordon> hmm, unless some other module initializes that
Oct 29 10:55:06 <jonwil> let me know if there are any changes to make to osso-systemui-modechange
Oct 29 10:56:36 <freemangordon> jonwil: sure, WindowPriority... functions take widget, not window
Oct 29 10:57:11 <freemangordon> actually I have to revert all of your recent changes :(
Oct 29 10:57:22 <jonwil> ok, do that then :)
Oct 29 10:57:32 <freemangordon> GTK_WINDOW() casts that is
Oct 29 11:07:14 <jonwil> let me know when you have fixed up osso-systemui-modechange :)
Oct 29 11:07:25 <freemangordon> ok
Oct 29 11:18:28 <freemangordon> jonwil: done
Oct 29 11:19:28 <jonwil> It wont compile
Oct 29 11:19:36 <jonwil> error: 'system_ui_data' has no member named 'parent'
Oct 29 11:19:40 <jonwil> wait let me try something
Oct 29 11:19:50 <freemangordon> jonwil: pull and build latest systemui
Oct 29 11:19:59 <freemangordon> and install -dev package ofc
Oct 29 11:20:22 <jonwil> yeah I see that
Oct 29 11:21:42 <jonwil> still not compiling
Oct 29 11:21:55 <freemangordon> what error?
Oct 29 11:21:56 <jonwil> I pulled latest osso-systemui-dev
Oct 29 11:21:58 <jonwil> and installed it
Oct 29 11:22:07 <jonwil> error: 'system_ui_data' has no member named 'parent'
Oct 29 11:22:08 <freemangordon> jonwil: no, pull osso-systemui
Oct 29 11:22:14 <jonwil> wait I did
Oct 29 11:22:22 <jonwil> I pulled osso-systemui and installed osso-systemui-dev from that
Oct 29 11:22:27 <jonwil> I am up-to-date on that
Oct 29 11:22:42 <freemangordon> https://github.com/community-ssu/osso-systemui/blob/master/src/systemui.h#L43
Oct 29 11:22:50 <jonwil> and I am up-to-date on osso-systemui-modechange
Oct 29 11:23:01 <freemangordon> I've just built it here
Oct 29 11:23:43 <jonwil> ok, I think I was installing the wrong -dev package
Oct 29 11:23:44 <jonwil> wrong version
Oct 29 11:23:47 <jonwil> I see the problem now
Oct 29 11:24:27 <jonwil> what confused me is that osso-systemui-dev used to be version 0.6 now osso-systemui is version 0.2.0.19
Oct 29 11:24:35 <freemangordon> yes, I know
Oct 29 11:24:42 <freemangordon> not much I can do
Oct 29 11:25:22 <jonwil> any changes need to be made to osso-systemui-powerkeymenu?
Oct 29 11:25:48 <freemangordon> yes, I am doing them ATM
Oct 29 11:26:27 <jonwil> ok
Oct 29 11:26:38 <jonwil> That looks to be the last one you need to fix I guess :)
Oct 29 11:26:53 <jonwil> since the other plugins have yet to be cloned
Oct 29 11:27:10 <freemangordon> yeah
Oct 29 11:27:45 <freemangordon> jonwil: powerkeymenu is ready
Oct 29 11:30:14 <freemangordon> ok, lets see if it still works :)
Oct 29 11:33:31 <freemangordon> jonwil: seems so
Oct 29 11:35:00 <jonwil> ok, looks like osso-systemui-modechange was the only updated one I was running on my phone so now I am running the new compile of that :)
Oct 29 11:36:27 <freemangordon> me too, on my devel device, will install it on everyday device in a while :)
Oct 29 11:37:58 <freemangordon> jonwil: there is a problem: "systemui_do_callback:53:Invalid callback"
Oct 29 11:38:10 <freemangordon> will have to fix it
Oct 29 11:38:12 <jonwil> in which one?
Oct 29 11:38:17 <jonwil> systemui? systemui-modechange?
Oct 29 11:38:20 <freemangordon> no idea, will attach gdb
Oct 29 11:38:23 <jonwil> ok
Oct 29 11:38:47 <jonwil> let me know if I need to rebuild systemui-modechange again (either because its changed or because systemui-dev changed)
Oct 29 11:40:09 <freemangordon> ok
Oct 29 11:55:28 <freemangordon> jonwil: is global data zero-initialized?
Oct 29 11:55:35 <jonwil> I dont know
Oct 29 12:05:52 <freemangordon> jonwil: can't reproduce it :(
Oct 29 12:09:21 <freemangordon> well, it might be some race condition, I dout it was introduced by our RE work
Oct 29 12:09:41 <freemangordon> anyway, I'll put an assert there to get a backtrace
Oct 29 12:09:51 <freemangordon> if it ever happens again
Oct 29 12:11:03 <jonwil> ok, great.
Oct 29 12:11:21 <jonwil> So for now no need to rebuild osso-systemui-modechange again :)
Oct 29 12:11:26 <freemangordon> yep
Oct 29 12:18:25 <jonwil> Just updated http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages with the systemui clone :)
Oct 29 12:19:22 <jonwil> So many things there I just wish I had the skills to reverse engineer :*
Oct 29 12:19:23 <jonwil> :(
Oct 29 12:28:46 <jonwil> Anyhow I think that writing an app for my transit system is a good thing for the developer contest
Oct 29 12:29:32 <jonwil> Doing any kind of system work is probably out of the question since I already determined that I am incapable of reverse engineering any of the things that are still closed source and that I have an interest in reverse engineering...
Oct 29 13:35:23 <freemangordon> Pali: oops :) https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/commit/661b8d7c4f8286dcdc8900c14f1f82a6c6bc73b3
Oct 29 19:11:47 <vectis3> hmm, I keep getting an error message saying that I cannot send or receive messages - device storage full. My rootfs is at 67% though.
Oct 29 19:12:10 <KotCzarny> check sqlite db
Oct 29 19:12:31 <KotCzarny> messages are stored in home dir
Oct 29 19:15:38 <vectis3> how would I check sqlite db? I recently deleted all messages to fix it, but it keeps returning
Oct 29 19:16:33 <KotCzarny> also, pastebin df output
Oct 29 19:21:24 <vectis3> http://pastebin.com/ZqaG8ZfZ
Oct 29 19:21:32 <KotCzarny> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7257
Oct 29 19:21:34 <povbot_> 04Bug 7257: New message gives "Device storage full. Remove data to free memory" with enough free space
Oct 29 19:21:36 <KotCzarny> it might be related
Oct 29 19:23:40 <KotCzarny> might be few possible causes, one being corrupted event db, and nother would be inode starvation (too many files)
Oct 29 20:25:48 <jonwil> hi
Oct 29 20:47:46 <CatButts> uhllo
Oct 29 20:59:00 <Pali> EHLO
Oct 29 20:59:17 <KotCzarny> hi ho
Oct 29 20:59:23 <Pali> hostname expected
Oct 29 20:59:24 <Pali> :D
Oct 29 20:59:49 <KotCzarny> dwarf protocol failed, expected hi ho
Oct 29 21:00:35 <Pali> 500 5.5.1 Command unrecognized
Oct 29 21:09:44 <freemangordon> Pali: hi! did you see the nasty bug in mce I fixed?
Oct 29 21:09:51 <Pali> yes
Oct 29 21:10:15 <freemangordon> Pali: also, we have osso-systemui REed :)
Oct 29 21:10:29 <Pali> I saw it on github, great!
Oct 29 21:10:39 <freemangordon> libdevlock to follow
Oct 29 21:22:22 <jonwil> Looks like I should probably compile the latest MCE and run it on my phone then :)
Oct 29 21:23:15 <jonwil> or is there more that needs to be done to MCE first (e.g. I notice there is no changelog for the fix yet)
Oct 29 22:11:32 <freemangordon> jonwil: there is...
Oct 29 22:11:47 <freemangordon> oh, wait, I didn;t push it :)
Oct 29 22:13:16 <freemangordon> jonwil: pushed. though you can install the new mce from cssu-devel
Oct 29 22:13:25 <jonwil> great :)
Oct 29 22:13:56 <freemangordon> jonwil: which mce version dooes run now?
Oct 29 22:14:08 <freemangordon> as if it is old enough you're not affected
Oct 29 22:21:17 <jonwil> going to update to the latest version :)
Oct 29 22:40:57 <bencoh> wow, neat (REed systemui) :)
Oct 29 23:13:53 <jonwil> Just updated maemo-security-certman to the latest mozilla root CA set (in case anyone actually cares about that)
Oct 29 23:22:21 <jonwil> and yes its great that osso-systemui has been reverse engineered :)
Oct 29 23:43:36 <jonwil> and its good to see more reverse engineering work is still going on (even if the things that would be most useful to reverse engineer seem not to be getting any attention :)
Oct 29 23:47:44 <jonwil> Still giving thought to what, if anything, I will do for the coding contest...
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