**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 09 03:00:02 2016 Dec 09 03:51:08 i'm trying to find the kubuntu mobile image that was supposed to be here - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-mobile/daily-preinstalled/current/ - but it's dead Dec 09 03:51:16 is this close? - http://neon.plasma-mobile.org/ - Dec 09 06:08:35 [6~ Dec 09 06:08:47 morning~ Dec 09 06:25:39 Hi all! In the vm image osso-xterm is missing, I asked a few hours ago but disconnected. which repository should I add? :) Dec 09 07:03:42 gry: try the one in cssu repo Dec 09 07:03:59 git repo that is. then build it Dec 09 09:35:56 http://wstaw.org/m/2016/12/09/plasma-desktopR17764.png morning and hi! Dec 09 10:58:04 freemangordon: you mean I could get osso-xterm through git clone and compile it, not through apt? Dec 09 11:35:51 gry: you want to run xterm in the maemo emulation? why? Dec 09 11:36:36 * DocScrutinizer05 isn't sure but can't help thinking that the maemo emu is semi pointless Dec 09 11:43:30 possibly useful for checking GUI aspects Dec 09 11:56:26 Annual leave. Dec 09 12:08:45 DocScrutinizer05, just the maemo terminal Dec 09 12:09:52 emu is indeed semi pointless, but it's the best I could think of for making a new app for hildon Dec 09 12:35:17 making yes, testing nope Dec 09 12:45:24 particularly cmli programs probably don't profit from testing them in qemu which doesn't have any (or most) of the N900 specific subsystems and thus APIs, and the rest is pretty much CPU/system agnostic, e.g. a htop would look 100% identical under maemo emu in xterm and under an arbitrary (x86-)debian in an arbitrary shell/terminal, aiui Dec 09 12:45:50 .s/cmli/cli/ Dec 09 12:48:35 so I'd develop under native x86, then I'd use sb for building but not for testing and rather test on target aka N900 Dec 09 12:49:33 but I must admit that I never actually *did* that, so maybe take this with a grain of salt, I might well not be aware of some aspects Dec 09 12:53:54 and actually AIUI(!) the maemo "emu" is based on x86 code, that's why you can't simply install all stuff to it like you could on N900 Dec 09 12:54:53 so when there's no osso-xterm, then maybe nobody thought it's useful or needed for anything so far Dec 09 12:55:24 which would be a point supporting my rationale above Dec 09 13:54:11 Hallo Dec 09 13:55:40 Hey do you know if there is a way to have a wifi hotspot without powerkernel ? Dec 09 13:55:57 (n900) Dec 09 13:57:18 I cant install qt mobilehotspot and theotherone without and idont know what powerkernel i should use and wher toget therightone Dec 09 13:57:58 Help please :) Dec 09 13:58:18 :( Dec 09 13:58:25 :) Dec 09 14:00:11 I just have this shity nokia windows software and the bluetooth connection wich sucks and also does not work anymore becouse ithink the bluetooth stack or driver from the old nokiasuite whichonly provides it under windows atleast with the n900 Dec 09 14:00:26 why can't you install qtmobilehotspot Dec 09 14:00:34 and why can't you install powerkernel Dec 09 14:00:49 It needs powerkernel and idonthave and dontknow how andfromwhere Dec 09 14:01:16 There are somony itseems Dec 09 14:01:21 Imconfused Dec 09 14:01:25 look at the wiki, gandalf Dec 09 14:01:31 It contains all the info you need Dec 09 14:01:38 start with cssu if you don't have it yet Dec 09 14:01:46 Which wiki exactly please Dec 09 14:01:55 * Wizzup wats Dec 09 14:02:14 just look at the topic... Dec 09 14:02:33 Ihave cssu but also dont know whatversion or ifihave actualzy repos Dec 09 14:02:44 you also have a broken space bar Dec 09 14:05:07 Is there a save way to get some powerkernel or isthere a hotspot app foer maemo that does notneedone ? Dec 09 14:05:46 Sory for the inconvinience Dec 09 14:06:34 And i have a big problem ithin with my packetmanager and all repos lm Dec 09 14:06:52 Sounds like that is something you should fix. Dec 09 14:07:50 Where is THE BEST MOST COMPLETE MOST AKTUAL n900 repo page ? Dec 09 14:08:08 Thatworks for a longer period Dec 09 14:09:25 And does someone here know if the android on n900 project is working now with wifi and phone funtionality Dec 09 14:10:18 Usable Dec 09 14:10:51 Help wy does the neo900 have to be so expensive Dec 09 14:12:47 ~wmo Dec 09 14:12:47 i guess wmo is http://wiki.maemo.org Dec 09 14:12:57 ~kp Dec 09 14:12:58 rumour has it, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 Dec 09 14:13:52 because it's a bespoke device and not a lot of people have ordered one Dec 09 14:14:28 larger numbers would have reduced production costs I imagine. Dec 09 14:15:21 If you can answer more verbosely why installing KP is a problem maybe someone can help Dec 09 14:22:14 2.6.28.10 bfs and bootimage are the only powerkernels on my manager ... Where is this new version v.53 ? Dec 09 14:26:31 ~repos Dec 09 14:26:32 hmm... repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos Dec 09 14:26:38 ~maemo-repos Dec 09 14:26:39 maemo-repos is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Dec 09 15:01:50 in extras somewhere Dec 09 15:04:57 fladnag900: you need power kernel. no getting around that. Dec 09 16:18:56 ~jrrepo Dec 09 16:19:15 ~jr-repo Dec 09 16:19:18 grr Dec 09 16:19:38 ~listkeys'cloud-7 Dec 09 16:19:44 ~listkeys cloud-7 Dec 09 16:19:46 Factoid search of 'cloud-7' by key returned no results. Dec 09 16:19:56 sigh Dec 09 16:20:29 ~jrrepos Dec 09 16:20:29 jrrepos is probably http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ Dec 09 16:24:15 ~repos Dec 09 16:24:15 somebody said repos was "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos Dec 09 17:38:20 i've installed bfs a long time ago but to this day airodump complains about not proper sysfs injection. monitor mode doesn't seem to work properly either, it remains connected to my ap even after activation Dec 09 17:47:30 ~pkg Dec 09 17:47:30 extra, extra, read all about it, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ Dec 09 17:48:33 i think i've got it, removing uboot-pr13 > installing the other uboot package > installing power or bfs kernel on top Dec 09 17:48:34 http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-flasher/ 0.53 Dec 09 17:49:40 that's the one Dec 09 17:52:59 huh, that's weird. about to flash power kernel, and it says the old one is u-boot 2013.4 versus 2.6.28.10-power53 Dec 09 17:53:54 waiting this one out Dec 09 18:00:13 looks safe from what i've read so far Dec 09 18:01:51 uboot's gone T_T Dec 09 18:07:54 i'm only left with bootmenu at this point and das u-boot appears to be installed, power kernel has been flashed Dec 09 18:37:07 ~uboot Dec 09 18:37:08 N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 Dec 09 18:38:26 Ah yes I recall it being removed intentionally Dec 09 19:23:17 going to my campus, i'll get back on this when i'm back **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 10 03:00:00 2016