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Dec 19 03:07:51 <DocScrutinizer05> ohmy
Dec 19 03:14:00 <Maxdamantus> volty
Dec 19 04:04:56 <recharged> >“I don’t wish any harm to him, but I’m angry. I’m hurt and I just want to know why,” Melinda Wright said.
Dec 19 04:04:58 <recharged> >“I don’t wish any harm to him, but I’m angry. I’m hurt and I just want to know why,” Melinda Wright said.
Dec 19 04:04:59 <recharged> >“I don’t wish any harm to him, but I’m angry. I’m hurt and I just want to know why,” Melinda Wright said.
Dec 19 04:05:02 <recharged> white guilt
Dec 19 13:26:45 <how900> ouch... Getting gpg error for maemo.muarf.org key expired.
Dec 19 13:27:20 <KotCzarny> nokia repos mirror uses nokia gpg keys, expected and unsolvable
Dec 19 13:27:30 <how900> oh
Dec 19 13:40:31 <bencoh> and I highly doubt you want me to resign every nokia package ;)
Dec 19 14:06:06 <CraigEr_> Hi folks, I'm very late to this party but I found a boxed N810 at a carboot sale at the weekend, and I'm getting my first feel of Maemo. I was just wondering if the volume up/down buttons not working was a common fault? and can it be caused in software rather than hardware?
Dec 19 14:06:13 <CraigEr_> (sorry of this is the wrong channel(
Dec 19 14:07:23 <CraigEr_> If it makes any difference, the first thing I did with the device was flashed: RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Dec 19 14:13:42 <Vajb> CraigEr_: this is right channel, i think. I have no idea of ur problem, but probably in an few hours time someone knowledgeable enough will answer.
Dec 19 14:14:26 <CraigEr_> thanks Vajb, I'll hang around and see if anyone suggests anything. I was tempted to flash an older release bin file to see if it's software related
Dec 19 14:38:17 <CraigEr_> for extra info if anyone comes along to help: it appears the 'swap' button beside the volume buttons is non-functional too, power button is fine, lock switch is fine, just volume and swap not working (the other swap button works fine).
Dec 19 14:53:27 <CraigEr_> and last update (sorry), definitely not software specific, just downgraded to the first firmware, same issue, flashed back to the most recent DIABLO release. Also just noticed that too boot to the USB/Flash mode, I can only use the swap button on the front of the phone and not the side one, so I'm leaning towards a hardware fault that is affecting volume buttons and the swap button beside the volume controls.
Dec 19 14:55:11 <bencoh> I have no idea how those buttons are connected/driven on n810/diablo but I'd start having by having a look at dmesg and/or /dev/input/
Dec 19 15:14:25 <CraigEr_> thanks, I'll have a poke around when I'm home tonight to see if I'm detecting any input from the buttons
Dec 19 15:14:49 <CraigEr_> the not being able to boot to the flashing mode using the side swap button is maybe pointing me to thinking it's hardware
Dec 19 15:15:40 <KotCzarny> so, your unlock slider broke?
Dec 19 15:15:51 <KotCzarny> but other buttons work?
Dec 19 15:16:06 <CraigEr_> no sorry what I'm seeing is:
Dec 19 15:16:11 <CraigEr_> Unlock slider works fine
Dec 19 15:16:14 <CraigEr_> power button works fine
Dec 19 15:16:27 <CraigEr_> Volume buttons dont, neither does the 'swap' button beside the volume keys
Dec 19 15:16:34 <CraigEr_> the swap button on the front of the phone works properly
Dec 19 15:16:51 <KotCzarny> also, is this n900 ?
Dec 19 15:16:55 <CraigEr_> 801
Dec 19 15:17:01 <CraigEr_> 810
Dec 19 15:17:14 <KotCzarny> 810 is not a phone, but a nit (nokia internet tablet) or just tablet
Dec 19 15:17:25 <CraigEr_> yeh, I know
Dec 19 15:18:08 <CraigEr_> sorry I'm slipping 'phone' into descriptions of the problem :)
Dec 19 15:19:36 <KotCzarny> i dont remember how keys are connected on n8x0
Dec 19 15:19:54 <CraigEr_> That's my issue, I think I might do a tear down and have a look
Dec 19 15:20:06 <KotCzarny> you might check some service manuals
Dec 19 15:20:23 <CraigEr_> I've been following a lot of dead links for info (no surprise in 2016...)
Dec 19 15:20:58 <CraigEr_> just found a service manual
Dec 19 15:21:12 <KotCzarny> http://www.s-manuals.com/manuals/phone/nokia/nokia_n810_rx-44_service_manual-34_v1.pdf
Dec 19 15:21:19 <CraigEr_> :) exactly where I am
Dec 19 15:22:31 <CraigEr_> looks pretty easy to get into compared to some more modern devices at least...
Dec 19 15:22:59 <KotCzarny> see page 4-16
Dec 19 15:23:02 <CraigEr_> and it does look like all the top buttons share the same flex assembly - so I'll have a look tonight for anything obvious 
Dec 19 15:23:13 <KotCzarny> or page 86 in normal notation
Dec 19 15:23:56 <KotCzarny> volume keys are 'zoom keys'
Dec 19 15:24:23 <KotCzarny> 'check top flex' and connector x4300
Dec 19 15:25:08 <KotCzarny> so, according to this its in 'full screen', 'zoom' and lock' keys
Dec 19 15:25:12 <CraigEr_> yeh I see that, and one of the other two manuals has some nice disassembley pictures, gives me a little project tonight
Dec 19 15:29:34 <CraigEr_> oh that's interesting... When I power the phone on and set the volume to max (via the touch screen and stylus) - when I use the volume keys, I can actually hear the software 'click' noise being made
Dec 19 15:30:49 <CraigEr_> ok, let me just confirm these buttons are supposes to control volume
Dec 19 15:31:02 <CraigEr_> as I've just spotted they work (zoom function) in the browser...
Dec 19 15:32:02 <CraigEr_> I may just have us all on a wild goose chase
Dec 19 15:32:21 <KotCzarny> no worries, at least your hw is fine
Dec 19 15:33:53 <CraigEr_> yeh I'm a happy camper 
Dec 19 15:34:03 <CraigEr_> Picked it up yesterday for £8...
Dec 19 15:34:24 <KotCzarny> nice, if you want a nice console player check out my oscp
Dec 19 15:34:38 <KotCzarny> (shameless self promotion)
Dec 19 15:34:38 <CraigEr_> got a link?
Dec 19 15:34:45 <KotCzarny> ~oscp
Dec 19 15:34:45 <infobot> methinks oscp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590
Dec 19 15:35:25 <CraigEr_> nice!
Dec 19 15:35:53 <CraigEr_> I like that your remote supports winamp skins
Dec 19 15:35:54 <CraigEr_> :
Dec 19 15:35:55 <CraigEr_> @)
Dec 19 15:36:07 <CraigEr_> ^^ two poor attempts at :)
Dec 19 15:36:17 <KotCzarny> graphics redrawing (time, posbar) eat battery though ;)
Dec 19 15:37:19 <CraigEr_> I'll be firing through maemo.org for software tonight
Dec 19 15:49:17 <Vajb> what was the cooamnd to take screenshot in n900?
Dec 19 15:49:25 <Vajb> command*
Dec 19 15:49:55 <CraigEr_> Control-Shift-P
Dec 19 15:50:09 <sixwheeledbeast> Ctrl+Shift +P
Dec 19 15:50:23 <CraigEr_> dumping file into /home/user/MyDocs/.images/Screenshots
Dec 19 15:50:53 <sixwheeledbeast> :nod:
Dec 19 15:55:32 <Vajb> right. So i was right at the first place, but it seems that snag.gy doesn't work on maemo :)
Dec 19 16:27:05 <sixwheeledbeast> You need to get it into the clipboard somehow
Dec 19 16:29:14 <sixwheeledbeast> Maybe try wstaw.org instead?
Dec 19 16:29:21 <Vajb> i suppose that is not possible in maemo :)
Dec 19 16:29:34 <Vajb> i tried imgurl, but it didn't install cleanly
Dec 19 16:29:44 <KotCzarny> everything is possible, you just need proper software
Dec 19 16:30:02 <sixwheeledbeast> you can use hamster filer or the like I believe that has copy paste
Dec 19 16:30:26 <KotCzarny> write a tiny script that would watch your directory for changes via dnotify or something and copy things to clipboard or upload them
Dec 19 16:30:29 <KotCzarny> or something
Dec 19 16:30:33 <Vajb> oh, i have hamsterfiler, lets see
Dec 19 16:35:26 <Vajb> doesn't seem to work
Dec 19 16:35:51 <sixwheeledbeast> maybe it's a seperate clipboard not the "system" one
Dec 19 16:36:17 <Vajb> or maemo clipboard is not supported by the page
Dec 19 16:36:44 <Vajb> qml browser seemed to be only browser that loaded the page at least
Dec 19 16:39:04 <sixwheeledbeast> Images has a share via service, I don't suppose anybody has uploaded something to extras that uses this?
Dec 19 16:39:30 <KotCzarny> we need imgur sharing plugin
Dec 19 16:39:38 <KotCzarny> the best img service in the world
Dec 19 16:39:53 <Vajb> there is imgurl sharing plugin, but it didn't instal cleanly
Dec 19 16:40:05 <Vajb> i think it was in extras devel
Dec 19 16:40:19 <KotCzarny> maybe api changes since the first version
Dec 19 16:40:45 <KotCzarny> *changed
Dec 19 16:42:11 <Vajb> it showed up in sharing plugin list, but apt whined that it is broken
Dec 19 16:42:29 <Vajb> i'll try it tomorrow again
Dec 19 16:42:40 <KotCzarny> if you know c, you may try to fix it
Dec 19 16:42:50 <KotCzarny> or contact the author?
Dec 19 16:42:54 <Vajb> i know the letter...
Dec 19 16:43:53 <Vajb> oh well back to work
Dec 19 16:53:25 <KotCzarny> if it doesnt explode, sure
Dec 19 21:07:40 <ulyaoth> Hello!
Dec 19 21:56:08 <Vajb> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file or directory
Dec 19 21:56:11 <Vajb> dpkg: error processing imgur (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Dec 19 21:56:26 <Vajb> this is the error i got when trying to install imgur
Dec 19 21:56:57 <Vajb> imgur appears in share dialog tho, but is not working
Dec 19 22:15:32 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crash-christmas-market-live :-/
Dec 19 22:27:54 <Vajb> ok got it to install cleanly when i installed bash first, but it is still not working. I guess it is the api issue then.
Dec 19 22:28:19 <Vajb> bbl time to sleep anyways
Dec 19 23:34:43 <sixwheeledbeast> ~pkg
Dec 19 23:34:44 <infobot> pkg is probably http://maemo.org/packages/
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