**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 22 03:00:00 2016
Dec 22 15:26:26 <DocScrutinizer05> hey folks, the hackers of you might be interested in details about ECI: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/  ECI*
Dec 22 18:28:50 <newbieAlert> Hello, chroot inside SFOS is not working. I have copied /etc/resolv.conf to chroot. Chroot is able to ping devices over wifi but not over internet. Any solution, please help. 
Dec 22 19:31:40 <Vajb> im starting to get pretty sure that the guy who maintains imgur program isn't going to make it work again. Last update on github is from 2011 and it's been 4 days since i emailed him.
Dec 22 19:57:48 <sicelo> Vajb: fix it yourself? :)
Dec 22 19:59:40 <Vajb> sicelo: i would if it were some mechanical device like car engine, but with these languages i can barely read (not understand) im lost
Dec 22 20:00:43 <KotCzarny> motivate/pay someone to do it?
Dec 22 20:00:51 <KotCzarny> make a thread on tmo?
Dec 22 20:02:37 <KotCzarny> teach your kids c and make them do it?
Dec 22 20:05:33 <Vajb> 1. I've dealed without till now. I think i'll manage still. 2. Good idea, but i thought this is the source of most instant replies. 3. I don't have kids and im not planning to have them and probably our cats wouldn't learn. 4 thanks for good ideas, but sorry that i ruled them all down. Merry xmass nevertheless :)
Dec 22 20:06:39 <Vajb> hmm and i think it should be dealt.
Dec 22 20:06:41 <KotCzarny> i would've done it, but i'm not using n900 as a sharing device
Dec 22 20:07:11 <KotCzarny> it should be easy though
Dec 22 20:07:12 <Vajb> well me neither since yappari died
Dec 22 20:07:44 <Vajb> i can still upload to facedesk via web uploader
Dec 22 20:07:54 <KotCzarny> try nudging me in the nearest days, maybe i'll take a look
Dec 22 20:08:33 <Vajb> sure
Dec 22 20:09:14 <Vajb> and besides who knows if i just happened to pick a week to mail when maintainer is having his well earned holiday in thailand
Dec 22 20:09:46 <KotCzarny> 5 years is a lot in IT
Dec 22 20:10:22 <Vajb> i still use a computer that i bought 2001 ;)
Dec 22 20:11:26 <KotCzarny> i love old thinkpads
Dec 22 20:11:32 <KotCzarny> currently on t500
Dec 22 20:12:52 <KotCzarny> and the best part? its faster than many new ones, and 10x cheaper
Dec 22 20:13:50 <Vajb> what os r u running on them?
Dec 22 20:14:22 <KotCzarny> slackware and win7_64
Dec 22 20:14:54 <Vajb> other box i use it old acer aspire 5315 laptop and for last week i've struggled to fix windows vista update problem
Dec 22 20:15:20 <KotCzarny> uh, oh, you've used impossible combination 'fix, vista'
Dec 22 20:15:49 <Vajb> hmm i think those t500 r a bit sophisticated than this old "price starting from" model...
Dec 22 20:16:04 <KotCzarny> i bought it used for ~60usd
Dec 22 20:16:34 <Vajb> well my gf got this brand new ten years ago :D
Dec 22 20:17:25 <Vajb> and recently she bought a new laptop and i scavenged this old rotten corpse of a laptop
Dec 22 20:18:03 <KotCzarny> you should definitely check fo used good condition thinkpads (t6X or t500)
Dec 22 20:18:15 <KotCzarny> acers werent know for build quality ;)
Dec 22 20:18:41 <KotCzarny> drat. too many typos. *known
Dec 22 20:19:28 <KotCzarny> or x series if you like them more portable
Dec 22 20:20:12 <Vajb> yeah i've had my share of this acer and i would gladly smash it to pieces...
Dec 22 20:20:20 <KotCzarny> :>
Dec 22 20:20:48 <KotCzarny> i've had one thinkpad (that was made by acer really), i1300, hated it a bit too
Dec 22 20:21:22 <Vajb> i once tried linux livecd on this and it failed miserably. Now i've learnt why it did, but still am kinda lazy to fix it and switch coz i need some stuff which works only in windows :/
Dec 22 20:21:59 <KotCzarny> ever heard of virtualbox? assuming it's cpu has some vt extensions
Dec 22 20:22:50 <Vajb> no, and it was something to do with cpu fan not working without some special signal somewhere
Dec 22 20:23:05 <APic> http://www.qemu-advent-calendar.org/2016/
Dec 22 20:23:17 <Vajb> i vaguely remember something like that...
Dec 22 20:25:04 <sicelo-> KotCzarny: my X40 is showing its age ... but now i'm converted to Thinkpad too ... if I get a laptop near future, it's definitely going to be a TP
Dec 22 20:25:26 <sicelo-> but the T are huge :-/
Dec 22 20:25:31 <KotCzarny> i still use my x40 (with msata samsung pm830 ssd)
Dec 22 20:25:52 <KotCzarny> sicelo, huge == big screen, good for big amount of code at once on the screen ;)
Dec 22 20:26:07 <KotCzarny> for portability there is x series as you mentioned
Dec 22 20:26:12 <Vajb> well if im about to log in to facebook i rather do it in n900 than in that acer
Dec 22 20:26:14 <KotCzarny> t was meant for productivity
Dec 22 20:26:46 <Vajb> and if im about to check some video from youtube i rather use ps3 than any computer i've used
Dec 22 20:26:47 <sicelo-> that problem with hibernation is still giving me a difficult time on the x40, and my cardbus USB adapter is suddenly not working, and i suspect the x40 is actually at fault, not the card itself
Dec 22 20:27:57 <sicelo-> and X230 seems nice .. but still pricey 
Dec 22 20:28:00 <KotCzarny> i also have x60 and x61 and t61 and 560x and 760l
Dec 22 20:28:59 <KotCzarny> but x40 is very nice midpoint for a console/firefox
Dec 22 20:29:10 <sicelo-> i love it to bits :)
Dec 22 20:29:16 <sicelo-> very practical little machine
Dec 22 20:29:23 <KotCzarny> yes, very cool too
Dec 22 20:29:28 <KotCzarny> and slim and sexy
Dec 22 20:29:35 <sicelo-> +1
Dec 22 20:30:04 <KotCzarny> and with ultra slow hdd changed to ssd it just flies
Dec 22 20:30:12 <KotCzarny> (as much as single core can fly)
Dec 22 20:31:06 <sicelo-> yes it's got ssd, and for my purposes is super fast. i'm completely satisfied with it 
Dec 22 20:48:51 <Vajb> ebay.de wants to sell me t500 @150e basically
Dec 22 20:53:44 <KotCzarny> nah, look for your local classifieds sites
Dec 22 20:53:50 <KotCzarny> from your city etc
Dec 22 20:53:56 <sicelo-> looks like local sites here are giving similar price for me .. if that's Euro
Dec 22 20:54:17 <KotCzarny> hum, too pricy then
Dec 22 20:54:40 <KotCzarny> it makes sense when they are <100 eur
Dec 22 20:55:29 <KotCzarny> just browse ads eevery week for a deal
Dec 22 20:56:02 <Vajb> well if i look my local sales they r +100e for ebay.de...
Dec 22 20:56:55 <Vajb> but t500 with any hw is worth less than 100e?
Dec 22 20:57:28 <Vajb> i'll keep that in mind and keep my debit card ready
Dec 22 20:57:29 <KotCzarny> depends. its worth as much as you can value it. im just saying you can get a better deal
Dec 22 20:58:20 <KotCzarny> and yeah, they come in diff. configs, i've grabbed mine with radeon 3650
Dec 22 20:58:22 <KotCzarny> :)
Dec 22 20:58:45 <KotCzarny> and p8600 (2.4ghz)
Dec 22 20:59:01 <Vajb> well used laptop for over 100e is total overkill for me
Dec 22 20:59:31 <sicelo-> especially as you'll more than likely have to get a battery as well
Dec 22 20:59:46 <Vajb> i was offered asus g75vw with 700e, one year old
Dec 22 20:59:47 <KotCzarny> you know, those good deals won't last long usually
Dec 22 20:59:50 <Wizzup> I got some x200 laptops for around 100 eur
Dec 22 20:59:56 <Wizzup> librebooted them
Dec 22 21:00:40 <Vajb> well im fast to buy when i have target clear in my mind
Dec 22 21:00:42 <KotCzarny> o, steam winter salee
Dec 22 21:00:52 <KotCzarny> (wrong channel. ugh)
Dec 22 21:01:36 <sunshavi>  then i want an x220.  But  shipping is almost 50 bucks to south america ;)
Dec 22 21:01:50 <Vajb> well why wouldn't "steaming winter sale" make sence with laptops too :)
Dec 22 21:05:34 <Wizzup> sunshavi: x220 doesn't do libreboot though
Dec 22 21:08:43 <sicelo-> x200 is 200EUR here .. steep
Dec 22 21:08:52 <sicelo-> x220 i mean
Dec 22 21:09:03 <KotCzarny> its intel core though
Dec 22 21:09:05 <KotCzarny> i think
Dec 22 21:09:10 <KotCzarny> i5 probably
Dec 22 21:09:47 <Vajb> KotCzarny: if u make working imgur client for n900 i promise to share my cats photos. One of them is KotCzarny ;)
Dec 22 21:09:56 <KotCzarny> :)
Dec 22 21:10:25 <sicelo-> ah, it comes with docking station too, seemingly 
Dec 22 21:13:00 <Vajb> bbl nite all
Dec 22 21:13:07 <KotCzarny> nite nite
Dec 22 21:18:26 <sunshavi> vajb: that's a good offer for kotczarny
Dec 22 21:19:01 <sunshavi> sicelo: on the past i have found one unit on USA without hdd and battery for almost 100 bucks
Dec 22 21:19:26 <sunshavi> kotczarny: It is i5 and 12h battery life
Dec 22 21:20:17 <sunshavi> sicelo: x220 even has a manual for disassembly. it was the last of his type
Dec 22 21:26:30 <sicelo-> i will be on the lookout for an x220 for sure. the size is good
Dec 22 21:27:14 <sicelo-> that one for sale is actually a good deal, considering the dock goes with it .. but am broke atm .. perfect timing
Dec 22 21:33:02 <sunshavi> sicelo: which one is ur continent?
Dec 22 21:33:38 <sunshavi> how much is the shipping to there?. also
Dec 22 21:37:01 <sicelo-> Africa .. I'm actually in South Africa. shipping tends to be costly in general
Dec 22 21:40:17 <sunshavi> sicelo: then we are in the same situation. ;)
Dec 22 21:51:06 <sunshavi> sicelo: I am interested on the x220 also. who knows perhaps you would get one unit before than me
Dec 22 21:52:32 <sicelo-> :)
Dec 22 23:09:43 <DocScrutinizer05> http://neo900.org/stuff/joerg/ECI/  with full 12Mpts init log (rigol.wfm)
Dec 23 01:20:00 <_maniac_> rip my n900, left as temporary pawn for taxi driver who just sprinted off without waiting for money.
Dec 23 01:20:24 <_maniac_> I guess he'll enjoy my gentoo chroot there.
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