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Dec 26 09:29:48 <DocScrutinizer51> merry xmess
Dec 26 09:30:09 <L29Ah> allahu akbar
Dec 26 09:32:40 <DocScrutinizer51> L29Ah: watch out! Sigyn is in here!
Dec 26 10:38:34 <kerio> DocScrutinizer51: HAPPY EASTER JOERGY! ^-^
Dec 26 10:39:11 <DocScrutinizer51> ta :D
Dec 26 10:39:35 <kerio> what did santa bring you this year
Dec 26 10:39:57 <DocScrutinizer51> nervous breakdown
Dec 26 10:40:06 <kerio> other than the deaths of the red army choir and george michael, apparently
Dec 26 10:40:12 <kerio> nice
Dec 26 10:40:17 <kerio> fuck 2016
Dec 26 10:41:50 <DocScrutinizer51> and the realization that it took me only 8 years to optimize my complete live into total fail from overoptimaization
Dec 26 10:42:05 <DocScrutinizer51> life*
Dec 26 10:43:05 <kerio> :(
Dec 26 10:43:35 <DocScrutinizer51> to put it simpler: once you managed to be 24/7 online, you'll notice that more time doesn't mean more productive time
Dec 26 10:44:38 <bencoh> true
Dec 26 10:45:03 <Wizzup> For me, it's mostly IRC, and it's not that hard to simply don't open that screen/tmux
Dec 26 10:45:12 <Wizzup> or run several irc clients :) 
Dec 26 10:45:34 <kerio> Wizzup: you can compress the irc time if you have an always-online client, anyway
Dec 26 10:52:35 <Wizzup> kerio: that I do
Dec 26 11:32:49 <KotCzarny> or see irc window in the bottom part of the screen and notice the highlights
Dec 26 11:32:56 <KotCzarny> and ignore everything else
Dec 26 11:40:01 <sixwheeledbeast> I got a nervous breakdown this year too, they must have been on sale.
Dec 26 11:40:31 <KotCzarny> throw all the fucks you could give away and live your life wholeheartedly
Dec 26 11:49:18 <sixwheeledbeast> If only it where that easy....
Dec 26 11:49:44 <KotCzarny> it is
Dec 26 11:49:57 <KotCzarny> once you sort out what's not really needed
Dec 26 11:58:24 <merlin1991> like money ;)
Dec 26 12:06:04 <Vajb> and sleep
Dec 26 12:15:07 <KotCzarny> sure, money, but how MUCH money?
Dec 26 12:15:22 <KotCzarny> as for sleep, prioritize
Dec 26 12:16:18 <KotCzarny> once a month? yes. more than 2 times a week? bad idea in the long run
Dec 26 12:17:04 <KotCzarny> bad idea == negative health/efficiency consequences outweigh short benefits
Dec 26 14:03:36 <KotCzarny> https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329762-700-consciousness-on-off-switch-discovered-deep-in-brain/#.U7dJq_ldWiV
Dec 26 14:03:47 <KotCzarny> yay for human zombies on demand
Dec 26 16:26:16 <Vajb> store visited. T420 with ssd asking 299e
Dec 26 16:26:50 <KotCzarny> :)
Dec 26 16:27:06 <KotCzarny> still better laptop than any you would get NEW in the supermarket
Dec 26 16:27:12 <KotCzarny> leaps and bounds better
Dec 26 16:28:42 <kerio> well i think you can get a macbook pro in supermarkets
Dec 26 16:28:48 <kerio> at least the big ones
Dec 26 16:28:51 <KotCzarny> for 300eur?
Dec 26 16:28:53 <kerio> with dedicated electronics departments
Dec 26 16:28:55 <kerio> ofc not
Dec 26 16:28:59 <KotCzarny> see?
Dec 26 16:29:07 <KotCzarny> we are talking 100-150eur range
Dec 26 16:29:32 <kerio> i spent more than that for a handheld videogame console :<
Dec 26 16:29:44 <KotCzarny> spolied brat
Dec 26 16:29:48 <KotCzarny> *spolied
Dec 26 16:29:49 <KotCzarny> drat.
Dec 26 16:29:52 <KotCzarny> *spoiled
Dec 26 16:31:42 <kerio> the new 3ds is a great console
Dec 26 16:32:17 <Vajb> yeah im looking for maximum performance with as little as possible
Dec 26 16:33:04 <kerio> KotCzarny: you should buy one ;o
Dec 26 16:33:09 <kerio> it's got mario
Dec 26 16:33:12 <kerio> and mario
Dec 26 16:33:18 <kerio> and zelda
Dec 26 16:33:18 <KotCzarny> i've got my banana
Dec 26 16:33:22 <kerio> *and* mario! :o
Dec 26 16:33:27 <KotCzarny> and banana
Dec 26 16:33:43 * CatButts scratches butt
Dec 26 16:37:18 <kerio> KotCzarny: also if you do some minorly questionable things, you can download games from nintendo's servers
Dec 26 16:37:20 <kerio> for free
Dec 26 16:38:07 <KotCzarny> my backlog of games on steam assures i shouldnt be bootlegging anything new soon
Dec 26 16:38:30 <kerio> (it's probably the last time nintendo puts the entirety of the authentication on the client side)
Dec 26 16:38:41 <KotCzarny> lol, seriously?
Dec 26 16:38:52 <kerio> i am not kidding
Dec 26 16:39:11 <kerio> once you get full access on the console itself
Dec 26 16:39:12 <KotCzarny> like, total real done and done seriously?
Dec 26 16:39:39 <kerio> you just need to acquire a 128 bit title-specific key
Dec 26 16:39:52 <KotCzarny> otoh nintendo always was more for players/fun than money grabbing (which is sad that money grabbers are doing better monetarily)
Dec 26 16:39:53 <kerio> and then you download the actual content from nintendo's CDN
Dec 26 16:40:27 <kerio> probably because putting the whole CDN behind authentication would make things too costly
Dec 26 16:56:40 <CatButts> too bad nintendo is anal about its IP
Dec 26 16:56:54 <KotCzarny> who isnt?
Dec 26 16:57:19 <CatButts> Nintendo is especially harsh
Dec 26 16:58:08 <KotCzarny> then i take my words back
Dec 26 16:58:11 <CatButts> hell, even Sega PR poked fun at Nintendo for bringing down fan games
Dec 26 17:19:06 <Pali> 0xFFFF 0.7 flasher and firmware generator was released! http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1521062#post1521062
Dec 26 17:20:45 <Vajb> oh yeah forgot to mention that that laptop came with backbag!
Dec 26 17:22:29 <KotCzarny> firmware generator?
Dec 26 17:22:38 <KotCzarny> as in flashable-fiasco-image generator?
Dec 26 17:40:36 <Pali> KotCzarny: yes, it can generate FIASCO files
Dec 26 17:40:48 <KotCzarny> yay!
Dec 26 17:40:57 <Pali> alternative to proprietary nokia binary fiasco-gen
Dec 26 17:41:09 <KotCzarny> wonderful world of custom maemo distros ahead us!
Dec 26 17:41:27 <Pali> also flasher, can flash via usb everything except mmc images to Nokia N900
Dec 26 17:41:37 <KotCzarny> shucks.
Dec 26 17:41:47 <KotCzarny> i was hoping for emmc os :/
Dec 26 17:42:02 <KotCzarny> still it might be split in 2 flash phases anyway
Dec 26 17:42:35 <Pali> you can create small linux RAM distro which export uSD and eMMC via mass storage
Dec 26 17:42:39 <Pali> and load it via 0xFFFF
Dec 26 17:42:59 <sicelo-> Vajb: congrats!
Dec 26 17:43:02 <Pali> and then you can do what you want with eMMC via usb mass storage
Dec 26 17:43:17 <KotCzarny> that could work
Dec 26 17:43:27 <Pali> anyway, exporting is already supported by bootmenu Maemo extras package
Dec 26 17:44:11 <Pali> 0xFFFF supports also cold-flashing, in case bootloader in nand is erased/damaged
Dec 26 18:12:01 <Vajb> sicelo-: well i didn't actually buy it. Just looked at it in the store ;)
Dec 26 18:14:19 <sicelo-> haha, don't look too much. it will be bought. the X220 i saw a day ago .. gone
Dec 26 18:22:13 <Vajb> well there was maybe 20of them all in backbag and with pricetag 299e
Dec 26 18:22:38 <KotCzarny> dont worry, in a few months price will drop in that shop
Dec 26 18:22:55 <KotCzarny> in the meantime find all classifieds sites that operate in your area/country
Dec 26 18:23:06 <KotCzarny> and browse them once a week
Dec 26 18:24:05 <sicelo-> KotCzarny: what's this one? surely not a regular X220, or is it? https://www.olx.co.za/ad/lenovo-think-pad-x220-i5-ID163YcI.html#39dba3cd23
Dec 26 18:24:41 <Vajb> there were also one x230 in a bag. 429e
Dec 26 18:32:37 <KotCzarny> hmm
Dec 26 18:32:43 <KotCzarny> i wonder if there is x220t
Dec 26 18:33:00 <KotCzarny> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220_Tablet
Dec 26 18:33:01 <KotCzarny> yup
Dec 26 18:33:56 <KotCzarny> vajb: X-series, ultraportable, 2 screen size (12"), 2 series generation, 0 series subgen
Dec 26 18:33:59 <KotCzarny> or something like that
Dec 26 18:35:18 <Vajb> ah thats the model with separable screen
Dec 26 18:35:25 <KotCzarny> hmm, or even something more convolutes, apparently series generation is quite closely tied to cpu gen (ie. x240 -> i5-4xxx etc)
Dec 26 18:36:01 <KotCzarny> and x260 - i5/7-6xxx
Dec 26 18:36:02 <KotCzarny> etc
Dec 26 18:38:16 <Vajb> just chechking specs of the t420 it seems not that bad
Dec 26 18:38:26 <Vajb> 8gb ram and 160gb ssd
Dec 26 18:38:57 <Vajb> i5 2520M or 2540M
Dec 26 18:40:29 <Vajb> heh they had 60 of them
Dec 26 18:41:13 <KotCzarny> you might even consider t410
Dec 26 18:41:28 <KotCzarny> but t400 is probably core2duo, which you dont want (most likely)
Dec 26 18:41:55 <sicelo-> problem? (or just old?)
Dec 26 18:42:08 <KotCzarny> i-cores are much more effective
Dec 26 18:42:22 <KotCzarny> and eache newer gen improves over previous
Dec 26 18:42:52 <KotCzarny> if he wants core2duo t60/t61 would be much cheaper and speedy enough 
Dec 26 18:43:22 <KotCzarny> but with 2nd hand laptops its mostly catching good deal
Dec 26 18:48:29 <Vajb> i'll have to scout for few weeks, but i think this might be good period. Somebody might have got new laptop as a present lately
Dec 26 20:37:33 <bencoh> yay for new 0xffff <3
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