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Mar 02 15:09:08 <jonwil> YES, it works :)
Mar 02 15:09:59 <jonwil> My hacked up copy of Farhplan actually finds journeys (and the correct ones too)
Mar 02 15:10:23 <KotCzarny> :)
Mar 02 15:10:37 <KotCzarny> now you should submit patches to farhplan and make them rebuild
Mar 02 15:16:22 <jonwil> No point submitting patches upstream, the upstream version (at http://fahrplan.smurfy.de/) is totally different codebase now and doesn't even support the N900
Mar 02 15:16:35 <jonwil> that homepage says "For old no longer maintained code of fahrplan (used on the N900 only) visit: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=fahrplan"
Mar 02 15:16:53 <KotCzarny> huh
Mar 02 15:17:04 <KotCzarny> convince them that n900 is alive and worthy?
Mar 02 15:19:09 <jonwil> The new version uses all sorts of QT stuff N900 doesn't have (QT components for one thing)
Mar 02 15:19:20 <jonwil> i.e. making it work on the N900 would be impossible
Mar 02 15:19:42 <KotCzarny> ho-hum.
Mar 02 15:20:24 <inz> KotCzarny, that convincing somehow reminds me of Dungeonmaster quote: "I reject your reality and substitute my own"
Mar 02 15:20:33 <KotCzarny> ;)
Mar 02 15:20:45 <KotCzarny> my n900 is definitely alive
Mar 02 15:20:52 <bencoh> jonwil: <3
Mar 02 15:21:29 <jonwil> I do intend to share with other N900 users though when I have something that doesn't suck so much
Mar 02 15:21:33 <jonwil> I got more work to do first
Mar 02 15:21:41 <bencoh> jonwil: I actually wanted to do exactly that (patch farhplan with support other direction providers) and never actually got into the work
Mar 02 15:21:51 <bencoh> so many thanks :)
Mar 02 15:21:54 <jonwil> What providers did you want to support exactly?
Mar 02 15:22:00 <bencoh> google directions
Mar 02 15:22:18 <bencoh> and bus.co.il since this is where I live
Mar 02 15:22:39 <bencoh> (but they don't have any open API so I had to reverse their app, somehow)
Mar 02 15:23:06 <bencoh> I actually wanted to add support for google directions to marble, but ... meh :)
Mar 02 15:23:07 <jonwil> I had to reverse engineer the website for Translink since the open API I wanted to use got discontinued before I even wrote code
Mar 02 15:23:14 <bencoh> never had time to do that either
Mar 02 15:23:22 <bencoh> uhuh
Mar 02 15:24:08 <bencoh> so you're not using qjson in the end?
Mar 02 15:24:11 <jonwil> yes I am
Mar 02 15:24:14 <jonwil> I am using QJSON
Mar 02 15:24:25 <bencoh> ah, you reverse their site javascript then
Mar 02 15:24:26 <jonwil> The web site uses QJSON internally
Mar 02 15:24:27 <bencoh> reversed*
Mar 02 15:24:32 <jonwil> I mean JSON
Mar 02 15:24:38 <bencoh> yeah
Mar 02 15:24:45 <bencoh> well, nice :)
Mar 02 15:25:01 <jonwil> There are 3 relavent URLs that return JSON when you send them HTTP POST data
Mar 02 15:25:35 <jonwil> one takes a string and returns candidate locations (so if I type in "Beenleigh" it will return "Beenleigh Station" and "Beenleigh State School" and things like that
Mar 02 15:25:53 <jonwil> one takes GPS coordinates and returns a location string
Mar 02 15:27:27 <jonwil> and the third takes a bunch of info like location, date/time, settings for what sort of services to use (bus, train, tram, ferry, school bus, whatever) and some other stuff and returns a big JSON blob with the journeys it has found
Mar 02 15:27:54 <jonwil> One thing I need to do is to keep looking at the big JSON blob and see if there are any fields it returns that I dont currently do anything with that I should somehow use
Mar 02 15:29:01 <jonwil> most of its is no use though (e.g. fahrplan has no concept of "stops", just the different legs of the journey so all the stuff that gives details of individual stops is no use)
Mar 02 15:32:04 <jonwil> Right now the results page displays the from and to locations entered into the search box, the date of the search and for each possible journey it displays the type(s) of vehicles (train, bus, tram, ferry, walk) the journey uses, the number of transfers and the duration.
Mar 02 15:33:11 <jonwil> clicking an individual journey gives me the start and end points of the journey, the duration then for each leg of the journey, the route name (or for walking legs, the distance walked), the start stop, the start time, the end stop, the end time and the duration of that leg.
Mar 02 15:41:44 <jonwil> the big problem I have is dealing with the fact that Translink has both a human readable name and an ID for a location so I need to find a non-hacky way (one that doesn't require all kinds of hacks and changes to the fahrplan codebasse) to handle this.
Mar 02 15:41:59 <jonwil> I have a few things to try though that might work better than the hacks I have now
Mar 02 16:01:41 <DocScrutinizer05> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38758
Mar 02 16:01:54 <DocScrutinizer05> dang, too late
Mar 02 16:04:25 <DocScrutinizer05> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1480878
Mar 02 16:10:17 <DocScrutinizer05> sigh! http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/fahrplan/0.0.33/ 4 of 6
Mar 02 16:18:35 <KotCzarny> maybe just make requirement for initial vote/release
Mar 02 16:18:45 <KotCzarny> and updates should be free
Mar 02 16:52:19 <timeless> So, someone pocket dialed my US Google Voice number and their butt left a message https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ofLTzFaD/
Mar 02 16:52:54 <timeless> Simon Hesselberg Løvald -- anyone here recognize the name?
Mar 02 16:53:02 <timeless> i don't think I know that many people in Norway...
Mar 02 16:56:17 <KotCzarny> some uni teacher?
Mar 02 16:56:51 * timeless wonders how someone could accidentally dial a 10 digit number (well 11 if you count the `+`)
Mar 02 16:59:15 <KotCzarny> wrong copypaste?
Mar 02 16:59:29 <KotCzarny> someone in the club giving him fake number?
Mar 02 17:27:11 <KotCzarny> interesting: https://sourceforge.net/p/crengine/feature-requests/169/
Mar 02 17:27:19 <KotCzarny> didnt know sf went evil way
Mar 02 18:17:39 <totalizator> all these evil ads are enough for me 
Mar 02 18:18:32 <totalizator> like fake download banners
Mar 02 18:28:24 <KotCzarny> my banana is playing music amd compiling oscp package, and eats whopping 2.5W at the moment
Mar 02 18:28:51 <KotCzarny> (thats with integrated microamp already)
Mar 02 18:29:19 <KotCzarny> s/amd/and/
Mar 02 18:30:08 <xes> KotCzarny: banana? is it stable after all?
Mar 02 18:30:22 <KotCzarny> it was stable all the time
Mar 02 18:31:34 <totalizator> stop tempting me
Mar 02 18:31:35 <xes> i still point at some of that orange pi pc pip p ples 2e something..
Mar 02 18:31:48 <KotCzarny> xes, what would you use it for?
Mar 02 18:32:37 <xes> KotCzarny: usual connectivy mini server
Mar 02 18:32:48 <KotCzarny> totalizator: those little allwinner boxes are pretty nicely supported by community (mainline uboot and kernel, though new chips are a bit lagging as usual)
Mar 02 18:33:06 <KotCzarny> xes: how many drives you would want to connect to it?
Mar 02 18:33:33 <xes> none
Mar 02 18:33:39 <KotCzarny> o.o
Mar 02 18:34:48 <xes> ..but i hate wait 2 months..
Mar 02 18:35:00 <KotCzarny> you might start with some minimal board, opi0 or something (depends greatly if you need wifi or ethernet more)
Mar 02 18:35:07 <KotCzarny> xes, order from some local store then?
Mar 02 18:35:24 <KotCzarny> you would pay more but should get faster
Mar 02 18:35:56 <KotCzarny> and there are usually clueless people buying them then not knowing it's a hacker board ;)
Mar 02 18:36:08 <KotCzarny> so you might browse local classifieds sites
Mar 02 18:37:09 <xes> ..eh..nope. no one cares to distribute them in eu
Mar 02 18:37:23 <KotCzarny> see 'local classifieds' part
Mar 02 18:37:34 <KotCzarny> which country you live in ?
Mar 02 18:38:01 <KotCzarny> and if you want .eu based boards see olimex
Mar 02 18:38:36 <xes> i will give another look.. 
Mar 02 18:38:44 <KotCzarny> it's european company that designs and produces own boards based on those socs
Mar 02 18:39:37 <KotCzarny> fun fact, one of the more popular 3d printers is using olimex boards as a cpu 
Mar 02 18:43:42 <KotCzarny> oh wow, i though mouse gets eaten by default in osso-term, but apparently oscp is nicely working in it
Mar 02 18:49:03 <KotCzarny> oh, it's because of opened hwkb
Mar 02 18:49:22 <KotCzarny> can i convince osso-xterm not to open vkb when my ncurses app is running?
Mar 02 18:52:04 <KotCzarny> anyway, 0.9.68 upped.
Mar 02 20:11:15 <DocScrutinizer05> timeless: on a numeric keypad it seems surprisingly simple
Mar 02 20:11:25 * timeless nods
Mar 02 20:11:41 <timeless> https://aws.amazon.com/message/41926/ is interesting
Mar 02 20:14:11 <DocScrutinizer05> [2017-03-01 Wed 08:41:15] <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/28/aws_is_awol_as_s3_goes_haywire/  haha
Mar 02 20:15:00 <enyc> but but but but but but what will happen to get maemo.org services all ipv6-enabled???
Mar 02 20:41:44 <xes> sincerely?
Mar 02 20:42:12 <KotCzarny> how many ipv6 ranges are in rbl/sspam lists?
Mar 02 20:43:24 <xes> noidea
Mar 02 20:45:02 <enyc> KotCzarny: similar scenariou to ipv4....  emali wise, fcrdns requirement is key, e.g. gmail insists on this now
Mar 02 23:12:10 <xes> there is a small maintenance in progress on maemo servers. Some service may disappear for some second
Mar 02 23:18:15 <jonwil> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99029
Mar 02 23:18:55 <jonwil> Great to finally have a way to do journey planning on my N900 again without needing to call the phone number and talk to a real human (which takes time and doesn't let me search by GPS)
Mar 02 23:26:50 <jonwil> and I think the way I handled the need to have both a human readable description and a separate internal identifier for a given location/stop/etc is quite elegant (just need to hope I found all the places where the human readable description is displayed)
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