**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 05 03:00:01 2017
Mar 05 05:45:59 <chatter29> hey guys
Mar 05 05:46:03 <chatter29> allah is doing
Mar 05 05:46:07 <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
Mar 05 05:46:11 <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
Mar 05 07:43:18 <bencoh> freemangordon: no experience with gio no
Mar 05 07:47:17 <KotCzarny> hrm
Mar 05 07:47:26 <KotCzarny> what could be the reason of mass storage mode not working?
Mar 05 07:47:56 <KotCzarny> when i connect cable, i click 'mass storage', but it stays at 'charging only'
Mar 05 07:48:04 <bencoh> KotCzarny: inability to umount (busy fs) maybe?
Mar 05 07:48:24 <KotCzarny> when i do lsof|grep -i mydocs i dont see anything
Mar 05 07:48:25 <bencoh> I'd suggest lsof -n
Mar 05 07:48:49 <KotCzarny> opt is on different partition, right?
Mar 05 07:49:08 <KotCzarny> so only something with 'mydocs' in the path should matter in such case
Mar 05 08:04:39 <KotCzarny> also, i can umount mydocs just fine from cmdline
Mar 05 09:38:52 <Enrico309> Hello everybody. Need help with kernel boot.
Mar 05 09:38:59 <Enrico309> Please let me know if you can read me.
Mar 05 09:42:21 <sixwheeledbeast> What help do you require, you may have to hang about for an answer.
Mar 05 09:42:52 <Enrico309> Hello, thanks for answering.
Mar 05 09:43:13 <Enrico309> I have reflashed my N900, and installed u-boot.
Mar 05 09:43:30 <Enrico309> Then I was trying to install NITDroid, and messed up something.
Mar 05 09:43:45 <Enrico309> Now I can access u-boot console, but not the OS.
Mar 05 09:44:06 <Enrico309> I have been able to put the kernel image on a sd card and make it start.
Mar 05 09:44:21 <Enrico309> But when it starts it sits for a while and then reboots.
Mar 05 09:44:42 <Enrico309> I nedd help on how to set the system in order for Maemo to properly start.
Mar 05 09:45:14 <Enrico309> Note: I cannot reflash the device, since it is not recognised by my computer anymore.
Mar 05 09:49:51 <Enrico309> Hi Pali, are you the developer of u-boot for the N900?
Mar 05 10:13:15 <sixwheeledbeast> ~nitdroid
Mar 05 10:13:15 <infobot> [nitdroid] Nokia Internet Tablets with android OS. Support on nitdroid is provided in the channel #nitdroid and #nitdroid-help and Nokia does not officially support owners with android OS on their tablets. For more information read here: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=NITDroid_project. If you have bricked your N900 device and have installed nitdroid, flash with both eMMC and fiasco.
Mar 05 10:15:04 <Enrico309> I cannot flash because the device is not recognised by my computer anymore.
Mar 05 10:15:16 <KotCzarny> ~flashing
Mar 05 10:15:16 <infobot> from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
Mar 05 10:15:21 <KotCzarny> try that script
Mar 05 10:16:47 <Enrico309> Sorry, I don't understand what ~flashing means.
Mar 05 10:17:05 <KotCzarny> download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh
Mar 05 10:18:06 <KotCzarny> dont forget that you have to power off n900 and connect it to your machine after you get prompted AND without turning it on
Mar 05 10:19:40 <Enrico309> I was trying to use the flasher-3.5. I have been able to install it on Windows Vista.
Mar 05 10:19:49 <Enrico309> The problem is that the device is not recognised.
Mar 05 10:20:07 <freemangordon> anybody knowing sparql? 
Mar 05 10:20:33 <KotCzarny> Enrico309: better find some old laptop and install 32bit linux
Mar 05 10:21:03 <freemangordon> or boot 32bit linux from falsh drive/cd
Mar 05 10:21:07 <KotCzarny> or just run some 32bit livecd linux
Mar 05 10:21:09 <KotCzarny> yup
Mar 05 10:21:09 <freemangordon> *flash
Mar 05 10:21:38 <Enrico309> Ok, but please let me know... does this script require the flasher-3.5?
Mar 05 10:21:48 <freemangordon> most probably
Mar 05 10:21:53 <KotCzarny> it includes everything you need
Mar 05 10:21:57 <KotCzarny> flasher and flashing images
Mar 05 10:22:10 <Enrico309> Ok, I will have a look at it.
Mar 05 10:23:12 <KotCzarny> fmg, got an idea why mass storage isnt working on n900? even after clicking on requester it stays in charge only
Mar 05 10:27:08 <sixwheeledbeast> The lazy script above is a shell script IIRC so not for windows.
Mar 05 10:27:55 <Enrico309> Yes, I have also a Mac. The problem is that I cannot install the flasher there.
Mar 05 10:28:11 <KotCzarny> see 'livecd'
Mar 05 10:28:59 <Enrico309> Ok, first thing I will do is to open the .sh script with the Mac and look at what's going on there.
Mar 05 10:29:28 <sixwheeledbeast> Also issues may occur detecting device with a USB hub, make sure you use a USB port directly. Ones on the back.
Mar 05 10:30:05 <Enrico309> I have a laptop - no USB ports on the back. Just on sides.
Mar 05 10:30:22 <sixwheeledbeast> https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Mac_OS_X ?
Mar 05 10:30:32 <Enrico309> But before bricking it, the device was recognised.
Mar 05 10:31:12 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: what os?
Mar 05 10:31:36 <KotCzarny> fmg, stock, but it was working before and i dont remember installing or changing anything in the meantime
Mar 05 10:31:53 <freemangordon> I mean - what OS is on the PC
Mar 05 10:32:10 <KotCzarny> fmg, probably android, or some tv os
Mar 05 10:33:03 <freemangordon> does it work when connected to some "normal" PC?
Mar 05 10:33:08 <KotCzarny> let me check
Mar 05 10:33:45 <freemangordon> Enrico309: what happened so you've bricked it?
Mar 05 10:35:03 <freemangordon> Enrico309: depending on the type of "brick" you may need to cold-flash it
Mar 05 10:35:25 <freemangordon> flasher-3.5 will do the job, but it is tricky
Mar 05 10:35:29 <freemangordon> ~cold-flash
Mar 05 10:35:30 <KotCzarny> when connected to pc no reaction
Mar 05 10:35:46 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: you're sure USB cable is ok?
Mar 05 10:35:46 <KotCzarny> could it be a symptom of usb port dying?
Mar 05 10:36:02 <freemangordon> yes, but you'd better check with other USB cable first
Mar 05 10:36:09 <freemangordon> ~ping
Mar 05 10:36:10 <infobot> 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss
Mar 05 10:36:17 <freemangordon> ~cold-flashing
Mar 05 10:36:22 <freemangordon> grrr
Mar 05 10:36:54 <KotCzarny> when i rebooted there was is some activity in device manager
Mar 05 10:37:40 <KotCzarny> and got usb type requester, but clicking on 'mass storage' doesnt change anything
Mar 05 10:38:26 <KotCzarny> so i assume cable is ok, but os somehow fails to initialize the gadget maybe
Mar 05 10:38:47 <bencoh> err what do you mean by "not recognized anymore" by the way?
Mar 05 10:38:53 <bencoh> ah
Mar 05 10:39:23 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: looks like, you'd better boot some linux and check what dmesg says
Mar 05 10:39:34 <KotCzarny> btw. there was g_ether loaded
Mar 05 10:39:43 <Enrico309> I was moving files on the directory structure from the terminal.
Mar 05 10:39:53 <KotCzarny> after removing it there was some activity in device manager
Mar 05 10:40:00 <freemangordon> Enrico309: see https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing
Mar 05 10:41:06 <KotCzarny> http://pastebin.com/raw/fCX19WCn
Mar 05 10:41:13 <KotCzarny> dmesg bit from n900
Mar 05 10:41:49 <Enrico309> I already tried the cold flash. The device is not seen by the computer.
Mar 05 10:41:58 <Enrico309> (Again, this on Windows.)
Mar 05 10:42:08 <Enrico309> I will manage to do something with the Mac.
Mar 05 10:42:21 <Enrico309> But first I would like to know how to communicate with the device.
Mar 05 10:44:12 <KotCzarny> how can i change usb mode from cmdline on n900?
Mar 05 10:44:22 <KotCzarny> ie. start mass storage
Mar 05 10:44:47 <freemangordon> Enrico309: as I said, it is tricky, you only have about 200-300ms for the detection
Mar 05 10:45:24 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: ass long as g_mass_storage is loaded, it should be fine
Mar 05 10:45:36 <KotCzarny> fmg: it doesnt need some configuration?
Mar 05 10:45:37 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: again, get dmesg log from host PC
Mar 05 10:45:53 <freemangordon> well, it needs, but it should be done
Mar 05 10:46:07 <KotCzarny> you mean g_file_storage ?
Mar 05 10:46:09 <freemangordon> check in /sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage.sh or somesuch
Mar 05 10:46:16 <freemangordon> yep
Mar 05 10:47:06 <KotCzarny> hmm, running osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh from cmdline made it work
Mar 05 10:47:37 <freemangordon> Enrico309: by the time I had windoze XP here, it was taking 8-10 cable reconnects so cold-flash detection to work
Mar 05 10:47:47 <freemangordon> and knowing vista is way heavier...
Mar 05 10:48:21 <freemangordon> I guess it just doesn't manage to install the needed driver before it is too late
Mar 05 10:48:47 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: weird
Mar 05 10:50:06 <Enrico309> Ok, let's say I work on the Mac. How may I communicate with the device?
Mar 05 10:51:25 <Enrico309> And I read the flash-it-all script. It just makes use of the flasher-3.5. I am able to do that without the script.
Mar 05 10:51:29 <KotCzarny> fmg, is it normal to have g_ether loaded on boot?
Mar 05 10:51:45 <Enrico309> Just, I don't have the flasher on the Mac.
Mar 05 10:53:25 <KotCzarny> said 'works' too early, it loaded, i see drives in 'my computer' but they arent accessible. and i see 'charging only' in the systray
Mar 05 10:53:44 <KotCzarny> and mydocs is mounted still
Mar 05 10:53:48 <KotCzarny> (on n900)
Mar 05 10:58:03 <KotCzarny> it's as it fails to configure file to export
Mar 05 10:58:59 <KotCzarny> hum, might be that script needs param passed
Mar 05 10:59:08 <freemangordon> Enrico309: I doubt flash-it-all script will help if 1st stage loader is broken, you should do cold-flash by hand
Mar 05 10:59:25 <freemangordon> Enrico309: also, I can't help with anything apple :)
Mar 05 10:59:44 <Pali> Enrico309: pong
Mar 05 10:59:51 <Pali> see mailbox
Mar 05 10:59:54 <Maxdamantus> btw, it's definitely not going to work (at least not safely) if you have any files/directories open from the MyDocs mount.
Mar 05 11:00:07 <KotCzarny> maxd: lsof shows nothing
Mar 05 11:00:19 <KotCzarny> at least on lsof|grep -i mydocs
Mar 05 11:00:21 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: do you still have terminal opened?
Mar 05 11:00:28 <Maxdamantus> lsof isn't necessarily reliable.
Mar 05 11:00:29 <KotCzarny> and as i've said, i can umount mydocs without a problem
Mar 05 11:00:49 <Maxdamantus> Hm, okay.
Mar 05 11:01:40 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: you could try to rmmod g_file_storage by hand, then load it by hand with the correct parameters
Mar 05 11:02:07 <freemangordon> and do "echo /dev/whatevermydocspartis > /sys/..."
Mar 05 11:02:28 <Maxdamantus> .. and hope that maemo doesn't automatically mount it again.
Mar 05 11:02:48 <freemangordon> sorry, can't remember the /sys/ path for g_file_storage parameters
Mar 05 11:03:09 <Maxdamantus> If you've rmmodded it, you can just pass in the parameters as you modprobe it again.
Mar 05 11:03:17 <Maxdamantus> modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk...
Mar 05 11:03:31 <freemangordon> Maxdamantus: maemo usee LUNS=2
Mar 05 11:03:34 <freemangordon> *uses
Mar 05 11:04:06 <freemangordon> but yeah, maybe it is possible to provide files to be exported on cmdline
Mar 05 11:04:49 <freemangordon> Pali: so, upstream replacement for tracker-client is tracker-sparql, right?
Mar 05 11:05:01 <Pali> I really do not know
Mar 05 11:05:30 <freemangordon> do you know SPARQL?
Mar 05 11:05:46 <Maxdamantus> The luns parameter seems to just specify a maximum number of luns, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Mar 05 11:05:55 <freemangordon> hmm, right
Mar 05 11:06:06 <Maxdamantus> afaik maemo will usually only have 1 anyway.
Mar 05 11:06:25 <freemangordon> no, my maemo usualy has 2 :)
Mar 05 11:06:34 <Maxdamantus> Heh.
Mar 05 11:06:41 <freemangordon> mydocs and vfat partotion on uSD :)
Mar 05 11:06:46 <freemangordon> *partition
Mar 05 11:06:57 <Maxdamantus> My maemo usually doesn't use g_file_storage or FAT at all.
Mar 05 11:07:16 <freemangordon> ssh is too slow
Mar 05 11:07:27 <freemangordon> to copy a video file for example
Mar 05 11:08:10 <Maxdamantus> If I need to copy a single large file I'll just use netcat and pipe it to dd with oflags=sync after remounting the filesystem with -o sync
Mar 05 11:08:44 <Maxdamantus> If I need to copy lots of large files I'll probably just run an rsync server somewhere.
Mar 05 11:08:56 <Maxdamantus> er, lots of small files*
Mar 05 11:10:00 <freemangordon> doesn't work (in real-time) if you want to copy some movie downloaded on your PC to n900 (connected to TV set) :)
Mar 05 11:10:00 <KotCzarny> tinysmb?
Mar 05 11:10:13 <KotCzarny> quite nice and works like a charm
Mar 05 11:10:29 <freemangordon> no way you can achieve 15MB/s over the wifi
Mar 05 11:10:47 <KotCzarny> :)
Mar 05 11:11:29 <Maxdamantus> I meant over g_ether.
Mar 05 11:11:46 <Maxdamantus> If it's over wifi I won't bother with the sync stuff because the filesystem will be fast enough anyway.
Mar 05 11:11:54 <freemangordon> ah
Mar 05 11:11:57 <freemangordon> g_ether
Mar 05 11:12:18 <freemangordon> still, it is slower and more complicated
Mar 05 11:12:28 <Maxdamantus> I'd usually just transfer one-off small things over ssh/wifi.
Mar 05 11:12:40 <freemangordon> but yeah, will do the job
Mar 05 11:12:44 <KotCzarny> hmm, i've added some debug to /usr/sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh , but it apparently isnt called at all
Mar 05 11:12:54 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: ke-recv is running?
Mar 05 11:13:03 <KotCzarny> yea
Mar 05 11:13:11 <freemangordon> try to restart it
Mar 05 11:13:14 <KotCzarny> i get usb mode dialog so it should be
Mar 05 11:14:03 <freemangordon> also, iirc there is some verbose debug ke-recv cmdline switch
Mar 05 11:14:16 <freemangordon> Pali: ^^^ how to enable verbose logging in ke-recv?
Mar 05 11:15:39 <KotCzarny> no banana
Mar 05 11:19:33 <Pali> freemangordon: logging is in syslog
Mar 05 11:19:49 <KotCzarny> maybe it's time to upgrade to cssu
Mar 05 11:20:00 <KotCzarny> still, would be nice to know where it fails now
Mar 05 11:20:05 <Pali> and you probably need to add #define DEBUG at the begining of affected file
Mar 05 11:20:24 <Pali> ke-recv uses osso-log.h for logging
Mar 05 11:26:30 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: wait, what?!?
Mar 05 11:26:38 <freemangordon> you're not on cssu?
Mar 05 11:26:54 <KotCzarny> :)
Mar 05 11:27:05 <freemangordon> no more help for you :p
Mar 05 11:27:21 <freemangordon> until you install cssu
Mar 05 11:27:21 <KotCzarny> ok, ok, i'm upgrading, i just hope it wont fry my n900 :P
Mar 05 11:27:33 <KotCzarny> ~cssu
Mar 05 11:27:34 <infobot> [cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)
Mar 05 11:27:53 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: jump on -thumb 
Mar 05 11:27:55 <KotCzarny> would i get help if i go cssu-thumb thouhg :P
Mar 05 11:28:01 <freemangordon> sure :)
Mar 05 11:28:04 <KotCzarny> k
Mar 05 11:33:48 <KotCzarny> hrm, ham says i have cssu-testing enabled
Mar 05 11:34:00 <KotCzarny> did i go cssu in the past and forgot about it?
Mar 05 11:36:33 <KotCzarny> oh, and btw. when i click update in ham it tries to force me to backup, and there is no 'skip backup' button
Mar 05 11:37:33 <KotCzarny> mp-fremantle-community-pr                           21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2
Mar 05 11:47:59 <KotCzarny> oh, 'continue' button was missing because of the pkg conflicts. fixed them and now i can update to cssu-testing11
Mar 05 11:48:37 <KotCzarny> would be nice to have more intuitive notification why i can't continue (it was only in update details tab)
Mar 05 11:50:28 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: once you have CSSU installed, you will have that "more intuitive notification" :)
Mar 05 11:50:38 <freemangordon> iirc
Mar 05 11:50:44 <KotCzarny> fmg, it looks like i had cssu-testing 1.2
Mar 05 11:50:59 <freemangordon> which is how old?
Mar 05 11:51:15 <KotCzarny> and now i recall i wasnt able to skip the 'create backup' because 'continue' was missing
Mar 05 11:51:28 <KotCzarny> 5 years old ;)
Mar 05 11:55:01 <KotCzarny> it's updating (and nuked my wifi/ssh connection in the process, so fingers crossed)
Mar 05 11:55:16 <freemangordon> :)
Mar 05 11:56:22 <KotCzarny> can i jump onto cassu-thumb from cssu-testing?
Mar 05 11:58:58 <freemangordon> yes
Mar 05 12:01:00 <KotCzarny> wtf, it came in portrait mode after reboot o.O
Mar 05 12:01:08 <freemangordon> well, it happens
Mar 05 12:01:14 <freemangordon> just reboot once again
Mar 05 12:01:30 <freemangordon> there is bug somewhere in hildon-desktop
Mar 05 12:01:45 <freemangordon> unless you have locked it in portrait mode
Mar 05 12:01:57 <KotCzarny> half of the icons are missed 
Mar 05 12:02:05 <KotCzarny> k, reboot
Mar 05 12:02:50 <freemangordon> keep the kbd opened, just in case
Mar 05 12:03:26 <KotCzarny> portrait again
Mar 05 12:03:50 <KotCzarny> opening kb didnt switch to landscape
Mar 05 12:04:24 <freemangordon> you have locked your device in portait :)
Mar 05 12:04:44 <KotCzarny> k, how do i get to normal?
Mar 05 12:05:21 <sixwheeledbeast> I found an amusing bug I couldn't reproduce that had the device switching portrait landscape in a loop :)
Mar 05 12:05:21 <KotCzarny> my neck is starting to be in pain
Mar 05 12:05:24 <KotCzarny> oh
Mar 05 12:05:37 <freemangordon> install ... ummm...
Mar 05 12:05:37 <KotCzarny> it came to landscape by itself now
Mar 05 12:05:43 <KotCzarny> automagically
Mar 05 12:05:53 <KotCzarny> maybe it was still booting
Mar 05 12:06:16 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: orientation-lock-applet
Mar 05 12:06:30 <KotCzarny> mhm, i seem to have this before update
Mar 05 12:06:34 <KotCzarny> now its missing
Mar 05 12:06:48 <freemangordon> yes, because it is not a part of cssu anymore
Mar 05 12:06:59 <freemangordon> but you can install it from HAM
Mar 05 12:07:03 <KotCzarny> uhum
Mar 05 12:07:19 <KotCzarny> imo it should be included
Mar 05 12:07:28 <freemangordon> it was decided against
Mar 05 12:07:35 <freemangordon> can't remember why
Mar 05 12:07:41 <KotCzarny> what was the reasining?
Mar 05 12:07:46 <KotCzarny> *reasoning
Mar 05 12:07:48 <freemangordon> can't remember
Mar 05 12:08:08 <KotCzarny> it's part of the general ui experience
Mar 05 12:08:19 <freemangordon> it was some political reasoning :)
Mar 05 12:08:27 <KotCzarny> the worst kind
Mar 05 12:08:48 <KotCzarny> anything else is missing that i should reinstall?
Mar 05 12:08:54 <freemangordon> NFC
Mar 05 12:09:23 <freemangordon> how am I supposed to know what you have had installed on your device :)
Mar 05 12:09:51 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: does mass-storage work?
Mar 05 12:10:21 <sixwheeledbeast> because it's not in stock maemo 
Mar 05 12:10:41 <freemangordon> yeah, some kind of that
Mar 05 12:10:58 <sixwheeledbeast> If you are not interested in portrait then is clutter.
Mar 05 12:11:10 <sixwheeledbeast> I can understand why it's optional
Mar 05 12:11:14 <freemangordon> mhm
Mar 05 12:11:57 <KotCzarny> most phone with accelerometer usually allow user to decide which mode should be uses port/land/auto
Mar 05 12:12:13 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: but not stock n900
Mar 05 12:12:20 <KotCzarny> so if you cant configure it in the os, it seems like your phone is missing something
Mar 05 12:12:25 <sixwheeledbeast> n900 is not most phones tho...
Mar 05 12:12:51 <KotCzarny> it's definitely a feature
Mar 05 12:12:59 <KotCzarny> which isnt essential to have, but nice one
Mar 05 12:13:06 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: nothing stops you from installing it
Mar 05 12:13:14 <KotCzarny> yup
Mar 05 12:13:18 <sixwheeledbeast> It's an optional extra as you could use gconf to keep the status menu uncluttered.
Mar 05 12:13:29 <freemangordon> it is there, just not pushed forcefully 
Mar 05 12:13:38 <KotCzarny> its something that should go into setting panel
Mar 05 12:13:59 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: however, does mass-storage work now?
Mar 05 12:14:09 <KotCzarny> let me check
Mar 05 12:14:46 <KotCzarny> nope. clicking usb mode button in status menu and selecting 'mass storage' didnt do the trick
Mar 05 12:14:47 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: BTW, is fsck finished?
Mar 05 12:14:55 <KotCzarny> still shows 'charging only'
Mar 05 12:15:12 <KotCzarny> yup, no fsck in ps
Mar 05 12:15:25 <freemangordon> try another USB cable
Mar 05 12:16:02 <freemangordon> also, I have a similar problem with my dev n900 when connected to some of the USB ports on my PC
Mar 05 12:16:07 <KotCzarny> cable should be fine, because i see mass storage drives, just unconfigured
Mar 05 12:16:15 <freemangordon> ah
Mar 05 12:16:35 <freemangordon> seems you have something installed that messes with it
Mar 05 12:17:30 <KotCzarny> any clue what to search for?
Mar 05 12:19:06 <freemangordon> which gadget module is loaded?
Mar 05 12:23:36 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: ^^^
Mar 05 12:23:48 <freemangordon> when you connect USB cable that is
Mar 05 12:26:02 <KotCzarny> g_ether
Mar 05 12:26:17 <freemangordon> should be g_file_storage
Mar 05 12:26:28 <freemangordon> wait
Mar 05 12:26:31 <freemangordon> g_ether?
Mar 05 12:26:36 <freemangordon> who loads that?
Mar 05 12:26:44 <KotCzarny> good question
Mar 05 12:26:50 <freemangordon> should be either g_nokia or g_file_storage
Mar 05 12:27:22 <freemangordon> iirc
Mar 05 12:27:39 <KotCzarny> umkay, found it
Mar 05 12:27:51 <freemangordon> hmm?
Mar 05 12:27:52 <KotCzarny> apparently i've modified rcS 
Mar 05 12:27:55 <freemangordon> :D
Mar 05 12:27:59 <KotCzarny> 2 years ago
Mar 05 12:28:29 <KotCzarny> i've even added comments in the file ;)
Mar 05 12:28:35 <KotCzarny> just forgot about it
Mar 05 12:28:35 <freemangordon> cool
Mar 05 12:28:48 <KotCzarny> oh well, at least i'm on updated cssu thanks to it ;)
Mar 05 12:28:58 <freemangordon> you may jump to thumb
Mar 05 12:29:16 <KotCzarny> yup, will comment out my changes and see if i get mass storage back
Mar 05 12:32:41 <KotCzarny> ugh, still doesnt work
Mar 05 12:32:53 <KotCzarny> no gagdets loaded at all now
Mar 05 12:33:13 <KotCzarny> oh 'device storage in use'
Mar 05 12:33:24 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: you have changed more things I guess
Mar 05 12:33:28 <freemangordon> aah
Mar 05 12:33:44 <freemangordon> well, close all terminals
Mar 05 12:33:53 <KotCzarny> all closed
Mar 05 12:33:55 <KotCzarny> only ssh open
Mar 05 12:34:07 <freemangordon> in which dir?
Mar 05 12:34:11 <KotCzarny> ~
Mar 05 12:34:25 <freemangordon> well, something holds mydocs opened
Mar 05 12:34:36 <KotCzarny> huh
Mar 05 12:34:50 <KotCzarny> now when i clicked 'mass storage' it worked, mysterious.
Mar 05 12:35:26 <freemangordon> fsck?
Mar 05 12:35:49 <KotCzarny> maybe, will try rebooting in a moment
Mar 05 12:46:00 <bencoh> KotCzarny: wait, so now you're using cssu?
Mar 05 12:46:27 <KotCzarny> apparently i have installed cssu-testing at some point in the past
Mar 05 12:46:39 <KotCzarny> somewhere around 2012 ;)
Mar 05 12:56:38 <KotCzarny> it feels good to organize photos in win7 explorer
Mar 05 13:07:51 <KotCzarny> hum, mydocs didnt get remounted after cable disconnect
Mar 05 13:08:11 <KotCzarny> oh, it did. fsck again then?
Mar 05 13:08:42 <KotCzarny> maybe there should be a statusbar icon to show when mydocs is running/fsck is running ;)
Mar 05 13:17:37 <KotCzarny> 'unable to update 'cssu-thumb', conflivting packages: curl (7,26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1), the heck?
Mar 05 13:35:21 <KotCzarny> WOW
Mar 05 13:35:32 <KotCzarny> 75Megs of ram free after upgrading to thumb
Mar 05 14:46:45 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: hmm, thats too much
Mar 05 14:47:07 <KotCzarny> i'm not complaining ;)
Mar 05 14:47:10 <freemangordon> or wait, what was the amount of free ram before?
Mar 05 14:47:35 <KotCzarny> at the moment 42M free, 80M cached, 46M swapped
Mar 05 14:47:58 <freemangordon> is there SIM card in that device?
Mar 05 14:48:10 <KotCzarny> yes, it's my main phone that i use daily
Mar 05 15:08:03 <KotCzarny> hmm, ham says 'no updates available', apt-get upgrade says few pkgs are available
Mar 05 15:09:48 <Sicelo> ham does not show updates for packages that you cannot install from ham to begin with
Mar 05 15:10:13 <KotCzarny> it sucks a bit then
Mar 05 15:11:17 <Sicelo> maybe in red pill mode it's better? never tried it
Mar 05 15:11:40 <KotCzarny> will just do some housekeeping with apt-get
Mar 05 15:31:23 <dfrtf> sun is not doing allah is doing
Mar 05 15:33:01 * DocScrutinizer05 glares at sigyn
Mar 05 15:33:34 <DocScrutinizer05> and at chanserv and ACL
Mar 05 19:43:22 <sixwheeledbeast> m.o down for anyone else?
Mar 05 19:43:45 <KotCzarny> wfm
Mar 05 19:52:50 <sixwheeledbeast> :nod:
Mar 05 20:32:42 <DocScrutinizer05> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/talk.maemo.org
Mar 05 20:33:11 <KotCzarny> he asked for m.o, not t.m.o
Mar 05 20:34:18 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm so happy my /ignore works... not
Mar 05 20:35:44 <DocScrutinizer05> what you learned: I like to provide gebneric info, not answers made as piecemeal. And those who can see this are the smarter half
Mar 05 20:36:46 <DocScrutinizer05> also you learned: not everybody adores Captain Obvious
Mar 05 20:37:37 <KotCzarny> he asked for a simple yes/no, not a snotty response that was also wrong (since site might seem up, yet, broken)
Mar 05 20:38:56 <DocScrutinizer05> FU!
Mar 05 20:39:01 <DocScrutinizer05> *plonk*
Mar 05 20:40:01 <bencoh> sigh
Mar 05 20:40:32 <bencoh> anyway, m.o works from here
Mar 05 20:42:11 <DocScrutinizer05> what I really love are twits that think they need to correct answers of others since they are not exactly what those twits would want to see
Mar 05 20:42:24 <KotCzarny> bencoh: bookmark this thingie: http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/?c=maemo&m=load_one&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2
Mar 05 20:42:43 <DocScrutinizer05> He didn't ask for that!!! idiot!
Mar 05 20:45:12 <DocScrutinizer05> also that's >>a snotty response that was also wrong (since site might seem up, yet, broken)<<
Mar 05 20:51:20 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders what makes people think others are even more stupid than themselves. When a "wfm" already answered the question if a site is up, how would anybody in their sane mind even assume an URL posted a 30 minutes later was >>a snotty response<< to the original question
Mar 05 21:01:20 <DocScrutinizer05> unless of course they conclude from themselves to others
Mar 05 21:48:07 <peetah> ~sb
Mar 05 21:48:10 <infobot> somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB
Mar 05 23:13:05 <sixwheeledbeast> yep thx, I forget that m.o is broken for HTTPS everywhere
Mar 06 00:15:54 <DocScrutinizer05> is it?
Mar 06 00:17:10 <DocScrutinizer05> oh, redirects to login, weird
Mar 06 00:19:12 <DocScrutinizer05> and login redirects to http://maemo.org. at last then - after authenticating - you could use https://maemo.org
Mar 06 00:19:51 <DocScrutinizer05> weird
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