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Apr 05 05:52:15 * Maxdamantus wonders if it'd be a good idea to put some epoxy on the lock switch, so make it easier to pull down.
Apr 05 05:53:06 * Maxdamantus thinks the line thing has warn off.
Apr 05 13:41:34 <ShadowJK> For some reason I had a memory of iridium being sold for $1
Apr 05 18:09:47 <DocScrutinizer05> parazyd: could you have a look at http://omappedia.org/wiki/Maemo_Getting_Started#Beagle please?
Apr 05 20:34:14 <NeKit> in case of Maemo/Devuan, is there a way to run two maemo-lauchers, one for armhf and another for armel compatibility?
Apr 05 20:36:01 <NeKit> I can start some apps from N900 chroot, like System Settings, Gallery, Pidgin or Fennec if maemo-launcher is also from that chroot
Apr 05 20:58:00 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd suggest to get a devuan-armel instead
Apr 05 21:13:52 <NeKit> I think packages in the repo are going to be build for armhf
Apr 05 21:19:15 <Zungo> interesting
Apr 05 21:48:44 <DocScrutinizer05> netkat: aha
Apr 05 21:49:55 <DocScrutinizer05> I really wonder who spread that furfy
Apr 05 21:50:50 <DocScrutinizer05> one of the points for devuan _was_ armel
Apr 05 21:52:09 <DocScrutinizer05> of we had planned to move all maemo to a new arch, we had been (un)able to accomplish that a 5 years ago already
Apr 05 21:52:23 <DocScrutinizer05> if we*
Apr 05 21:53:15 <DocScrutinizer05> and indeed iirc it been done, a few times. until the point where it inevitably fails, for the closed blobs
Apr 05 21:54:26 <DocScrutinizer05> when you want a working maemo - there is one already. If you want a new kernel, I wonder why
Apr 05 21:54:45 <DocScrutinizer05> it's not like *maemo* would work better with a new kernel
Apr 05 21:55:25 <DocScrutinizer05> at least not on N900
Apr 05 21:56:24 <NeKit> well, what I'm interested in is running Maemo UI/apps on devices other than N900, so it's a new kernel/different set of blobs anyway...
Apr 05 21:59:53 <DocScrutinizer05> then why would you want stuff like system settings or gallery or **fennec**?
Apr 05 22:01:36 <DocScrutinizer05> I doubt a new platform would make much use of system settings. And gallery is a PoS only needed because it always been like this and camera-ui needs it
Apr 05 22:01:57 <NeKit> I just tried them as examples of "old" apps
Apr 05 22:01:59 <DocScrutinizer05> and camera-ui in turn also most likely won't work on another platform
Apr 05 22:03:04 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly just like mafw and all that uses it: mediaplayer, all audio stuff at large...
Apr 05 22:04:09 <DocScrutinizer05> on telepathy the jury's still out
Apr 05 22:12:13 <bencoh> actually I don't really see why mafw wouldn't work on other platforms
Apr 05 22:12:46 <bencoh> you could very well instantiate mafw and its set of plugins (including mafw-gst-renderer)
Apr 05 22:12:57 <bencoh> iirc it is opensource
Apr 05 22:13:24 <bencoh> stock mediaplayer isn't; but we already have a working replacement for it, based on mafw as well (openmediaplayer)
Apr 05 22:16:03 <Zungo> so, whats the problem, reverse engineer everything
Apr 05 22:16:25 <Zungo> maemo itself comes with apps
Apr 06 00:35:48 <DocScrutinizer05> I just don't get it, no matter how hard I try. You can choose to build a armel or a armhf system. You could use powerlernel or a recent 4.x kernel with poor support for some of N900 peripherals. When you deliberately choose to use incompatible armhf and mainline kernel 4.x, why would you want to run maemo apps on it. Or the other way around: when you want to run maemo apps, why don't you run them on maemo (== armel-powerkernel)?
Apr 06 01:10:47 <DocScrutinizer05> even with a 4.x mainline kernel you're still free to choose armel arch
Apr 06 02:10:07 <Maxdamantus> Well, in the long run it'll be kind of sucky if people have to use kernels from non-mainline sources.
Apr 06 02:11:28 <Maxdamantus> like how if you want to use zfs, you're meant to apply some patches first or build some module out of tree.
Apr 06 02:11:44 <Maxdamantus> or .. nvidia
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