**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 24 03:00:01 2017 Jun 24 09:47:01 do i really have to aac my music up :< Jun 24 10:07:04 kerio: ? Jun 24 10:07:06 no? Jun 24 10:07:11 wat do then Jun 24 10:07:16 there's no opus support Jun 24 10:07:20 I have it in flac. works fine. Jun 24 10:07:27 idk about opus. is there none? Jun 24 10:07:35 gstreamer is too old i believe Jun 24 10:07:40 could be Jun 24 10:13:15 kerio: maybe use a diff player Jun 24 10:14:29 ur face is a different player :< Jun 24 10:14:48 quite true Jun 24 10:17:02 whatevs, AAC isnt even bad Jun 24 10:18:23 how large is your library Jun 24 10:18:44 or is your library in opus... Jun 24 10:19:23 my library on my computer is in alac Jun 24 10:19:27 well, the relevant parts Jun 24 10:19:53 including, more specifically, the newly rereleased version of OK Computer Jun 24 10:19:56 that weighs literally 2gb Jun 24 10:21:40 * Wizzup raises eyebrow Jun 24 10:21:46 why apple crap? Jun 24 10:22:14 alac is literally the same as flac Jun 24 10:22:21 Apparently mpd supports Opus. Jun 24 10:22:24 the flac encoder on Let Down shaves off 34kbps Jun 24 10:22:26 * Maxdamantus has never used it. Jun 24 10:22:28 out of 3300 Jun 24 10:22:44 and yes i have songs at 3.3mbps Jun 24 10:22:50 no it doesn't make any sense at all Jun 24 10:22:52 literally the same as an a rebranded version of FLAC? Jun 24 10:23:00 nah it's a different algorithm Jun 24 10:23:03 * Maxdamantus would imagine ALAC would be a completely different codec. Jun 24 10:23:04 but the results are pretty much the same Jun 24 10:23:06 and it's open Jun 24 10:23:10 so eh Jun 24 10:23:32 ALAC is open? Jun 24 10:23:41 Well, I suspect there are open source implementations of it. Jun 24 10:24:09 Ah, Apple themselves released source code for it. Jun 24 10:24:15 patents? Jun 24 10:24:39 > After initially keeping it proprietary from its inception in 2004, in late 2011 Apple made the codec available open source and royalty-free. Jun 24 10:25:04 so after flac became the default, they conceded :P Jun 24 13:52:46 kerio: what? play FLAC? works, just needs installing the codecs Jun 24 13:52:55 DocScrutinizer05: not flac, opus Jun 24 13:53:01 nfc Jun 24 13:53:03 you don't need lossless audio on a phone Jun 24 13:54:01 I lost half of the convo, so nevermind Jun 24 13:56:12 http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6401634831 Jun 24 13:56:18 \o/ Jun 24 13:57:54 DocScrutinizer05: opus is basically aac but better Jun 24 13:57:57 and more open Jun 24 13:58:36 except that it's only really marginally better at low bitrates, both aac and opus are essentially indistinguishable at 128kbps and over Jun 24 13:59:46 http://wstaw.org/m/2017/06/24/plasma-desktopFv8317.png Jun 24 14:00:27 yeah, flac actually abuses the shit out of even my 128MB uSD Jun 24 14:01:31 128mb? :o Jun 24 14:07:30 yup Jun 24 14:07:48 err nope :-P Jun 24 14:07:55 * DocScrutinizer05 sips more coffee Jun 24 14:08:03 128GB Jun 24 14:08:34 256 are too expensive for the bang Jun 24 14:10:16 also I most like .iso with cue sheet, for true gapless playback, but alas there's basically not a single decent mediaplayer for that which could play songs according to the cuesheet Jun 24 14:11:34 for a true audiophile it's an abomination when albums of e.g. Zappa or Pink Floyd don't play 100% gapless Jun 24 14:13:09 there's an alternative format similar to .iso+cuesheet but using lossless compression. forgot the name, and problems with players are same Jun 24 14:16:53 ((coffee)) 30°C outside 27° inside, time for starting the A/C Jun 24 14:20:16 36/27 with A/C running... Jun 24 14:34:16 34 outside was yesterday Jun 24 14:34:24 24 inside Jun 24 14:36:31 monoblock with DocScrutinizer-patented booster: 2nd pipe to condenser cooling intake, to not only blow hot air out the window but also suck warm air directly from outside into the device instead of into the room via leaks in windows and whatnot and mixing with the cool air Jun 24 14:38:34 oooh and bubblefoil wrapped around the hot air pipe, so it doesn't work as heater for the room Jun 24 14:39:23 both together prolly increasing efficacy by 50% Jun 24 14:39:33 or more Jun 24 14:41:44 the operation manual suggests to hang the hot air pipe out the window and to **seal every leak in windows and doors so no warm air from outside comes in"[SIC!]. Do they hope to evacuate my room or what? ;-P Jun 24 14:42:40 when I blow out air from inside, there MUST come in air from outside to compensate Jun 24 14:43:47 the question is where you want that air to go to. I for one want it to go directly into the condenser cooling air intake of the device Jun 24 14:47:28 already cooled down my 100m^3 volume a 2°C Jun 24 14:47:40 in 30 min Jun 24 14:50:50 MPD1-12CRN1 12000BTU/h 1350W Jun 24 14:53:20 dman! somebody stole my patent! ;-P https://www.amazon.de/AirLock-Fensterabdichtung-Klimageräte-Klimaanlagen-Ablufttrockner/dp/B06XWF6Q68/ref=pd_sim_60_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JESBZSCTYQB31HVASNQ9 Jun 24 14:53:45 TWO pipes Jun 24 16:46:14 damn Jun 24 16:46:23 I've been carving those adapters out of cardboard Jun 24 16:49:27 Yeah fancier models have two pipes as standard Jun 24 17:30:08 has the supl server stopped working again Jun 24 17:30:50 DocScrutinizer05: it's only a matter of player really Jun 24 17:31:15 the n900 media player just likes to take a deep breath and drink a coffee between songs Jun 24 17:32:50 no mp3 files and no players I found so far allow really unnoticeable gapless playback across songs that fade one into the other Jun 24 17:33:17 itunes Jun 24 17:33:28 with something better than mp3 Jun 24 17:33:34 it's a shit codec in a shit container Jun 24 17:33:38 yes, I think I heard supl stopped working on both nokia and google Jun 24 17:34:05 :c Jun 24 17:34:21 in here Jun 24 17:34:26 a few weeks back Jun 24 17:37:22 DocScrutinizer05: could it be that your rips are bad Jun 24 17:37:34 with wrong gapless playback info Jun 24 17:37:50 as good as they are when you download them Jun 24 17:38:07 there's rip and rip Jun 24 17:38:37 and no way to tell them apart on aunt google etc Jun 24 17:39:16 ye thats why you use a private tracker Jun 24 17:39:22 actually administartion and QA are the most tedious duties with maintaining a medium size music library Jun 24 17:40:17 .iso and full-album .flac are usually just fine Jun 24 17:40:25 supl is working (nokia) Jun 24 17:40:38 oh? Jun 24 17:41:43 yes Jun 24 17:42:05 I still think there's more to the supl server issue, as it only seems to work for some. Jun 24 17:47:04 sure, it's most likely geoDNS Jun 24 17:47:18 or whatever the correct term Jun 24 17:49:29 doesn't make sense to provide an IP of a japanese server when you resolve the URL while you're located / connected-to-internet in england, and then the japanese server would need to have and provide the AGPS data of england Jun 24 17:51:14 https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/supl.nokia.com hmm, even worse, eh? Jun 24 17:52:02 though... which port is that using? 80? Jun 24 17:52:56 bullshit, sorry. The question is: which record type (A, AAAA, what) is a nokia GPS client asking for? Jun 24 17:55:36 SRV? Jun 24 17:56:39 https://www.whatsmydns.net/#CNAME/supl.nokia.com Jun 24 17:57:54 n900 clearly uses the 'A' Jun 24 17:59:01 ok, then see above, though I think CNAME should work for A too, right? Jun 24 17:59:32 I mean, no client asks for CNAME explicitly Jun 24 17:59:40 yes, of course you then need the 'A' of the cname Jun 24 17:59:48 is this a NS server property? Jun 24 17:59:48 yes, you're right Jun 24 18:04:00 try IP when the URL doesn't work for you Jun 24 18:04:24 odds are that japanese server maybe actually has data for your particular location too Jun 24 18:05:22 52.3.37.45 or 52.22.201.16 Jun 24 18:06:22 kerio: ^^^ Jun 24 18:06:30 url does not work since a while already .. resolves to 127.0.0.1 Jun 24 18:06:56 for you, so I gather you're not in the Americas Jun 24 18:07:23 (actually I'm pretty sure you're not) Jun 24 18:07:31 swaziland Jun 24 18:07:45 * DocScrutinizer05 knew that Jun 24 18:08:01 let me nslookup from a JP server Jun 24 18:09:02 Japan was an arbitrary example. Seems the URL only resolves for US and Vrazil Jun 24 18:09:07 Brazil even Jun 24 18:09:25 i have access to a jp server ;) Jun 24 18:10:12 root@UbiqPKD# host supl.nokia.com Jun 24 18:10:13 supl.nokia.com is an alias for nokia.supl.svc.ovi.com. Jun 24 18:10:15 nokia.supl.svc.ovi.com is an alias for nokia.supl.svc.ovi.com.glb.as1248.net. Jun 24 18:10:16 nokia.supl.svc.ovi.com.glb.as1248.net has address 127.0.0.1 Jun 24 18:10:18 (Germany) Jun 24 18:10:44 Received 132 bytes from 88.134.228.97#53 in 10 ms Jun 24 18:10:54 same for JP as well as CN Jun 24 18:11:11 see https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/supl.nokia.com Jun 24 18:11:15 that's why i'm surprised it resolves fine for some Jun 24 18:11:58 n900 seems to have issues opening that page Jun 24 18:12:01 there's a bazillion NS servers literally Jun 24 18:13:01 let me help you out :-) http://wstaw.org/m/2017/06/24/plasma-desktoppm8317.png Jun 24 18:15:16 thanks. i'm saving that Jun 24 18:15:26 apropos, what's state of things with election? Jun 24 18:15:47 no update Jun 24 18:16:02 not enough candidates Jun 24 18:16:26 * DocScrutinizer05 ducks and covers Jun 24 18:16:40 i nominate you :P Jun 24 18:16:55 GO F.... URSELF!!!! ;-P Jun 24 18:17:37 I think a 6 months (or more( ragequit disqualifies for council anyway Jun 24 18:18:43 and right now my workload/state_of_burnout is way worse than when I had to quit Jun 24 18:19:07 talking about that - how goes with Neo? Jun 24 18:19:18 back when I was grumpy and tended to shout at people, now I'd simply shoot them down ;-) Jun 24 18:19:46 [2017-06-24 Sat 17:12:13] waiting for layout contract Jun 24 18:23:03 any thoughts to cancel the project? Jun 24 18:23:16 every single day, yes Jun 24 18:24:03 but I'd feel bad for all the people who invested their money into support Jun 24 18:24:40 I also don't really like the idea to run a chapter11 aka bankruptcy Jun 24 18:25:06 nice trap I got caught in Jun 24 18:26:57 let's hope things work out Jun 24 18:27:32 for now the plan is still unchanged: get a working prototype to show off (even when that's a fair showcase hack, with "the hidden cables running to the 'fridge' it sits on"), then start a kickstarter Jun 24 18:27:58 then when that kickstarter fails, let's call it a zombie Jun 24 18:29:03 when it succeeds, I hope not only for more funds but also for more support so I won't be the only one driving all that stuff Jun 24 18:31:50 since you're in .DE, is/was HBCI really secure? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinTS Jun 24 18:33:16 HBCI is considered safe afaik, yes Jun 24 18:34:53 looks nice. wish our banks had something similar Jun 24 18:35:36 https://www.deutsche-bank.de/pfb/content/pk-digital-banking-hbci-fints.html https://www.chipkartenleser-shop.de/shop/deutsche-bank https://www.deutsche-bank.de/pfb/content/pk-digital-banking-banking-software.html Jun 24 18:37:29 seems they actually done that one right, for once Jun 24 18:39:20 basically an older more advanced though proprietary version of ubikey Jun 24 18:40:04 (and costs almost the same like a ubikey dongle) Jun 24 18:41:03 Secure Element is in creditcard (or now our new ID card) instead of inside ubikey dongle Jun 24 18:41:28 Security done right Jun 24 18:42:32 someone has to really take that all over the world Jun 24 18:42:51 I don't use it (yet), PIN/iTAN is good enough for me Jun 24 18:42:58 my bank has an android app, but of course, my 900 is my main device Jun 24 18:43:27 no app needed for PIN/iTAN Jun 24 18:44:06 but "no app needed" also means "no app available to do the tedious bookkeeping for you" Jun 24 18:44:33 instead of your iTAN, we have SMS :-( Jun 24 18:44:48 ooh we have that too, SMS-TAN Jun 24 18:45:31 considered highly insecure when you use tghe same smartphone for the web gateway AND receiving the SMS with TAN Jun 24 18:46:07 changes 2 factor to 0.5 factor Jun 24 18:48:10 yes, unfortunately Jun 24 18:50:11 http://wstaw.org/m/2017/06/24/plasma-desktopKj8317.png https://www.deutsche-bank.de/pfb/content/pk-digital-banking-faq.html?pfb_toggle=38474-38577,38474-38811 Jun 24 18:52:56 lulz, i can't read german. but that wikipedia link does mention mobile TAN Jun 24 18:53:39 incidentally, has a section about South Afica (mTAN), where i've seen those attacks myself Jun 24 19:13:49 yup Jun 24 19:13:56 exactly that Jun 24 19:14:27 mobile TAN must be the worst idea ever Jun 24 19:34:32 prolly was the most obvious and not much thought given to it initially Jun 24 19:39:27 LOL, funny stuff in my bash history. I already forgot Jun 24 19:39:29 wget http://wstaw.org/m/2017/02/13/Test.jpg -O -|grep -a -A99 begin |uudecode Jun 24 19:40:25 don't let tinfoil hatters see that ;-P Jun 24 19:40:53 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders if that works with e.g. imgur too Jun 24 19:45:40 haven't installed busybox-power yet, so no uudecode Jun 24 19:48:16 I'm not interested, if any of you are, drop me a note and I'll forward the email to you http://paste.ubuntu.com/24942885 Jun 24 19:48:40 or rather, your email addr to the sender of this offer Jun 24 19:51:12 yeah that's unfortunate Jun 24 19:53:28 https://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=uuencode&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 Jun 24 19:55:00 http://maemo.org/packages/view/sharutils/ Jun 24 19:55:47 sicelo: ^^^ Jun 24 19:56:41 i've just installed busybox-power after all :-) Jun 24 19:56:52 blargh! Jun 24 19:56:55 ;-P Jun 24 19:57:27 do you have a *faintly* useful ps now? Jun 24 19:58:04 now i don't know which 'ping' i really have .. original busybox's, busybox power's, or the ping i installed separately :D Jun 24 19:58:26 ping --help will tell Jun 24 19:59:10 IroN900:~# ping --help Jun 24 19:59:11 BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso31+0cssu0) multi-call binary Jun 24 20:01:03 mm, i don't get that output. maybe need to reboot Jun 24 20:02:13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24942954 Jun 24 20:03:06 IroN900:~# ls -l `which ping` Jun 24 20:03:08 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2014-12-06 12:39 /bin/ping -> busybox Jun 24 20:03:56 mine is /usr/bin/ping .. i'm ok with that Jun 24 20:04:05 IroN900:~# echo $PATH Jun 24 20:04:06 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin/gnu:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 Jun 24 20:05:37 i installed 'ping' from repos a while ago, that's where mine comes from. at least it's better than the stock busybox's ping Jun 24 20:05:44 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24942993 Jun 24 20:05:48 but let me reboot and see what happens Jun 24 20:30:22 did you do a "ssh sicelo shutdown -h" instead of a "ssh n900 shutdown -r"? Jun 24 20:53:15 i still don't have your version of ps Jun 24 20:53:26 maybe something to do with -thumb .. no idea Jun 24 20:56:36 or yours comes from somewhere else Jun 24 20:59:34 mine is plain procps Jun 24 20:59:52 no way you get that from messybox-whatever Jun 24 21:01:35 * DocScrutinizer05 yawns at http://paste.ubuntu.com/24943325 Jun 24 21:07:33 i don't know what up here then .. will look at it tomorrow. a bit tired and don't want to bork my N900 Jun 24 21:11:03 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24943369 Jun 24 21:12:49 ah yes .. that doesn't come with busybox power. that explains it Jun 24 21:18:07 \o Jun 24 22:24:40 So a quick line in /etc/hosts seems to have fixed AGPS for now, I had already done it once but commented it back out due to intermittent failure. Jun 24 22:47:36 Also found this from 4 years ago, seems like yesterday... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1370071&postcount=112 Jun 25 01:10:29 sixwheeledbeast^: nice find, I totally forgot that stuff **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 25 03:00:01 2017