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Aug 04 07:55:42 <Mr_Pingu> DocScrutinizer05: Do you still have those bupbats you used to have?
Aug 04 07:56:32 <Mr_Pingu> Never was confident enough to replace them but my solder skills have gone up :)
Aug 04 08:22:38 <Mr_Pingu> anyway when I just opened my second N900 and noticed green spots on the shields. Looked like fungus/corossion (green/aqua like you see on copper) can I just use 99% isopropyl-alcohol to clean it or should I leave it?
Aug 04 08:48:13 <Mr_Pingu> sixwheeledbeast^: you can also use fmtx_client -s <string> from commandline
Aug 04 09:02:06 <sixwheeledbeast^> I assumed the OP was aware of fmtx_client but I may have misunderstood the query
Aug 04 09:03:14 <sixwheeledbeast^> ~bupbat
Aug 04 09:03:14 <infobot> it has been said that bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864
Aug 04 09:23:18 <Mr_Pingu> I see. Well could be me aswell ;) 
Aug 04 09:39:04 <Mr_Pingu> sixwheeledbeast^: Thanks, but still can't find a right one :/ Not that PAS414 or that DSK414.
Aug 04 10:40:05 <ff__> sicelo: thy this: curl -u username:pass -G http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/nic/update -d myip=1.2.3.4 -d hostname=hostname
Aug 04 10:43:56 <ff__> or better with https
Aug 04 10:44:13 <ff__> probably ampersand was a problem
Aug 04 10:47:24 <sixwheeledbeast^> I have used no-ip but automatically at router 
Aug 04 10:52:00 <ff__> that's convenient solution
Aug 04 11:26:58 <sixwheeledbeast^> Makes sense to have it done at the router IMO. Most have a facility for this.
Aug 04 11:33:06 <ff__> I agree, that's convenient when something is done and it's working automatically :)
Aug 04 11:34:21 <ff__> unless our servers on N900 has public IP and hang on GSM
Aug 04 11:41:12 <sixwheeledbeast^> well if you use free version you still have to login monthly so not completely automatic.
Aug 04 11:43:08 <ff__> yes, that's disadvantage
Aug 04 13:46:42 <dineshdb> ping
Aug 04 14:48:09 <DocScrutinizer05> pong
Aug 04 15:32:13 <Vajb> i feel a bit cheated. I downloaded Devuan netinstal iso and burnt it to disk. When i check the readme file it is from Debian ;)
Aug 04 15:33:01 <Vajb> obviously "thou shalt not read instruction"
Aug 04 16:29:29 <DocScrutinizer05> it doesn't make sense to change all "debian" to "devuan" on 4.3 GB
Aug 04 16:29:50 <DocScrutinizer05> the readme issue is known though, and not a WONTFIX
Aug 04 16:30:29 <DocScrutinizer05> and you honestly should take tis to #devuan
Aug 04 16:33:57 <Vajb> jk hence ;)
Aug 04 16:50:22 <TheKit> Wizzup, how do you plan to workaround for 3D support on Droid 4 though?
Aug 04 17:53:34 <Vajb> is hildon working on devuan already? Or some other de? Or it is still just console as wiki suggests?
Aug 04 17:53:45 <Vajb> i mean devuan on n900
Aug 04 18:23:40 <DocScrutinizer05> there's a lot of 'hildon*"
Aug 04 18:24:43 <DocScrutinizer05> http://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bproperty%5D=name&org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bconstraint%5D=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search%5B1%5D%5Bvalue%5D=hildon&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bproperty%5D=title&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bconstraint%5D=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search%5B2%5D%5Bvalue%5D=same
Aug 04 18:27:01 <DocScrutinizer05> you can't say "hildon working on devuan" unless _all_ of that works as supposed
Aug 04 18:30:34 <DocScrutinizer05> and quite a few of those packages depend on other subsystems/services on the system. Like e.g. hildon-control-panel, hildon-input-method, hildon-status-bar*  etc
Aug 04 18:31:33 <Vajb> nice bunch
Aug 04 18:32:08 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly none of them will work on a plain debian/devuan even with complete hildon* implemented, unless you also implement the services they depend on
Aug 04 18:43:17 <Vajb> i'll see what happens when i have time to play with it
Aug 04 18:43:42 <Vajb> but devuan with mate de works nice on my puter at least
Aug 04 18:45:58 <KotCzarny> afair, mate is gnome2 
Aug 04 18:46:14 <KotCzarny> before they want too crazy
Aug 04 18:46:33 <KotCzarny> and yes, it's simple and functional
Aug 04 18:47:08 <KotCzarny> unlike their next abomination which looked nice, but was hardly usable
Aug 04 18:56:17 <TheKit> won't GNOME 3 UI be usable on mobile devices?
Aug 04 18:56:47 <KotCzarny> if you have enough horsepower and battery
Aug 04 18:57:26 <Vajb> KotCzarny: well i guess that explains why it reminded me of old ubuntu instantly
Aug 04 18:57:57 <Vajb> i kinda liked openbox too, but it wasn't on the list to choose at install time :p
Aug 04 18:58:00 <KotCzarny> i kind liked gnome2 for being flexible enough to be comfortable to use
Aug 04 18:58:39 <Vajb> and it feels quite responsive
Aug 04 18:59:14 <Vajb> had minor freezes when apt was working, but not after things settle
Aug 04 19:32:20 <Wizzup> TheKit: do you need 3d?
Aug 04 19:52:20 <TheKit> Wizzup, hildon-desktop is unusable withot OpenGL acceleration
Aug 04 20:07:05 <Mr_Pingu> Does hildon-desktop really need 3D?
Aug 04 20:07:23 <KotCzarny> not h-d itself, but toolkit it uses
Aug 04 20:08:09 <KotCzarny> 'clutter'
Aug 04 20:12:38 <Mr_Pingu> ah I see
Aug 04 20:17:34 <sixwheeledbeast^> I really like the MATE DE it came along just at the right time for me on Ubuntu as they dropped support of Gnome2 in favor of Unity. That didn't work out did it...
Aug 04 20:20:42 <sixwheeledbeast^> I certainly think its great that Devuan has MATE as a DE option in the installer for those switching from older Debian systems. 
Aug 04 21:50:22 <Wizzup> TheKit: right, but n900 on mainline has similar issues
Aug 04 21:50:25 <Wizzup> we can probably make it work
Aug 04 21:50:31 <Wizzup> maybe evne libhybris is necessary
Aug 04 21:50:37 <Wizzup> at SHA2017 atm, back later
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